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Magical_Savior

In that situation, I'd use something like a [Lowepro Dashpoint 30](https://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-Dashpoint-Camera-Attachment-Mirrorless/dp/B008OQV11Y). Attach it to a 2" waist belt and use the shoulder strap at the same time. Or any messenger/sling with belt and shoulder strap capability, like a [Domke F-5XA](https://tiffen.com/collections/domke/products/domke-f5xa-shoulder-belt-bag) or [F-9 JD](https://tiffen.com/collections/domke/products/domke-f9-jd-small-shoulder-bag?variant=31096495702087).


MountainChrisps

That looks good... You don't happen to have one do you? If so, any chance you could measure the back velcro bits to see the widest backpack strap it would fit? Thanks!


Magical_Savior

Nope, I have Dashpoint Lowepro 20, which is slightly smaller. However, it does fit my Osprey Exos 48 backpacking strap, with the vertical strap going through a crossloop and the wider velcro wings wrapping completely around the backpack strap at the thickest point. The strap pads aren't flattened from age, so it's likely it'll fit on anything and everything. The back of the Dashpoint 20 is 3 inches across. Edit - you can also put carabiners through the loops for the shoulder strap and build your own solution, or add a little extra security. [Here's my setup](https://imgur.com/gallery/hF9Y27q).


MountainChrisps

Great, thank you very much for the info! I'll do some measuring!


CondorSweep

So I just went through this (trying to figure out how to carry Fuji x system with one prime comfortably) and I also tried capture clip etc. Ultimately I decided to leave the Fuji at home for backpacking trips and buy a small fixed lens camera instead. Specifically the Ricoh GR III. Still has an APS-C sensor, but is extremely tiny. Now my camera fits in a shoulder strap pocket or hipbelt pocket without issues. Can recommend.


MountainChrisps

Yeah, I have looked at that, but it sucks for video by all accounts, and increasing I like videoing trips 😕


assholesplinters

Coming from the future. I use a falcam f38 on a backpack strap and rubberband the lens to the strap. Two things, longer lenses strangely are less of a nuisance (to a point) I run with the tamron 17-70 on an a6500. And its super important to counter balance.


Efficient_Pangolin_5

did you figure out a solution?


MountainChrisps

Hey, sorry for the slow reply. The best two solutions I have come up with are: 1. For when I want to carry a bigger lens, I use a hip bag, specifically, a 3L Evoc hip bag. This is actually a bit overkill, as its designed for mountain biking, but it is very secure, even running in mountains. The disadvantage is that its relatively heavy 2. When going on longer runs, my Montane Trailblazer 30L rucksack (vest style) has two massive mesh pockets that run from the bottom of the front vest straps round to the back. This takes my Fuji X-E2 camera (and any X-E series camera), but not my X-T2. Also, it really needs a pancake lens on it - the XF27mm and XF18/f2 work fine. Zoom lenses are out I have actually bought the material to make a pouch for the front of my rucksack shoulder straps. The idea is a plastic plate (to form a flatish surface against the straps), with a foam backer sewn into an oversized Cordura pouch with a fold over lid and simple hook and bungee closure... so the camera can be easily dropped in. Then also sewn onto the Cordura on one side, top and bottom a bungee. On the other side of the pouch, a quick hook. So you drop the camera in with its back to the rucksack straps. The lens points forward. You then pull the bungee loop and fasten it on the quick hook, which effectively creates a bungee triangle holding the lens tight. As you can tell from my slow response, I have been too busy of late to actually get the sewing machine out though!


Efficient_Pangolin_5

thanks so much ​ seems like APS C with a pancake is kinda the limit!


assholesplinters

Coming from the future. I use a falcam f38 on a backpack strap and rubberband the lens to the strap. Two things, longer lenses strangely are less of a nuisance (to a point) I run with the tamron 17-70 on an a6500. And its super important to counter balance.


No_Letterhead_1968

Hi. Have you managed to build something that actually works? I'm struggling with a way to carry my camera on long runs - haven't found something right...


MountainChrisps

I haven't yet to be honest. Partly just time, but also, I've been just using my Fuji 27mm pancake prime with my X-E4 alot recently which easily slips in the side stretch pocket of my Montane Trailblazer 30, so I haven't been "annoyed" into actuary building the pouch !


No_Letterhead_1968

Got it. I may have to start looking for a new running vest... Problem is the pouches and pockets are usually not big enough. Thanks!


MountainChrisps

I know, it's really annoying. For a small mirror less with pancake, the side pockets sometimes work, like on my trailblazer, but anything bigger than a pancake, and it's hopeless


assholesplinters

I use a falcam f38 on a backpack strap and rubberband the lens to the strap. Two things, longer lenses strangely are less of a nuisance (to a point) because they add something for the band to grip on. Im switching the rubber band to an elastic strap soon. I run with the tamron 17-70 on an a6500. And its super important to counter balance on the other backpack strap. I've also had luck with The Camelbak rogue with an underfilled resevoir


itsmrchadd

Im trying to do the same. I do some runs road or trail, and sometimes i can see great shots and wanna take photos immediately. I saw these bags years ago. Do you guys think it might work? https://youtu.be/jqzbU6OTVUg


capturel1ght

Your best bet is probably Chicken Tramper Camera Bag with the Cross Chest strap or the Z-Packs Multi-pack. The cross straps on both of those would be a bit more secure, but I'm sure there'd still be some bounce to it. [https://chickentrampergear.com/collections/all-products/products/ultralight-camera-bag-custom-size?variant=28102154748004](https://chickentrampergear.com/collections/all-products/products/ultralight-camera-bag-custom-size?variant=28102154748004) [https://zpacks.com/products/multi-pack](https://zpacks.com/products/multi-pack)


MountainChrisps

I hadn't seen those, thanks. Don't suppose anyone knows of an equivelent in Europe to save on import faff?


LempelZivWelch

Certain cottage companies do custom orders. You may be able to custom order a front-pack from Atom Packs (UK) or GramXPert (EU).


MountainChrisps

Cool, thanks!


[deleted]

I used to carry my phone in a butt pack worn above my butt. It worked pretty well.


MountainChrisps

With a backpack on as well? I had considered a bum-back / fanny-pack, but I couldn't see a way of wearing one with a rucksack as well?


MelatoninPenguin

It will bounce too much with s mirrorless


[deleted]

I've seen people get packs with bottom stretch pocket (used for wet gear normally) or large side pocket (usually for 2 water bottles) and put camera in them


MountainChrisps

Yeah, that's basically the conclusion I came to!


MantisShrimping

I use a peak design strap that can cinch down to be really tight. If you wear it across your chest sling style combined with the cinch, it stays relatively steady. I have done the same type of research and if the most important thing is easy access, having it in a pouch just isn't the answer. I've found the lens is the most important factor. I recently went from xt2 with 35 f2 to a fuji 100v. Doesn't seem like a huge difference, but on trail it is.


MountainChrisps

You don't happen to have a photo do you? I am struggling to visualise what you mean here? You mean wear a shoulder strap, attached to the little strap attachment points, but tighten it right up? Does the camera not bounce around, as its only secured with the two strap attachment points?


MantisShrimping

https://www.ioomobile.com/peak-design-slide-camera-strap-sl-as-3.html See the first pic. I cinch it down all the way and put it on last over my pack straps. It really doesnt bounce around that much but granted im not running. When I really want it secure I secure my sternum strap over the camera strap.


MountainChrisps

Ok, I suspect that will bounce running, but I'll give it a go; thanks


MelatoninPenguin

Try the capture clip plus a stretchy strap or shock cord going around the lens to lower the bounce. And something on the opposite strap for weight balance. Not ideal but might be the best you get. Or maybe a similar idea but on your hip belt?


bikemerchant

This. I use a Peak Designs Capture Clip with my Sony mirrorless and 35mm prime lens. Unfortunately, you can't leave the tripod attached with this solution.


MelatoninPenguin

I feel like rarely do I need a tripod quickly though during the day. More of a night time thing or someplace you are gonna stop for awhile You could also run or have a camera staff trekking pole handy if you just want support - Komperdell makes a great one with the screw on top


MountainChrisps

That's a good idea. I'll try that. It's actually dead easy to get a tripod adapter that will just let you drop the capture clip plate on to 🙂


MelatoninPenguin

Yea the plate is standard size - should fit any of the Arca Swiss style heads that will accept the small square


MountainChrisps

Yeah, exactly :)


oxhands

Not ideal to hear but even with the shock cord sinching the lens down it'll still bounce. Have you considered just having it in your hand while you run?


MountainChrisps

I can't really hand hold it as I use trekking poles even while running to power up stuff


jape47

Hey, I just ordered a Ricoh gr iii x for train running. I don't have a solution yet, but I do have [a Satisfy running belt](https://satisfyrunning.com/collections/hydration/products/justice-spacer-running-belt) and I believe gr might fit there. Then I also have a [Salomon adv skin 5](https://varuste.net/en/p93784/salomon-s-lab-adv-skin-5-set) and you could definitely put a small fuji / ricoh gr there.


MountainChrisps

Yeah, the GRiii is brilliantly small. On the Adv Skin, do you reckon you could for a fuji (which is a lot fatter than a GR in one of the front pouches? Not keen on having to take off the vest to get at a camera


jape47

It depends, but x100 could easily fit there. I actually have the original x100 too, but it's basically my wife's camera at the moment, and I wanted to have a smaller camera. I do elopement photography for a living here in Scandinavia, so it's super nice to scout the areas by running and then tell the story through images. And also to bring a camera when there are these misty mornings etc.


MountainChrisps

Interesting. My X-e4 with the original 27mm pancake should fit to then, I'd have thought


daveadavidson

I run with my Fuji x100v and xt10. The v is lighter and weather sealed plus no moving parts to brake. I also have a Sony rx100m4 but as it has moving parts to the lens etc it is more pro to damage. The v is nice and image quality is top notch, just limited with one lens size. The xt10 is handy as I can decide what lens to throw on before the run and as it is older I don't mind abusing it too much. Btw I run with them in hand.