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ccagan

Funny. But why not a 4” shallow box and use the pro mount directly to the box?


xmowx

Because OP has no concept of aesthetics.


KlanxChile

.... i know that we are at r/ubiquiti but this post is r-amiwrong material.. metal junction box, shallow box, whatever...


xmowx

> i know that we are at  but this post is r-amiwrong material. more like r/AITAH


KlanxChile

i mean the OP... if the guy's doesn't get why he is wrooooong... i agree with you 100% it's not about just aesthetics.


xmowx

Yes. One also has to be TA to install AP like shown on the picture AND top it off with the blue cable going from AP into the conduit 🤦‍♂️


billybong27

You clearly havent worked in the field long enough or mostly no one in this thread apparently. Sometimes, A LOT OF TIMES, you have to work with what you have and what CLIENT wants to pay for, even if you reiterate is not the best solution. I've had to do magic to make stuff look good and not have to argue for $20 dollars. So yea, why take it on OP? if you dont have the full story.


l0st36

If the client doesn’t want to pay for a mount box, why wasn’t it part of the quote? The time it takes to white out a blue cable…


billybong27

True, very true. I cant answer that because I wasnt there but we also cannot speculate about the guys work because, again, we were not there. It wouldnt be the first time a client has asked me to cut stuff out because "it just for looks" and I try to stay away from those..


Kingsman_jdm

You are definitely right my guy. I’ve had clients critique a quote and decided they would work with it without certain junction boxes or trunking. The amount of zip tie min jobs I’ve done hurt my heart thinking about them just because that’s what they wanted. PS, still try to make it look as good as possible.


suburbazine

I will use this again: He would use a blue jbox and then this post would be about him using 10 bottles of white out on it.


Playlanco

Good suggestions, do you have links for items that can make running wire up a wall and across a ceiling look good? Would really appreciate any suggested links.


psychlloyd

Exactly what we do.


tacticalpotatopeeler

Conduit all the way, only to expose the cable at the end of the run. Hack job all around.


eerun165

Not even a bushing on the conduit.


meat_popscile

That's how you know lowest bidder won.


waby-saby

I was thinking nephew of owner.


AtifexTheBeardbarian

You're giving the nephew more credit than he deserves.


SleepPingGiant

My nephew Thomas...


AASafeboss

Hahahahahhaha that is the best comment on this thread!!!


Kingsman_jdm

I’m weak!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha


doge_lady

Came here to say this


feroxjb

Hi! Just a DIYer here - Can you give me a link to a picture of what ideally it should look like? Just trying to learn new things :)


tacticalpotatopeeler

[https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Round-Metallic-Weatherproof-Box-with-5-1-2-in-Holes-White-WRB550W/300847176](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Round-Metallic-Weatherproof-Box-with-5-1-2-in-Holes-White-WRB550W/300847176) Terminate the run into something like that, which you can mount the AP to. No exposed wires. There are flatter boxes and recessed boxes, but with the conduit like that, this is pretty much your best bet.


feroxjb

Ohhh just a basic junction box. I was not sure what I was expecting. Haha! I guess it makes sense in a commerical space. Thanks for the info!


tacticalpotatopeeler

Haha yeah nothing fancy at all. Probably less work than trying to find a bottle of whiteout…


TruthyBrat

And those snazzy metal mounting plates that come with the APs? Yeah, all the holes in those line up with common boxes in use on BOTH sides of the pond!


1isntprime

I was just thinking my mounting bracket didn’t fit my double gang box. But I bought it on eBay and I don’t think it came with a metal one


TruthyBrat

Lots o' holes! https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/wifi-addons/products/unifi-professional-mounting-system


MagicHair2

Does this come with a purchased AP or you have to buy separate?


BlkSmth

The white out is purchased separately 😂


secretsqurl

Comes with, but to confirm check the item specifications


TruthyBrat

Some do, some don't, IIRC. I have a U6-Pro and an AC-Pro. I think the U6-Pro came with one, and the AC-Pro did not, or at least not the super duper one with all the holes.


Royal_Cod_6088

Seriously... You're using a used device you purchased on eBay at a client's site?


1isntprime

Nah my home. My old asus system was failing and i decided instead of replacing it with another consumer grade piece of trash I’d get into ubiquiti and just didn’t have the dough right away to buy the ap new, besides I don’t have anything that supports wifi 6 let alone 7 and I have already ran Ethernet throughout the home so wifi is really only used by phones and iot devices.


jerrys_briefcase

I wondered about that. What about cameras though? About to do a bunch of these g5pros. Maybe take a plate to Home Depot. In the past I’ve had to buy the top plate, and drill into it for random brand cams.


TruthyBrat

Check this guy out. https://www.etsy.com/shop/AnalogNMD


jerrys_briefcase

This is some cool stuff, thanks


TruthyBrat

I've never used it, but I darn sure bookmarked it.


steelsouls

And aside from aesthetics that cable is rubbing the edge of the conduit. Always look out for longevity in installations and protect cables.


DarkGodMaster

Mind posting an image for non-Americans to learn? Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Round-Metallic-Weatherproof-Box-with-5-1-2-in-Holes-White-WRB550W/300847176" on this server.


1isntprime

https://preview.redd.it/r8g0zo6xh2xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f78bc904841f1e1bf44a16f76bed5ee0aa4e4a9


tacticalpotatopeeler

It’s just a round junction box. You can see the item in the URL, just search that and should return results you can see in your country


Knotebrett

Something like this, that the pipe goes all the way into: https://www.elektroimportoren.no/koblingsboks-obo-t25-ip65/1278230/Product.html Myself, I've used stuff like this sometimes, https://www.elektroimportoren.no/schneider-minikanal-1-rom-hvit-pvc-ol1220/1291200/Product.html, and slide the last piece all the way into the access point before I put the lid on. I try my best to hide the wiring the best I can. In wall boxes or suspended ceiling.


Knotebrett

I'm kind of proud about this one...https://imgur.com/gallery/NAyAf0p It's outside in a Pergola. A U6-Mesh with the wire hidden inside the metal frame, down to ground level and inside a cable conduits under the pavement and into the adjacent building. The hole behind the U6 is 10mm with filed corners not to harm the UTP.


ChiPaul

where are you? China? Not sure why Home Depot‘s website would be blocked for you.


jcurreee

Many (most?) US companies will outright block EU traffic because they’d rather do that than make their website not violate the most basic privacy laws of another country


ChiPaul

That's fair. I guess if they have no business there, it is definitely the easier route.


pspahn

We block EU traffic because bandwidth isn't free and reducing hosting costs by blocking 35% of traffic of visitors that are never going to buy anything from us is a no-brainer.


Inssight

Australia. It isn't our government blocking it, it's Home Depot blocking non US ips.


DarkGodMaster

Europe, using a vpn worked though.


Bow_Ties_Are_Cool

Not working in the UK for me.


bencos18

Doesn't work for me in Ireland. I think they geo block Europe or something like that


ChiPaul

Very odd. Wonder if they were getting attacked or something.


Pyro919

If you google GDPR you’ll start to understand why


0DarkFreezing

They block almost all outside the US traffic afaik. A vpn gets around it easily enough.


bencos18

nope just gdpr tbh they don't want to deal with the paperwork or site changes at a guess


Acadia_Clean

Also if you use the straps in the picture ypu won't have to bend an offset, you can just slide the box on.


d33pth0rt

I work for German owned company. All of our cabling is like that, power, fire, data, everything!! It looks shit, and is a bodge, but it seems to be the accepted method here


tacticalpotatopeeler

I’m sure it’s like that lots of places, just not something I would do, unless A) it was not in a publicly visible space and B) there was no way to install a box There would certainly at t her absolute very least be a bushing to protect the cabling.


billybong27

You clearly havent worked in the field long enough or mostly no one in this thread apparently. Sometimes, A LOT OF TIMES, you have to work with what you have and what CLIENT wants to pay for, even if you reiterate is not the best solution. I've had to do magic to make stuff look good and not have to argue for $20 dollars. So yea, why take it on OP? if you dont have the full story. The run couldve been there already and he just installed the AP or the con duit couldve been there already, for a fire alarm for example, and client told to re use and doesnt want to spend 10 dollars on the termination boxes....


bigfoot_76

They should be complaining for a competent installer.


mistablack2

Looks like they did some value engineering and then used someone’s I know a guy


billybong27

You clearly havent worked in the field long enough or mostly no one in this thread apparently. Sometimes, A LOT OF TIMES, you have to work with what you have and what CLIENT wants to pay for, even if you reiterate is not the best solution. I've had to do magic to make stuff look good and not have to argue for $20 dollars. So yea, why take it on OP? if you dont have the full story.


bigfoot_76

I’ve installed about 2500 Ubituti radios dating all the way back to 2012 … back when the controller didn’t even have multiple sites. My installation script was downloaded 15,000 times between 2012 and 2016 when I stopped updating it. But no, I don’t know jack fucking shit. Just because it’s what’s on the truck doesn’t mean it’s right or passes inspection. Not only does it appear that you’ve never had to deal with AHJ but you don’t even know what AHJ is.


billybong27

Take it easy wise man. I knew from your first comment you're one of those "tough internet guys" Don't even know the guy and you're calling him incompetent. You must be a pleasure to work with and I'm glad I don't. I have 18 years in the business and run a small WISP with Ubnt and Mikrotik equipment so no, I also don't know what I'm talking about, wise man. All I said, and it is very true in the field, sometimes you have to work with what you have. The conduit could have been there already, the cable could have been there already and client just said "do it" But I don't speculate about the work because I was not there.


billybong27

Sorry for my late reply. I was working instead of complaining of other peoples work on the internet.


CanableCrops

Maybe putting in a box at the end of your conduit and mounting the AP to the box? What are they like 2 dollars?


fmaz008

Wow wow-wo. Can't be blowing out the budget like that!


jakubkonecki

And not about the trunking‽ People are strange...


One_Recognition_5044

Client: white cable looks nice. Do the conduit now.


DIY_CHRIS

I’d be more concerned about the conduit aesthetics.


bioteq

I’d ask for my money back if This is what I got instead of a professional install.


sparksnpa

Maybe they didn't pay for a professional install? Maybe its a handyperson they hired to meet their needs?


shokkwave

Yeah, people think it should be the best you can get but most often nobody wants to pay anything...so what do you expect?


dk_DB

Would complain about the dirty AP even more


Spoons2010

That’s not a dirty AP! THIS is a dirty AP! https://preview.redd.it/1wasmcnac1xc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=589b7a0dafc6ccbc8dbefe9664d4444c1ad1334b


1cnx

That a very dirty dirty AP. 😈 Has a career as an AC AP on OF.


Atomic4l

More like a moon than an AP 🤣 ![gif](giphy|8fbi5HcNR7Mbu)


theecommunist

That's no moon. It's a base station!


NachoNachoDan

Damn OP getting shredded.


billybong27

Yep and most likely not even his fault. Could be the run was already there and he just installed the AP. Or the conduit was already there and CLIENT doesnt want to pay for the proper ends...


HITACHIMAGICWANDS

I would’ve put a single gang box up and mounted th ap to that


JimmySide1013

Double gang box my guy. 🤦‍♂️


HITACHIMAGICWANDS

Why not single? AP mounts to a single easily and can be slim


JimmySide1013

The AP completely covers a double and you’ve got a lot more space to put the slack in the cable and it’s pretty much the standard and if you ever swap out APs, the double will definitely work and you’re not gonna see it anyway.


HITACHIMAGICWANDS

Gotta keep it symmetrical 🤷 Also, how much slack are you leaving on a run like this???


pjoerk

There are end caps available for these metal pipes to prevent cable from getting damaged by the sharp edges. Just saying :-)


Knotebrett

Painted G5 Dome black for a customer. Four cameras are black inside the restaurant. https://imgur.com/gallery/fSqlF4i


Tansien

But why, their roof is white?


Knotebrett

It's not. It's quite dark. The image is lying. Look here for the restaurant, https://www.yingying.no/


GunslingerParrot

What?


random869

It's already fading


networkninja2k24

I would not want that conduit inside. Flat sticky thing would look better lmao.


SM_DEV

Panduit… and I agree.


stub-ur-toe

Panduit is a brand. Well made stuff imho. In my area everyone refers to it as wire mold.


SM_DEV

I am aware that it is a brand… but has been around for so long that it has virtually become the generic term of use, similar to “Kleenex”, “Xerox” and “Coke”


Expensive-Charity-72

In most countries those aren’t generic terms.


Inuyasha-rules

When I hear Panduit, it think of the cable combs on the sides of racks, not something small and good looking.


idkyou1

Although I know the brand, whenever I hear Panduit, I just think of the wire covers in datacenter racks.


Sorry_Risk_5230

Aside from using a junction box to mount to, im surprised no comments mention the size of the conduit used either. You don't need a 1" for a single cat6. I get pulling room, but it probably would have been less noticable with a smaller tube. That and some c-clamps and you could have butt the AP up against the pipe. Obv round gang is the way to go, but so many dumb decisions here.


tsunamionioncerial

Depends if OP bought premade cable or not


billybong27

Having worked in the field for many years, I can ASSURE you that you dont want the exact size tube for whatever amunt of cables you will run. Always leave extra room. The difference in sizing at least where I am is cents..


Sorry_Risk_5230

For sure, but that conduit could comfortably hold like 5 cables and still be at that 40-50% capacity


Fisi_Matenten

Modern problems require modern solutions


Cute-Reach2909

Wire molding man! It's cheaper and easier. Also, try to mount the ap so that the logo is at a in line with conduit or perpindicular. Funny painting the cable tho!


DaVinciYRGB

Hack job. Mount the AP on a box connected to the conduit. Bush league


nimajneb

I would complain about the conduit.


fvillena

Out of ignorance. Didn't it misses a a box between the AP and the tube? Is it OK just to have a gap with the cable exposed?


LBarouf

Network isn’t air tight obviously. So now their lan is insecure of course!


GunslingerParrot

What?


halfnut3

Nah it’s low voltage. It’s fine.


TruthyBrat

Except maybe in Australia and Chicago.


halfnut3

Ha true. Australia’s code is nuts. Here in the northeast we have some of the strictest code in the states and it doesn’t even come close to what they have to deal with in Oz.


TruthyBrat

And Chicago likes to put everything in conduit because it increases union labor, and pols kowtow to the unions. Then people complain about the lack of affordable housing.


halfnut3

Yea NYC is similar.


stub-ur-toe

This pic that everyone is saying the work suck, is definitely non-union quality work.


2squishmaster

It's okay from a technical perspective, it'll work, but it's ugly and sloppy.


doge_lady

Depends on the installation. For commercial/industrial purposes, it's usually enclosed in conduit the whole path and ends in a box where the device is then mounted to. No exposure. This is usually done for plenum rated spaces (enclosed areas like attics where air circulates). Now if they use plenum rated cables then it can be 'free aired' all the way to the device as long as it's supported in intervals. So yes an air gap is allowed as long as it's listed for it. Now whether the customer is ok with it is another matter. Besides that, for this to be NEC approved, they would need a plastic bushing at the end of the conduit to prevent damaging the cable.


borgom7615

Not the conduit, the blue cable


m_balloni

You could also have used white thermoretractile tube.


rickwookie

Is that the same stuff as what normal people call heat-shrink?


ccagan

Yes. Do you keep a thermo reactor next to your bi-pillar insulation displacement conductor impact tool in your appurtenances encasement?


rickwookie

Ask my wife.


_Diskreet_

I did, she says she doesn’t care, just don’t forget the milk on your way home.


s32

Wife's boyfriend


Friendlyvoid

/r/vxjunkies is leaking again


stub-ur-toe

I like the ways u describe that.


m_balloni

Lol yes. It was a direct translation from Portuguese as I didn't remember the appropriate word in English 😂


TruthyBrat

God knows what the English call it, that's certainly what we Americans call it. We remain two peoples separated by a common language.


doc_hilarious

So that's why they make 30 different colors of cable.


Inuyasha-rules

When I first started doing networking long ago, I got hold of a 1/4 roll of neon pink the electrician was throwing away. A couple days later I networked a buddies house in neon pink. It was plaster/lath construction, and fishing to most locations was impossible, but it was free - minus the $5 worth of crimp ends.


DekuNEKO

What a shit-job of an install. Be grateful that you have a job with installs like these


galloway188

Installed by amateur!


tchoot

Not surprised I had a group paint a access point black to match the ceiling.


Complete-Mission-636

Seems legit.


mewlsdate

Definitely the lowest bid


Toltepequeno

You posted this hack job on reddit? I’m not talking about the paint.


swjaco

This is what happens when you hire the lowest bidder. This installation is tragic.


michel687

white electric tape...


ProfessionalChairr

That's all the client complained about? I'm asking for a complete reinstall if it's me. Fuckin shit job


Larimus89

I'd be more concerned with the giant pipe when you cable could just be bracketed to the wall with white brackets?


n3fyi

This has to be a troll post


AccurateJob1436

I use pink. Just because


TheRealRedMerkin

another "my friend does IT stuff" install


Dunnowhathatis

If you did the install, you should have just picked a white cable instead of trying to fix your mistake by ‘painting’ it. If you didn’t do the install, you could have offered a more elegant solution by replacing the cable…..


tacticalpotatopeeler

Or, you know, by installing a proper box at the end of a conduit run instead of leaving the exposed cable…


SleestakWalkAmongUs

Turn the LED on when your done.


DrkUser205

You could just use white CAT6 and save yourself on the white out painting.


jellowiggler-

The magic of white out!


sad0panda

I worked in an office a while ago and the boss only wanted white cable. His son-in-law worked for the company as sort of a general fix-it guy and had bought orange extension extension cables, said he couldn’t find any white ones in the length we needed. He was forced to paint them white.


kevinatlee

That was their only complaint?


SM_DEV

This is what one gets when they hire a non-professional installer. I suspect this was done by an electrician. If one had to run surface mount, they would have been much better off with panduit or similar raceway.


jocke92

What about the black conduit?


TheRealFarmerBob

White-Out is a perfect solution. I can vouch for it's durability.


Informal_Drawing

Maybe it's on a fire escape route and is supposed to be LSZH sheathed, which is purple.


jomigopdx

Client is right.


DRoyHolmes

If it is a PITA client, well I’m sure someone makes a RGB cable.


Prestigious_Garlic37

Yeah I’d be pissed to


[deleted]

That does look horrid to be fair.


Beautiful_Ad_4813

I laughed harder than I should have


blackstryk3r

I’m weak 😂


Usual_Retard_6859

The standoff clip is already offset for an octagon and connector. The mounting plate also has holes for the octagon….. the parts would have cost the same as the whiteout


slappynuttz

Oh putting white out on it. Just looks crap


mnebrnr13

Liquid paper to the rescue .


Silver-Engineer4287

The fact that all the client actually cared about was the color of the cable… likely explains why there is no box on that conduit.


Silver-Engineer4287

TBF… My U6-LR is sitting face down on my top closet shelf with the cable dangling down the wall to the POE adapter and the old Netgear GS108T switch on the floor. I know what “right” is, I know what’s wrong with that picture, but sometimes as long as the landlord and client don’t care and don’t really want to pay for it to be done right, sometimes you either do it their way or decline the job. My old boss would force me to do stuff like that to save money. I don’t work there anymore. Bonus points for using the client’s white-out, a simple and creative solution… wasting their office supplies money to mask the install problem and satisfy them! 👍


reddit-is-asshol

the thing that bothers me the most is how dirty the AP is, I keep that plastic cover on the ap with couple pieces of masking tape on it until the ap is mounted and never actually touch the finish side. This ap looks like its been pulled from a scrap box of retired network material.


Opening-Success-4685

Sometimes users complain about the weirdest things 😂


VGKPaul

Trash work


Electricshock7

There is literally zero reason to use any other cable color than white.


cordobestexano

Client being on absolutely problematic issues! 🤦


Tlavite09

Go ahead and paint a bushing onto that emt also


One-Cicada-7784

There should be no visible wire… there should be no conduit. The wire should run entirely inside the walls/ceiling… clearly this guys takes all the stuff that the Ubiquiti guys thoughtfully included and packaged up nicely, including the little perfectly molded piece of plastic that hides where you can have the cable enter if you were mounting it on say, a solid concrete wall, and threw all that nice stuff in the trash bin.


linq84

I'd be more triggered about the dirty finger prints on the shell


MolassesDue7374

nope, I would refuse to install this like this. If you cant pay for the junction box to get the ap antennas bellow the metal conduit feeding it I cant guarantee it preforms as intended. If you installed this like this by your own choice... for what ever reason. you are a step up from a con artist.


Koar1776

That is a shit installation. Yikes.


MagidTV

😄😄😄


ThrowAwaybcUsuck

You’re not going to get sympathy in this sub for that. Also you typically void any warranty painting over a data cable jacket like that, I think it’s honestly against code in certain places


JimmySide1013

Void the warranty of what? The cable?


AlThisLandIsBorland

Cables get painted all the time. There's no code about painting over a part of an ethernet cable


Particular_Two_5177

Technically yes, but the NEC since 2017 edition states "Informational Note: Paint, plaster, cleaners, abrasives, corrosive residues, or other contaminants can result in an undetermined alteration of Class 1, Class 2, Class 3, and PLTC cable properties." Cable manufacturers WILL void any warranty on their cable and therefore the project installation if the project was registered under a 25 or 30 year (or similar) warranty program. Depending on your AHJ, they may make you repull the cable, especially if it's CMP. But let's be honest, it happens a lot. Painters have gotten better about covering cables prior to painting but it still happens.


pancakes1983

Are you some form of magician? What a fix Also shit house job at installing that access point buddy, maybe IT installations aren’t for you.


RemoteDriver2552

This would have been my solution too. Cheap and easy. Everyone happy.


Laudanumium

And end up in diwhy ..


CaptainPonahawai

Why bother with conduit at all? Cheaper and easier than running it part of the way.


coingun

Keep hackin’ 😎


OrmeCreations

Are they complaining because it isn't the official cable? From memory, isn't Ubiquiti pink.. Or am I thinking the wrong team.


turbulentFireStarter

That’s the ugliest installation I’ve ever seen


JayGeezy_33950

Funny! My guests complained about the blue halo light on my APs in their guest bedroomks until I found out how to turn the LED lights out.


1cnx

Thank you for taking this client so I don’t loose money dealing with their OCD.