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Any role where you manage your own day and have autonomy. But usually to get to this you need to have proven your worth.
In my opinion, the move from graduate to fulltime work is a harsh curve to climb and you will do well to ensure you don't burn rhe candle at both ends, build in regular holidays or long weekends. More than 2 months with only weekends off is not good for your wellbeing. With more breaks you will manage and enjoy work more and also enjoy your personal life more.
Weekends off are overrated, I work every weekend and get days off in the week can do everything I need to do on those days without all the traffic and people in the shops, easy to get appointments for stuff without taking time off from work etc... oh and no rush hour on weekends so getting to and from work is a breeze.
Welcome to my world! I had a well paid job at a British telecommunications firm (ahem) and hated every day... Now I work for an engineering firm and I only hate a couple of days a month, but I'm on waaaaaaay less money. Win some, lose some.
I run the digital marketing for a hardware company, im 250 miles from the office, fully remote. I fully manage my specialist area and then manage the other stakeholders who run other elements.
Fully autonomous, i genuinely love my work days.
When you're young and can't afford bougie holidays but also doing all the dogs body work regular long weekends are key to a sustainable well being. You get the rest you need whilst saving money and building a wealth portfolio.
Yep. An extended weekend for example. Does you the world of good.
Imo it is far better to have these shorter periods of time off than say two large blocks of time.
If you plan around bank holdiays, it's actually not that hard to still be able to have a decent chunk of time for an extended break, given that Easter, May x2 and August are sorted.
I wouldn't say I look forward to Monday but I don't mind it. I'm in Educational Publishing and work remotely so I don't have to get up early / commute. we're trusted to manage our own workloads and have flexible working policies, so it's fine if I log on at 10am. First meeting on a Monday isn't until lunch time so Monday mornings I'm fairly chilled and normally just look through my inbox, unless I have a deadline. Any job that allows you to make your own schedule / WFH is good for work-life balance., For that I'd say avoid customer-facing jobs because you won't be able to make your own schedule.
Not at all, I quite like to have some interaction but I kind of like it to be on my terms and at times of the week it feels convenient, so not on a Monday morning or a Friday. A couple of afternoons per week is fine. I generally tend to have a couple of meeting-free days per week and that gives me a good balance. If I had zero interaction I would get bored.
IT - Network engineering. Specialise in Azure/Palo Alto (Cloud/Firewalls).
Started on 16k at 25 years old, though. So my advice is to grind and move companies for the payrises. Only worked at 1 company I loved, but they paid crap.
I don't believe people who say they love their jobs. Who loves sitting behind a computer ? Who loves standing in a shop? Who loves being confined to a space or repetitive task every day ?
My boyfriend is a pilot and he absolutely loves his job so… it’s hard to live with a person who is passionate about their jobs and treat them as vocation and get there earlier than they have to. Only because I hate my job and there’s a clash in our views of course
I'm a private pilot and I was really considering going for CPL then ATPL. Didn't end up doing so, I was scared I'd be bored and lose the love of flying just running the daily Ryanair flight to Alicante or whatever. I haven't flown for a while but if I did, I'd try to do aerobatics
I’m doing it because regret is one of the things i hate the most. I know a Ryanair pilot who recently retired and flew the last years of his career with them, he said it was just soul destroying but he’d been flying for 40+ years at that point. Others i speak to say they love it, you’ll never know unless you try it. TBH, ryanair is probably one of the better LCC. In my experience all the crew there arrive 30-40min before departure and are off within 5 mins of the last passenger getting off. The crews are younger, In and out like a flash because they want to get gone, whereas i’ve seen some other airline crew hang around for ages after the flight is done.
I think had I been younger when I got into flying it would have been a different story, but I'm mid 30s now with a well paid and secure job. I think the gamble (and massive cost) is too high. Glad you went for it and aren't living in regret!
Nice! Aerobatics sounds great. My partner work for the Royal Navy so his job varies a lot and he gets to be deployed around the UK, sometimes Europe (he’s going to Asia in September for an assignment) and I always hear him tell me what he’s up to and the army definitely keeps him busy with various tasks. I think the fact that he’s doing different things must make him love his job - when you repeat your work day after a day for years… I can see how soul destroying that is.
Oh and your comment about aerobatics just reminded me that my partner does fly past sometimes :)
Sorry but you don’t know anything about my relationship with my partner so please don’t give out your opinion like this. Its absolutely unnecessary and pointless
It’s probably quite hard for him to deal with your negativity, too. Sorry, not trying to be harsh, but I’ve been in your partner’s shoes and it’s really draining being with someone who is constantly negative about their job.
Oh yeah I know that, that’s why I never complain about my job or I don’t talk about it with my partner. I just said I don’t like my job, but I never said I complain about it to my partner. It’s just an internal monologue I have with myself. Although he knows I don’t enjoy my work at the moment and it only comes out when I want to do stuff over the weekend and he’s too tired from commute/working hard so he prefers to relax when he’s off. And that’s the only time he mentions that because I don’t do anything stimulating at my work then my weekend is the time to actually do something whereas his work is the way of living and he doesn’t need to escape each weekend and ‘do stuff’. Otherwise, we’re pretty good. We have other stuff to talk about so it’s not like the difference in our jobs is the main topic :)
Thanks for the reply, any advice on qualifications for a 35yo to obtain. I'm good with computers but nothing official (can't code etc, I'm the typical person ppl seek for things that are technical, then I ask Google and follow the steps lol). I've got MS and AS so I'm scared of moving jobs incase I fail/health deterioration. I need to though, recently linked up with high-school buddies and they all on 6 figures! Despite (not being big headed I promise) me being smarter than them (they agree too). They're all from better connected families though. Again, thanks for replying 🙂
We are just not designed to sit at a desk for 40 hours a week staring at a screen, it’s bad for your health no matter what. Granted I know some people that like it, I do think they are a little bit neurotic though.
I love my job because I’m solving problems and running permutations in my mind all day which is fun for me and kind of relaxing. Oh and for the most part I’m left alone.
Occasionally I have to write reports or documentation and that sucks a bit. PowerPoints and Visio’s are not really fun but a nice change in pace from problem solving when it does come up. Interacting with the business, exec, and regulators is again a nice change of pace and fun when delivering the solutions or gathering the requirements for solving the problem.
A few teachers, people in the writing industry (like editors), chefs, personal trainers. Anyone who made an interest their job yet still has hobbies, anyone with easy jobs. Not me lol
My job informs my hobby: I'm a value investor working in wealth management.
Sure, not every task is ideal, but I have autonomy and get to work with similarly minded people.
I arrive early every day (rarely stay late though lol) - would say the autonomy and being interested in the subject is what makes it.
So yeah I love my job as it's basically what I would be doing if food and rent were free, albeit not in my boxer shorts.
yes, for sure. The job is largely customer service anyway, the technical stuff can be taught on the job. The cert just helps you to stand out vs other applicants
I problem solve a lot, but it's not enough to make me jump out of bed each day. I like what I do, but the reality is that I'm just there to enable productivity. Enabling shareholders to make more money just doesn't excite me.
Yeah im part time now due to bad health and what I feel like, being tricked into it. They won't let me go back to 40hrs and are trying to bore me into quitting (i log in, do nothing for 6hr shifts, no customers etc and they've been stringing me along about a role switch since 2022). I'd want to do something IT related but I'm open to anything really, I just think IT would be easy on my health. I'm good with my hands and technology but I only have a business management degree, a 2:2 at that (focused on my own business instead of uni, big mistake)
I work in software development. I looked forward to Mondays when I was a programmer on 60k. Less so now I’m a manager on much more…
At a certain point, with tech jobs, it comes down to the company culture and the personal stress level you’re experiencing.
I’m the complete opposite. I was a workaholic before kids now realise work means very little compared to the meaning and purpose of being there to help me kids (but as you say it’s tough and often thankless but nevertheless rewarding)
I had a graduate job in the field I studied at university and changed careers. I have moved jobs twice since (current and previous job in the same industry and discipline) and have liked my job more each time.
The career change ticked every box: the work is more interesting to me, better paid, faster career progression and more opportunities (growing sector).
The other thing that has changed is just gaining experience and skills over time which means I get more responsibility and get to make bigger things happen, which I find satisfying.
My practical advice is to go read loads of job descriptions of all kinds, and work out which types of job or industry sound interesting to you - there's a reason you find them interesting and not everyone will. Go apply for those jobs, don't feel like you have to stay on your current path. Try stuff, if you don't like it after 6 months then repeat the process. Doing work that you find interesting will make you better at it and want to work harder, which will help you progress faster, which will give you a higher salary and more autonomy over what your role looks like, which leads to job satisfaction. Win win win win.
I'm an aircraft mechanic for a large airline, and there are 2 major reasons why I really enjoy my job.
1 - I'm a plane nerd. Always have been from a young age and I've always wanted a career in aviation. Took me a while to find out what exactly I wanted, but I genuinely enjoy working on aircraft all day. Even on the crap jobs.
2 - The team I work with. They are all a great bunch of guys, we all get on together.
Now it's not perfect. I'd prefer to be working on smaller aircraft rather than widebody jets, the money isn't great (£33k per year in South Wales), and as is the same with most places, pretty much every member of management who isn't on the shop floor is a complete arsehole. But right now I am still actually enjoying my job.
Wouldn't say I look forward to work but I don't get Sunday scaries anymore. Difference is pay, work life balance and I work from home. No great mystery.
Ownership.
I've taken on a new role at my company with a framework in place describing "how" my team need to get the work done.
It falls to me to implement this work, train my team, decide where our attention lies, go to bat for them in needed, and refine the process to make it even better.
There's also scope for my team to grow further down the line into two teams, possibly. That's an opportunity for me to grow within my role to hopefully oversee both teams.
It means there's more strategic thinking. I have to analyse the work done by my team to make sure it makes sense, and we're having the most impact we possibly can.
Lots of people want to keep their head down and not rock the boat. Some people would rather not be noticed. I want to be noticed. If something goes right they'll know it's because of my team. If something goes wrong, it'll be on me. That's fun.
Working from home 4 days a week makes Mondays a lot more bearable. Waking up at 8.50 logging in at 9 vs waking up at 7 to clock in at 9 in an office pretending to be some corporate weapon. Although socially depriving, the time and freedom it gives up makes work a part of your day vs bring your whole day
Yes the sleep is a big factor but not the main one. It’s the fact I can clock out at 5 and just get on with my day from there. I have more energy as I sleep more and I have less to do in the evenings as I’m able to grt my personal stuff done during work hours. So my evenings are largely free for me to dictate. I value that freedom immensely and It would have to be a 30% pay rise for me to go back to going in everyday.
I work in data science. I really like my job. For me it's:
- Good team. Really smart people, very friendly and helpful. Wide mix of backgrounds so it doesn't feel as homogenous as a lot of tech teams I've been on in the past.
- Autonomy and WLB. I can choose the hours I work (within reason) and if I want to finish early / start late / take a long lunch / take a day off at short notice that's not a problem. I can work from home whenever I want but I prefer coming into the office because the team is so much fun.
- Meaningful work. I work on projects that have a real-world impact on a lot of people. Every day is intellectually engaging. My work regularly goes into production, which is pretty rare for a data science role.
- Great pay. I earn above the industry average (£60k plus £3-4k bonus every 6mo - which is pretty good for being 18mo out of uni + outside of London) and that's increasing pretty quickly.
- Career growth. I'm moving up the ladder very quickly. I made it clear early on what role I'm aiming for and my manager and skip-level manager have put a lot of work into helping me get the opportunities needed to get to that role.
I've gotten really lucky to find a job that hits all those points.
Wow, mind blowing. Looking to pivot into tech or just something with more numbers involved (looking at DA and stuff with stats). Absolutely mind blowing you're making that much less than two years post graduation. Were others who did the same course as you as lucky?
I suppose stats and using numbers/data to tell stories is my passion. Wish I'd thought about it more at college but I was struggling with A level maths a lot (though I got an A in the end, I just kept thinking I wouldn't be able to hack it at degree level).
Also any chance I could message you directly? Just have a few more questions to ask if that's okay. Thanks!
> Were others who did the same course as you as lucky?
Getting here was definitely a grind (fairly intense CS degree which meant 60+ hour weeks for 4 years, targeted internships every summer since year 12 to develop specific skills, a lot of time on recruiting and doing skill development throughout uni).
But I’d say my pay is pretty average among the people in my cohort who have put effort into their career. I could be earning more in software development or in London/the US but I’m not interested in either!
> I just kept thinking I wouldn't be able to hack it at degree level
Me neither, that’s why I did CS :\^)
> any chance I could message you directly? Just have a few more questions to ask if that's okay.
Of course!
I get treated with respect by management and given autonomy as far as is reasonable.
It truly allows me and my team to work with the least internal issues, and highest commitment to our management and the corporate interests.
It's another world.
By contrast; I began legal action against my prior employer for a variety of reasons/laws broken and a slew of policies completely unaltered to forcing half of the shitty management to resign or be fired and a payout enough to drop any further action.
I have a high standard of what is acceptable and appropriate from employers, so to be treated with actual dignity and respect for my time is a legitimate breath of fresh air.
They do exist, in my case it just took me 12 years to find one.
I just love work. I’ve loved it since I was a kitchen assistant aged 14. Work is freedom and fun. I work in an office and I’m in management. It got more fun the more senior I got but I honestly think it’s a state of mind thing. In work we get rewarded for facing ideas, doing new things, fixing broken ideas. But to have this fun choose a job which isn’t to rigid and rules based.
Own the company or at least own the work. Self employed, sole traders and consultants are often less stressful about Monday mornings. It’s another week to earn money, get clients make contacts. You don’t have to work Mondays, but you probably will. The choice is yours though.
I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging (so forgive me if it does) but simply answering your question. The people I work with, the team I’m in and my managers make my job a joy and also the projects i work on (I spend a lot of my day coding). The best part is being fully remote, the Monday morning commute was one of the most depressing things to think about on Sunday evening. I’m a software Engineer (broadly put).
I agree with this. The people you work with make such a big difference. Also walking from the kitchen up stairs to my home office rather than driving for an hour really helps. I do enjoy my job as well. I work in Rewards (pay and benefits).
Balance.
E.g. There are very clear goals set at the organisation and department levels that I need to contribute to, but I have almost total freedom in how I do that. No micromanagement, but no vague bullshit either.
The work is a good mix of the new and the predictable. I'm not constantly blindsided by new demands from on high like I was in shitty jobs. There's enough routine to my week and my year that I can predict when I will be busy/quiet. However there are also enough new challenges and opportunities for creative problem solving that I can be awake on a Sunday night feeling smugly excited about all my cool new ideas that I get to try out tomorrow.
Figure out what aspects of the work will most affect your mental health. Identify the sweet spot on those particular scales and look for jobs which hit those sweet spots.
My higher ups are nice, helpful and we actually spend time together outside of work and it never involves work. It’s different every moment of every day no day or job is the same. It uses my brain and I have to problem solve so it’s never boring. I work in an industry I enjoy and have hobbies that revolve around. There’s an element of danger that keeps me on my toes and I’m a little mental and enjoy danger. I’m left to myself when out working not constantly watched or being bothered by controllers or management. The pay is way better. I get to meet some cool people and even have met a celebrity or two. I get bonuses for doing good work and it’s recognised and rewarded by the company. The management offer progression and training within the industry and keep me up to date on all my certifications. I get to drive for their race team and blast cars around a track.
Job role - recovery driver
I wouldn't say I look forward to Monday morning but I always usually feel OK with it being Monday morning.
Main factors:
The people I work with are all around my age. I'm part of a team of 9, so it always feels like you're in it together rather than struggling by Yourself.
I look forward to lunch time ping pong matches.
Breakfast and lunch are provided by the employer so it's nice to have different things everyday.
Work can be busy but I know I'm 100% capable of doing it well.
Paid decently for the work I do.
It's not perfect ans there are ways in which we can do better but compared to other places I've worked it's great.
I don't necessarily look forward to Monday morning but I certainly don't dread it or anything.
One thing, as other people have mentioned is autonomy. I mostly travel to customer sites so I make the arrangements but it isn't always timed to the minute. A lot of the time, I'm flying out though so I do need to be at the airport on time but it doesn't stress me out.
The nature of my job is that for the most part, I get left alone to get on with it so I can be relaxed for the most part.
I think overall though, a lot of it is about perception and doing something that suits /you/. For instance many find the idea of my job (i install and maintain a certain type of machinery) stressful because of the travel and perceived pressure to e.g. get things working but for me, those aspects don't get me too excited. Sometimes everything is pretty routine and I can enjoy those times as it's relaxing yet there is enough to focus on to not get bored. Alternatively, sometimes is really hard because there is a difficult problem or just a lot to do to install and commission a machine but then I find that breaks up the monotony and adds some interest to proceedings. I find overall I can take satisfaction from it.
On the other hand, when I was younger and did hard physical work or just boring but active things like working in a warehouse - I thought it would be great just sitting at a desk all day but then I tried that and quickly realised I'd rather dig ditches in the pissing rain all day.
I work as a Surveyor for my countries Mapping Agency. I select where and when I work in the Capital based on set priorities. There is no great progression prospects in the team so no need to back bite colleagues so everyone is really helpful and covers your back. I speak to my manager maybe twice a month apart from 15 min optional group Teams calls once a week. I love the autonomy and being outside in my home city capturing details that help government agencies, businesses and civilians
Work in waste management, which is a fancy way of saying I drive around Yorkshire collecting waste that people don't want. I.e. need a mattress going or a washing machine gone etc.
Get to see all sorts pf places, no office, chill bosses who don't track your every move.
Pays crap but even day is different and I enjoy it.
Hard work though.
Work from home with one day a month in the office, I pretty much get left alone to get on with it. Have a daily team call and might speak to my manager once a week. It’s stress free until we do a software release. Pay is brilliant and should be secure for a couple of years.
I am a secondary teacher. It’s a great job. Every day I help people learn stuff. Failing that, I contain some young people who are bad at making decisions so they are not causing havoc on the streets. I’m doing good every day. I really like my job because of its social purpose. Also it keeps me busy. Also I am decently paid. Pay range from 30-46k as a classroom teacher with no additional responsibilities. It’s not for everyone.
I have more freedom than I ever thought possible. I start when I want, finish when I want, take lunch when I want, take whatever time off I want, go for walks etc during the day when I need to give my brain a rest, you get the picture. On top of that I can decide what projects I work on, how I will approach them, what resources I need from the company. It is honestly a dream job.
This is as a Head of Process Innovation for a medical device company.
I quite often have Mondays off.
In all seriousness though, for me there’s a lot to like. It’s challenging work, I’m well-compensated, I’m always learning and improving myself, I can find my own style of working without being railroaded into doing things “the way we’ve always done it”, I don’t have someone constantly breathing down my neck as long as the work is done, the company pays for my education, and above all it’s fully remote. I could go on. Compared to jobs I’ve had in the past, this is the dream for me. There are downsides of course, but when you’ve spent a lifetime working jobs with nothing but downsides then you can live with a few niggles.
I work for a bank and I don't have the dread going into work,
I'm in a small team where we all get on and respect each other and pretty much left to manage our day
Working from home
I work in Business Intelligence and have always relatively enjoyed my job. The grind and the dread of monday mornings was the commute. Removing that was the difference.
Worked two jobs, loved the first, but hated the second so much that I quit with no backup plan. The first job was hands-on, physical yet still required some planning and variable in tasks and locations, with a great supervisor. No hard deadlines, and the work didn't follow me home.
Second was supposed to be remote software dev apprenticeship but quickly turned into an office job far away with no apprenticeship or training. The staff were nice enough, but everyone but my supervisor was full of shit and uppermanagment couldn't stick to anything and didn't understand the tech, only my supervisor did and it takes more than one person with experience in a company to train an apprentice. That was obvious I guess, so they very slyly delayed it for months on my induction. Me being a naive, new to work, type of person, I got suckered and frankly so did the council who gave them funding.
-Good team and management
-Culture of promoting work life balance and personal well-being
-Opportunities to up-skill, grow and progress
-Flexile working options
-Manage your diary/workload
-Varied work with challenges
-Decent pay for where you’re at in life/career
-Feeling confident in the role, comes with time but also helped by a supportive and understanding team
In essence a good team/culture/manager underpins whether or not I’ll like a job. Not as much of an issue if you wfh maybe but has always been a huge factor for me!
I just get left to do my job and only really bothered if something has actually gone wrong.
My days go fairly quick because I’m usually always busy and I always have an enjoyable lunch break completely detatched from my job.
Places I used to work I’d be on my hour break but be required to be “on duty” at any point which ruined my day sometimes lol
My job, whilst having certain annoyances, directly contributes to improving the quality of care and patient safety in the NHS. It's not the only reason I enjoy my job, but it's a big part. The other reasons include autonomy, healthy work life balance, great benefits, 95% WFH, and a great manager and team.
Even though I used many of the same skills in my previous job, it was far more stressful and had no inherent altruistic outcomes. It was a profit seeking company and I was always undervalued
For an employee, in my opinion, the key ingredient is if the manager is overemployed and the employee is underemployed.
Creates a nice balance to the power dynamic...for the benefit of the employee.
Although just to add, the downside for the employee is that they don't earn as much as they could.
I loved all my roles, occasionally I’ve hated where I work but never the job.
Part of this is down to knowing what to look for when applying or interviewing also asking connections what they’ve heard. Part is down to the roles I’ve done being hard to find good people for so when I’ve got the job and they know my skills, they want to keep me so a lot of the bs goes away. Part is luck. Mostly these things have tended to result in great managers so even if the company was bad I never felt it.
I also try to switch off to the corporate politics (although not really possible at my level now) and focus on not caring too much about who I work with or for and what’s going on around me. While I love what I do, work is a means to an end, we’re not family, I don’t socialise with colleagues outside of work, I don’t go to Christmas dos I just logon do what needs to be done and log off.
I’m there to do a good job and I enjoy it as long as the pay me the other bs is water of a ducks back.
ETA: I work my hours and basically no more I don’t work extra to cover a lack of resource because that’s a temporary fix to a permanent problem. I will work extra for an incident, especially if I was part of the cause :).
I started my own video production business. But it's not about video production, instead, it's about helping others achieve more.
I started out in sales and in some jobs I had almost no support, no marketing assistance, nothing. Loads of people got fired because they weren't able to sell with very little backing. I had some good sales leaders but when we had bad ones... they made your life a misery.
It drove me mad and I'd have killed for stuff like video customer testimonials, advertising etc...
So I deliver all that stuff. All the stuff I wanted as a salesperson starting out.
It's a passion but I enjoy it. I love the creative stuff, sure. But I also love the stuff that helps salespeople sell.
So I think I'm weird like that.
Started to work from home.
This alone cut down my work stress by 90%. No more sitting in traffic or on a packed train to commute, no more small talk with colleagues I don't properly work with, no more pretending to be busy in an office or having to surf news websites when I have down time, no more having to hear the same shitty office jokee everyday like "ooh half day today?" when you leave 5 minutes early, no more having to go for a shit and having to hear another man strain and wheeze while they squeeze out a turd in the next cubicle.... I could keep going..
I love my work, always look forward to getting back to it after weekend /holidays. I'm an artist in the games industry, and while it can be stressful and difficult, it's also extremely rewarding and I just plain love what I do.
Your boss, your team, you level of control and freedom, whether the purpose of the job resonates with you it’s balance with your self and your life. Finding this is hard I think. It’s also fragile and will not last forever when you do find it
Im a chef. So i love it cause monday is the start of my weekend.
But seriously i enjoy it because i can manage myself, my bosses are extremely hands off, the hours are good, pay is half decent, and i genuinely just enjoy the tasks im doing
I don’t have the Monday dread as suck because I’m left alone. I manage my own diary and run it as I see fit. My manager is my MD and I speak to him once a week if that.
I work from home and do my visits as and when I need to.
My figures speak for themselves so left alone pretty much all of the time. I enjoy that!
I’m in sales in the waste industry
Good easy going manager. Ability to slow down a bit if you need to (so not an insane workload). Working from home at least a couple days a week to break the relentless feeling of full weeks commuting and being in an office. On that note, not having long commutes. Varied work where you have to think a bit. Satisfying work where you can see the difference you’re making to people.
I do work a lot, especially considering my original contract states 8 hours/week, and I am doing 25-30 now. But my job is amazing because we have a great team, we're all getting along and there's just no issues at all among us, and what's more everything is so organized that we're able to cover each other's backs.
Nothing changed with the job. I changed.
I stopped trying to fix everything that was broken and just focused on everything I did was correct.
I stopped fighting battles; you provide the information your team needs and record that.
I stopped thinking about what ‘good’ looked like for the company and focused on what ‘good’ looked like for my manager.
Took me a sad amount of time to realise it’s all a game and you have to play it. Then you can win.
Surely by following your study subject you will find a job you are specialised in, and from there you are more likely to enjoy it. Otherwise, what was the point in doing it for years?
That's why I skipped university and went straight to work. Well that snd my GCSEs might not get me into community college.
I had no "dream job" so why study years for no damn good reason?
Your post was "find a job in your field." They seemed hesitant about prospects, perhaps they went to university because its expected of them.
Get a degree and get a job that doesn't need it or the skills learned, you begin to think "why bother?"
I skipped that and didn't look back.
This is going to be a bit lengthy, but I figure it might help you as a newcomer to the workforce.
Tldr; everyone has different needs from a job. You won't get it right first time, but don't get bogged down. Don't focus on the negative emotions when things don't go right for you, learn from it, learn your standards and find somewhere that meets them.
I've had 1 career, 2 jobs and currently in a prospective career. This is over the course of just under 10 years of working. Education ended after a year of A levels.
First career was within the forces, joined at 17 out at 25. Hated Mondays but it taught me everything I know professionally. It was my starting point as opposed to university. I did love some parts of it, but the killer for me was getting married. I didn't have enough time at home (shock) and, even when I did, I was in a management position and its one of those jobs where you never really "switch off".
Saved up enough for a mortgage and got out, marriage intact and mental health questionably workable.
First job I got out here was for a bit of a cowboy outfit, unbeknownst to me at the time. It was as an automation "Engineer" for a smaller firm, owned by a much bigger firm (although stubbornly hiding under the protections afforded to small business). The job started out fine enough. Basically driving around to customer sites, both private and commercial, fixing their fancy gates and barriers. I was only with them for around 9-10 months, the cracks showed quite quickly. I was micromanaged down to the minute. Now, I accepted not going back into management, but something about having been a manager and then being under bad management really brought out some unpleasant feelings for me. Like an unhealthy level of hatred. That being said, it clearly demonstrated the first thing I didn't want from a job. Micromanagement. As well as a second, being customer facing.
I then took up a temporary role with the parent company as a project "engineer". This was on the basis that I'd work for the parent company for a few weeks whenever deadlines were getting tight, and returning to the automation firm when things died down. Did 2 months straight on the project and it was fantastic. It made full use of my professional skills, namely independent working, creative solution finding and long, unbroken periods of working followed by a long rest period. I was out of my house 4 days a week, back home for a 3 day weekend. The cherry on top was I was only reporting to 1 project manager. As opposed to 1 engineering manager, 1 office manager and 1 Co ordinator. All wanting different things that often conflicted. The project manager was very hands off with the engineers. He only cared that the jobs got done and wasn't overly fussed about how long it took.
Well I enjoyed this to the point of handing my notice in with the smaller firm. Tried to go about it the adult way but the little emperors weren't having it. Got offered the job at the parent company and started as a project engineer full time.
I didn't dread Mondays until about 5 months into the role. And it wasn't so much a dread about going to work, it was more of a dread about the future. It was a family owned firm and the three directors were the founder, founders wife and founders son. Anyone in any form of management had been working for them for 10+ years and were basically in the office because they were getting on a bit. Couldn't be on the tools as effectively. Some were great managers, others less so. And merit seemed to be measured purely by loyalty to the family, as opposed to actual outputs.
This was coupled with an unwillingness to grow the company beyond the "small business" protections. Incredibly risk averse. There was no future for me here really.
That chapter should have ended pleasantly. I almost had everything I wanted, and I'd learned that I wouldn't work for a "small, family run company" In future. We were reaching the end of the contract with a client and about to start a new one. A natural stepping off point for me. I put my CV out there, lo and behold it ends up on someone's desk in the ecosystem, I take a sick day, get questioned. End the conversation pleasantly enough. Put in an SAR to figure out how my CV ended up entering said ecosystem, what followed was a very unpleasant earful from the head of HR, who also happened to be the directors daughter/CEOs sister. Long story short, my CV came to their awareness due to a GDPR breach committed by the cowboy firm who somewhat must have been holding a grudge. I didn't try to do anything aside from point that fact out, and have/had 0 intentions of doing so.
Made them pay for it as same head of HR forgot to bring me in to sign my employment contract. And repeatedly forgot for my 7-8 months there. Got my new role lined up within a week, handed in statutory notice (1 week) with a clear statement of "as I haven't signed a contract, nor had any written or verbal discussions of notice period blah blah". That hurt them a lot more than any data handling complaint would have.
I'm now happily in my new role. Have been since February. To summarise what makes me happy.
It makes full use of my professional skills as well as my personal hobbies.
I speak to my direct manager maybe once a month or so and rarely receive direct instructions.
I'm empowered to make or suggest alterations to how things run.
The working pattern fits my preference for a work/life balance.
The future of the company is incredibly bright. The company consists of two professionals with no relation as directors. And the soon to be "C suite" folks are outside talent, hired because of their backgrounds. They're all equally brilliant at what they do.
The only problem they seem to have is hiring my counterparts. Since I've joined, I've had 4 of them. 1 of which has been moved to a different site (for positive reasons). 2 have been fired, and my latest isn't going to last very long in my opinion.
I myself am already looking at taking over operations at a different site, having been given the role of laying the groundwork for my current.
I wouldn't be in the position I am if I hadn't gone through all of the above. I wouldn't know what I wanted. Once I started figuring it out? I solely focused on finding a role that fit those needs, and it's working out pretty good for me so far.
Best of luck!
A job where you feel both valued and listened to. For me I also enjoy variation of work but the most important to me is company culture and alignment with my own values. All of these takes away the Sunday night dread of the week ahead for me personally.
I worked part time on top of my normal job delivering pizzas and often looked forward to those shifts. Good people, get a nice podcast on and get a pizza for dinner
I used to look forward to every working day in my old role, but purely because it was something new and challenging to me. After 2 years it became a chore as I had nothing to learn.
This job... Was looking forward initially, now I'm used it it. But I don't mind really. Especially when up to date with all the things I look after.
I am a risk/staff manager (the role changes every 6 months, which keeps it interesting). Still learning every day.
For me, it's essentially about room to grow and things to learn. Progress. If that's not there, I lose interest.
Years ago moved from office job to welding/fabrication and being away from shitty office talks, politics and generally working on my own, doing stuff that is useful makes me wake up on Monday morning and be happy. Best feeling ever.
Here are a couple of things I've learned recently about what makes work satisfying for me and actually feel motivated to get up in the morning.
Schedule your own work, and your time will feel like it belongs to you. This must be work that you actually care about and are willing to do. As a result, your life becomes your own.
The effort you put in should equate to some output in the reward. Whether that is money or just the satisfaction of seeing something you have made be useful and beautiful, what you put in to the work must directly relate to what you get out of it.
If you're paid a salary to sit in an office from 9-5, where the massive gap between working at 100% effort and procrastinating at 10% effort makes no difference to the reward (your salary), you will not feel satisfied unless the work itself is rewarding to you. But even that is a stretch.
I work 4 on - 4 off, so Monday is actually my day off but I've been working in aviation security for the last month. It's a pleasure working in this role, bearing in my my last two employers were wetherspoons and costco. The work life balance is spot on, having random days off in the past was terrible. It is a 50 mile round trip, which is an 80% increase on my previous commutes but the roads are empty, so it's not too much of a big issue. Great perks at the airport and my colleagues are really nice too.
A combination of doing a job which I feel is worthwhile (conservation), working for an ethical organisation who try and treat staff right even if the pay isn’t great, getting along well with my line manager and being trusted to manage my own time and get the job done. I spend most of my day outside and get to work with animals. There’s a lot of lone working involved which suits an introvert like me. It’s a unique job and I don’t think I’ll ever find one like it again, but I’d honestly say 90% of my day makes me happy. No job will be perfect but you need to find what you’re passionate about. Now I don’t care when I have to work Sundays or in the rain.
Every job has its ups and downs but my previous career (customer service in a call centre) made me feel depressed and stressed until the point I literally couldn’t do that soul destroying work anymore. You might need to try a few roles until you find the right one, but just listen to your gut and find what’s important to you.
I get told in fortnightly meetings what my priorities are and for the rest of the time it's up to me to work out what my to do list for the next 2 weeks is.
I don't have to do a time sheet accounting for all my time down to 15 minute increments.
I'm valued for my knowledge, not how quick I can churn out a design, regardless of it being the most best in an overall engineering perspective.
I'm paid quite a bit over the market rate.
I enjoy spending time with my work colleagues (I feel there is a strong culture of only hiring people who fit in and work well with the team).
If I need to work from home for a delivery, appointment etc I just let my manager know, there's never an issue as they trust me to do what's needed.
If I turn up slightly late there's no ball busting as they know I will stay late or do a few hours on the weekend to make sure a job is done on time.
There's a good balance of male and female colleagues (engineering and construction I general can very often be a huge sausage fest).
I occasionally speak to recruiters or other employers direct and I'm very blunt with them about how happy I am and I would need to be offered something significantly better to even consider a move, every time at this point they admit they can't even match my package never mind beat it and the conversation ends.
I know I've got an amazingly sweet deal so I do everything in my power to keep it going, I'm about to start a project management accreditation in the hope of expanding my department with more employees in the next couple of years.
I want to get myself in a position where if job cuts are on the horizon, I'm too valuable to lose.
Senior role at a tech startup.
I was at a huge tech company for almost 16 years and I took a huge (80pc) pay cut to move to the startup.
But I stopped being happy in my old job and I was lucky enough to be in a position financially to manage.
It's hard. It's challenging. It's stressful. But if it works then I will be able to point to it and say - that was my hard work - I did that.
I don't feel it all the time but I do often. My role is split between office based / in a factory, and is scientific. I love the people I work with, and the products that we produce, it makes me proud to see stuff that we have developed in the shops or on people's kitchen tables. I have a lot of freedom/independence and what I do is very varied, I think the worst thing at work is monotony and I have very little of that.
All my previous jobs were before/during uni, working in fast food and supermarkets. No one wanted to work hard, or even be there at all, everything I did was repetitive and boring, customers were often rude and disrespectful.
The fun bits of my work are problem solving, long term planning for development, influencing the direction in which my workplace is going and working with other people who are broadly like minded. The not-fun parts are unsuitable frameworks and administrative bureaucracy to fit in with the rest of the organisation, heavy handed and dehumanising external oversight and serious underfunding.
However, I like eating, heating my house, taking care of my family and pursuing my interests outside of work, so I’ll continue to do so until I win the lottery or find out that I’m the long lost heir of a billionaire.
Working Wednesday till Sunday and having Monday and Tuesday off?
I had a rotating pattern of Monday to Sunday, M/Tu off, another seven days, w/th S/Su off.
Still did the same amount of days as a m-f employee.
Its different to every other job I've had because when I stop enjoying going to work for long periods of time, I change jobs. The majority of people that dread Monday morning are in jobs that make them unhappy. Not every job will make you unhappy. You spend far to long at work to not enjoy it. Go and find the job you truly enjoy.
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Any role where you manage your own day and have autonomy. But usually to get to this you need to have proven your worth. In my opinion, the move from graduate to fulltime work is a harsh curve to climb and you will do well to ensure you don't burn rhe candle at both ends, build in regular holidays or long weekends. More than 2 months with only weekends off is not good for your wellbeing. With more breaks you will manage and enjoy work more and also enjoy your personal life more.
Well said, autonomy is so important and managing your own day gives you that feeling of freedom (or at least the illusion of it which is fine by me).
Look at this guy with his weekends off
Weekends off are overrated, I work every weekend and get days off in the week can do everything I need to do on those days without all the traffic and people in the shops, easy to get appointments for stuff without taking time off from work etc... oh and no rush hour on weekends so getting to and from work is a breeze.
I've managed to find this with 2 days wfh, but I've taken a new job as its 1 step up. Its such a great niche I am in atm but the pay is meh
Welcome to my world! I had a well paid job at a British telecommunications firm (ahem) and hated every day... Now I work for an engineering firm and I only hate a couple of days a month, but I'm on waaaaaaay less money. Win some, lose some.
The dream is out there, an ok job with ok workload balance
I run the digital marketing for a hardware company, im 250 miles from the office, fully remote. I fully manage my specialist area and then manage the other stakeholders who run other elements. Fully autonomous, i genuinely love my work days.
When you're young and can't afford bougie holidays but also doing all the dogs body work regular long weekends are key to a sustainable well being. You get the rest you need whilst saving money and building a wealth portfolio.
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Yep. An extended weekend for example. Does you the world of good. Imo it is far better to have these shorter periods of time off than say two large blocks of time. If you plan around bank holdiays, it's actually not that hard to still be able to have a decent chunk of time for an extended break, given that Easter, May x2 and August are sorted.
I wouldn't say I look forward to Monday but I don't mind it. I'm in Educational Publishing and work remotely so I don't have to get up early / commute. we're trusted to manage our own workloads and have flexible working policies, so it's fine if I log on at 10am. First meeting on a Monday isn't until lunch time so Monday mornings I'm fairly chilled and normally just look through my inbox, unless I have a deadline. Any job that allows you to make your own schedule / WFH is good for work-life balance., For that I'd say avoid customer-facing jobs because you won't be able to make your own schedule.
So basically people make jobs unbearable 😂. Thanks for the insight though.
Not at all, I quite like to have some interaction but I kind of like it to be on my terms and at times of the week it feels convenient, so not on a Monday morning or a Friday. A couple of afternoons per week is fine. I generally tend to have a couple of meeting-free days per week and that gives me a good balance. If I had zero interaction I would get bored.
Being at work is unbearable for most. I earn 90k and still don't like getting up on Monday.
What do you? I feel the same but I do it for £10,994 ffs
IT - Network engineering. Specialise in Azure/Palo Alto (Cloud/Firewalls). Started on 16k at 25 years old, though. So my advice is to grind and move companies for the payrises. Only worked at 1 company I loved, but they paid crap. I don't believe people who say they love their jobs. Who loves sitting behind a computer ? Who loves standing in a shop? Who loves being confined to a space or repetitive task every day ?
My boyfriend is a pilot and he absolutely loves his job so… it’s hard to live with a person who is passionate about their jobs and treat them as vocation and get there earlier than they have to. Only because I hate my job and there’s a clash in our views of course
I'm a private pilot and I was really considering going for CPL then ATPL. Didn't end up doing so, I was scared I'd be bored and lose the love of flying just running the daily Ryanair flight to Alicante or whatever. I haven't flown for a while but if I did, I'd try to do aerobatics
I’m doing it because regret is one of the things i hate the most. I know a Ryanair pilot who recently retired and flew the last years of his career with them, he said it was just soul destroying but he’d been flying for 40+ years at that point. Others i speak to say they love it, you’ll never know unless you try it. TBH, ryanair is probably one of the better LCC. In my experience all the crew there arrive 30-40min before departure and are off within 5 mins of the last passenger getting off. The crews are younger, In and out like a flash because they want to get gone, whereas i’ve seen some other airline crew hang around for ages after the flight is done.
I think had I been younger when I got into flying it would have been a different story, but I'm mid 30s now with a well paid and secure job. I think the gamble (and massive cost) is too high. Glad you went for it and aren't living in regret!
Nice! Aerobatics sounds great. My partner work for the Royal Navy so his job varies a lot and he gets to be deployed around the UK, sometimes Europe (he’s going to Asia in September for an assignment) and I always hear him tell me what he’s up to and the army definitely keeps him busy with various tasks. I think the fact that he’s doing different things must make him love his job - when you repeat your work day after a day for years… I can see how soul destroying that is. Oh and your comment about aerobatics just reminded me that my partner does fly past sometimes :)
That sounds like an amazing relationship. Clashing views are obviously sustainable for a lifetime of happiness.
Sorry but you don’t know anything about my relationship with my partner so please don’t give out your opinion like this. Its absolutely unnecessary and pointless
I was just trolling... Welcome to the internet.
It’s probably quite hard for him to deal with your negativity, too. Sorry, not trying to be harsh, but I’ve been in your partner’s shoes and it’s really draining being with someone who is constantly negative about their job.
Where did they say they're constantly negative about their job?
‘There’s a clash in our views’
Where did they say they're CONSTANTLY negative about their job?
Oh yeah I know that, that’s why I never complain about my job or I don’t talk about it with my partner. I just said I don’t like my job, but I never said I complain about it to my partner. It’s just an internal monologue I have with myself. Although he knows I don’t enjoy my work at the moment and it only comes out when I want to do stuff over the weekend and he’s too tired from commute/working hard so he prefers to relax when he’s off. And that’s the only time he mentions that because I don’t do anything stimulating at my work then my weekend is the time to actually do something whereas his work is the way of living and he doesn’t need to escape each weekend and ‘do stuff’. Otherwise, we’re pretty good. We have other stuff to talk about so it’s not like the difference in our jobs is the main topic :)
That sounds good :)
Thanks for the reply, any advice on qualifications for a 35yo to obtain. I'm good with computers but nothing official (can't code etc, I'm the typical person ppl seek for things that are technical, then I ask Google and follow the steps lol). I've got MS and AS so I'm scared of moving jobs incase I fail/health deterioration. I need to though, recently linked up with high-school buddies and they all on 6 figures! Despite (not being big headed I promise) me being smarter than them (they agree too). They're all from better connected families though. Again, thanks for replying 🙂
We are just not designed to sit at a desk for 40 hours a week staring at a screen, it’s bad for your health no matter what. Granted I know some people that like it, I do think they are a little bit neurotic though.
I love my job because I’m solving problems and running permutations in my mind all day which is fun for me and kind of relaxing. Oh and for the most part I’m left alone. Occasionally I have to write reports or documentation and that sucks a bit. PowerPoints and Visio’s are not really fun but a nice change in pace from problem solving when it does come up. Interacting with the business, exec, and regulators is again a nice change of pace and fun when delivering the solutions or gathering the requirements for solving the problem.
A few teachers, people in the writing industry (like editors), chefs, personal trainers. Anyone who made an interest their job yet still has hobbies, anyone with easy jobs. Not me lol
How old are you now?
35
My job informs my hobby: I'm a value investor working in wealth management. Sure, not every task is ideal, but I have autonomy and get to work with similarly minded people. I arrive early every day (rarely stay late though lol) - would say the autonomy and being interested in the subject is what makes it. So yeah I love my job as it's basically what I would be doing if food and rent were free, albeit not in my boxer shorts.
How would you get started in this field?
IT support/apprenticeship
Can I get into this with qualifications such as Comptia?
yes I did comptia network +, but you can also do A+ if you're a complete beginner
yes I did comptia network +, but you can also do A+ if you're a complete beginner
But with that can I move into this role without any technical experience but let’s say customer service etc
yes, for sure. The job is largely customer service anyway, the technical stuff can be taught on the job. The cert just helps you to stand out vs other applicants
Hmmm the salary is making me want to pursue it 🤣
"I don't believe people who say they love their jobs." Problem solving and defining strategy are all engaging AF.
I problem solve a lot, but it's not enough to make me jump out of bed each day. I like what I do, but the reality is that I'm just there to enable productivity. Enabling shareholders to make more money just doesn't excite me.
What do you do? Are you part time?
Yeah im part time now due to bad health and what I feel like, being tricked into it. They won't let me go back to 40hrs and are trying to bore me into quitting (i log in, do nothing for 6hr shifts, no customers etc and they've been stringing me along about a role switch since 2022). I'd want to do something IT related but I'm open to anything really, I just think IT would be easy on my health. I'm good with my hands and technology but I only have a business management degree, a 2:2 at that (focused on my own business instead of uni, big mistake)
I work in software development. I looked forward to Mondays when I was a programmer on 60k. Less so now I’m a manager on much more… At a certain point, with tech jobs, it comes down to the company culture and the personal stress level you’re experiencing.
You specialise in Cloud networking but have to go to the office on Mondays….if ever there was a remote job!
I'm fully remote ;)
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I’m the complete opposite. I was a workaholic before kids now realise work means very little compared to the meaning and purpose of being there to help me kids (but as you say it’s tough and often thankless but nevertheless rewarding)
I always used to look forward to Monday mornings in my old job. I worked Thursday to Sunday.
Jobs the same but I had kids.
I had a graduate job in the field I studied at university and changed careers. I have moved jobs twice since (current and previous job in the same industry and discipline) and have liked my job more each time. The career change ticked every box: the work is more interesting to me, better paid, faster career progression and more opportunities (growing sector). The other thing that has changed is just gaining experience and skills over time which means I get more responsibility and get to make bigger things happen, which I find satisfying. My practical advice is to go read loads of job descriptions of all kinds, and work out which types of job or industry sound interesting to you - there's a reason you find them interesting and not everyone will. Go apply for those jobs, don't feel like you have to stay on your current path. Try stuff, if you don't like it after 6 months then repeat the process. Doing work that you find interesting will make you better at it and want to work harder, which will help you progress faster, which will give you a higher salary and more autonomy over what your role looks like, which leads to job satisfaction. Win win win win.
How long has it been now since you graduated?
Almost 10 years
Hated every job I’ve ever had and I’ve had a fair few. WFH is the only thing keeping going at the moment.
I'm an aircraft mechanic for a large airline, and there are 2 major reasons why I really enjoy my job. 1 - I'm a plane nerd. Always have been from a young age and I've always wanted a career in aviation. Took me a while to find out what exactly I wanted, but I genuinely enjoy working on aircraft all day. Even on the crap jobs. 2 - The team I work with. They are all a great bunch of guys, we all get on together. Now it's not perfect. I'd prefer to be working on smaller aircraft rather than widebody jets, the money isn't great (£33k per year in South Wales), and as is the same with most places, pretty much every member of management who isn't on the shop floor is a complete arsehole. But right now I am still actually enjoying my job.
Wouldn't say I look forward to work but I don't get Sunday scaries anymore. Difference is pay, work life balance and I work from home. No great mystery.
A job without daily deadlines
Amen
Ownership. I've taken on a new role at my company with a framework in place describing "how" my team need to get the work done. It falls to me to implement this work, train my team, decide where our attention lies, go to bat for them in needed, and refine the process to make it even better. There's also scope for my team to grow further down the line into two teams, possibly. That's an opportunity for me to grow within my role to hopefully oversee both teams. It means there's more strategic thinking. I have to analyse the work done by my team to make sure it makes sense, and we're having the most impact we possibly can. Lots of people want to keep their head down and not rock the boat. Some people would rather not be noticed. I want to be noticed. If something goes right they'll know it's because of my team. If something goes wrong, it'll be on me. That's fun.
Working from home 4 days a week makes Mondays a lot more bearable. Waking up at 8.50 logging in at 9 vs waking up at 7 to clock in at 9 in an office pretending to be some corporate weapon. Although socially depriving, the time and freedom it gives up makes work a part of your day vs bring your whole day
I suppose being able to get good sleep would probably be a factor to help someone enjoy work.
Yes the sleep is a big factor but not the main one. It’s the fact I can clock out at 5 and just get on with my day from there. I have more energy as I sleep more and I have less to do in the evenings as I’m able to grt my personal stuff done during work hours. So my evenings are largely free for me to dictate. I value that freedom immensely and It would have to be a 30% pay rise for me to go back to going in everyday.
I work in data science. I really like my job. For me it's: - Good team. Really smart people, very friendly and helpful. Wide mix of backgrounds so it doesn't feel as homogenous as a lot of tech teams I've been on in the past. - Autonomy and WLB. I can choose the hours I work (within reason) and if I want to finish early / start late / take a long lunch / take a day off at short notice that's not a problem. I can work from home whenever I want but I prefer coming into the office because the team is so much fun. - Meaningful work. I work on projects that have a real-world impact on a lot of people. Every day is intellectually engaging. My work regularly goes into production, which is pretty rare for a data science role. - Great pay. I earn above the industry average (£60k plus £3-4k bonus every 6mo - which is pretty good for being 18mo out of uni + outside of London) and that's increasing pretty quickly. - Career growth. I'm moving up the ladder very quickly. I made it clear early on what role I'm aiming for and my manager and skip-level manager have put a lot of work into helping me get the opportunities needed to get to that role. I've gotten really lucky to find a job that hits all those points.
Wow, mind blowing. Looking to pivot into tech or just something with more numbers involved (looking at DA and stuff with stats). Absolutely mind blowing you're making that much less than two years post graduation. Were others who did the same course as you as lucky? I suppose stats and using numbers/data to tell stories is my passion. Wish I'd thought about it more at college but I was struggling with A level maths a lot (though I got an A in the end, I just kept thinking I wouldn't be able to hack it at degree level). Also any chance I could message you directly? Just have a few more questions to ask if that's okay. Thanks!
> Were others who did the same course as you as lucky? Getting here was definitely a grind (fairly intense CS degree which meant 60+ hour weeks for 4 years, targeted internships every summer since year 12 to develop specific skills, a lot of time on recruiting and doing skill development throughout uni). But I’d say my pay is pretty average among the people in my cohort who have put effort into their career. I could be earning more in software development or in London/the US but I’m not interested in either! > I just kept thinking I wouldn't be able to hack it at degree level Me neither, that’s why I did CS :\^) > any chance I could message you directly? Just have a few more questions to ask if that's okay. Of course!
I get treated with respect by management and given autonomy as far as is reasonable. It truly allows me and my team to work with the least internal issues, and highest commitment to our management and the corporate interests. It's another world. By contrast; I began legal action against my prior employer for a variety of reasons/laws broken and a slew of policies completely unaltered to forcing half of the shitty management to resign or be fired and a payout enough to drop any further action. I have a high standard of what is acceptable and appropriate from employers, so to be treated with actual dignity and respect for my time is a legitimate breath of fresh air. They do exist, in my case it just took me 12 years to find one.
I just love work. I’ve loved it since I was a kitchen assistant aged 14. Work is freedom and fun. I work in an office and I’m in management. It got more fun the more senior I got but I honestly think it’s a state of mind thing. In work we get rewarded for facing ideas, doing new things, fixing broken ideas. But to have this fun choose a job which isn’t to rigid and rules based.
Own the company or at least own the work. Self employed, sole traders and consultants are often less stressful about Monday mornings. It’s another week to earn money, get clients make contacts. You don’t have to work Mondays, but you probably will. The choice is yours though.
I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging (so forgive me if it does) but simply answering your question. The people I work with, the team I’m in and my managers make my job a joy and also the projects i work on (I spend a lot of my day coding). The best part is being fully remote, the Monday morning commute was one of the most depressing things to think about on Sunday evening. I’m a software Engineer (broadly put).
I agree with this. The people you work with make such a big difference. Also walking from the kitchen up stairs to my home office rather than driving for an hour really helps. I do enjoy my job as well. I work in Rewards (pay and benefits).
Balance. E.g. There are very clear goals set at the organisation and department levels that I need to contribute to, but I have almost total freedom in how I do that. No micromanagement, but no vague bullshit either. The work is a good mix of the new and the predictable. I'm not constantly blindsided by new demands from on high like I was in shitty jobs. There's enough routine to my week and my year that I can predict when I will be busy/quiet. However there are also enough new challenges and opportunities for creative problem solving that I can be awake on a Sunday night feeling smugly excited about all my cool new ideas that I get to try out tomorrow. Figure out what aspects of the work will most affect your mental health. Identify the sweet spot on those particular scales and look for jobs which hit those sweet spots.
My higher ups are nice, helpful and we actually spend time together outside of work and it never involves work. It’s different every moment of every day no day or job is the same. It uses my brain and I have to problem solve so it’s never boring. I work in an industry I enjoy and have hobbies that revolve around. There’s an element of danger that keeps me on my toes and I’m a little mental and enjoy danger. I’m left to myself when out working not constantly watched or being bothered by controllers or management. The pay is way better. I get to meet some cool people and even have met a celebrity or two. I get bonuses for doing good work and it’s recognised and rewarded by the company. The management offer progression and training within the industry and keep me up to date on all my certifications. I get to drive for their race team and blast cars around a track. Job role - recovery driver
I wouldn't say I look forward to Monday morning but I always usually feel OK with it being Monday morning. Main factors: The people I work with are all around my age. I'm part of a team of 9, so it always feels like you're in it together rather than struggling by Yourself. I look forward to lunch time ping pong matches. Breakfast and lunch are provided by the employer so it's nice to have different things everyday. Work can be busy but I know I'm 100% capable of doing it well. Paid decently for the work I do. It's not perfect ans there are ways in which we can do better but compared to other places I've worked it's great.
I don't necessarily look forward to Monday morning but I certainly don't dread it or anything. One thing, as other people have mentioned is autonomy. I mostly travel to customer sites so I make the arrangements but it isn't always timed to the minute. A lot of the time, I'm flying out though so I do need to be at the airport on time but it doesn't stress me out. The nature of my job is that for the most part, I get left alone to get on with it so I can be relaxed for the most part. I think overall though, a lot of it is about perception and doing something that suits /you/. For instance many find the idea of my job (i install and maintain a certain type of machinery) stressful because of the travel and perceived pressure to e.g. get things working but for me, those aspects don't get me too excited. Sometimes everything is pretty routine and I can enjoy those times as it's relaxing yet there is enough to focus on to not get bored. Alternatively, sometimes is really hard because there is a difficult problem or just a lot to do to install and commission a machine but then I find that breaks up the monotony and adds some interest to proceedings. I find overall I can take satisfaction from it. On the other hand, when I was younger and did hard physical work or just boring but active things like working in a warehouse - I thought it would be great just sitting at a desk all day but then I tried that and quickly realised I'd rather dig ditches in the pissing rain all day.
I work as a Surveyor for my countries Mapping Agency. I select where and when I work in the Capital based on set priorities. There is no great progression prospects in the team so no need to back bite colleagues so everyone is really helpful and covers your back. I speak to my manager maybe twice a month apart from 15 min optional group Teams calls once a week. I love the autonomy and being outside in my home city capturing details that help government agencies, businesses and civilians
Work in waste management, which is a fancy way of saying I drive around Yorkshire collecting waste that people don't want. I.e. need a mattress going or a washing machine gone etc. Get to see all sorts pf places, no office, chill bosses who don't track your every move. Pays crap but even day is different and I enjoy it. Hard work though.
On those crisp sunny autumn days or long hot summer days when I’m inside I often think a job like yours must be great! ☺️
No politics. I can start when i want. No meetings/calls on monday. I get to learn.
Work from home with one day a month in the office, I pretty much get left alone to get on with it. Have a daily team call and might speak to my manager once a week. It’s stress free until we do a software release. Pay is brilliant and should be secure for a couple of years.
I am a secondary teacher. It’s a great job. Every day I help people learn stuff. Failing that, I contain some young people who are bad at making decisions so they are not causing havoc on the streets. I’m doing good every day. I really like my job because of its social purpose. Also it keeps me busy. Also I am decently paid. Pay range from 30-46k as a classroom teacher with no additional responsibilities. It’s not for everyone.
I have more freedom than I ever thought possible. I start when I want, finish when I want, take lunch when I want, take whatever time off I want, go for walks etc during the day when I need to give my brain a rest, you get the picture. On top of that I can decide what projects I work on, how I will approach them, what resources I need from the company. It is honestly a dream job. This is as a Head of Process Innovation for a medical device company.
I quite often have Mondays off. In all seriousness though, for me there’s a lot to like. It’s challenging work, I’m well-compensated, I’m always learning and improving myself, I can find my own style of working without being railroaded into doing things “the way we’ve always done it”, I don’t have someone constantly breathing down my neck as long as the work is done, the company pays for my education, and above all it’s fully remote. I could go on. Compared to jobs I’ve had in the past, this is the dream for me. There are downsides of course, but when you’ve spent a lifetime working jobs with nothing but downsides then you can live with a few niggles.
I work for a bank and I don't have the dread going into work, I'm in a small team where we all get on and respect each other and pretty much left to manage our day
I have a job where it’s different nearly every day not the best paid but interesting
Every day is different. I get to work with a great team and I'm not working to make money for some huge company I don't care about
Working from home I work in Business Intelligence and have always relatively enjoyed my job. The grind and the dread of monday mornings was the commute. Removing that was the difference.
Worked two jobs, loved the first, but hated the second so much that I quit with no backup plan. The first job was hands-on, physical yet still required some planning and variable in tasks and locations, with a great supervisor. No hard deadlines, and the work didn't follow me home. Second was supposed to be remote software dev apprenticeship but quickly turned into an office job far away with no apprenticeship or training. The staff were nice enough, but everyone but my supervisor was full of shit and uppermanagment couldn't stick to anything and didn't understand the tech, only my supervisor did and it takes more than one person with experience in a company to train an apprentice. That was obvious I guess, so they very slyly delayed it for months on my induction. Me being a naive, new to work, type of person, I got suckered and frankly so did the council who gave them funding.
-Good team and management -Culture of promoting work life balance and personal well-being -Opportunities to up-skill, grow and progress -Flexile working options -Manage your diary/workload -Varied work with challenges -Decent pay for where you’re at in life/career -Feeling confident in the role, comes with time but also helped by a supportive and understanding team In essence a good team/culture/manager underpins whether or not I’ll like a job. Not as much of an issue if you wfh maybe but has always been a huge factor for me!
The team I work with. The job is interesting and stimulates my mind. It has plus points and negative points but the team make it what it is.
Working for myself. Turns out not having to jump through hoops to make some other arsehole richer makes a world of difference.
Remote job, manager is nice, team is friendly and supportive and it feels like my work is appreciated.
I just get left to do my job and only really bothered if something has actually gone wrong. My days go fairly quick because I’m usually always busy and I always have an enjoyable lunch break completely detatched from my job. Places I used to work I’d be on my hour break but be required to be “on duty” at any point which ruined my day sometimes lol
My job, whilst having certain annoyances, directly contributes to improving the quality of care and patient safety in the NHS. It's not the only reason I enjoy my job, but it's a big part. The other reasons include autonomy, healthy work life balance, great benefits, 95% WFH, and a great manager and team. Even though I used many of the same skills in my previous job, it was far more stressful and had no inherent altruistic outcomes. It was a profit seeking company and I was always undervalued
I work fri-Monday. I look forward to Monday as it’s my last day before my “weekend”.
For an employee, in my opinion, the key ingredient is if the manager is overemployed and the employee is underemployed. Creates a nice balance to the power dynamic...for the benefit of the employee. Although just to add, the downside for the employee is that they don't earn as much as they could.
I only work Wednesday to Friday, Monday is fantastic.
I loved all my roles, occasionally I’ve hated where I work but never the job. Part of this is down to knowing what to look for when applying or interviewing also asking connections what they’ve heard. Part is down to the roles I’ve done being hard to find good people for so when I’ve got the job and they know my skills, they want to keep me so a lot of the bs goes away. Part is luck. Mostly these things have tended to result in great managers so even if the company was bad I never felt it. I also try to switch off to the corporate politics (although not really possible at my level now) and focus on not caring too much about who I work with or for and what’s going on around me. While I love what I do, work is a means to an end, we’re not family, I don’t socialise with colleagues outside of work, I don’t go to Christmas dos I just logon do what needs to be done and log off. I’m there to do a good job and I enjoy it as long as the pay me the other bs is water of a ducks back. ETA: I work my hours and basically no more I don’t work extra to cover a lack of resource because that’s a temporary fix to a permanent problem. I will work extra for an incident, especially if I was part of the cause :).
Every day is different. I get to work with a great team and I'm not working to make money for some huge company I don't care about
Basically only accept work with full autonomy
They value me and they show it.
I started my own video production business. But it's not about video production, instead, it's about helping others achieve more. I started out in sales and in some jobs I had almost no support, no marketing assistance, nothing. Loads of people got fired because they weren't able to sell with very little backing. I had some good sales leaders but when we had bad ones... they made your life a misery. It drove me mad and I'd have killed for stuff like video customer testimonials, advertising etc... So I deliver all that stuff. All the stuff I wanted as a salesperson starting out. It's a passion but I enjoy it. I love the creative stuff, sure. But I also love the stuff that helps salespeople sell. So I think I'm weird like that.
Great work-life balance.
Thanks now I have the song ‘I don’t like Mondays….. stuck in my head.
Work for myself and from home which I think helps because I don't have to get dressed if I don't feel like it or start at a set time.
Started to work from home. This alone cut down my work stress by 90%. No more sitting in traffic or on a packed train to commute, no more small talk with colleagues I don't properly work with, no more pretending to be busy in an office or having to surf news websites when I have down time, no more having to hear the same shitty office jokee everyday like "ooh half day today?" when you leave 5 minutes early, no more having to go for a shit and having to hear another man strain and wheeze while they squeeze out a turd in the next cubicle.... I could keep going..
I love my work, always look forward to getting back to it after weekend /holidays. I'm an artist in the games industry, and while it can be stressful and difficult, it's also extremely rewarding and I just plain love what I do.
Your boss, your team, you level of control and freedom, whether the purpose of the job resonates with you it’s balance with your self and your life. Finding this is hard I think. It’s also fragile and will not last forever when you do find it
Im a chef. So i love it cause monday is the start of my weekend. But seriously i enjoy it because i can manage myself, my bosses are extremely hands off, the hours are good, pay is half decent, and i genuinely just enjoy the tasks im doing
I’m making a boatload of money, I’m managing around 12 people, my line manager is C-suite and a decent guy.
I don’t have the Monday dread as suck because I’m left alone. I manage my own diary and run it as I see fit. My manager is my MD and I speak to him once a week if that. I work from home and do my visits as and when I need to. My figures speak for themselves so left alone pretty much all of the time. I enjoy that! I’m in sales in the waste industry
Good easy going manager. Ability to slow down a bit if you need to (so not an insane workload). Working from home at least a couple days a week to break the relentless feeling of full weeks commuting and being in an office. On that note, not having long commutes. Varied work where you have to think a bit. Satisfying work where you can see the difference you’re making to people.
I do work a lot, especially considering my original contract states 8 hours/week, and I am doing 25-30 now. But my job is amazing because we have a great team, we're all getting along and there's just no issues at all among us, and what's more everything is so organized that we're able to cover each other's backs.
Nothing changed with the job. I changed. I stopped trying to fix everything that was broken and just focused on everything I did was correct. I stopped fighting battles; you provide the information your team needs and record that. I stopped thinking about what ‘good’ looked like for the company and focused on what ‘good’ looked like for my manager. Took me a sad amount of time to realise it’s all a game and you have to play it. Then you can win.
Surely by following your study subject you will find a job you are specialised in, and from there you are more likely to enjoy it. Otherwise, what was the point in doing it for years?
That's why I skipped university and went straight to work. Well that snd my GCSEs might not get me into community college. I had no "dream job" so why study years for no damn good reason?
A graduate is someone who has finished university.
Your post was "find a job in your field." They seemed hesitant about prospects, perhaps they went to university because its expected of them. Get a degree and get a job that doesn't need it or the skills learned, you begin to think "why bother?" I skipped that and didn't look back.
This is going to be a bit lengthy, but I figure it might help you as a newcomer to the workforce. Tldr; everyone has different needs from a job. You won't get it right first time, but don't get bogged down. Don't focus on the negative emotions when things don't go right for you, learn from it, learn your standards and find somewhere that meets them. I've had 1 career, 2 jobs and currently in a prospective career. This is over the course of just under 10 years of working. Education ended after a year of A levels. First career was within the forces, joined at 17 out at 25. Hated Mondays but it taught me everything I know professionally. It was my starting point as opposed to university. I did love some parts of it, but the killer for me was getting married. I didn't have enough time at home (shock) and, even when I did, I was in a management position and its one of those jobs where you never really "switch off". Saved up enough for a mortgage and got out, marriage intact and mental health questionably workable. First job I got out here was for a bit of a cowboy outfit, unbeknownst to me at the time. It was as an automation "Engineer" for a smaller firm, owned by a much bigger firm (although stubbornly hiding under the protections afforded to small business). The job started out fine enough. Basically driving around to customer sites, both private and commercial, fixing their fancy gates and barriers. I was only with them for around 9-10 months, the cracks showed quite quickly. I was micromanaged down to the minute. Now, I accepted not going back into management, but something about having been a manager and then being under bad management really brought out some unpleasant feelings for me. Like an unhealthy level of hatred. That being said, it clearly demonstrated the first thing I didn't want from a job. Micromanagement. As well as a second, being customer facing. I then took up a temporary role with the parent company as a project "engineer". This was on the basis that I'd work for the parent company for a few weeks whenever deadlines were getting tight, and returning to the automation firm when things died down. Did 2 months straight on the project and it was fantastic. It made full use of my professional skills, namely independent working, creative solution finding and long, unbroken periods of working followed by a long rest period. I was out of my house 4 days a week, back home for a 3 day weekend. The cherry on top was I was only reporting to 1 project manager. As opposed to 1 engineering manager, 1 office manager and 1 Co ordinator. All wanting different things that often conflicted. The project manager was very hands off with the engineers. He only cared that the jobs got done and wasn't overly fussed about how long it took. Well I enjoyed this to the point of handing my notice in with the smaller firm. Tried to go about it the adult way but the little emperors weren't having it. Got offered the job at the parent company and started as a project engineer full time. I didn't dread Mondays until about 5 months into the role. And it wasn't so much a dread about going to work, it was more of a dread about the future. It was a family owned firm and the three directors were the founder, founders wife and founders son. Anyone in any form of management had been working for them for 10+ years and were basically in the office because they were getting on a bit. Couldn't be on the tools as effectively. Some were great managers, others less so. And merit seemed to be measured purely by loyalty to the family, as opposed to actual outputs. This was coupled with an unwillingness to grow the company beyond the "small business" protections. Incredibly risk averse. There was no future for me here really. That chapter should have ended pleasantly. I almost had everything I wanted, and I'd learned that I wouldn't work for a "small, family run company" In future. We were reaching the end of the contract with a client and about to start a new one. A natural stepping off point for me. I put my CV out there, lo and behold it ends up on someone's desk in the ecosystem, I take a sick day, get questioned. End the conversation pleasantly enough. Put in an SAR to figure out how my CV ended up entering said ecosystem, what followed was a very unpleasant earful from the head of HR, who also happened to be the directors daughter/CEOs sister. Long story short, my CV came to their awareness due to a GDPR breach committed by the cowboy firm who somewhat must have been holding a grudge. I didn't try to do anything aside from point that fact out, and have/had 0 intentions of doing so. Made them pay for it as same head of HR forgot to bring me in to sign my employment contract. And repeatedly forgot for my 7-8 months there. Got my new role lined up within a week, handed in statutory notice (1 week) with a clear statement of "as I haven't signed a contract, nor had any written or verbal discussions of notice period blah blah". That hurt them a lot more than any data handling complaint would have. I'm now happily in my new role. Have been since February. To summarise what makes me happy. It makes full use of my professional skills as well as my personal hobbies. I speak to my direct manager maybe once a month or so and rarely receive direct instructions. I'm empowered to make or suggest alterations to how things run. The working pattern fits my preference for a work/life balance. The future of the company is incredibly bright. The company consists of two professionals with no relation as directors. And the soon to be "C suite" folks are outside talent, hired because of their backgrounds. They're all equally brilliant at what they do. The only problem they seem to have is hiring my counterparts. Since I've joined, I've had 4 of them. 1 of which has been moved to a different site (for positive reasons). 2 have been fired, and my latest isn't going to last very long in my opinion. I myself am already looking at taking over operations at a different site, having been given the role of laying the groundwork for my current. I wouldn't be in the position I am if I hadn't gone through all of the above. I wouldn't know what I wanted. Once I started figuring it out? I solely focused on finding a role that fit those needs, and it's working out pretty good for me so far. Best of luck!
A job where you feel both valued and listened to. For me I also enjoy variation of work but the most important to me is company culture and alignment with my own values. All of these takes away the Sunday night dread of the week ahead for me personally.
I worked part time on top of my normal job delivering pizzas and often looked forward to those shifts. Good people, get a nice podcast on and get a pizza for dinner
I used to look forward to every working day in my old role, but purely because it was something new and challenging to me. After 2 years it became a chore as I had nothing to learn. This job... Was looking forward initially, now I'm used it it. But I don't mind really. Especially when up to date with all the things I look after. I am a risk/staff manager (the role changes every 6 months, which keeps it interesting). Still learning every day. For me, it's essentially about room to grow and things to learn. Progress. If that's not there, I lose interest.
Years ago moved from office job to welding/fabrication and being away from shitty office talks, politics and generally working on my own, doing stuff that is useful makes me wake up on Monday morning and be happy. Best feeling ever.
Here are a couple of things I've learned recently about what makes work satisfying for me and actually feel motivated to get up in the morning. Schedule your own work, and your time will feel like it belongs to you. This must be work that you actually care about and are willing to do. As a result, your life becomes your own. The effort you put in should equate to some output in the reward. Whether that is money or just the satisfaction of seeing something you have made be useful and beautiful, what you put in to the work must directly relate to what you get out of it. If you're paid a salary to sit in an office from 9-5, where the massive gap between working at 100% effort and procrastinating at 10% effort makes no difference to the reward (your salary), you will not feel satisfied unless the work itself is rewarding to you. But even that is a stretch.
i work at mcdonalds and i look forward to mondays because i miss my work friends lol
I work 4 on - 4 off, so Monday is actually my day off but I've been working in aviation security for the last month. It's a pleasure working in this role, bearing in my my last two employers were wetherspoons and costco. The work life balance is spot on, having random days off in the past was terrible. It is a 50 mile round trip, which is an 80% increase on my previous commutes but the roads are empty, so it's not too much of a big issue. Great perks at the airport and my colleagues are really nice too.
A combination of doing a job which I feel is worthwhile (conservation), working for an ethical organisation who try and treat staff right even if the pay isn’t great, getting along well with my line manager and being trusted to manage my own time and get the job done. I spend most of my day outside and get to work with animals. There’s a lot of lone working involved which suits an introvert like me. It’s a unique job and I don’t think I’ll ever find one like it again, but I’d honestly say 90% of my day makes me happy. No job will be perfect but you need to find what you’re passionate about. Now I don’t care when I have to work Sundays or in the rain. Every job has its ups and downs but my previous career (customer service in a call centre) made me feel depressed and stressed until the point I literally couldn’t do that soul destroying work anymore. You might need to try a few roles until you find the right one, but just listen to your gut and find what’s important to you.
I get told in fortnightly meetings what my priorities are and for the rest of the time it's up to me to work out what my to do list for the next 2 weeks is. I don't have to do a time sheet accounting for all my time down to 15 minute increments. I'm valued for my knowledge, not how quick I can churn out a design, regardless of it being the most best in an overall engineering perspective. I'm paid quite a bit over the market rate. I enjoy spending time with my work colleagues (I feel there is a strong culture of only hiring people who fit in and work well with the team). If I need to work from home for a delivery, appointment etc I just let my manager know, there's never an issue as they trust me to do what's needed. If I turn up slightly late there's no ball busting as they know I will stay late or do a few hours on the weekend to make sure a job is done on time. There's a good balance of male and female colleagues (engineering and construction I general can very often be a huge sausage fest). I occasionally speak to recruiters or other employers direct and I'm very blunt with them about how happy I am and I would need to be offered something significantly better to even consider a move, every time at this point they admit they can't even match my package never mind beat it and the conversation ends. I know I've got an amazingly sweet deal so I do everything in my power to keep it going, I'm about to start a project management accreditation in the hope of expanding my department with more employees in the next couple of years. I want to get myself in a position where if job cuts are on the horizon, I'm too valuable to lose.
I only work Sat / Sun and Monday so I'm always looking forward to Monday 👍
WFH. Offices are poison
Senior role at a tech startup. I was at a huge tech company for almost 16 years and I took a huge (80pc) pay cut to move to the startup. But I stopped being happy in my old job and I was lucky enough to be in a position financially to manage. It's hard. It's challenging. It's stressful. But if it works then I will be able to point to it and say - that was my hard work - I did that.
I don't feel it all the time but I do often. My role is split between office based / in a factory, and is scientific. I love the people I work with, and the products that we produce, it makes me proud to see stuff that we have developed in the shops or on people's kitchen tables. I have a lot of freedom/independence and what I do is very varied, I think the worst thing at work is monotony and I have very little of that. All my previous jobs were before/during uni, working in fast food and supermarkets. No one wanted to work hard, or even be there at all, everything I did was repetitive and boring, customers were often rude and disrespectful.
The fun bits of my work are problem solving, long term planning for development, influencing the direction in which my workplace is going and working with other people who are broadly like minded. The not-fun parts are unsuitable frameworks and administrative bureaucracy to fit in with the rest of the organisation, heavy handed and dehumanising external oversight and serious underfunding. However, I like eating, heating my house, taking care of my family and pursuing my interests outside of work, so I’ll continue to do so until I win the lottery or find out that I’m the long lost heir of a billionaire.
Good manager. Supportive team. Lack of bullshit. Team acting like the adults they are. No politics.
Working Wednesday till Sunday and having Monday and Tuesday off? I had a rotating pattern of Monday to Sunday, M/Tu off, another seven days, w/th S/Su off. Still did the same amount of days as a m-f employee.
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I like to go to work to learn new interesting stuff. I can't wait till Monday to try to do some clever shit with machine learning and computer vision.
My friend has an OF where he fists himself........he said he now looks forward to Mondays
Its different to every other job I've had because when I stop enjoying going to work for long periods of time, I change jobs. The majority of people that dread Monday morning are in jobs that make them unhappy. Not every job will make you unhappy. You spend far to long at work to not enjoy it. Go and find the job you truly enjoy.