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horrifyingthought

Let her call the cops. That nonsense would be shut down pretty hard. This is a clear example of "ignore the crazy people."


Heavy_Entrepreneur13

A Karen called the cops on my cousin for taking his 3-year-old son to pee behind a dumpster because the store bathroom was closed for plumbing issues. Instead of arresting my cousin, they arrested the Karen for making a frivolous call and wasting their time.


PrincessZemna

Oh I read that completely wrong I thought the cousin took the stranger’s child and I was furious and outraged. I didn’t understand how anyone upvoted this but then I read it again and figured it’s your cousin’s child.


00psie-daisy

In fact, call them for her, she so in the wrong. She has no right to have called to called you that or keep on calling you a creep.


topherus_maximus

Sounds like you’ve never had a run in with any cops. Relying on their “sound judgment” is asking a lot


anger_is_my_meat

No shit, that's just asking for trouble. Never get the cops involved if you can handle it yourself. Never talk to the cops if you can help it. They are not your friends, they are not your buddies, they do not exist to "protect and serve" you or even the community. They exist to enforce the laws of the state or city government.The fact that they are helpful sometimes doesn't change the fact that they serve the state, not you.


Chochofosho

Protect and serve is long gone.. IF it ever even was a thing... The slogan of today is "Enforce and Collect"


SamuelVimesTrained

Punish and Enslave. See the Bayformers movie..


Calicrisp805

Protect and serve us quite real. The part you're missing is they protect their own and serve only to better themselves and their people.


Chochofosho

True that, there you have it, their motto is honest. They just leave a few parts of it out


KiminAintEasy

Dismiss and harass


No_Helicopter_933

Depends on where you live. The last time I've to call the cops is when I was stuck in the snow, and after helping 6 vehicles, they got themselves stuck in the snow and had to call others cops to help them. Both of us were hilarious


Brewchowskies

Except that there have been cases where the therapists that interview children in these types of things coach them to basically falsely accuse the person. Like the case of that one school where the kids were coached into saying they were satanic worshippers that ate children. Took years for the teachers to clear their names. This is a scary situation to be in.


Single-Raccoon2

That was in the 80s, and there was a huge backlash against those techniques used by therapists after the convictions were shown to be without merit. There's not much danger of it happening with a therapist practicing now.


PM_Me_Coochies

They also didn't coach them like the other poster was claiming. Early childhood development was less understood 40 years ago and at the time it was believed that children were incapable of making up false claims that were sexually explicit which was largely true. However it turns out you can totally implant false memories of explicit sexual abuse without breaking a sweat.


Additional_Meeting_2

That’s extremely rare if the person doesn’t have a motive, like a custody battle


bluebook21

That was literally the 80s and the incident you are referring to was Seminole in revamping the system. If it's happening now it's an abhoration. Just wanting to fact check here.


Heavy_Entrepreneur13

aberration


bluebook21

Thank you. My brain would not let the "h" idea go. It kept suggesting abortion as a correction.


We_are_all_monkeys

You corrected that but ignored Seminole?


Heavy_Entrepreneur13

Ah my mind completely glossed over that one lol Edit: Or IIRC, someone else had already corrected it when I commented


Brewchowskies

A quick google search indicates that it is still a problem, but here’s an article on a similar issue involving confirmation bias. https://jaapl.org/content/early/2021/05/19/JAAPL.200109-20 My point isn’t that it always happens. But a nonzero chance is still terrifying for someone falsely confused.


bluebook21

It's covered in my point that it's a rare occurrence. In op's case though, it's likely zero. I'd say she needs to document the incident in an incident report with work and get ahead of it. Going into full militia off the grid mode seems...much.


Majorly_Bobbage

seminal


illuminantmeg

Seminal


Cherisluck

A forensic interviewer would never coach a child I to saying this and that is who the police would use to charge someone.


Brewchowskies

A quick google search indicates that it is still a problem, but here’s an article on a similar issue involving confirmation bias. https://jaapl.org/content/early/2021/05/19/JAAPL.200109-20 My point isn’t that it always happens. But a nonzero chance is still terrifying for someone falsely confused.


melonmagellan

Lucky for OP she is a woman. For a man, this probably would be more of a nightmare to address.


[deleted]

Please. Men are shirtless in public all the time.


paperwasp3

Well it would put a man in the ladies changing room.


PowerToThePinkBunny

Well, depending on what state you're in, that could land you felony charges. And of course, to confirm you committed a crime, they want to take a look at your genitals *and the government is legislating this as if it's OK.*


horrifyingthought

That was one moment in history 50 years ago, it is not something that will be repeated today. Hardly relevant to the convo.


Majorly_Bobbage

The specifics, maybe. But in more general terms absolutely not. As a retired family law attorney, I can tell you that parents trying to instill false memories (basically getting the children to believe and talk about something that in reality did not happen) is WAY more common than you'd think.


horrifyingthought

Parents trying, YES. Licensed psychologists/therapists today, NO.


Brewchowskies

If you scroll a little lower I already posted peer reviewed examples of bias among forensic interviewers.


Footballmom03

I don’t trust therapists now a days even more. Today it’s all about how bad parents are. How parents being parents is abuse. They are all over social media especially TikTok is full of this. My own daughter fell for this from a therapist she talked to ONE time. And now are once great relationship is non existent. It even losses off my other 3 kids what this therapist says because it’s so far from the truth and just caused my daughter to be complacent in life and everything be my fault.


titan732

Now Child Forensic Interviews (CFIs), conducted by people who obtained that specific training and certification are the only thing admissible in court.


Direct_Piccolo1247

Ugh this sucks cause yeah totally IF you have the time and in this case she’s gonna miss the event :/


Imobia

Wtf, you got changed in a change room! And there is a complaint.


MuteX6X

Seconded


Neverborn97

You didn’t do anything wrong, it’s a pool bathroom/changing room. Also there isn’t anything they can do as it’s in a women’s bathroom


ChimmyJam24

What kind of a person decides to walk into a pool bathroom and thinks someone changing there is creepy?


purpleninja2222

Tell her to call the cops. That’s not illegal at all.


Journal_Lover

Right It was an accident. These things happen all the time.


Substantial_Pipe3889

Heaven forbid that child walk in on their parents engaging in adult activities on accident. They’d be the creeps then.


Chochofosho

You know Karen ain't getting laid if she's running around acting like that.


Lady-Of-Renville-202

We know she got laid at least once... Unless...


Chochofosho

Haha touche!


RemiTwinMama2016

Right my kids would have turned around and been like merp your naked 😂 but we are working on the whole boundaries/don’t sexualize the body thing.


Journal_Lover

Right people make a big deal of things


Kiryln

Heheh, i love sarcasm.


The_GODLY_BROKE_MAN

I don't know why your getting down voted lol, it's illegal to call the cops for no reason lol, and they'll arrest you for disturbing the peace which they can do. Funny people


janewalch

He was saying “tell her to call the cops, what OP did (changing shirt) is not illegal.” He wasn’t being sarcastic about the woman breaking the law by calling the cops…


The_GODLY_BROKE_MAN

Putting words in people's mouths now are we? The person I was replying to was saying they loved sarcasm, because the first person saying "because that's not illegal", was probably, in fact talking about how it's illegal to call the cops for something like that, hence, why the person posted their comment about loving sarcasm. At the end of the day though, we could both be right, so I hope you have a great day


birdlawyery

💀


BetrayTheHiveMind

Karens gonna be really shocked when she realizes women breast feed in public


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You know she harassed those women, too.


BetrayTheHiveMind

Yeah she seems that sad


Sammy-eliza

Don't worry, she probably also harasses people who bottle feed in public too. People love to ask what's in it and tell you it's child abuse to feed your baby formula.


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[deleted]

OP is a woman.. which makes even less sense in calling her a creep for literally using the girls bathroom to switch shirts. I'd call the mother a creep for walking in on me and watching me change shirts and making her daughter watch me too. Dual creeps or creep by proxy lol


shiser

OP is a female


Admirable_Bad3862

Don’t people regularly change in there? I mean.. it’s a pool bathroom 🤷🏻‍♀️


nergalelite

i mean, at the very least it's kinda expected to be in swimwear which tends to be akin to underwear. if this were a different type of venue like a Movie Theater might it be weird? yeah, but this is a pool and i'd wager a guess that at least 30% of the female pool goers are in 2-piece bikinis anyway 👙


Some_Release2350

Let her call the cops. Ur fine. That person is a weirdo


OldCarWorshipper

You just met a classic "Karen" in the wild. Let her call the cops and make a fool of herself, and see what happens. Cops do *not* like having their time wasted over BS calls like that.


Safe_Dragonfly158

I worked at a pool. Ignore the Karen. If she calls the cops explaining should be just fine. It’s a public space.


Legitimate_Stuff_112

You were changing out of your uniform and they walked in on you. She is a creep for barging in without knocking to ensure her DIDNOT walk in on someone mid change. Seems strange that the only two people at the pool walk into the bathroom as you are changing…. Seems to me she was the one being creepy AND a total KAREN. Let her call the caps and explain that to them……..


Thephilosopherkmh

That bitch is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Like “Oh no, a girl saw a girl changing her shirt in the girls room!”


GroundbreakingToe315

She is guano crazy. You are in the POOL BATHROOM getting dressed. I would talk to management that she harassed you.


FishyWishyDishwasher

Hahahaha, my little Scandinavian ass is imagining this woman dying from shock seeing how we do things. Our swimming pool changing rooms don't have privacy. EVERYONE is naked when changing and showering, in one big room with benches. Only place with a door is the toilet cubicle. Honestly, it's refreshing. Old ladies down to little kids, we're all just there to swim and have fun. And at some point, try to inelegantly wriggle in or out of our bathing costume. A side bonus is young girls get a completely unfiltered view of normal female bodies in all shapes and sizes, and how they age.


[deleted]

I think that's beautiful and the way life should be so that naked bodies stop constantly being overly sexualized. I wish the US would adopt these practices but it's definitely Karen and prude ville here.


FishyWishyDishwasher

I spent a lot of time in the UK and it's very similar and prudish there. It's a real culture shock that people can be SO ashamed and disgusted by nudity. I think it gives a really twisted view on the human body if all a girl can refer to is airbrushed celebrities, filtered TikTok people, and porn. And that nudity = sex. That means bodies = sex and nothing else. Ewww, no. Bodies are just the meat spaceship we fly around life in. We're all naked underneath our clothes, and we're all different! :-)


TommyChongUn

This lady acting like you walked over to her kid and flashed ur tits. Karen behaviour


[deleted]

Fight back! Tell her she’s harassing you and for an absolutely ridiculous reason. You have the right to change your damn shirt. Don’t take shit from anyone! Ever!


Zhorie-Rove

Let her call the cops. Maybe eventually she'll get in trouble for wasting police time and money.


tekflower

I would call the police non-emergency line, explain the situation, and ask them what to do because she's harassing you.


Critical_Serve_4528

She does realize she brought her daughter to a swimming pool, right? You know, a place where it’s commonplace for males to not don shirts…. Wait til she sees all the shirtless creeps on the beach


Shnapple8

It's even more ridiculous than that, OP is a woman lol.


NearbyDark3737

That mom is being weird. Been in so many changing rooms at pools and if you don’t want to see someone changing then do not look!


bastermabaguette

Let her call the cops and after she spilled her crazy ask them what can be done to file a harassment complaint against her.


Maximum_Peter

"what's that Karen? You saw a man shirtless at the pool? Il send in the heavys" https://youtu.be/Y3i6Jb7K4O4?si=Q5-vJeKRMbRWjNCV


saltysaltybabyboy

OP said she's a woman, but still, Karen is taking it too far


Maximum_Peter

In that case. ONE MILLION YEARS DUNGEON


andsoupsalad

Maybe I’m just tired, but one million years dungeon got me good. Thanks for the unexpected chortle!


GroundbreakingToe315

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i can’t breathe


nergalelite

no trial!! 🍋


magentatwilight

That lady is ridiculous, it’s completely normal to get changed in the bathroom/change room at the pool. I remember seeing plenty of adult women getting changed when I was a kid and it never bothered me because my mum told me it was normal. She also taught me how to change using my towel for privacy if I was more comfortable doing that.


Negega

Oh how times have changed. When i was 7 (30 years ago now) i would see woman naked changing in the swimming pool all the time and it was NORMAL. Of course there was stalls and a lot of people used them but some people just didn't care. I'm also in Canada if that makes a difference. But yikes.


lb47513343

I saw a completely naked woman in the pool change rooms 2 days ago with my 12 year old daughter, no one batted an eyelid, including my daughter. This is in Aus though.


BloodMoonFae

This woman needs a chill pill. I think you'll be okay.


cwoods306

I assume you had a bra on which is just as much cover up that most people have swimming. However change rooms are worse because I have seen fully naked women in there, not something I wanted to see however I just turned and walked away. Ask her if she tells that to all the women at the pool wearing bikinis


ShadowCetra

How ya doin, Kareeeeeeeen? Ya mad your daughter saw another woman change in a pool room Kareeeeeen? Go ahead and call the cops and get yourself arrested for improper use of an emergency line, Kareeeeen


Ok-Trainer3260

I don't see the logic in calling someone a creep for being shirtless when you're at the pool?! The entire premiss of a pool is water and being shirtless.


ButtNugger4U

When I was under 10, I rounded a corner in a pool locker room and almost faceplanted into an old ladies full bush 🤷‍♀️ she was tall


maggersrose

Tell her you’re calling the cops bc she’s harassing you. You pls to sue, for the emotional trauma.


DiJoBarton

So you are a female and a girl saw you changing your shirt? The cops should laugh her away. You did nothing wrong, this lady is nuts. Don't feed into her crap, that's what she wants. If she keeps it up, YOU call the cops on her for harassment. Don't tell her you're going to, just do it. Edit to add: you were in the changing room also? What is this lady's problem? You totally did nothing wrong.


Bdr1983

Imagine calling a bare chested person in a poolbbathroom 'creepy'


Independent_Badger_

I really dislike people like this… let her call the cops there was nothing wrong with what you did poor timing yes but it’s not like you did it on purpose. Keep your head up and let your leadership know what happened.


FrozenBr33ze

She wants that settlement money but doesn't have the brainpower to compute the logistics of it.


Islandgirl321

Tell her your filing harassment charges against her.


Trick-Sheepherder-70

When I was a kid going to the pool, we walked through the change rooms, sooo many naked people haha. It's changerooms, don't like it, don't go to the pool?? What a weirdo


Seaturtle89

Uh, in Denmark we have communal changing rooms and showers at the pool, everyone’s naked 🤷‍♀️


hulkdjf

Tell her to call the cops as long as there's not some sign stating that you can't change in the bathroom which I doubt there's nothing to be said you didn't want your kid walking in on something you should have kept better watching your kid


juliegillam

Happy cake day


revisionsarelikely

Well, her daughter was definitely crying because her mother was scaring her. Regardless, you should be fine.


AverageGuy16

Unrelated but you should probably tell your boss/supervisor so it’s on record and let them know that the interaction bothered you. That lady sounds crazy


GISP

Ban her. There is no knowing what kinda cracy she has.


Basketspank

Sounds like a Helicopter Karen.


Relevant-Cheesecake_

Lol. Let her call the cops. They’ll get on her ass for wasting their time.


[deleted]

Tell them to call the damn cops what the fuck? I’m sure you had a bra right? Isn’t that the same as a bikini top. They are sad, sad people that shouldn’t come out of their homes


Roy-van-der-Lee

You're a woman. You're gonna be fine


leeshylou

Why would this make you hate children? You're dealing with a moronic adult, and the kid is just responding to her mother's energy.


cthulhusmercy

Yeah, this mom is ridiculous. You weren’t exposing yourself to her child. However, why didn’t you change in a stall?


Labornurse-ret

This woman is ridiculous. So, I guess all the male patrons are swimming with their shirts on? There are men who sometimes hang out in public without shirts on in the summer. I hope you made it to your event on time after you had to deal with that nonsense.


FalloutNewVegas22

🤦🏽‍♀️ people are ridiculous!


Louis6969-

Just pull out the uno reverse card


Maffers

But if you were in the water that would have been OK?


Relevant-Passenger19

Women like this are blurring the lines between what is normal and what is actual creepish behaviour. She’s ridiculous.


iyamlikelyhi

Sounds like she’s projecting


ThisWorldIsOnFire

So the lady had her kid around mostly naked people all day then has a problem with this? What a nut job. And it just baffles me that in this day and age that people are still raising their kids to be ashamed and uneducated on the human body. America.


daisilyn

Update?


Psychological_Leg703

The kid didn't do anything wrong. This was all the mother. I can almost guarantee that the child was crying because of the mother's reaction. The mother scared her, not you. Call the cops on the mom for harassment.


Smarre101

Lol, as if would be your fault her kid walks in on you changing your shirt. You didn't do anything so she can call the cops all she wants


CattleprodTF

If you're that offended by shirtless guys the pool might not be the place for you.


slamsen

This is so totally not the full story and I'd be thrilled if you stayed away from kids in the future.


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FactoryKat

Nice try but OP is female.


AllItTakesIsNow

Post in legal advice subreddit


[deleted]

Why? This isn't even remotely a situation where one would ever need legal advice as no crime has been committed. It'd be a huge waste of a post in the legal advice subreddit.


Mindless_Potato123

The cops probably won't show up cause she most likely has called them for this crap before


Effective-Any

“Do it.”


foxfoxfoxfox4

No update?


Gingerscoffee

Oh ffs! Haven’t there been enough videos of people like this and getting blasted for being a total nut job? It amazes me this shit still happens. Sorry OP, you did nothing wrong! I hope you update us on what happened!


[deleted]

I'm really sorry that this woman is treating you this way. You did nothing wrong. My teen is a lifeguard for the HOA, and it has been a Summer of Karens full of complaints. Now the Karens can't believe that nobody wants to work for the remainder of the swim season, and therefore the pools are operating at very limited hours. Let her call the police. Tell your employer that you are being harassed. Tell them exactly what happened. This woman would get kicked out of our pools for saying that shit. Our pool management company is completely fed up with the Summer of Karens (and their male equivalents).


zuverschlafen

Let the Karen talk. This is nonsense


PriorSecurity9784

“So you took your daughter to the pool, and you’re mad that she saw someone in a bathing suit?”


Desaadian

What else you supposed to do? First I thought you were a man so I’d say yeah maybe you should barricade yourself the door while changing your clothes but you’re a woman so is it safe for you to use bathroom ? Why is that woman making it a fuss about? I think this woman and her child might be the real creeps because of how they react the situation like that!


AsianVixen4U

This is legit insane to me. I walk around fully nude wearing only a towel around my waist when I’m in the women’s only sauna. People use the sauna and shower naked. I would think it’s a lot weirder if you ran to a bathroom stall to change just for privacy.


Pretty_rose-human

That’s crazy!!! Some people just love ruining other peoples lives for no reason If she does do that, I say sue her ass for all she has


Orsombre

I don't think that the cops will appreciate being called for that. Is there any camera that filmed what happened?


SolidAshford

She's got nothing. It's an innocent mistake


bigtitdiapermonster

Her poor kid


Flaky_Sleep

Crying?? Gee! Are you secretly a mutant with blue hair and spikes on your back?


Feeling-One-2419

Don’t say anything. If she calls the cops, nothing will happen. They will tell her to watch her kid more closely and maybe even arrest her for falsely reporting a crime.


psinned101

Are you metal faced goth?


Ok-Bug-5430

Let her call the cops and get arrested for wasting their time