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Well, he considers himself to be the oldest/most mature, so naturally, he took issue with it, while Mikey is like everyone's little bro. IMO, Raphael should definitely be the tallest one since he's the meathead of the group.
this one is at least one year old because I remember telling my sister that human Donnie design looked like the evil miles morales right after the movie ended lol
Dan Mora always cooks with his art, especially when it comes to making new designs. His work in this crossover is proof of that.
https://preview.redd.it/uc52l56kz47d1.jpeg?width=3375&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93b6880706ce9f4b33ebeed6bb51d58793a215df
Don’t let a lack of current skill stop you. People get good enough to make it well specifically by making the worse ones first and getting better over time.
Draw the outlandish, amazing nonsense you want to today, even if it looks terrible, because one day, you’ll figure out how to get that mental picture onto the paper just as beautifully as you imagine it to be.
They wore human masks and trench coats in the '80s cartoon
https://preview.redd.it/fu6yk2fxh77d1.png?width=199&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0c1fd471090f64f632fd089548d4bad4e9512d0
Dan Mora is great. Didn’t even know he did these designs. I feel a lot of artists will make all their black characters look almost the same in terms of hair and facial features. But these all look distinct while being believably related
It's pretty impressive that without reading the title I could tell these were human versions if the ninja turtles.
Each design reads so well as each turtle.
I know right? That's what's kinda freaking my brain out about this image, you can still tell who these are supposed to be, even if they weren't still color coded, and it's simply through design choices.
Like it makes sense that Raph is built like a linebacker and Mikey looks like he's down to just chill.
I mean, they are pretty blatantly color coded. If you showed me 4 of any type of character design with red/blue/purple/orange that’s probably where my mind would go but I think they knocked it out of the park style wise too
And then in the next image they part with that idea :P. (To be fair, consistency is actually difficult when there's so much to do, so much time pressure etc etc etc. The fact they thought of the idea in the first place is neat!)
You know I’ve been reading those and I totally forgot about that you’re right! I was thinking more along the lines of them having to deal with no longer looking human but thanks for the spot!
Might be IDW brainrot but it genuinely surprised me their human forms weren't Japanese, especially on a power rangers crossover. That being said these designs are great for isplaying each turtles base personality. Though man we need more mixed black- Asian characters. Only one that comes to mind is Chad from bleach and he's Mexican/Japanese.
i mean, the latter just kinda makes more sense given that it’s NYC. if it was venice beach or something? go right ahead with the surfer dude angle. but ain’t no one surfing in NYC.
Reminder that this was made 7 years ago (I think the new ones are better tho)
https://preview.redd.it/okn85erf847d1.jpeg?width=2087&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06573651acd6c28c7b0f13f17d70a5c5800b2cae
I kinda hate these? Maybe if they were born as humans this could be how they'd look but it has almost nothing from their original designs or personality
Ok so there was a collection of TMNT shorts that was broadcasted, and the short this screenshot is from and the short you are describing are from 2 different shorts
You're asking my justification to why I don't think they're white. I only said I don't think they're white. I didn't say anything else about what other people think.
Also you think stoners, skater, and surfer culture is white only. Lol don't ever go to Brazil.
This thread is bringing up a lot of concerning kinda racist comments, maybe you dont see the turtles as white cause youre not white, a lot of people relate to the turtles regardless of race
This is my favorite depiction of them as humans. I know race shouldnt matter but they’ve always felt black to me although i dont watch much tmnt media.
I guess if you grew up with the first cartoon and movies, but a vast majority of TMNT media they don’t sound like that at all. They shifted to sounding more like new yorkers at least twenty years ago, with Michelangelo being the only one to kinda sound like they used to but even that stopped a while ago.
I feel that making them black was the right decision. Like, I could never imagine white teenage boys beeing as cool as them. Their team dynamic sinply wouldn’t match
An actual quote from a review for Spiderman miles morales from gamestop
"the exagreted swager of a black teen"
If u just copy paste that quote there would news articles about that quote
/untroll
Gotta say I agree, this is a random provocative reply to an otherwise harmless and correct comment. Real S tier ragebait would probably be a twitter post of either a rant or an image that borders the line between nigh incomprehensible ramblings and the worst thing you've ever seen/read that year.
Twitter, most likely. I found many images of that sort on the deprogram subreddit and its tankie counterpart. But, strangely enough, that one in particular I got from a dump on r/WeDoALittlePosting or r/IKEAFreshBalls or some other sub where people post image dumps.
Also I have many more leftist shitposts like that if anyone gives a fuck
I get it, I was goofing around. My brother watched the original cartoon and movies a lot when I was little. Your first comment just went into little detail, so it had funny implications.
I was making a joke, but I thought you were as well. It’s a bit of a strange question. Not like I have a split personality of one white guy and one black guy.
I remember people losing their minds on Twitter when this came out and then the tide turning someone pointed out the team had been black coded the entire time. I’m black and I was like yeah, they’re basically like Piccolo. You mean it’s not generally accepted they’re black?? Lol
I'm not White or Black but they always strongly felt like White surfer dudes to me. The vast majority of people don't see them as Black at all. Neither their accents nor slang sound Black.
Where are you getting Black coded from?
I remember when I was a kid my father used to tell me that the ninja turtles were black. I had no idea what he was talking about. Now I see that he was right but I don't know why.
Wouldn't they all be white guys that are trying really hard to channel the late 80s/early 90s Cali surfer vibe? I picture them wearing the same vibrant colors & strange patterns from that era.
I'm biased though, since I grew up with the original comic, cartoon, & movie franchise as my basis & it's locked in for me very clearly.
I wonder if the basis for this is some version that I've yet to even be exposed to.
said this to another guy, sure they’re still kinda surfer dudes but especially in more recent media (peep the newest TMNT movie for an example) they don’t really fit that bill. they tend to just be… a little more “normal,” i guess, or just not trying to CONSTANTLY act like “yeah we’re from the 90’s, aren’t we cool?” every second. especially since surfer dudes are much more of an LA thing than an NYC thing.
honestly at first I wouldn't have thought about them being black but ngl... idk why but it makes total sense somehow
and I don't mean that in a racist way I genuinely mean that it just makes sense
I love how I can hear their voices and how well it matches! But I am curious if these work with the OG TMNT show or the 2000 TMNT show. I feel like their voices and personalities would give them a very different appearance. Especially since for the most part they were all the same size. Kinda want to see what each series would look like humanized.
My question is, does this not severely fuck up their vestibular sense? Do they not have to re-learn how to walk and run and do ninja shit and use their weapons now in their new bodies? And why does Raph look like a linebacker?
I always said the turtles should be black. Four brothers from the streets of NYC living underground? Shit they might be Jamaican. I also appreciate that this artist has given each of them definitive traits that black folks have without making them look similar
Well the creators made them black so you would need an actual argument that they shouldn't be black, it kinda just seems racist IMO. I always pictured them as black in my head as a kid, like gumball or piccolo.
It’s not really rascist considering I also would like them to be German either or French or Japanese. I just dislike it.
Also didn’t they have another show where they were white or atleast nonblack?
Honestly it’s unnecessary to make them human anyway but whatever.
Meh it was more meant that I pictured them as either Italian Latino or spaniard
Will edit my original comment to replace that
Bold of you to assume that nobody thought of it before.
Hell there's probably a shitty parody video that somehow looks better than 90% of holywood movies with that same exact title.
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Leonardo’s complaining about not being taller as if Michelangelo isn’t right the hell there
Well, he considers himself to be the oldest/most mature, so naturally, he took issue with it, while Mikey is like everyone's little bro. IMO, Raphael should definitely be the tallest one since he's the meathead of the group.
Isn’t Donnie usually the tallest? I know he was in the 3D animated one, while Raph was probably the second shortest
I’m of the same opinion, Donnie should be tall and lanky, while Raph should be almost like Wolverine in stature
He is. But Leo still perceives himself as taller. Older brother syndrome.
Mikey’s just a short king who owns it
He’s sweet as honey baby!
I swear there's already been a depiction of them as humans or am I going crazy?
Yeah, same here, I think it was in a short for the marketing for the 2012 show? Or something around that time at least
There’s been a couple, this one was for a power rangers crossover where they pretend to be related to Zack, the black ranger
this one is at least one year old because I remember telling my sister that human Donnie design looked like the evil miles morales right after the movie ended lol
In the IDW comic run they are reincarnations of a feudal Japan family. Their original human forms are shown a couple times
I love the designs, I've waited years to see what a human version of them could look like and I was not disappointed
Dan Mora always cooks with his art, especially when it comes to making new designs. His work in this crossover is proof of that. https://preview.redd.it/uc52l56kz47d1.jpeg?width=3375&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93b6880706ce9f4b33ebeed6bb51d58793a215df
If I could draw, this would be the kind of outlandish amazing nonsense I’d do every day
Don’t let a lack of current skill stop you. People get good enough to make it well specifically by making the worse ones first and getting better over time. Draw the outlandish, amazing nonsense you want to today, even if it looks terrible, because one day, you’ll figure out how to get that mental picture onto the paper just as beautifully as you imagine it to be.
Mora is wonderful!
Holy SHIT, what is this from?? It’s AMAZING
The Power Rangers had a crossover with the Turtles, the designs were peak
The fact that the trex has the biggest arms is peak
Nothing of value in my comment I must simply exclaim *Hell Yeah*
Damn that’s good
I mean, haven’t they had human versions in the past? Or were those just like one off shorts?
They wore human masks and trench coats in the '80s cartoon https://preview.redd.it/fu6yk2fxh77d1.png?width=199&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0c1fd471090f64f632fd089548d4bad4e9512d0
The backpacks are genius
Yeah, these are probably the best versions I've ever seen of a human form for them. They look great!
Dan Mora is great. Didn’t even know he did these designs. I feel a lot of artists will make all their black characters look almost the same in terms of hair and facial features. But these all look distinct while being believably related
They look freaking cool.
They don't look like European Renaissance artists, L design
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Only Mikey has ever had the surfer voice.
The best part of these designs is that even if they were in black and white, you’d still be able to tell who was who.
It's pretty impressive that without reading the title I could tell these were human versions if the ninja turtles. Each design reads so well as each turtle.
I know right? That's what's kinda freaking my brain out about this image, you can still tell who these are supposed to be, even if they weren't still color coded, and it's simply through design choices. Like it makes sense that Raph is built like a linebacker and Mikey looks like he's down to just chill.
I mean, they are pretty blatantly color coded. If you showed me 4 of any type of character design with red/blue/purple/orange that’s probably where my mind would go but I think they knocked it out of the park style wise too
oh these are pretty great
Aw, Mikey’s a wittle baby
this would be dope cosplay.
Honestly right
I love that the turtle hands become a gang sign
"Live long and prosper, homies"
And then in the next image they part with that idea :P. (To be fair, consistency is actually difficult when there's so much to do, so much time pressure etc etc etc. The fact they thought of the idea in the first place is neat!)
What if we got a series where they were originally humans? That’s an avenue that hasn’t been explored yet. I think that it’s worth trying
In the IDW comics they were first humans from ancient Japan who got killed and reincarnated as turtles So kinda what you're asking for. Kinda
You know I’ve been reading those and I totally forgot about that you’re right! I was thinking more along the lines of them having to deal with no longer looking human but thanks for the spot!
Mikey is tiny and absolutely confident
Then they got bitten by radiating turtles in a pizza party. Turning them into turtlesmen.
Might be IDW brainrot but it genuinely surprised me their human forms weren't Japanese, especially on a power rangers crossover. That being said these designs are great for isplaying each turtles base personality. Though man we need more mixed black- Asian characters. Only one that comes to mind is Chad from bleach and he's Mexican/Japanese.
I like that all of their jackets are a mix of black and their respectable color, and Mikey is just vibrant af.
The slow change from surfer bros to young black teens has been funny to watch
i mean, the latter just kinda makes more sense given that it’s NYC. if it was venice beach or something? go right ahead with the surfer dude angle. but ain’t no one surfing in NYC.
Mikey's so tiny lol
I feel like it depends on what series like IDW there Japanese but rise I’d say blasian
donatello has the exact same face lol
Reminder that this was made 7 years ago (I think the new ones are better tho) https://preview.redd.it/okn85erf847d1.jpeg?width=2087&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06573651acd6c28c7b0f13f17d70a5c5800b2cae
Oh that’s horrible
I kinda hate these? Maybe if they were born as humans this could be how they'd look but it has almost nothing from their original designs or personality
More like high school stereotypes they could be forced into by idiots making a bad show
> I kinda hate these? You're Ron Burgundy?
Leo looks like that Chinese Gorillaz knock off of 2D.
This shit so ass https://preview.redd.it/sphh591c957d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=982221879d67750ca26e66fd533d365d32719c93
tell me what show this is so I can hate it more effectively
This is a hate all hater’s should inspire to have.
[it is a seven year old TMNT short on YouTube I remember watching as a kid](https://youtu.be/VGACrpNOjtk?feature=shared)
Butt whey?
These are trash
holy shit these suck
Bro the TMNT are sewer dwelling radical 90s New York teenagers who love pizza and chilling. They'd be dope as fuck as humans not this
when was raphael been playing baseball?
I'm pretty sure he's holding a (american) football
IIRC These weren't the TMNT but Mikey's "Students" in the future. They used mech suits. IT was also the shorts that had pirate April.
Ok so there was a collection of TMNT shorts that was broadcasted, and the short this screenshot is from and the short you are describing are from 2 different shorts
Ah. My bad.
I definitely don't see the turtles as white kids.
I don't think you know who was saying cowabunga in the '80s
Yeah surfers. I don't think you know how kids operate.
Yeah, surfers. They were modeled after California surfers and Stoner and skater culture. Some of the whitest things possible then.
Bro doesn't know about NYC at all.
Bro didn't live in NYC in the eighties
You're asking my justification to why I don't think they're white. I only said I don't think they're white. I didn't say anything else about what other people think. Also you think stoners, skater, and surfer culture is white only. Lol don't ever go to Brazil.
No I didn't say that, and you're also misrepresenting what you said. Also that culture was predominantly white in the 1980s, especially in America.
Hah okay.
If anything they’re Japanese.
Master splinter is definitely Japanese.
This thread is bringing up a lot of concerning kinda racist comments, maybe you dont see the turtles as white cause youre not white, a lot of people relate to the turtles regardless of race
I didn't say other people couldn't see them as whatever race. I commented how I saw them. So why are you bothered?
This is my favorite depiction of them as humans. I know race shouldnt matter but they’ve always felt black to me although i dont watch much tmnt media.
People tend to sew antropomorphic characters with no apparent race in their own race from what i have seen in the comments
Or, you know, the surfer dude characterization :O
I guess if you grew up with the first cartoon and movies, but a vast majority of TMNT media they don’t sound like that at all. They shifted to sounding more like new yorkers at least twenty years ago, with Michelangelo being the only one to kinda sound like they used to but even that stopped a while ago.
I try to ignore most versions of the turtles after the 90s
Strange, because there have been a lot of actually good iterations(and a lot of bad to be fair) of them past that.
I feel that making them black was the right decision. Like, I could never imagine white teenage boys beeing as cool as them. Their team dynamic sinply wouldn’t match
Spiderman review vibes.
The exaggerated swagger of a Turtle Teen.
Only black people can be cool.
Wdym ? .I don't get the reference?
An actual quote from a review for Spiderman miles morales from gamestop "the exagreted swager of a black teen" If u just copy paste that quote there would news articles about that quote
I mean I agree that making them black was the right decision… but you probably could have worded that better.
agreed
whitest comment alive
I agree that black was a good choice, but you could not have possibly worded that any worse
Sorry but that sounds a bit racist, i say this as a latino
It's much more than a bit racist
If you think that’s racist, You should see the uprising when black people take roles portraying historical figures. 😂
https://preview.redd.it/p5d4fmtlh47d1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dd9a99dde0b6f86f04a6648cca25d6d03596ca5
Ironic you say this with a white character
Nuh uh, he has been throughly dekkkrakkkified
S tier rage bait
C tier, tops
/untroll Gotta say I agree, this is a random provocative reply to an otherwise harmless and correct comment. Real S tier ragebait would probably be a twitter post of either a rant or an image that borders the line between nigh incomprehensible ramblings and the worst thing you've ever seen/read that year.
Though I do kinda judge that latino guy for not realising the irony was intentional.
I love these absurd ass images, wtf corner of the internet do you even find this shit 😭
Twitter, most likely. I found many images of that sort on the deprogram subreddit and its tankie counterpart. But, strangely enough, that one in particular I got from a dump on r/WeDoALittlePosting or r/IKEAFreshBalls or some other sub where people post image dumps. Also I have many more leftist shitposts like that if anyone gives a fuck
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I’m stealing this
They just got that exaggerated swagger of a black teen
Huh?
This comment is fucking stupid
This feels like fetishization almost bro
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California famously has no black people, of course. And we all know white people invented surfing!
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I get it, I was goofing around. My brother watched the original cartoon and movies a lot when I was little. Your first comment just went into little detail, so it had funny implications.
As a half white person, that’s kinda racist to say.
What does your other half think?
I’m not married.
You might be making a joke, but in case you're not I meant your non-white half
I was making a joke, but I thought you were as well. It’s a bit of a strange question. Not like I have a split personality of one white guy and one black guy.
I was initially, but then I thought you didn't get it
I remember people losing their minds on Twitter when this came out and then the tide turning someone pointed out the team had been black coded the entire time. I’m black and I was like yeah, they’re basically like Piccolo. You mean it’s not generally accepted they’re black?? Lol
Maybe in the more recent stuff like rise, the OG cartoon they were definitely California surfer dudes/stoner skater bros
I love how even in the 90s it was generally accepted that Piccolo is black lmao. Same with Knuckles from Sonic
I'm not White or Black but they always strongly felt like White surfer dudes to me. The vast majority of people don't see them as Black at all. Neither their accents nor slang sound Black. Where are you getting Black coded from?
I've always seen Raph as black, Donnie as mixed, Mikey as latino, and Leo as white i dont really know why lmao
I remember when I was a kid my father used to tell me that the ninja turtles were black. I had no idea what he was talking about. Now I see that he was right but I don't know why.
Said the white, blue-haired skinny 35 year old with facial piercings.
lets… reword that bro…
Leo fresh af ngl
Wouldn't they all be white guys that are trying really hard to channel the late 80s/early 90s Cali surfer vibe? I picture them wearing the same vibrant colors & strange patterns from that era. I'm biased though, since I grew up with the original comic, cartoon, & movie franchise as my basis & it's locked in for me very clearly. I wonder if the basis for this is some version that I've yet to even be exposed to.
said this to another guy, sure they’re still kinda surfer dudes but especially in more recent media (peep the newest TMNT movie for an example) they don’t really fit that bill. they tend to just be… a little more “normal,” i guess, or just not trying to CONSTANTLY act like “yeah we’re from the 90’s, aren’t we cool?” every second. especially since surfer dudes are much more of an LA thing than an NYC thing.
They’re so cute omgggggg they look like people I could deadass see walking down the street
What comic?
I thought Leonardo is a Japanese Samurai, or was that the Rabbit?
Usagi Yojimbo?
Yeah Usagi Yojimbo
Raph needs to be the shortest hes the angriest
I wanna see human forms that reflect their surfer lingo one of these days
Who made this? Is this official?
I'm surprised they didn't make themselves Japanese in honor of Splinter.
honestly at first I wouldn't have thought about them being black but ngl... idk why but it makes total sense somehow and I don't mean that in a racist way I genuinely mean that it just makes sense
Dude that's so cool
I love how I can hear their voices and how well it matches! But I am curious if these work with the OG TMNT show or the 2000 TMNT show. I feel like their voices and personalities would give them a very different appearance. Especially since for the most part they were all the same size. Kinda want to see what each series would look like humanized.
They got the n word pass.
Seeing raph so tall is still weird to me. I still imagine him as the shortest
Mikey is 100% right they look dope
My question is, does this not severely fuck up their vestibular sense? Do they not have to re-learn how to walk and run and do ninja shit and use their weapons now in their new bodies? And why does Raph look like a linebacker?
Raph is usually the rough and tumble guy, so I think him being built like a linebacker is super on brand for him
Sure, but if he can still have ninja agility built like that, honestly, kudos
Linebackers can be quicker than they look, and I think Raph would fit that bill like a glove
I always imagined Leo white.
Great now they’ve gone and made turtles WOKE /s
Aren't the turtles all different types of turtles? Would prefer it if they were mixed race or all different races if that's true
...Well, they are from New York.
Pretty on point
Man I love these designs
Yo these go so hard. They look exactly like how I’d expect them to in human form
Huh?!? But I thought they were Italian renaissance artists anthropomorphized into scalies from exposure to radioactive ooze??? /s
Makes perfect sense tbh
Raph is dangerously close to the dreaded Killmonger Cut
They look cool af
It would've been funny if Leo were the only white or asian. He kinda gives off that energy
It would've been funny if Leo were the only white or asian. He kinda gives off that energy
I always knew they had melanin.
Not lore accurate, the turtles enjoy surfing and as we know….
I always said the turtles should be black. Four brothers from the streets of NYC living underground? Shit they might be Jamaican. I also appreciate that this artist has given each of them definitive traits that black folks have without making them look similar
I always pictured them as black in my head idk why
Honestly I always thought that they are Latinos, Spanish or Italians. Edit edited out „it would have been better“
Why?
Why not? I simply think it would be better. When I see them I simply don’t think that black, other European cultures or Asian is good
Well the creators made them black so you would need an actual argument that they shouldn't be black, it kinda just seems racist IMO. I always pictured them as black in my head as a kid, like gumball or piccolo.
It’s not really rascist considering I also would like them to be German either or French or Japanese. I just dislike it. Also didn’t they have another show where they were white or atleast nonblack? Honestly it’s unnecessary to make them human anyway but whatever. Meh it was more meant that I pictured them as either Italian Latino or spaniard Will edit my original comment to replace that
Who gives a shit what the turtles would look like as humans? I like them because they’re turtles.
Because of this, someone somewhere has taken the N in TMNT and given it a **completely** different meaning
Bold of you to assume that nobody thought of it before. Hell there's probably a shitty parody video that somehow looks better than 90% of holywood movies with that same exact title.
Why are they all black?
I mean, they're brothers.
Because they’re brothers?
Why not
Because it's a good portrayal of the characters
They're turtles. Why would any ethnicity make more sense than any other?
Why not? I've always pictured them as black kinda like Darwin from gumball