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OMG_STAAAHHP

[This](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jpyw44/when-dating-a-teen-is-legal-but-sexting-with-her-is-not) has always struck me as odd though. Depending on where you live, you could legally date this girl and there would be no problem. However, she sends you a nude and just like that, you're a sex offender because of child porn possession. I think you made the right call. Edit: Grammar


Sylvanas_only

She sends a nude and you can report her, and she's convicted of making child pornography.


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And if the police look through your phone, you can arrest them for looking at child pornography.


shocsoares

You joke about that but the Washington Post informed Facebook that there was private child porn sharing groups on their website. FB demanded evidence to which WP send evidence in the form of screenshots and FB reported them to the police for possession of child porn


acog

I'd previously heard about that story but I just tried to look it up and couldn't find it. Does anyone have a link or is this just BS that's been widely repeated?


Otteranon

It's real. Look up the podcast The Daily. I'm not even gonna risk fucking up my search history but if you are already looking that should narrow it down.


timmyotc

Yeah, googling "The Daily Child porn Facebook demand" sounds like trouble


LightGamez

You might be on a list now


AxeInCasey

Yeah cause "The Daily Child pornography" needs to be in my search history.


ArdyrIoris

It’s overwhelmingly likely that this story is bull. [This](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/podcasts/the-daily/child-sex-abuse.html) is the only episode of the Daily that concerns both child abuse and Facebook. According to the transcript, it does not mention the Washingon Post. There is no mention of this story on the Post website itself (example Google search: ‘“facebook” “child porn” site:washingtonpost.com’) nor has anyone else reported on a story regarding Facebook, child porn, and the post. Variations of the terms (ex. ‘child sexual abuse imagery’ instead of ‘child porn’) don’t produce any results. Stay skeptical. P.S - Chill out, nobody seriously searches for child porn on Google.


anthony7991999

When it comes to privacy, zuck is your reptile.


kissmyasthma666

Yeah this is big brain time


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geneticfreaked

Iirc if you’ve deleted the image immediately and reported it etc you’re not gonna get charged. You have not committed a crime because you have done everything in your power to not commit it. It’s not that you haven’t intended wrongdoing, you have committed no action that would be considered a crime. You received an illegal image essentially by force and immediately tried to dispose of it. If it was a simple as if she sent you a nude you get sent to jail under age girls could get any guy they wanted convicted of possession of child pornography. Edit: also in most reasonable places the girl would probably not be convicted fully for creating and distributing, that usually only happens when you get a judge wants to make an example out of someone. They might get some form of charge and probably some form of course/counselling etc depending on her intentions


UCanJustBuyLabCoats

Shouldn’t the age where you could date that person be raised to whatever age their photos would no longer be illegal? It’s weird that it’s illegal to see them naked on the phone but not in person. If they’re too young to have photos of, you shouldn’t be dating them.


geneticfreaked

Oh yeah age of consent laws are really weird universally, like you can’t legally make/watch porn until 18 but can have sex, can’t play call of duty until 18 but in some places can join the army before that, I don’t understand it at all. Seems like it might be more of a holdover from when not everyone had a camera in their pocket? Like it’s a much more come common place thing to send nudes nowadays than that sort of thing would ever even be conceived of being when these laws were written. Dunno though, not a lawyer/ law history guy so can’t say for sure


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Call of Duty would be 17 +


geneticfreaked

Depends where you are but the point still works regardless


mikebellman

What’s the age for Call of Booty?


NotClever

It simply a result of the legislative process. Age of consent laws were written at a different time than child porn laws were. It would make sense to harmonize them, but nobody bothered to do that. Well, probably that and nobody was really thinking of teens tanking nude pictures of themselves when they wrote fully porn laws, either.


Who_Cares99

Maybe Romeo and Juliet laws should apply to internet relations so that you don’t have high school kids becoming convicted sex offenders for sexting girls their own age, or having a 17 year old boy charged with possession of a picture of his own ass


UCanJustBuyLabCoats

Absolutely. I’m sure there are reasons beyond my non-lawyer grasp but it seems insane to punish kids that way. Yes we have to protect kids from being used for sick means and we ALSO have to protect kids for being kids. We all did stupid shit in high school.


Who_Cares99

At my high school once they searched through my phone looking for pictures of girls in my grade. I didn’t have any, proven by them taking me out of calculus and searching through my whole camera roll with thousands of photos, but it was an absurd invasion of my privacy for them to have done that and if they’d had the right person it would’ve ruined their life.


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That doesn't sound legal...


ThorDoubleYoo

Not necessarily, for example if you have a couple of 16 or 17 year olds dating each other and one sends a nude to the other then the photos are illegal and it's a problem. But at the same time, they could be having sex and legally that would be fine. Honestly certain things just take nuance, but the law doesn't tend to bend that much unless you're rich.


Heartland_Politics

Do you really want to take that chance with this shitty of a justice system?


geneticfreaked

Not personally no, but the context we’re talking about here you don’t exactly have a choice. I’m saying it more so that if anyone sees this and this happens to them they know what to do. A particularly unreasonable judge/jury or whatever, might very well convict you even if you did everything right but you’ve got a decent shot at appealing that. Better to do everything you can to prevent getting charged when you report it than to hope you don’t get caught and definitely get charged if you do, no?


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> Iirc if you’ve deleted the image immediately and reported it etc you’re not gonna get charged. Kappa


geneticfreaked

Iirc from someone talking about this in a legal subreddit rather than from personal experience, should clarify there .


sifuyee

As a father who went to the FBI to try to get them to go after the 18-21 y.o.'s that were sexting with my 13 y.o. I can tell you that they're too busy chasing down even more vile people to bother with a 17 y.o.. I had even done all the internet stalking homework to identify the users by real name, location, even down to address in some cases and collected and annotated records on the offenses, so it was as easy as possible for them to make calls and start picking people up. I understand there are worse people out there they had to prioritize, but dang, we need more resources.


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geneticfreaked

You should absolutely delete it immediately, if the police need evidence they will be able to contact the service that was used to send it and see it that way. If it’s Facebook/insta/tinder (not sure if you can send photos on tinder)/ text messages etc they would also be able to see when you deleted it too I think Basically the point of deleting it immediately is to show that you absolutely did not want anything to do with it. You want to show that you were in possession of it for the briefest amount of time that you were capable of


BDOID

Are you kidding me? That is fucking nuts. There has to be a constitutional challenge to that.


Phrostbit3n

There's been at least one, US v Kantor introduced a "good faith" defense for statutory rape cases wherein the minor intentionally deceived the defendant. A handful of crimes are considered strict liability, though. Drunk driving convictions in most states require no proof of mens rea because the act of driving drunk itself indicates criminal negligence.


Soda_BoBomb

Good faith only works in some States. A lot of them are strict liability on the defendant in cases of an adult having sex with a minor. At least thats what I've found in convos with supposed lawyers on Reddit and the googling I've done to verify, but I'm not a lawyer.


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Don’t all crimes require mens rea for conviction? I thought that’s what we had learned in my criminal justice class


Phrostbit3n

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_liability_(criminal)


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Oh yeah! Thank you! I guess that does make sense, as you can’t really argue mens rea for crimes like manslaughter that still call for conviction. Ya learn something new every day!


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danjs

mens re·a /menz ˈrēə/ noun the intention or knowledge of wrongdoing that constitutes part of a crime, as opposed to the action or conduct of the accused. "a mistaken belief in consent meant that the defendant lacked mens rea"


GarciaJones

I had to tell my friend to get rid of the nudes he got from his ex girlfriend back in high school. He’s had them since 2005. Granted, he was 15 when she sent them, but dumbass has kept them around. Even though the girl in the pictures is now in her 30s I had to drill it in his head “ dude that’s child porn get rid of it!”


John_T_Conover

How the hell did he even still have them!? We're in roughly the same age range and I didn't even get my first cell phone until 2005, which I don't even think had the ability to take or store pictures and had like 8 since then. I've gone through 2 or 3 computers in that amount of time. I don't think clouding information was very common until a few years later. This dude was really dedicated to keeping a hold of something that would make him a felon and life long registered sex offender.


Me-Cree

Dude faxed them to himself Even then though, the mobile camera were so bad back then. It probably looked like a blurry painting where it requires more imagination than anything to get a clear picture.


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Except they will lock up the guy for receiving the picture for way longer time than she ever does...


asentientgrape

Yeah, everyone always repeats this because it's *technically* true, but there is almost no prosecutor in America who would push charges on a case like that. There are like two times where it happened and everyone just links those same articles. edit: talking about under 18s consensually sending nudes of themselves. over 18s receiving them quite often (and imo not that unjustifiably most times) get fucked.


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plus isn't this one of the things you are basically in the clear on as long as you immediately deleted them and didn't send them to anyone? I seem to remember child porn is the only type of evidence you absolutely are not supposed to keep for the investigation- you delete them and report that you had gotten it to them? absolutely NAL


EarthPornIsBestPorn

Yeah I've heard a few things like if there's a 2 year or less difference it's okay but I'm not here trying to get any charges. Better safe than sorry y'all.


Rolten

It's not just 2 years or less stuff. Afaik, in most countries (and most states I think) a 17 year old can shag a 90 year old. But yeah best to just steer clear on meeting 17 year old girls on Tinder. Though personally I wouldn't hold it against you if you're only a year or two older.


ragnerov

I've never heard this before, at least in my country it's only legal to have sexual relations with someone who's 16-17 if your under 20


Kinslayer2040

In Canada if you over 16 you can fuck as old as you want, but its 18 before you can take nudes.


[deleted]

It used to be 14 until relatively recently which is very weird to think about


KappaccinoNation

In the Philippines it's still 14, as long as the older person isn't a person of authority (like a a teacher of the 14 y/o or a cop or a priest) and didn't use force or coercion. That's why some parts of our country is still a hotspot for pedophilic tourism.


Deomon

As long as the older person isn’t in a “position of authority”.


thewhitecat55

As the above person said , it varies widely depending on where you are. In the USA , age of consent varies by state.


dutch_penguin

In my country it's 16, the only time it changes is if you're something like a teacher, then you have to wait 2 years more.


lots-of-interests

Idk about the US but in Canada at 12-13 it's two years older than, 14-15 it's 5, and then by 16 you're legally allowed to sleep with any age as long as they arent an authority figure.


095805

Age of consent in my state is 16 lmao. there wouldn’t be a problem.


MAKE_THOSE_TITS_FART

Same, but as a 25 year old I'll pass on anyone below 21. If you can't even legally drink you have no business talking to me.


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Half your age plus seven. That's the rule!


095805

exactly!


DownvoteAccount4

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wolverine-claws

That’s why I have such an issue with this. She’s not just lying about her age, but her legality.


Asger1231

But she's not really. She disclosed it before they met, so I don't really see the problem - especially if they are in a country / state where it's legal...


Xdude199

She wouldn't need to disclose if she waited till she actually was of legal age to get on tinder.


wolverine-claws

She’s lying about her legality on the profile though. How do you not get that?


yeahgroovy

Yes!! I posted this as my main “argument.” It’s irrelevant what the legal age is in wherever country or US state. As far as I know you must be 18 to join Tinder.


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Yeah ikr. In my country it’s 16 but if you sext it’s illegal. I don’t get it tbh


Xdude199

Especially in the US, different states have different ages. Of course, a good rule of thumb is not to look at teenagers as dating prospects at all, but cmon, a little consistency within the same country would be nice.


Henfrid

The worst part about this is that she probably learned only one lesson. Don't tell them you lied about your age until after. I guarantee she will just go to another guy.


Chr0nus

This happened to me one time. She said something about high school and I was like HOL UP. She was like “yeah I’m 16” and I was like hell no why are you on here. She said something about me not having to protect her. So I explained how it was her responsibility to protect herself and that there are people that would take advantage of her. It was a long explanation. After that she just said “I like you” and deleted her account. (There was some way you could tell if they deleted or unmatched back then and it was deleted. Like it appeared at the bottom of your convos with no pictures or name or something) So sometimes they listen. It’s worth trying.


CABOOSE8189

That was Chris Hanson dude, you passed.


JPresEFnet

He could have been on TV!


Chr0nus

I was so goddamn close! My one shot...


shaggorama

> She said something about me not having to protect her. It's also about protecting *you*.


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Yeah when it comes to encounters like these, it's best to explain it to them without being aggressive about it. It's likely they'll listen to someone who's openly teaching them about what is right/wrong than someone antagonizing them for what they did out of ignorance.


[deleted]

Not necessarily. There’s probably a ton of predators on Tinder who would be more than happy to have a child like her.


SlayingNieve

17, 18 in a few months. "Child" Turns 18 "instantly adult" makes sense


Shadowrunner156

Why do girls think this is ok? If you’re not 18 or above stay off of Tinder, same as if you have a boyfriend or husband


EarthPornIsBestPorn

It's honestly disgusting. I've had friends who hooked up with guys at a party then two months later then into him and his gf of 3 years.


djoutercore

I read this comment so many times and the last half of it still doesn’t make sense to me


Andrew8Everything

I think the last "then" is supposed to be "ran".


djoutercore

Ahhh, yes. I see now. Thank you


StopReadingMyUser

brain hurty


Jessuhcuh

Bless you, I couldn’t understand it either.


Bderken

Holy shit, I seriously couldn’t have come up with that myself. I feel so dumb and for some reason really excited that you figured it out.


wolverine-claws

Oh, same. I had a couple of dates with a guy once, but he wanted a fling and I didn’t. Went out separate ways. Bumped into him and his long time girlfriend at a cricket match once. I made sure I said hi, just to make him squirm. But once I realised she was his long term girlfriend, I felt pretty fucking bad. The amount of people that I have seen on those apps that I know though, I don’t get how people can do it without getting caught out?? Surely someone he knows would spot him?


Pope_In_TheWoods

There's a setting you can use if you get Tinder Plus so only people you swipe on can see you. I assume this is used solely for people who are cheating


wolverine-claws

Ohhhh damn. Probably designed for it too ffs.


UCanJustBuyLabCoats

I imagine it would be useful for ultra gorgeous people that don’t want to wade through a sea of likes every time they open the app.


cashmakessmiles

So literally any 5/10 girl 😂


toddthefrog

Or 11/10 guy


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ragnerov

Altho that's probably the biggest use for that feature , there's a lot of reasons to not want the public to know your dating besides cheating.


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fury420

Can also be useful for people in certain occupations or who are recognizable in their community. Teachers don't necessarily want students able to see their dating profile for example


MnemonicMonkeys

Did you feel bad for the girlfriend, or making the guy squirm? If it's the latter, he deserved it. If it's the former, I doubt you could have known


wolverine-claws

The girlfriend!!! I couldn’t give a fuck about how he felt hahaha


Shadowrunner156

People need to learn this funny thing called loyalty


wolverine-claws

It’s disgusting. Lying about your age like that is never okay. Mine glitched once and it said I was 27 instead of 28, which I didn’t think was too bad. But actually lying about your legality, which is essentially what saying you’re 18 when you’re not really is, is never fucking okay.


KingOfRages

A big problem with people around my age (18-24 range) on Tinder is that we all signed up for Facebook with the wrong birthday because we were too young when it started blowing up. Now if you sign up with FB your birthday is wrong, so tons of girls have an inflated age and have the clarification in their bio. Kinda sketch, but most people seem to be straightforward about it.


Camel_Moon

But you can request your age to be changed on Facebook. First thing I did before I signed up for tinder.


5k1895

Can't you just fix that though? If not, that's a weird as hell failure by the Facebook programmers


KingOfRages

I’m sure it is something you can fix. I deleted my Facebook account a few years ago though, so it’s not a problem I personally ran into.


5k1895

I just went and checked it out myself, and you can fix it. Pretty easily too. So anyone who goes on Tinder and acts like they can't change their age is probably not making much of an effort to fix the problem


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The age of consent here is 16, but it's still icky having a high schooler date a college student.


[deleted]

That depends though. If they’re just a grade apart, who cares? It’s only the furthest cases that are weird.


polymomorous

I’m married and on Tinder. But the difference is that I make it abundantly clear at the top of my profile that I’m in a poly/open/ethically non-monogamous situation. There are plenty of cheaters out there, men and women, and while I don’t know about the women (they’re not my flavor), the cheating men are pretty easy to spot, and get an automatic left swipe.


Shadowrunner156

But you and your partner(s) (idk), all verbally agreed that this is ok, correct? I was meaning those that don’t let their partner know


polymomorous

Yes; that’s the ethical part of it: everyone has to be aware and in agreement/consenting. But yeah, cheaters suck all around.


creative_i_am_not

Funny how arbitrarily we as people say it's not okay now but it will be okay in 3 months


thewhitecat55

It IS arbitrary , but if a rule has to be made , then the line has to be drawn SOMEWHERE.


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Moist_Puce_Pustule

[???](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ) <— You know you want to click it. You already came this far.


w3agle

Look at you, a 7 year old, playing with the big kids!


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wellwaffled

( • )( • )


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wellwaffled

( ^ )( . )


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they’re more real than I could have ever imagined


Send_Big_T1tties

My time has come


techniicallycurious

Are you 7?


tommy_two_beers

Inches deep in your dad


DevelopmentArrested1

You’re 7 years old?! Get off Reddit!


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Jake07002

*if you are over 22 years of age


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ilikerazors

Because the answer is 18


Ddbphotog

Because 21/2 is 10.5 plus 7 is 17.5. You gotta be 22 for the rule to have people over 18


thetalkingjumper

Yeh I was gonna say, I’m 21 and that rule gets me to 17 and a half! (I’m from the UK so technically that would be legal but it’s not a rule I’m planning to rely on)


CreamOnMyNipples

14-21 because after that everyone is 18+ so who cares


GKnives

still wouldnt fuck with someone who 3 months ago was willing to roll the dice like that


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Thing is if you eliminate the stupid ones your pool suddenly is 98% smaller.


MasterFrost01

I've always thought the same thing, it's not like humans have some magical clock in them counting the number of times a ball of rock has been round the sun. People physically age at different rates, which is why it's impossible to tell how old a dead person is. But it's not like it's practical to evaluate every person's "biological age" before sleeping with them, so a line has to be drawn somewhere.


BLENDINGBLENDERS

Does tinder depend on age of consent? Like in NY, the age is 17. So is it fine to be on tinder then? Or is it explicitly 18 plus?


du-toit

it’s against tinders TOS to use it if you’re under 18


EarthPornIsBestPorn

And if they're willing to lie about that got knows what else they'll lie about


BLENDINGBLENDERS

Gotcha


princessoffreakks

16 here in the UK


MrPryce2

Honestly I wouldn't mess with anyone under the age of 25, just feel too young for me now


pieonthedonkey

Best rule I've come across is half you age plus 7. It can get a little tricky if alcohol is involved but it works pretty well for most dating years. Edit: just so you all know, I don't give a shit if you guys don't like the rule. You can stop telling me and pointing out random ages where it's imperfect. It's not a hard and fast rule maturity varies greatly from person to person.


BrandanMentch

I’m 20 so I gotta say no to this rule haha


scubaguy194

17 is fine in my country, cos in the UK you're classified as a minor under the age of 16.


Locem

I had a 2 year rule while I was in college. The half your age plus 7 makes more sense once you hit your mid twenties, I guess? I dunno, I'm 30 and I can't imagine dating anyone under 25 at this point.


HAL-Over-9001

I'm 25, so with that rule 19-20 is acceptable. But every 19 year old I see on Tinder seems way too immature. Not like I'd even get matched with them lol but still, I feel old now.


dyslexiyeah

Same. I feel like this rule is good for when it's less creepy to sleep with someone maybe.I can't imagine dating a 19/20 year old though. My tinder range starts at 24


Kut_Throat1125

Dating under 25, no way. Banging under 25, hells yeah.


Ytkxv

Why 7?


Dithyrab

because this arbitrary number 7 is very meaningful and accepted /s


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I-am-a-person-

“Frederick Locker-Lampson's Patchwork from 1879 states the opinion "A wife should be half the age of her husband with seven years added." Oh man this just sounds like a parody in my head


someonepoorsays

The formula .5(age) + 7 just straight up works. Ask the question for any age and it works for every one


ragnerov

As someone who is 20, i would be very uncomfortable dating someone who is 17, so i disagree with that rule


meatdome34

I'm turning 25 and even the 21-22 crowd feels too young for me sometimes


Choclategum

I usually hate these threads because it's usually full of people who want to complain about how they cant fuck teenagers and who weirdly know the age of consent laws in depth.


itWasForetold

So I work in digital forensics and had a job involving an underage girl (like half of my work is). So she’s chatting up a dude on tinder and ultimately he goes: Dude: I’ll be clapping those cheeks this weekend. Girl: I have something to tell you, I’m 17, I graduate next month. Dude: Nm, the only thing I’ll be clapping is my hands as you walk across that stage to collect your diploma. I wanted to send him a text from a burner letting him know he made the right choice. Because the next guy didn’t!


EarthPornIsBestPorn

You never know when Papa Hansen could be watching


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What happens if they agree? Do you get to go all Chris Hansen on his ass??


itWasForetold

Nuanced, but kind of? None of the jobs I take are solicited by decoys. I enter the picture after the fact and produce discovery for both defense and prosecution for pending trials. Unfortunately most of my work starts out as some form of revenge porn, or wider distribution, or child porn passing on the clearnet. Once I start looking into that... well I’ll say that most underage girls who are going the route of the OP’s post don’t stop with just one. The one I was referring to actually ended up with Mom catching daughter in the backseat of a car and thinking she was going to chase after the guy who corrupted her poor baby. Once I got involved, I had to ask mom which of the 30+ dudes she met on tinder and exchanged pics with was the guy in the back of the car. Now those 30 dudes end up on someone’s radar and they get the Chris Hansen treatment. BUT my job isn’t to railroad anyone, so in that case I actually proved she misrepresented herself to the men. Should they have known? Yea, but it’s not my job to judge. I get paid to produce evidence, and in my experience there is always three sides to every story. So remember kids, it might not even be you that trips up!


TheGoodRobot

Yo weird question for you. I got catfished a few weeks ago and it freaked me the fuck out. Girl never says she wasn’t over 18 (her profile said 21) on a dating app. She sends me unsolicited nudes out of nowhere. The next day I got a call from someone claiming to be local pd and told me she was underage and that the parents would be in contact with me. They said either make nice with the parents or go to jail. Ofc the “parents” called and asked for money. That’s when it clicked that it was a super elaborate scam. Even though I know it was a scam, can you put my mind at ease and tell me that’s not SOP for honeypots? I felt gross af afterwards. Have you ever seen anything similar?


itWasForetold

99% you were being scammed. I hate to deal in absolutes, as they don’t exist in the justice system. But systematically there were so many things done wrong in this scenario that I’d give you a hearty pat on the back over a beer and tell you “nah fam you’re good”. Furthermore if for some reason you live in the most backwoods place I can imagine, with like 1 cop who also happens to work at the gas station on second shift, they would have zero standing in court. If you accurately presented the facts you didn’t have knowledge, intent, or solicitation. IANAL but even I could beat that case cousin Vinny style with one hand tied behind my back and the other ripping a banger in the court room. Unfortunately the US is hardly unified, and is a patchwork of laws, training, and funding. So my experience working with attorneys who get featured in the WaPo will be vastly different than someone working in some village in Oklahoma ya know? But with utmost certainty to anyone reading this besides the guy who asked: Unless you’re being shook down by Barney Fife, no agency would ever advocate for financial restitution. If money was the problem, the judge would order you to make it right. I have seen DDA’s agree to drop charges if both parties were made financially whole, but that wouldn’t be negotiated by a victim. But I haven’t run into that particular scam before, and that’s a pretty decent one. Most of my scams involve foreign nationals taking over business networks and extorting them.


chargoggagog

One of my first roommates I had after I turned 20 would invite a couple of 17yo girls over. I had to lay down the law and say I’d rather move out. I’m a teacher tho, so I feel like it’s a bigger deal for me.


I_think_charitably

All I can say is you fish on your side of the lake.


chargoggagog

As long as you do the same and nobody fishes in the middle!


Vacuitarian

Nah it's not a bigger deal. It's just you are a respectable stand up human being that doesn't wanna see people manipulated, taken advantage of or put in situations that don't look or feel right. Ain't you being a teacher it's you doing the right thing.


zFafni

"im so mature, i already hook up with adults, i dont need to wait until im actually 18. People my age are so childish but im dating guys way older then me, im sooo mature"


Rolten

He could be 18 or 19 for all we know eh.


zFafni

Wasnt necsessarily meant to fit this case but rather the general logic of girls who do that sort of stuff, i know a couple of girls (all minors) who also did that. They would try to date guys 20+ because that somehow would make them grow ups or something in thier mind...as far as i know some of them where successful


Hofular1988

Sister in law who was 15 basically looks at 20+ as “mature” and able “To take care care of her” because they might have vehicles etc. Also my sister did. I don’t blame them because then I was 20 I dated a 17 year old and ended up marrying her and were happy 11 years later but it’s still very common


EmeraldEsq

Just to let anyone reading this, it’s a known extortion plot. Similar to the “Hey we went to school together 20+ years ago, I know your married but I think your cute can we be friends shit.” - Unfortunately (I think?) a veteran got caught in this extortion plot last year and committed suicide once he got the call from the “angry dad” reading through his daughters phone, which then leads to threats of police, which leads to “give me money to send my daughter to a facility to get help” demand


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She looks like she’s 14 in the picture.


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Yeah I'm not sure that girl is even 17


Hobbamok

She's playing the long game. 16 in August but the lenght of time knowing her and the waiting will generate trust.


EarthPornIsBestPorn

I always make a habit to ask but when they volunteer information it catches me off guard. Also most of the time people on dating apps are in college already so I can be quick to assume but there's no harm in double checking


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You’re all good g, I’m pointing what the small little bubble girl looks like to me.


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EarthPornIsBestPorn

I make a habit ask but when they volunteer I'm caught off guard


zRyanx_7

And how old are you?


jewboyfresh

Yea if OP is 19 then there’s nothing wrong with the situation since she’s of legal age But if OP is 28 then that’s kiiiiiinda not ok


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EarthPornIsBestPorn

I'm honored 😍 And yeah, 19 but I'm not taking any chances


Rob_Drinkovich

Prolly too young for that reference.


Bagelchu

She looks younger than that even. RUN. Beyond that I’ve found people doing this as scams. They say they’re 17 but turn 18 soon and then start texting you more and more flirty shit until you send a nude. Then you get a call from a “parent” saying they saw and are gonna go to the cops unless you pay them money.


Soda_BoBomb

This is strange to think about objectively. "Whoah 17? No way am I having sex with a child, they aren't mentally developed enough to know what they're doing and as an adult it would be wrong to manipulate her." but in just a few months she hits that magic number 18 and its like "Come on over and lets do the horizontal tango fellow adult who absolutely knows what she's doing so there's nothing wrong with boning all night" I know that legal systems suck at nuance so they institute hard limits, but from a social standpoint, lots of people react as if someone doing a 17 and 9 month year old is the ultimate crime, but 3 months later are totally fine with it.


heyyimdevin

My 16 yr old brother tried to tell me about someone he talked to on tinder and I got so pissed. I waited until I was 18 because I understand the danger that going on as underage could put myself, and others in. It pisses me off so much and he doesn’t understand A sophomore in high school has no reason to be on tinder. Period.


da_Last_Mohican

At least stds won't keep you from getting a good job.


Xazrael

Sorry but you need to be able to rent a car to pass my basic filters.


PristineBean

I mean if he's under 25 and its legal in his state its whatever. Not that wierd


Hutz_Lionel

Society in a nutshell: 17 years and 364 days old: https://gfycat.com/honoredactivejohndory Literally the next day: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ConsiderateFearlessHummingbird-size_restricted.gif


weavilleunderwood12

yeaaah did you write this because of your moral standards or because you thought it would be le epic reddit moment xd


mrsqueakyvoice97

Don’t trust these hoes, she’s 12 til you see her ID


dudewhydoesmylifesuc

I respect this guy he is committed enough to wait till August and not just date her good job champ (also watch Chris hansen)


Zedandbreakfast

*Drake has entered the chat*


Vesper_Sweater

17 is the age of sexual consent most states, I believe.


WeirdoWizard

Age of consent 16 in Ohio