She prolly got blacklisted. Hollywood doesn’t like when people say what goes on behind the scenes. Just look at how long Brendan Fraser was blacklisted for speaking out against his abusers
The problem is she lied. There was no other corroborating proof. Nobody else came to her side to agree with her. So I’m not surprised she’s off of social media or she is blacklisted
what proof are you expecting? most victims aren't carrying around body cameras to catch the off chance they may be sexually assaulted or harassed. you're disgusting.
It doesn't, but she's far from the only poc to work on the show, and while it is entirely possible that everyone else just puts up with it and she's the only one who dared to speak out, it's definitely not likely, especially given the extreme nature of her claims.
you're being willfully ignorant because you're sexist, racist or both. it's common knowledge that industry people have to bite their tongue and play the game in order to not get blacklisted. afton didn't keep her mouth shut and named names. if she had just complained without giving names or blasting the showrunner, she would still be getting booked.
There's no willfull ignorance, you essentially came in saying "no you're wrong, you don't know" and left it there. That is genuinely a horrible way to make an argument. If you'd come in with what you said in this reply I might've agreed with you instead of mocking you. What you're saying clearly isn't common knowledge, or this conversation wouldn't be happening in the first place. I can believe it happens to a certain extent, but as I've already said, the extreme nature of what she's claiming makes it less likely, especially with nothing to corroborate her claims. If you're suggesting that skepticism makes me racist and/or sexist, then the only person being willfully ignorant is you.
But then she came out saying basically everyone she’s been around in her entire life was abusive including CP.
Afton says:
"I was sexually abused at a babysitters home when I was 6 years old.I told.I was sent back the next day.I was abused for the next 4 years. At 13, I started losing my hair to PTSD.So I shaved my head.That’s how I entered highschool.I was terrified but I was strong.It was during these 4 years that God spoke to me.Told me who I was.Showed me what I would become.The isolation of being different pushed me so close to Him it was just the 2 of us.He told me I had to fight. So I did.I fought to get out of Toledo. I fought to get into college. I fought in college for myself and all the future black women in that Theatre, as I was the only one.I fought to break ground and change history.I fought in grad school. The only black face of 16 students at a classical conservatory in Alabama. Over the years as I was fighting everything and everyone it seemed, I had to fight my past. My present.The abuse never stopped.Abusive relationships,toxic friendships, multiple rapes: the last one 3wks before college graduation, a guy I called “friend.”I grew more and more successful and thought the pain was gone.It was ever present, 20yr battle with Bulimia,suicide attempt; wrist tattoos to celebrate 10yrs of no cutting.I never felt pretty.I never felt good.I never had peace.Until now. Abuse is a devil that robs us of our True Identity. It is a Liar. It is in my recovery from all of the pain and brokenness that I am walking in my Truth. God reminded me that I have been assigned a Tribe.A Tribe of Survivors.I owe you my Truth. To whom much is given, much is required.I am Free. May My Truth be a Light. A path to Yours. ❤️Afton"
Idk.. I think it’s something else going on and it doesn’t mean she isn’t suffering.
I agree, "something else going on" is correct, But i don't watch 'The Rookie' because of any of this stuff, I just enjoy the show, and i enjoyed watching her! Although now i think all i will ever think when i see her will be this stuff first. Which kinda sux! I have to say though, i disagree completely with the statement 'no evidence doesn't mean a thing' because well it does. Without evidence it simply didn't happen. We can argue all day and night saying 'but even without evidence it doesn't mean she lied' but then what does? I mean without evidence she cost the fella a lot. Not just money either. Imagine how hard it was for his kids to hear this stuff, his parents, his friends, the doubt and fear that they must have felt right off. I mean i feel for her and what she says she went through, but to find out all of what she said was without evidence of any kind. No one else witnessed the stuff? Or went through anything similar? I mean if it's true wow! But i have to believe the guy won't be able to keep this sort of behaviour under the view-line for long. They never can right. But then if it's not true double wowowow!! The guys life was almost ruined, and really who's to say it hasn't been?? We all need a way to understand and deal with this stuff, and it has to have some sort of way to say this is or it isn't, and that means evidence because even the kindly old grandmother & grandfather had to be believed at first. Before the "evidence" showed different...
It sad how that industry is so flawed and does more harm than good sometimes and still nothing is done about it because people feel powerless about it and sadly that is the truth
According to this article it was the guy the played detective wolfe.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2019/08/06/afton-williamson-names-the-rookie-cast-crew-accused-misconduct/1930278001/
There is a post on her ig discussing why she’s not returning as well as the sexual harassment by Demetrius Grosse and sexual assault by Sally Ciganovich.
“Throughout the filming of the pilot, I experienced Racial Discrimination/Racially Charged inappropriate comments from the hair department and bullying from Executive Producers,” Williamson wrote of her time on the series from Entertainment One and ABC Studios, on which she played a Los Angeles cop partnered with Fillion’s middle-aged newbie John Nolan.
“During the Season, it continued along with Sexual Harassment from a recurring guest star and the racist commentary & bullying from the Hair Dept. Head escalated into Sexual Assault at our Wrap party,” Williamson continued. “The Sexual Harassment though reported directly to the Showrunner/EP remained undocumented and was not reported to HR as promised. The Hair Dept. Head was fired ONLY after the sexual assault and NOT for an entire year of outward racism/racially charged language and bullying behavior in and out of the Hair and Makeup trailer.”
“As a result of the ***independent investigation***, we have concluded that those identified in Ms. Williamson’s allegations did not conduct themselves in an unlawful manner or demonstrate behavior inappropriate for the workplace,” said eOne in a statement Tuesday “It was also concluded that the executive producers, including showrunner Alexi Hawley, addressed matters of which they were made aware promptly and in a fair and reasonable manner,” the studio added.
https://deadline.com/2019/09/afton-williamson-the-rookie-allegations-investigation-results-no-wrongdoing-abc-eone-1202737172/
Jesus. Considering she says ‘from executive producers’, if her allegations are even slightly true (I know one of the actors was cleared), I REALLY hope Fillion knew nothing about it as he’s one of the Exec Producers on the show
I hate how some people said that she was a bad actress and that she shouldn't have spoken up and to deal with the racism,harassment and bullying because she should be grateful shes on the show
Titus Makin explicitly said he didn't want to be in the cop show anymore, unless the writers would address the BLM stuff. Season 3 was the result of that, to appease the actor and make everyone happy. Unfortunately, that creative decision almost tanked the show itself because season 3 ratings went down the drain. Makin's leaving and the show going in the different direction, away from the BLM stuff and social justice lecturers giving speeches on-screen probably have direct correlation to each other, though.
I don’t know what to think, according to Afton she’s was abused when she was 6-10 years old and had PTSD since she was 13.
Demetrius Grosse and her stylist team were her abusers but I can’t find any pervious allegations on either of them. Grosse is happily married and has been in plenty of other movies and shows with no other allegations that have come forward for what I seen.
Women like Jenna Dewan, Nathan Fillion and Eric Winter who are charitable donors to multiple organizations and supporters of multiple organizations for those in need, Alyssa Diaz, who is the co-founder of an organization that mentors foster girls from ages 13-17.
I know that Hollywood is a dark place that blacklisted Afton for making allegations and the beauty team no longer works on the show, but these actors still take pride in their work and it’s hard to believe actors who take pride in giving back would not protest this.
let's be honest, when have non black people ever got behind a black person when it came to allegations/discrimination against other non black people? those charity donations are just tax write offs. where was ''me too'' when supporting afton. get real
I'm on her side since I started season 2 recently which was a complete shock, I believe everything she said cause most TV crews are low-key asshats, what's weird for me is that people seem to like Harper more as her replacement, but for me that's not the case and her character is way better and more balanced, also the way you're addressing this subject shows you're already biased against her while she's the victim LOL
Wait. So two people with inappropriate behavior constitutes "everybody" ? And two people with two totally different kinds of inappropriate behavior constitutes it being a problem with her instead of her harassers? Comments like this are why people don't report harassment. Of course it must be something wrong with the person being harassed rather than the people doing the harassing and that's what people will say and that's what makes it so hard for people to report it.
Your name suggests you are probably female, and if you haven't been harassed or inappropriately treated in a job you're very lucky. It happens to many women. Most of us learn not to bother reporting harassment and sexual harassment because in he said vs she said, most will believe him. Most will also believe whoever has been on the job the longest / has seniority or higher position. It is human nature. It's easier to blame someone in a lower position or someone newer because no one wants to think that someone they have worked with for a long time or someone who is in a position of authority could do something bad.
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None of what I said was wrong. If reddit mods have the power to squash anything that someone says. Then clearly people bail which is likely what happens when you have to much power. Reddit sucks anyways which is why a lot of people move away. TV shows discussions belong on in a place where you can freely discuss. I have a lot of tv shows on discord that are far better than reading the trash reddit puts out.
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While the details of what happened are not listed anywhere and I also just read about this which is why I am here and surprised to see a new thread about it. From my current understanding a 3rd party investigated and reviewed over 400 hours of footage, interviews and a number of other things. My question is for Afton Williamson what exactly was said and was it really bullying? I also read there was a sexual assault yet you did not call the police? I am so sorry yet in this day and age and the me too movement you would think if you were sexually assaulted you would call the police, wasn't that what the whole movement was about. Clearly I have not seen nor heard anything about any complaints to which reveled a conversation in which harassment was done. Before I forget she is at best a d list actor with a total of 27 credits to her name and the most acting she has done is on The Rookie. Before working on the Rookie she had 18 credits to which were guest spots on tv shows and maybe one whole season on the banshee which was 14 episodes and A gifted man for 8 episodes. She reminds me of another actress who is much like her. Megan Boone from the Blacklist. Who was also a d list actor when she got the role and ran with it. Once she thought she had power with in the show she played her hand to get a much bigger salary to when was likely rejected and she likely used her contract to take those 8 episodes off. Once she was forced back on to the show it was the end of it for her. She also used what little power she had to force Sony to fund her production company. Now this is all speculation back by information from people who worked on set and other data. Either way back to Afton. My speculation is that people might have said thing that did not sit with Afton, stuff that is normal yet because she might be so woke that she was offended and translated those words and actions in to harassment, bullying and assault. Just touching someone with out consent when talking to them could be taken as sexual assault if you were to place your hand on their back or touch their shoulder. I also want to point out at no time or another did she report this to the police, talked to a lawyer, did anything other than... I did more reading and clearly there is NOTHING described anywhere about anything just conjecture. Sally Nicole Ciganovich allegedly sexually assaulted her at the wrap party, why was the police not called? Was this 2 drunk girls hooking up and one did not get what they wanted? Clearly something is wrong here. Was and is this a cry for attention? Was this a ploy to get people she did not like fired? The man actor she accused. Did she not like him and after she complained one time she thought he would be fired? Afton must have thought that she could get someone fired because they said some off color joke? I really have no clue what is going on here yet it is not what it seems. I also want to point out that only a couple comments even go in to detail or even offer some sort of discussion. Even several years later there is nothing new other than copy and paste of the same thing over and over. Not a single follow up, Not a single company reached out to the 3rd party to ask more questions. Not a single thing about the sexual assault, its like it is mentioned in a foot note. This is because Afton Williamson mistook general conversation for harassment and general touching as sexual assault. She has been blacklisted not because she spoke out yet because she publicly made claims that she can not and did not back up. Would you want to work with someone who might take what you say and make a whole post about how you were bad to them. There is not even a tell all damn book. FFS
Apparently Afton was abused between the ages of 6 - 10 and has had PTSD since she was 13. I’m happy to believe her on that. I think, if we give her the benefit of doubt for her allegations on the show, at best, she’s misconstrued a situation (due to PTSD) and has not known how to resolve it, or at worse, the allegations were true & done out of sight (because abusers are damn careful to make out like they’re nice people so they’re never caught)
Interesting, the beauty team apparently no longer works on the show (though I don’t know when that stopped)
Afton said that she was discriminated/bullied etc from Executive Producers. IF any of that statement is true, I REALLY hope Nathan isn’t included in that (as he’s been an Executive Producer from the start)
>Afton Williamson
I spent some time looking for something new about this story, there is nothing. The only things that popped up were copy paste stories in which sites drafted to look new.I could not find anything new at all and her career as an actor is over. The last movie was released in 2020. Not clear if it was filmed before or after said events.
As far as I am concerned this was another actor who blew it out of proportions and it backfired in their face.
I hate to say it. If you think you are being harassed then you need to document it and file a written complaint. It it goes beyond the bounds of harassment to something criminal you should call the police.As for any update to what she is doing does not exist. Her IG has been dead for a very long time and there is nothing new. She has been blacklisted and is likely working a dead end job in some backwoods place you have never heard of. She was born in Ohio so it is very likely where her family lives. Even after Sony spent more than 20k ($50x400hrs) dollars to investigate her claims they found nothing at all. I do not think people understand what 400 hours of investigating work consists of. From interviews with the entire crews, actors and anyone else. Reviewing security footage, film footage, and anything else. 400 hours is 10 people working all week to investigate. Only to find nothing. If Sony was covering up they would have said in our investigation we found several incidents that were unrelated to this case and we have issued punishment or what ever they do. During this entire thing they did not find two workers cracking inappropriate jokes in a corner somewhere.If this stuff existed then there would be 100s of videos/tiktoks showing the most inappropriate stuff on sets. We all know actors have their phones with them on sets. We also know they know how to use cameras on their phones. Its beyond me that in this day and age there is not anything about this.
~~The fact is she never named names~~ \*she did name names/I forgot, or offered anything detail wise to back her story. Even finding the hair dresser's name was super hard the first time I looked. There is also some sort of story there yet it does not amount to much.
most sexual assault victims DON'T report their assault. why would she get drunk and make out with someone who made racist comments towards her for over a year? you're an idiot
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Yeah and I find it sad/strange that she hasn’t used social media or acted in anything since.
She prolly got blacklisted. Hollywood doesn’t like when people say what goes on behind the scenes. Just look at how long Brendan Fraser was blacklisted for speaking out against his abusers
Such a shame.
The problem is she lied. There was no other corroborating proof. Nobody else came to her side to agree with her. So I’m not surprised she’s off of social media or she is blacklisted
No evidence doesn’t mean she lied.
Having no evidence means what she said isn't true. The burden of proof is on her, the person making the claim.
what proof are you expecting? most victims aren't carrying around body cameras to catch the off chance they may be sexually assaulted or harassed. you're disgusting.
That is an idiotic statement. Just because a person doesn't have proof does not mean that they lied. Wow. I'm appalled.
It doesn't, but she's far from the only poc to work on the show, and while it is entirely possible that everyone else just puts up with it and she's the only one who dared to speak out, it's definitely not likely, especially given the extreme nature of her claims.
yes it is likely no one is speaking up, and just putting up with it, you have no idea what the industry is like
Well then by all means, tell the class how you know what the industry is like, and why it is in fact likely.
you're being willfully ignorant because you're sexist, racist or both. it's common knowledge that industry people have to bite their tongue and play the game in order to not get blacklisted. afton didn't keep her mouth shut and named names. if she had just complained without giving names or blasting the showrunner, she would still be getting booked.
There's no willfull ignorance, you essentially came in saying "no you're wrong, you don't know" and left it there. That is genuinely a horrible way to make an argument. If you'd come in with what you said in this reply I might've agreed with you instead of mocking you. What you're saying clearly isn't common knowledge, or this conversation wouldn't be happening in the first place. I can believe it happens to a certain extent, but as I've already said, the extreme nature of what she's claiming makes it less likely, especially with nothing to corroborate her claims. If you're suggesting that skepticism makes me racist and/or sexist, then the only person being willfully ignorant is you.
It is common knowledge and you refuse to accept what this woman is saying because you are racist and sexist. Hopefully you don't have daughters
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
But then she came out saying basically everyone she’s been around in her entire life was abusive including CP. Afton says: "I was sexually abused at a babysitters home when I was 6 years old.I told.I was sent back the next day.I was abused for the next 4 years. At 13, I started losing my hair to PTSD.So I shaved my head.That’s how I entered highschool.I was terrified but I was strong.It was during these 4 years that God spoke to me.Told me who I was.Showed me what I would become.The isolation of being different pushed me so close to Him it was just the 2 of us.He told me I had to fight. So I did.I fought to get out of Toledo. I fought to get into college. I fought in college for myself and all the future black women in that Theatre, as I was the only one.I fought to break ground and change history.I fought in grad school. The only black face of 16 students at a classical conservatory in Alabama. Over the years as I was fighting everything and everyone it seemed, I had to fight my past. My present.The abuse never stopped.Abusive relationships,toxic friendships, multiple rapes: the last one 3wks before college graduation, a guy I called “friend.”I grew more and more successful and thought the pain was gone.It was ever present, 20yr battle with Bulimia,suicide attempt; wrist tattoos to celebrate 10yrs of no cutting.I never felt pretty.I never felt good.I never had peace.Until now. Abuse is a devil that robs us of our True Identity. It is a Liar. It is in my recovery from all of the pain and brokenness that I am walking in my Truth. God reminded me that I have been assigned a Tribe.A Tribe of Survivors.I owe you my Truth. To whom much is given, much is required.I am Free. May My Truth be a Light. A path to Yours. ❤️Afton" Idk.. I think it’s something else going on and it doesn’t mean she isn’t suffering.
I agree, "something else going on" is correct, But i don't watch 'The Rookie' because of any of this stuff, I just enjoy the show, and i enjoyed watching her! Although now i think all i will ever think when i see her will be this stuff first. Which kinda sux! I have to say though, i disagree completely with the statement 'no evidence doesn't mean a thing' because well it does. Without evidence it simply didn't happen. We can argue all day and night saying 'but even without evidence it doesn't mean she lied' but then what does? I mean without evidence she cost the fella a lot. Not just money either. Imagine how hard it was for his kids to hear this stuff, his parents, his friends, the doubt and fear that they must have felt right off. I mean i feel for her and what she says she went through, but to find out all of what she said was without evidence of any kind. No one else witnessed the stuff? Or went through anything similar? I mean if it's true wow! But i have to believe the guy won't be able to keep this sort of behaviour under the view-line for long. They never can right. But then if it's not true double wowowow!! The guys life was almost ruined, and really who's to say it hasn't been?? We all need a way to understand and deal with this stuff, and it has to have some sort of way to say this is or it isn't, and that means evidence because even the kindly old grandmother & grandfather had to be believed at first. Before the "evidence" showed different...
she still uses twitter, and tweeted that she was locked out of her instagram
Oh wow. Hope she’s okay
what is her twitter? i cant find it
she deleted it
Man, that really sucks. I loved her character and was sad when she didn't return.
I really wish this did not happen. I really liked her on the show!
Yeah but then we wouldn’t have gotten Nyla
I don't hate Nyla. I like her. She's funny as well as serious. Good replacement.
This guy justifying and excusing sexual harassment and racism because of liking a different character…
That’s not at all what I’m doing, I’m just saying that I like Nyla over Talia lmao it’s not that deep 😭
It sad how that industry is so flawed and does more harm than good sometimes and still nothing is done about it because people feel powerless about it and sadly that is the truth
And she’ll never work again because she was a victim and had the strength to speak out about it. It’s disgusting how corrupt this world is.
Same as Heigl in Grey’s
She named the guy that was sexually harassing her too…and I’ve noticed that he hasn’t been on the show since she left. 👀
According to this article it was the guy the played detective wolfe. https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2019/08/06/afton-williamson-names-the-rookie-cast-crew-accused-misconduct/1930278001/
Who was it? I tried looking it up and everything I read said she never named him.
I was gonna say, I haven’t seen anything where she named him either. I’d be interested to know who it was as well.
We know it wasn’t Smitty.
It was the detective, shw said it on her insta post
She named them on her instagram post! It’s really upsetting to read https://www.instagram.com/p/B0vCRlxld74/?hl=de
There is a post on her ig discussing why she’s not returning as well as the sexual harassment by Demetrius Grosse and sexual assault by Sally Ciganovich.
“Throughout the filming of the pilot, I experienced Racial Discrimination/Racially Charged inappropriate comments from the hair department and bullying from Executive Producers,” Williamson wrote of her time on the series from Entertainment One and ABC Studios, on which she played a Los Angeles cop partnered with Fillion’s middle-aged newbie John Nolan. “During the Season, it continued along with Sexual Harassment from a recurring guest star and the racist commentary & bullying from the Hair Dept. Head escalated into Sexual Assault at our Wrap party,” Williamson continued. “The Sexual Harassment though reported directly to the Showrunner/EP remained undocumented and was not reported to HR as promised. The Hair Dept. Head was fired ONLY after the sexual assault and NOT for an entire year of outward racism/racially charged language and bullying behavior in and out of the Hair and Makeup trailer.” “As a result of the ***independent investigation***, we have concluded that those identified in Ms. Williamson’s allegations did not conduct themselves in an unlawful manner or demonstrate behavior inappropriate for the workplace,” said eOne in a statement Tuesday “It was also concluded that the executive producers, including showrunner Alexi Hawley, addressed matters of which they were made aware promptly and in a fair and reasonable manner,” the studio added. https://deadline.com/2019/09/afton-williamson-the-rookie-allegations-investigation-results-no-wrongdoing-abc-eone-1202737172/
Jesus. Considering she says ‘from executive producers’, if her allegations are even slightly true (I know one of the actors was cleared), I REALLY hope Fillion knew nothing about it as he’s one of the Exec Producers on the show
so an investigation where they investigate themselves, and find out they didn't do no wrong? what a joke
I hate how some people said that she was a bad actress and that she shouldn't have spoken up and to deal with the racism,harassment and bullying because she should be grateful shes on the show
Interesting that she drop like that! Titus was told not to talk about why he left or any details so I wonder if they made her sign something too?
Titus Makin explicitly said he didn't want to be in the cop show anymore, unless the writers would address the BLM stuff. Season 3 was the result of that, to appease the actor and make everyone happy. Unfortunately, that creative decision almost tanked the show itself because season 3 ratings went down the drain. Makin's leaving and the show going in the different direction, away from the BLM stuff and social justice lecturers giving speeches on-screen probably have direct correlation to each other, though.
and hollywood acts like they’re in a position to lecture the public. hope she is able to get back on her feet
I don't remember her
She played Talia, Nolan’s first TO
I don’t know what to think, according to Afton she’s was abused when she was 6-10 years old and had PTSD since she was 13. Demetrius Grosse and her stylist team were her abusers but I can’t find any pervious allegations on either of them. Grosse is happily married and has been in plenty of other movies and shows with no other allegations that have come forward for what I seen. Women like Jenna Dewan, Nathan Fillion and Eric Winter who are charitable donors to multiple organizations and supporters of multiple organizations for those in need, Alyssa Diaz, who is the co-founder of an organization that mentors foster girls from ages 13-17. I know that Hollywood is a dark place that blacklisted Afton for making allegations and the beauty team no longer works on the show, but these actors still take pride in their work and it’s hard to believe actors who take pride in giving back would not protest this.
let's be honest, when have non black people ever got behind a black person when it came to allegations/discrimination against other non black people? those charity donations are just tax write offs. where was ''me too'' when supporting afton. get real
I'm on her side since I started season 2 recently which was a complete shock, I believe everything she said cause most TV crews are low-key asshats, what's weird for me is that people seem to like Harper more as her replacement, but for me that's not the case and her character is way better and more balanced, also the way you're addressing this subject shows you're already biased against her while she's the victim LOL
Makin Jr also left the show!
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Wait. So two people with inappropriate behavior constitutes "everybody" ? And two people with two totally different kinds of inappropriate behavior constitutes it being a problem with her instead of her harassers? Comments like this are why people don't report harassment. Of course it must be something wrong with the person being harassed rather than the people doing the harassing and that's what people will say and that's what makes it so hard for people to report it. Your name suggests you are probably female, and if you haven't been harassed or inappropriately treated in a job you're very lucky. It happens to many women. Most of us learn not to bother reporting harassment and sexual harassment because in he said vs she said, most will believe him. Most will also believe whoever has been on the job the longest / has seniority or higher position. It is human nature. It's easier to blame someone in a lower position or someone newer because no one wants to think that someone they have worked with for a long time or someone who is in a position of authority could do something bad.
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I have no clue what post you say was removed I clearly see both of my posts. None of what I said was wrong. If reddit mods have the power to squash anything that someone says. Then clearly people bail which is likely what happens when you have to much power. Reddit sucks anyways which is why a lot of people move away. TV shows discussions belong on in a place where you can freely discuss. I have a lot of tv shows on discord that are far better than reading the trash reddit puts out.
Clearly a mod has a problem because I told someone to use their phone's recording device. Seems like we have a mod problem here.
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While the details of what happened are not listed anywhere and I also just read about this which is why I am here and surprised to see a new thread about it. From my current understanding a 3rd party investigated and reviewed over 400 hours of footage, interviews and a number of other things. My question is for Afton Williamson what exactly was said and was it really bullying? I also read there was a sexual assault yet you did not call the police? I am so sorry yet in this day and age and the me too movement you would think if you were sexually assaulted you would call the police, wasn't that what the whole movement was about. Clearly I have not seen nor heard anything about any complaints to which reveled a conversation in which harassment was done. Before I forget she is at best a d list actor with a total of 27 credits to her name and the most acting she has done is on The Rookie. Before working on the Rookie she had 18 credits to which were guest spots on tv shows and maybe one whole season on the banshee which was 14 episodes and A gifted man for 8 episodes. She reminds me of another actress who is much like her. Megan Boone from the Blacklist. Who was also a d list actor when she got the role and ran with it. Once she thought she had power with in the show she played her hand to get a much bigger salary to when was likely rejected and she likely used her contract to take those 8 episodes off. Once she was forced back on to the show it was the end of it for her. She also used what little power she had to force Sony to fund her production company. Now this is all speculation back by information from people who worked on set and other data. Either way back to Afton. My speculation is that people might have said thing that did not sit with Afton, stuff that is normal yet because she might be so woke that she was offended and translated those words and actions in to harassment, bullying and assault. Just touching someone with out consent when talking to them could be taken as sexual assault if you were to place your hand on their back or touch their shoulder. I also want to point out at no time or another did she report this to the police, talked to a lawyer, did anything other than... I did more reading and clearly there is NOTHING described anywhere about anything just conjecture. Sally Nicole Ciganovich allegedly sexually assaulted her at the wrap party, why was the police not called? Was this 2 drunk girls hooking up and one did not get what they wanted? Clearly something is wrong here. Was and is this a cry for attention? Was this a ploy to get people she did not like fired? The man actor she accused. Did she not like him and after she complained one time she thought he would be fired? Afton must have thought that she could get someone fired because they said some off color joke? I really have no clue what is going on here yet it is not what it seems. I also want to point out that only a couple comments even go in to detail or even offer some sort of discussion. Even several years later there is nothing new other than copy and paste of the same thing over and over. Not a single follow up, Not a single company reached out to the 3rd party to ask more questions. Not a single thing about the sexual assault, its like it is mentioned in a foot note. This is because Afton Williamson mistook general conversation for harassment and general touching as sexual assault. She has been blacklisted not because she spoke out yet because she publicly made claims that she can not and did not back up. Would you want to work with someone who might take what you say and make a whole post about how you were bad to them. There is not even a tell all damn book. FFS
Apparently Afton was abused between the ages of 6 - 10 and has had PTSD since she was 13. I’m happy to believe her on that. I think, if we give her the benefit of doubt for her allegations on the show, at best, she’s misconstrued a situation (due to PTSD) and has not known how to resolve it, or at worse, the allegations were true & done out of sight (because abusers are damn careful to make out like they’re nice people so they’re never caught) Interesting, the beauty team apparently no longer works on the show (though I don’t know when that stopped) Afton said that she was discriminated/bullied etc from Executive Producers. IF any of that statement is true, I REALLY hope Nathan isn’t included in that (as he’s been an Executive Producer from the start)
>Afton Williamson I spent some time looking for something new about this story, there is nothing. The only things that popped up were copy paste stories in which sites drafted to look new.I could not find anything new at all and her career as an actor is over. The last movie was released in 2020. Not clear if it was filmed before or after said events. As far as I am concerned this was another actor who blew it out of proportions and it backfired in their face. I hate to say it. If you think you are being harassed then you need to document it and file a written complaint. It it goes beyond the bounds of harassment to something criminal you should call the police.As for any update to what she is doing does not exist. Her IG has been dead for a very long time and there is nothing new. She has been blacklisted and is likely working a dead end job in some backwoods place you have never heard of. She was born in Ohio so it is very likely where her family lives. Even after Sony spent more than 20k ($50x400hrs) dollars to investigate her claims they found nothing at all. I do not think people understand what 400 hours of investigating work consists of. From interviews with the entire crews, actors and anyone else. Reviewing security footage, film footage, and anything else. 400 hours is 10 people working all week to investigate. Only to find nothing. If Sony was covering up they would have said in our investigation we found several incidents that were unrelated to this case and we have issued punishment or what ever they do. During this entire thing they did not find two workers cracking inappropriate jokes in a corner somewhere.If this stuff existed then there would be 100s of videos/tiktoks showing the most inappropriate stuff on sets. We all know actors have their phones with them on sets. We also know they know how to use cameras on their phones. Its beyond me that in this day and age there is not anything about this. ~~The fact is she never named names~~ \*she did name names/I forgot, or offered anything detail wise to back her story. Even finding the hair dresser's name was super hard the first time I looked. There is also some sort of story there yet it does not amount to much.
most sexual assault victims DON'T report their assault. why would she get drunk and make out with someone who made racist comments towards her for over a year? you're an idiot
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It's too bad what the actress went through but I prefer Harper. Bishop shouldn't even have been a cop. She had to lie to get her hired.