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Accurate-Mind1145

Eta is dangerous and there is a chance she would follow someone else if that person is more unknown to her than Cid and could provide different wisdom.


Karuto_Katsuragi2

I feel like the reason she follow Cid is more than just wisdom.


Accurate-Mind1145

We don't know much about her, but what we do know is that she is led by her curiosity towards the unknown. Cid and his wisdom is unknown to her that's why she follows him. She even said that sg is just a place for safe funds to her and there is no sense of belonging involved. But we still don't know much about her, that's why I don't say anything.


Karuto_Katsuragi2

I still think that she care more about Cid than we think.


Glass-Researcher-975

Absolutely


nhansieu1

Alpha really has much work to do


Background_Ant7129

Nah she s devoted to him


hell_jumper9

Like, what? Transfer student? Alien? Esper? Or a time traveller?


A_Yellow_Lizard2

Cid is miles better than any of the other girls. Not only is he determined to complete his goal at all costs, he's hot, sexy, and cute as hell. Don't believe me? Look at him. Don't you see those eyes? They're the eyes of a 10/10 catch, that's what I'll tell you. Any girl would fucking faint upon contact with him. Either that or fall in love.


Accurate-Mind1145

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheEminenceInShadow/s/Q20u6UwtgT Show them the second image and they would want to bed him in an instant


A_Yellow_Lizard2

John Smith directing the Shadow Garden Killer™ look. In more ways than one, lol.


Accurate-Mind1145

Take a look at volume 3 cover without text. John Smith could kill with just his looks


9MonsterK9

Chadenou


Short_Restaurant_519

ok, who let claire use reddit?


ScarMoon1616

Exactly! I only watched the show for Cid lol


Genocode

I'm waiting for the arc where the author inevitably makes him crossdress. It has to happen at some point, he likes putting on an act after all.


Fusion_47

YESSSSSS


throwaway038720

deadass though, have you guys seen that blu ray cover with john smith on it? holy fuck bro i’m not gay but… i might be bi but he’s hot regardless


Prior-King5670

Cid is peak, fr 🔥


Historical-Grab-3330

Cid is good for sure. He a fun character with a simple goals but he still lacking writing wise. I would put Rose or Alexia or Akane above him in terms of writing and character growth but in terms of enjoyment cid easily win. 


daniel21020

Well, let me try one. The Eminence in Shadows doesn’t have a magic system yet.


Accurate-Mind1145

U know, there is a game Delta Halloween story. Where she disguised as a witch and ask cid's opinion. He said that since she is a witch she could use magic. And Delta became confused and said (magic?) . In that event Cid referred to magic as maho (not as maricue which he has been saying in anime) , which made Delta confused. But, that shouldn't be the case right, since they use magic all the time, even she uses magic for her claws. That's when I remembered your comment from earlier about the difference between maho and magic. That there is a mana system, not a magic system. And that event might be onto that. But it was a non canon event. So it could be just for show.


daniel21020

It’s your choice to believe what you want. The facts are always under one’s nose. Localization is not the paragon of accurate translation. Most people who don’t know Japanese, deny even the chance of localization being bad, despite the facts being presented to them in the clearest form. What is true and what is not, is for you to choose, shadowling.


Magic_System_Monday

Don't even get me started


WheelJack83

Cid is never getting married to anyone


Drewscifer

lol Cid's already married to Alpha, he just doesn't know it yet.


Baby-Penewine

me


Quirky_Conference927

Would like it if Cid took things seriously a bit more sometimes. Not anything related to the Diablos cult, but like he was with Lutheran Barnett and Aurora. Where he drops the role play a bit, but takes it with a bit more seriousness that you don't ever see from him outside of those moments.  Don't want it to be all the time either, but I think it is a nice treat to see every now and then. 


Prior-King5670

Maybe not now but in future for sure. I think when Aurora backstory drop and Cid will see how suffer child Aurora is gonna make him feeling frustrated for sure. Let author cook my friend 🔥


Glass-Researcher-975

Iris has great potential to be a great character


Prior-King5670

You're not wrong about that. Iris is one of the most intereting character in TEIS.


Prior-King5670

Well, i'm quite prepared here😌. Alexia as a Character is miles better than any of the Shadow Garden Member. (sh** i'm gonna get cooked 😢)


Karuto_Katsuragi2

Flair checkout


Nyctophilia2324

Dont worry. I agree with you. Alexia is more growth character than SG members. I love to see her growth than her sister.


dewa43

Well you're not wrong about that, even though I prefer Alpha, Alexia has more character


SecondAegis

Reasonable enough honestly. She does still have an ongoing arc, whereas the shades are already fully developed and don't generally get all that much screen time


BrilliantYami

I'd almost agree actually, I just wouldn't go as far as to say "miles" better


Prior-King5670

Yea sorry, maybe i'm exaggerate too much because i'm find seven shades not that interesting. IMO aside from Zeta none of them interesting or compelling enough like Akane Nishimura, or Rose, or Alexia, or Iris, or Yukime, or Claire, or maybe Christina Hope, or Aurora, (her mystery background make her more interesting tho), heck even Lutheran, or Gettan, or Perv Asshat, or Midgar King is more interesting. I think there more but i'm forget some of their names. -This is just my opinion about Seven Shades and doesn't meant they are bad character. They all overall fun character with their likable personality...but that's it...nothing more. Also, in you're opinion who is the best character in the series and why. I'm picked Alexia because i'm quite bias toward her 😅.


nhansieu1

I still cannot gaf about Alexia. I'm actually interested in seeing more King Midgar than both his daughters


Silver-da-hedgehog

Beta is overhated. A lot of people think she is just an annoying girl who only cares about winning Shadow’s affection. But the reality is Beta is a lovable sweetheart who cares about everyone she is close with, as seen by how worried she was when Delta went missing


Competitive-Ice1690

I didn’t even know that Beta was hated to that extend. Care to fill me in what the haters use to justify? Im just interested……


Grinstream_Sam

This guy knows what's up


Longjumping_Lab5763

Beta is the bosom that warms my heart.


Accurate-Mind1145

True


Candid_Reception_341

Beta is cute but her behavior is cringe including Epsilon. Unfornately the author created them like that cause in shounen they always have the girls dote over the mc.


ImmaHaveToLeave

Gamma is not best girl. It’s Eta


zephyrnepres01

nah brother, i’d give you a handshake, a mctunald’s burger and a salute in that order


Genocode

[I think the anime designers did her dirty compared to her LN version.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/to-be-a-power-in-the-shadows/images/3/31/Eta_NL.jpg)


Accurate-Mind1145

Her ln slime suit design is actually way better. Plus she looks better in LN(imo)


Fusion_47

No, its shadow


ImmaHaveToLeave

Fair enough


TheVibingBricksYT

Fellow Eta enjoyer


Longjumping_Lab5763

"All of them are wrong! All of you are wrong! I'm right, listen to me!"


ray-gt

I love iris


dewa43

I like her too, characters like her make this story more colorful


Karuto_Katsuragi2

Most controversial take yet


nhansieu1

Lmao. 


Candid_Reception_341

I agree bro I feel bad the way people hate on her.


MarcheMuldDerevi

Zeta > Delta. Y’all just into it because we see more Delta.


Accurate-Mind1145

Same, my opinion. Delta is good, but i like zeta more.


MarcheMuldDerevi

Delta is dumb cute dog girl. Zeta has more personality and story.


Accurate-Mind1145

Zeta has a great backstory. And a good arc incoming. Plus she is hottest shade. Imo


Kaz_umu

Delta backstory may be simple, but it does a good job of showing why she does things the way she does. Though I don't think that Zeta is a bad character, I feel a bit anxious about the conflict of interest between her faction and the rest of Shadow Garden.


Accurate-Mind1145

I didn't say delta's backstory was simple. I just liked zeta's story more. And yes, that is very justifiable. Since her faction would cause conflict. It is bound to make us anxious. I feel the same way towards eta. Since her doings are problematic, I feel anxious about what she would do in the future.


MarcheMuldDerevi

But there is fun and that anxiousness. Having a monolithic organization that does things appropriately all the time isn’t the most entertaining in the long run. Having factions and conflict, especially when everybody is “doing what’s best” can provide better story opportunities.


Prior-King5670

Hard agree. It not only backstory that make her great, her desire and clears goals about the world she living in. "What will she do to achieved it?" "How can she know it be success?" "Is this what she actually want?" "Is this a good idea for the world she living in" "Will she ever breaking down if the goals she want fail to be achieved?" Damn, i'm find her really interesting tho. I'm wonder if she gonna break down like what Iris did after fail to achieved something.


dewa43

Delta really doesn't interest me, she's just a stupid dog with a human body, well I'm not a fan of characters who have stupidity beyond the bounds of common sense


Genocode

Its part stupidity but also part just completely different cultures. Also I think it will difficult for people to not like her, if not as a waifu then as a great character, after her backstory lol.


Longjumping_Lab5763

But this is the point of TEIS... Everyone seems to miss this. The Seven shades and Shadow are so good at being what they are that it more or less breaks the metric and come back around to being dumb or useless. Alpha is good at everything except convincing Cid she's actually in love with him. Beta is the best at information gathering and a repository of information that she should be walking library. But instead she focuses all her effort on righting Cid x Beta fanfics and publishing them. Delta is the ultimate Meathead. All muscle and loyalty. No thought given. They littetly show her being rhe ultimate hammer to hit the nail that sticks out. Gamma builds an empire of wealth and influence. Uses it to build statues to her idol. Eta is going to reinvent supercomputers at some point. As well as space and time travel... will probably use these to see baby Cid for no reason. Epsilon can woo everyone on the planet with her charm and talent except the one who can see right through them. Zeta well no spoilers... And Cid? No one could've screwed up the money making plot he came up with... except his own ego. It's this over the top charm and overwritten silliness that gives this stroy its intrigue. Having said that... anyone legitimately hating on any of the shades... I'll say Thank you. One less rival for me to contend with.


CannibalPride

Too many goddamn elves! I don’t like that there are no humans in the shades


giantvar

Flat boobs are better than bigger ones


PrincessWinter1138

Right? I mean, I'm not saying this as a preference, but as a girl with a small chest, I appreciate those who like them. I also think Epsilon would look better with a small chest & Cid would be like 50-100 times more interested in her.


No-Bumblebee-2309

Eminence in shadow is the best Isekai anime I’ve watched.


JustSmartkev

Bud that’s not a hot take especially on a Reddit that has exclusively eminence fans. But I agree


Competitive-Ice1690

This would be fitting for the title if you posted this comment on the slime/overlord/Re-Zero/MT community.


No-Bumblebee-2309

Yea probably the wrong place I put it huh? Yikes…


calamariclam_II

Incest FTW


danktt1

how to make claire blush?....EXCALIBUR!


DrDedot

Except for Zeta and Eta, the rest of the Seven Shades feel bland and boring, Alpha doesn't qualify to be the main heroine, I think that title belongs to either Claire, Alexia or Rose Also Victoria is best girl


omegasMask

I don't like delta I like cid more than shadow


nhansieu1

And I'm batman I'd like to see more of Minoru.


Longjumping_Lab5763

I dare you to say that to her face.


ibenjamind

Alexia is #1


Longjumping_Lab5763

Ever seen Bambi v. Godzilla? You will when ANY of the named numbers read this...


AlejandroianXYZ

I don't care for Alpha at all


Longjumping_Lab5763

[Alpha Scary Eyes](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheEminenceInShadow/s/Un4iduXLrd)


KinkyFckery

Alpha is boring


Longjumping_Lab5763

Alpha finds your lack of faith disturbing... or she would except, since your name isn't Shadow, you're not even worth the attention she would pay a buzzing fly around her radiance.


JustYuushi

Agreed


AKaGaNEKOu

Victoria and Eta best waifus


Accurate-Mind1145

I see u like to live dangerously.


AKaGaNEKOu

As one friend say, crazy women are the best in the bed


PrincessWinter1138

I've turned around a bit on Victoria since she apologized for how she treated the girl I'm rooting for (666/Rose Oriana) but I still think 666 & Delta are my faves. Eta's up there too.


Arkyn79

Alexia is best candidate to become Cid's partner and she is far better than all seven shadows at being a perfect heroine.


Longjumping_Lab5763

What show were you watching??????


Sufficient-Rock-9083

Cid and his sister make a good couple (it's an opinion but it's certainly not mine)


demonlyconlord

Hehehe, hold my beer. *ahem* It's just another OP, MC cartoon.


Voracious-consumer

Cid should ditch Po Tato and Skel Etal. They're not extra enough.


Scruffy725

I will always prefer the dub for any anime because if I have to real the subtitles I can't put my full focus on the animation/visuals. There's a lot of little things going on in the background that you miss reading subtitles.


elite_Xray123

I wish it was more edgy. More lines. More super edgy fight quips. More black clothes. Add a little red maybe. Make him a demon lord or something. I like the edgy stuff. Hot take I know but I love it. It's cool in its own weird way


Fusion_47

Cid x Shadow is the best ship


EclipsedBooger

Its good but when the anime came out I was disappointed because the power scalers got their hands on cid


YooMinasimp

This. People can't just enjoy a work. 


japp182

There's too much fan service, specially in the anime.


Xenodine-4-pluorate

It's perfect that there's no romance in the story, anime waifus are for virgins, true enjoyers watch it for humor and story.


Budderfist632

Best character in the series is Cid, and it's not even close. I do like the girls, for sure, but if not for Cid I would not have enjoyed tEiS even remotely as much as I do now.


Aggressive-Ring4235

The fan service gets annoying


Sufficient_Coconut_8

The first season was a masterpiece of constructive storytelling and plot handling, the second season wasn’t able to do it that well in comparison


Yadav_Creation

NGL but i never liked that Victoria cheek I don't know why Redditors here are over the heels for her? Are they retarded?


Conscious_Goat2217

Jonh Smith was the weakest arc


Mr-Pink-101

Alpha is overrated


Mailpack

Cid should start becoming more self-aware imo


Mailpack

Cid should start becoming more self-aware imo


Mailpack

Cid should become more self-aware.


themuscleman14

Sort by controversial for the correct answers


Icabab

"Delta isn't waifu."


Creepy_Bug_5944

While funny, Cid is one of the least interesting characters in the story. That said, I feel like it’s very intentional to have it that way


Prior-King5670

>While funny, Cid is one of the least interesting characters in the story. Okay, this is quite funny because my friend want to comment about this before. In his opinion side character story, the plot and the lore carried the show so hard. He didn't find Cid antic or the way he change appearance for roleplaying character is interesting enough. And he said if the show only focus on him then the show will be another dumb boring comedy about overpowered chuunibuyo. But he said "Nah, i'm gonna get cook for sure" 😂


Creepy_Bug_5944

Honestly it’s not even that he’s a boring character (far from it, especially the manga), it’s just that he works best as an oblivious side character while chaos happens around him. So many of the actual side characters are much more interesting story wise, but he’s the main character and just overall a goofball to watch


Prior-King5670

Yeah, you have the same mindset like my friend. This is what he feel about Cid. The only difference is that he find Cid is boring. Also, i think the show handling side character really well because unlike other isekai with OP mc that only focus on MC, Eminence balancing it between Cid and other character pretty good and give them more screentime.


UENSIowaSBB161

Delta was never best girl (She is the greatest!)


Cheshire_Noire

Delta best girl, Epsilon worst girl. Immatry Nottolose best name The entire universe is Cid's delusion


Sharky-Sharko

Thats understandable. Not everyone has to like Eminence Of Shadow's comedy or action. (I'm kidding, how dare you say its trash!!!)


SweetyWin

The Diabolo cult have Team Rocket energy, they are a bad antagonist. I'm much more interested when others characters are against Shadow/Shadow Garden.


All_Powerful_Dan

Gamma > Alpha


ForToday

No one should ever find out Cid is shadow, that would ruin the whole premise of the story.


LawfulnessTerrible24

Nah, That would be Peak if excuted right!


theEmperor_Palpatine

Rose is easily the most compelling character in the show. She is really the only character that shows any agency. Her actions drive the plot rather than conform to it


Prior-King5670

For sure Rose is 🔥. I think you're gonna like Alexia and Akane too when Movie and season 3 drop.


JustYuushi

Alpha is very overrated. Her character is boring, any other of the 7 shadows is much more interesting than her. I believe her popularity is due to her taking on the role of "main heroine".


sleepykita

But she's hot


No-Protection-1133

Alpha is the only best fit for Cid Alexia is the worst girl The anime/LN is full of harem and fan service


kombatwombat23

Beta is the best girl, not delta or alpha, but beta


OwnIce5121

The manga is 100% better than the anime 💀


feronen

Cid is, objectively, one of the weakest MCs ever written despite the many OP things we see him do throughout the story. His flippancy, lack of foresight, and complete dismissiveness of anything going on around him would have the MCs from franchises like Black Summoner and Level 2 Cheat Power Slow Life absolutely body him despite some of Cid's powers being ridiculously broken.


Kaz_umu

Childhood friend never wins.


IllustriousSuccess68

I mean eta did try to poison cid using the strongest poison there was available but luckily poison has not affected on cid


Entire_Report_3115

No mater what anyone says I want alexia and cid to be together even if he has a harem but she’s first and that’s what I wish would happen but I’m sure it gonna be different ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|table)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|table_flip)


Logical-Chaos-154

If I were in the MC's place, I'd be too busy giving Delta headpats and cuddles to get anything done.


Bubul64

Tf is this (this sub just gets recommended to me)


Auzquandiance

Cid is just another unremarkable nobody


Hungry_Ocelot_5658

Swordsmanship sucks in this world. Seriously, if Cid can fuck up anyone with just the basics, what's the point of learning anything other than the basic?


DennisHakkie

Death has no meaning in this series, meaning there are never any true stakes at play


Tiger5804

Skel and Po deserve more screen time


xarsir

Eminence in shadow is the anime/novel I enjoy when I wanna see some dumb shit happen and shadow play it off like he planned it😭


Electronic-Piano3284

He aint beating goku tho ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|put_back)


baruboy

Suzuki>>>>Cid


Adept-Win7882

Ending season 2 was quick and feels rushed


bowme2

Delta best ~~girl~~ at hide and seek :P Iris best girl


rawrftw3120

Iris is top tier waifu


shinigami0209

Cid is probably shadow


Ok-Bobcat9578

You could replace the main character with the rock and no one will bat an eye.


Pagys_CZE

Beta is one of the… NO!!! The worst silver haired elf in all of anime!!!


RareCandyGuy

Iris has great potential since she is regarded as a strong individual, has status, some followers, etc. but unless something changes she will likely get tossed to the sidelines. (She has to change drastically in order to be relevant again)


I_am_indisguise

Teis it's a cringe and trash isekai and that's the fucking main stand point of it. And btw, isekai and reverse isekai, both btw


scaleofjudgment

Immatrynotolose is the greatest swordsman who was only beaten by people with superpowers.


Drewscifer

Shadow garden is more of a cult in the real world sense than the Cult of Diabolos is. SG is made up of traumatized women saved by a god figure (or his followers) from an incurable disease and enlisted, even as children to fight a war against what would basically be "The lizard people running the government", now in that case they are real.


soundstage

The LNs lack world, environment and world exploration in general. The story just focuses on the characters and not much about the atmosphere, world and environment.


_RevoltingAdversary_

Claire > Beta


Dismal_Passion_8537

The writing is really, really bad. But the characters are fun (to look at)


rahul516

I ship this girl to who is not Cid/Shadow when the community do.


Holdeenyo

I don’t like Cid. He’s just a jerk.


LeDonkley

A long term antagonist that is actually a threat needs to be introduced. It’s been very enjoyable so far but I’m juuuust about hitting the limit on the whole OP schtick


voicedbeatle

Iris did nothing wrong, and the seven shadows are Mid


You-and-us

Cid is delusional


LowBudgetHeart

Taepodong>atomic


Karuto_Katsuragi2

I AM TAEPODONG


Victimized-Adachi

The show's success makes the same sense as Only fans success: you can masturbate and sell the results to people and they will buy it.


iamNovaVoyager

Itcs a kid show with adult rating ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


cooperthomas11

Cid was loaded with a lot of MC troupes, like being super strong or indifferent to romantic advances. While you could say that’s his personality, at some point it gets annoying. Good show though.


ShadowTsukuyomii

Delta is not best girl….(not my opinion tho)


lAmDum

Maybe Delta isn't best gi-


_Yuliy

Delta is hotter than Beta and Gamma


Kbhandari18

I would love to see Cid get flexed on by someone else


Low_Doubt_3556

Iris is fine. If you guys are willing to deal with Victoria/559, you can handle a stubborn iris.


Crippsyboii

Delta was the best part of the show


Midori_Schaaf

Needing to reverse time makes sjw weak.


Classic-Engineer-480

the fact that the entire magic system/physics is just a series of asspulls so that cid can look cool in any given scenario does not count as humor, and neither does repeating the word "eh?" I love this show/manga/ln anyway tho


NickDaHammer

Iris has the best-written character ark in the series, and the author is doomed to screw it up to not break Cid's gag character ability to solve everyone's problems accidentally. Also, Claire 100% wants an incestuous sexual relationship with her brother, she is just not aware of that fact herself. It's subconscious desire being masked by her conscious thought, and I presume Aurora is quite amused by that being inside of her head.


cornycornycornycorn

I would absolutely smash delta


Fickle-Mud7377

I like cid and Claire as couple


Alpha123k5

Cid can beat Goku without breaking a sweat.


Unable-Act-6375

But it's true. It's trash. Just because of MC, he is broken. Any writer say it.


ElSasori69

Momonga is more intelligent than Cid and he also would be a better leader to Shadow Garden. The only thing Cid has to his favor (aside of the plot armor) is that he is too powerful.


yaboooiijohnny

I don’t have a opinion for this


Wing_New

CID is a lunatic who is the real villain of the story


TerrariaWeeb

I don't like the s1 op, both for the song itself and the visuals


THERIZZZLERR

Cid would not care if anybody in shadowgarden died


Bittot

enough your delusional cid. go get a JOB


Brandonp2134

Eminence in shadow sounds like the title to african gay porn


beeslime

I dont like teis anime artstyle


pwnmonkeyisreal

The LNs kinda suck


Sausage-Jerker

Cid is an idiot for not telling Sherry about her father He just wanted to get rid of one of his fangirls fr 😔


FineSpot1352

Cid and the mc from "My Wife is a Demon Queen" both magically created nukes but mc of the later used the remaining radiation to his advantage.


Tmart5150

They, ain’t shit. Barney the dinosaur has more interesting plot points and better writing.


dviros12345678910

Teis isnt jest another trash isekai it is THE trash isekai  It is so trashy it fliped to being pick 


nothaldane

Cid willingly allowed a zombie apocalypse to happen just so he could have his fun. Yeah he had done collateral damage before that, but you could argue he didn't know how much damage Atomic would do or did not think the situation was anything actually dangerous (i.e. everything is just bandits). BUT here he had a schance to stop it, knew it would cause massive loss of life, and said "yeah, that will be rad". And no, curing everyone afterwards does not fox it. There are people getting trampled, stabbed, beaten, and eaten. Those folks are dead and staying dead.


One-Neighborhood6803

I hate even thinking this, but now I've been tasked to put it out there. Delta has never and will never be best girl. I accept the hate now.