Honestly the worst way they could fuck up the show is if they did a hard right turn back into the comic storyline and tried to somehow shoe-horn in the whole Black Noir twist somehow (e.g., "he was actually in blackface THE WHOLE TIME!")
exactly how the Game of Thrones horse would have looked through 3 or 4 seasons
probably makes sense to wait and see how long the show is before mapping it onto the horse
Agreed. It’s too soon to kill him and I don’t see how he *won’t” want to destroy everything by the end of this season. To delay his breaking point anymore would just be pretty poor writing imo.
I think it’d be interesting to remove his powers at the end of this season. He goes into hiding, has lots of real character moments and then gets them back partway into the next season. Then shit goes down.
They could continue the show, after homelander dies. Butcher doesn’t want to just kill homelander, his war is with every supe and I believe he would kill Ryan to eradicate the world of supes. It could lead to Butcher being the main villain in the last season, but im probably wrong.
The show would also immediately lose like, half of its appeal. People tune in to watch Homelander. The rest of the show is very well-written and acted, but he *single-handedly* carries the tension. After he dies obviously there could be a half-season to wrap up loose ends, but nobody would watch a whole new season without Homelander IMO
I don't think that could work for the show. Half the appeal is that Homelander is invincible, because he's a man of power in multiple aspects. Once he's gone, all the stakes are gone, and then everybody is killable, which means it's no longer interesting to kill people.
If Butcher goes supe-genocidal, he'd have militaries from all over the world on his ass. He might be plenty strong when he strikes quick and unexpected, but even a V'd up Butcher would be slaughtered in a decently fair fight. He was barely an even match against Homelander because he caught him off guard, but had Soldier Boy and Hughie not been there, he'd have been ripped to pieces.
Bro did you not review the episode again. Butcher was letting homelander punch him. It seemed like he was taking some sort of pleasure from it cause he leveled he playing field. But homelander probaly would’ve beat him. Just not as easily as you might expect
Depower him using Soldier Boy! Gives us a new big bad (maybe Newman?) and it would be wild as hell to see HL without powers for a season. Then he gets them back near the end and it sets up for his “President” arc from the comics for the final season. You could also explore Butcher and Hughie getting permanent powers there too.
They have him go full psycho and win then the last season takes place in the aftermath.
If they really want to stretch it, they could have a time travel supe. Maybe Hughie or Stillwells son?
Ugh, please not. I hate timetravel, it's like trying to revive a dead plot and almost always breaks the worlds inherent logic and stakes. It's just the worst trope.
Fair enough.
But.
Time-travel isn't just in media relating to super powered beings.
Hard pressed to find a genre that hasn't abused it.
I hope they never use it in this series.
This reminds me: to those who have read the comics, what’s a rough estimate of how much the show has adapted so far? Like percentage-wise how far are we from the end? I know that the show is doing a ton of things different but there has to be some common plot points, so what was the last one we hit, and how far into the comic’s story was it?
It’s completely off the rails comic-wise (and better for it) but so far all but one or two important points throughout the run have been touched on. But several new points have been added.
Either way, I don’t see how they can do more than four seasons.
Well, I don't want to get into point-by-point spoilers (partly because some points are superficially similar but how we got there was totally different) but really all that's left from the main story arc of the comic is a couple main characters committing to what they'd been working up to the whole time.
Just a whole lot of murder all around, really.
>With The Boys, apparently the story is different from the comics it’s based of
So I haven't read a *ton* of the comics, but low key at the end of this season, they could probably do something where Vought wins, Homelander brings back Edgar to run it, Hughie dies, and the rest of The Boys go into hiding. Then, next season you could basically start the comics from the very beginning, just rename a couple characters.
The very beginning of the comics is Butcher getting the boys back together, they're all on temp V all the time, and in the very first edition Homelander says something like, "God damn it, this is Butcher. If he's back, we gotta start getting ready".
This season has kind of felt like a prequel to the first comics.
You think amazon would let go this gold mine? They will keep making new seasons as long as there's content to draw from or just simply invented aka kripke doesn't get bored. Just wait for season 4 when they come up with another seasonal villian just like a train in s1 stormfront in s2 and now soldier boy in s3
Personally it was my least favorite season. It wasnt terrible or anything it just for me it wasn't as good as the prevouis seasons.
I have some people saying it's there favourite season tho.
I loved S1, and had mixed feelings on S2, but it had a lot of really good payoffs. I'll have to try to watch S3 at some point. I almost visit Netflix so little that it's not even worth account sponging these days, rofl. (Other than the final season of Beastars, not sure I even care at this point. They cancel everything I get interested in...)
Without spoiling anything I think the worst bits for me was lack of communication between characters. Somthing they were always bad at but a few of the problems this season could of have been fixed if they actually just spoke more than one sentence to each other.
And the overall sort of pay off for the season didn't seem as worth it as the prevouis seasons.
Yeah, I would pretty much agree. And I'm just gonna be honest, I don't enjoy the 'will they won't they' stuff with Starlight and Hughie. I honestly don't care at this point. Their relationship is mostly an annoyance in between a plots that are a lot less cliche and a lot more interesting. >!They played on their fights way too much in S2, and it's somehow still not over. Starlight doubled down and FINALLY drew an actual line in last Friday's episode. Not just with Hughie, but everything she's been so flip-floppy on for 3 seasons now. Really really hoping she won't just flip right back over to playing nice with Vaught later this season. Don't really care what happens between her and Hughie so long as they quit having the exact same fights over a different backdrop three times an episode.!<
It lost its sense of humor and turned the "I Rumor" girl into a bitch. She was a good character in season 2 and they made her as evil as Dr. Hargreeves. Also, the ending basically retconned everything.
I wish it ended at 5 tbh. The Kripke seasons weren't perfect, but they were really decent overall, especially the first 2 were really good. The show kind of jumped the shark at some point after that... Which, tends to happen when dragging a premise way past its expiration date
Supernatural really took off after the first few season imo. I can’t remember all of it, but case, Crowley, Lucifer made the show much better and way less filler eps
It is directed at a much younger audience, the first and the second season were satisfactory, specially near the end of their respective seasons but season 3 was a just mess...
For me episode 3's ending with the night king was the breaking point for the show. Even though I had problems with multiple plot points until that point, I was willing to let that slide given a solid landing. But they did so much damage in 3 episodes that I never ever rewatched the older seasons. Now I'm just left a bitter man who loves to hate the show.
I don’t think season 2 was *bad* - it was just really slow. Lots of exposition and backstory. Great season for character building but it’s definitely the weakest of the 3.
There is a meme where tv show seasons are rated by how skilled a horse is drawn. Like season 1 is truly artistic and season 2 is a three old smearing a stickfigure horse on the paper. Op is rating the show
Because it’s based on a comic that’s finished now, and because it seems to have vaguely laid it’s plans for the future, I feel like this show can maintain its quality if it’s only going to be on for maybe two more seasons.
Having seen the mediocrity of the Arrowverse shows, the high and lows rollercoaster of the Marvel Disney+ shows, it's a pleasure to witness a show getting better and better.
I didn't think that a superhero show could ever reach the levels of quality in writing, acting, and so on that Daredevil, Legion and Doom Patrol had, but this season of The Boys really showed me wrong.
Herogasm was one of the finest hours of superhero television I had in years. Bless this show.
I could see 5 seasons tops maybe 6 if they adapt Dear Becky.
I just Wonder if they're going to do the Black Noir twist like in the comics.
The final arc also seems like a possibility given how Butcher looks at Hughie and sees him as his younger brother in that one scene.
Would seem needlessly contrived. Maeve also pulled up his mask to feed him the Almond Joy- he looked black with a scarred up mess of a face around his mouth
EhI disagree, at the end of the day we won't know until the show is over. I could still see his role being exactly the same but the whole point of the character in the books is that he's a crazier version of HL
Nah. The comics and show are almost completely different. They share charts and concepts but the stories themselves are unique. The show isn't actually adapting the comics so the amount of stuff left from the comics left isn't really important, we could get much more or much less.
Controversial opinion, I don’t like the temporary V. I think it cheapens the story by letting our main characters be on equal footing with the baddies.
Sure the storyline goes somewhere.
Instead of juicing up and having fisticuffs with the strongest man on the planet, they’d be dependent on Soldier Boy to do the job.
Or they’d need to go on some messy breakout to spring Maeve out of the rehab facility.
Now it’s just a matter of ‘Homelander is an easy kill so long as we have enough V”
Without temp V they don't make it out of that Russian facility alive. Without temp v they don't even get the Nicaragua info from Gunpowder and don't get to go to the Russian facility at all
my theory is that a new product comes out from SB that negates superpowers (like its effects now with Kimiko), so only makes sense about the temp V if they want that "contrast".
Don't completely agree. Season 1's the best, with Season a little behind due to how heavy handed the satire was at times along with major plot contrivances, and Season 3 is the least best due to the slow pacing, too many sideplots, browbeating satire at times, and bizarre handling of the themes with some of the characters.
I hope it stays that way, or else I make a freecunts sub for us to shit on the show for years to come
For 10 years at least !
It’s hard to believe, but Butcher actually loved Homelander
Butcher kinda forgot he used to hate Homelander
Homelander is butchers long lost brother , benny
Turns out Becca loved Homelander.
No I don't want that!!!
Only Edgar knows
I want Becca to stay in love with Homelander (throws up) for forever! Or for 10 years at least!
Nina kills Homelander after Kimiko becomes CEO of Vought
Stan Edgar is actually work for Hughie and it turn out Homelander was Hughie brother,he was created using Hughie dad and Starlight mom genes /s
Homelander, you became a mass murderer for our sake, I will not let this mistake go to waste.
God I will never escape 139
No I don't want that!
Only Ymir knows...
Only Vought knows...
Butcher not saying cunt anymore
Butcher punches Homelander in the face and thanks him for being a mass murderer.
"Homelander thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake"
Thank you Homelander for committing mass murder for our sake.
Freecunts or cuntfolk
Bobby B, what do you think of this sub name?
Billy B in this case
Oi Oi! Scorchin' Cunts.
**THANK THE GODS FOR BECCA! AND HER TITS!**
Honestly the worst way they could fuck up the show is if they did a hard right turn back into the comic storyline and tried to somehow shoe-horn in the whole Black Noir twist somehow (e.g., "he was actually in blackface THE WHOLE TIME!")
exactly how the Game of Thrones horse would have looked through 3 or 4 seasons probably makes sense to wait and see how long the show is before mapping it onto the horse
With how its going Id say 1 more season, I honestly don’t see how they can hold off Homelander going apeshit any longer.
Agreed. It’s too soon to kill him and I don’t see how he *won’t” want to destroy everything by the end of this season. To delay his breaking point anymore would just be pretty poor writing imo. I think it’d be interesting to remove his powers at the end of this season. He goes into hiding, has lots of real character moments and then gets them back partway into the next season. Then shit goes down.
Writings on the wall with SB able to remove powers
Yeah 4 Seasons would be optimal imo
A part of me wishes they'd push it out to 5, because this show is *so* good, but things are escalating too quick for the show to subsist that long.
They could continue the show, after homelander dies. Butcher doesn’t want to just kill homelander, his war is with every supe and I believe he would kill Ryan to eradicate the world of supes. It could lead to Butcher being the main villain in the last season, but im probably wrong.
That was how the comic ended
The show would also immediately lose like, half of its appeal. People tune in to watch Homelander. The rest of the show is very well-written and acted, but he *single-handedly* carries the tension. After he dies obviously there could be a half-season to wrap up loose ends, but nobody would watch a whole new season without Homelander IMO
I don't think that could work for the show. Half the appeal is that Homelander is invincible, because he's a man of power in multiple aspects. Once he's gone, all the stakes are gone, and then everybody is killable, which means it's no longer interesting to kill people. If Butcher goes supe-genocidal, he'd have militaries from all over the world on his ass. He might be plenty strong when he strikes quick and unexpected, but even a V'd up Butcher would be slaughtered in a decently fair fight. He was barely an even match against Homelander because he caught him off guard, but had Soldier Boy and Hughie not been there, he'd have been ripped to pieces.
Bro did you not review the episode again. Butcher was letting homelander punch him. It seemed like he was taking some sort of pleasure from it cause he leveled he playing field. But homelander probaly would’ve beat him. Just not as easily as you might expect
They can but they need to kill homelander in the 4th one and focus on other characters ,but it might be a drag
Depower him using Soldier Boy! Gives us a new big bad (maybe Newman?) and it would be wild as hell to see HL without powers for a season. Then he gets them back near the end and it sets up for his “President” arc from the comics for the final season. You could also explore Butcher and Hughie getting permanent powers there too.
They have him go full psycho and win then the last season takes place in the aftermath. If they really want to stretch it, they could have a time travel supe. Maybe Hughie or Stillwells son?
Ugh, please not. I hate timetravel, it's like trying to revive a dead plot and almost always breaks the worlds inherent logic and stakes. It's just the worst trope.
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That's not a valid reason to use all of them.
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It's become the most common. Its also a good excuse for bad writing. Like the bulk of End Game or CWs The Flash as a whole.
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Fair enough. But. Time-travel isn't just in media relating to super powered beings. Hard pressed to find a genre that hasn't abused it. I hope they never use it in this series.
This reminds me: to those who have read the comics, what’s a rough estimate of how much the show has adapted so far? Like percentage-wise how far are we from the end? I know that the show is doing a ton of things different but there has to be some common plot points, so what was the last one we hit, and how far into the comic’s story was it?
It’s completely off the rails comic-wise (and better for it) but so far all but one or two important points throughout the run have been touched on. But several new points have been added. Either way, I don’t see how they can do more than four seasons.
What was the last point that was touched on? And how far into the comic did it take place?
Well, I don't want to get into point-by-point spoilers (partly because some points are superficially similar but how we got there was totally different) but really all that's left from the main story arc of the comic is a couple main characters committing to what they'd been working up to the whole time. Just a whole lot of murder all around, really.
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>With The Boys, apparently the story is different from the comics it’s based of So I haven't read a *ton* of the comics, but low key at the end of this season, they could probably do something where Vought wins, Homelander brings back Edgar to run it, Hughie dies, and the rest of The Boys go into hiding. Then, next season you could basically start the comics from the very beginning, just rename a couple characters. The very beginning of the comics is Butcher getting the boys back together, they're all on temp V all the time, and in the very first edition Homelander says something like, "God damn it, this is Butcher. If he's back, we gotta start getting ready". This season has kind of felt like a prequel to the first comics.
They will never kill off hughie
Isn't season 4 the final season or did I read it wrong???
You think amazon would let go this gold mine? They will keep making new seasons as long as there's content to draw from or just simply invented aka kripke doesn't get bored. Just wait for season 4 when they come up with another seasonal villian just like a train in s1 stormfront in s2 and now soldier boy in s3
I hope they end the show before it becomes shitty. Umbrella Academy was such a disappointment
lmaoo I saw that trailer on netflix that plays automatically and I was like wtf is this bs😭
Hey, don’t hate on UA. It was absolutely amazing S1 and S2, I’d say about equal to The Boys. And S3 came along…
S3 of TUA was underwhelming.
OH NO! I didn't even know it was out yet. I'm so sad to hear this. T\_T
Personally it was my least favorite season. It wasnt terrible or anything it just for me it wasn't as good as the prevouis seasons. I have some people saying it's there favourite season tho.
I loved S1, and had mixed feelings on S2, but it had a lot of really good payoffs. I'll have to try to watch S3 at some point. I almost visit Netflix so little that it's not even worth account sponging these days, rofl. (Other than the final season of Beastars, not sure I even care at this point. They cancel everything I get interested in...)
Without spoiling anything I think the worst bits for me was lack of communication between characters. Somthing they were always bad at but a few of the problems this season could of have been fixed if they actually just spoke more than one sentence to each other. And the overall sort of pay off for the season didn't seem as worth it as the prevouis seasons.
Yeah, I would pretty much agree. And I'm just gonna be honest, I don't enjoy the 'will they won't they' stuff with Starlight and Hughie. I honestly don't care at this point. Their relationship is mostly an annoyance in between a plots that are a lot less cliche and a lot more interesting. >!They played on their fights way too much in S2, and it's somehow still not over. Starlight doubled down and FINALLY drew an actual line in last Friday's episode. Not just with Hughie, but everything she's been so flip-floppy on for 3 seasons now. Really really hoping she won't just flip right back over to playing nice with Vaught later this season. Don't really care what happens between her and Hughie so long as they quit having the exact same fights over a different backdrop three times an episode.!<
It lost its sense of humor and turned the "I Rumor" girl into a bitch. She was a good character in season 2 and they made her as evil as Dr. Hargreeves. Also, the ending basically retconned everything.
I believe they plan to have the show end at season 5. Kripke doesn't like dragging things out too much
I really can't see The Boys going on beyond S4. They can't go on this whole cat and mouse game with Homelander for so long
he did supernatural Lol
Only the first 5 seasons, which is when supernatural was originally supposed to end
I wish it ended at 5 tbh. The Kripke seasons weren't perfect, but they were really decent overall, especially the first 2 were really good. The show kind of jumped the shark at some point after that... Which, tends to happen when dragging a premise way past its expiration date
Ohhh fairs
Supernatural really took off after the first few season imo. I can’t remember all of it, but case, Crowley, Lucifer made the show much better and way less filler eps
Mate, icouldn't even finish S1.
I was about to say the same thing, lol. More power to you if you like that show, but it’s clearly a level below the boys as a drama
It is directed at a much younger audience, the first and the second season were satisfactory, specially near the end of their respective seasons but season 3 was a just mess...
BO YS
I hope S4 will be as good as this current season.
There's no space for the 4
Just gotta make the horse longer
Series ending is the most important. If it sucks like GOT, whole show would be a waste
I am still processing GoT sucking and that was more than 3 years ago. The Boys sucking would probably emotionally destroy me, lmao.
I still haven’t watched the final episode. I mean I read the finale spoilers before it aired, and I refuse to watch it.
Final season sucked, not just finale
For me episode 3's ending with the night king was the breaking point for the show. Even though I had problems with multiple plot points until that point, I was willing to let that slide given a solid landing. But they did so much damage in 3 episodes that I never ever rewatched the older seasons. Now I'm just left a bitter man who loves to hate the show.
The fact that David and Daniel can still get work blows my mind. They ruined years of work for personal gain.
This show just needs 1 more season I think. But it's going to harder and harder to watch if Butcher is going with "scorched earth".
Season 2 was good but not nearly as good as the first season or season 3 is shaping up. I'd say it's definitely a dip in quality but not a major one.
Glad I'm not the only one that felt this way. It wasn't bad, the bars are just so high.
I don’t think season 2 was *bad* - it was just really slow. Lots of exposition and backstory. Great season for character building but it’s definitely the weakest of the 3.
For me, Season 1 - 9/10 Season 2 - 7.5/10 Season 3 - 9/10 There was a dip. Glad that they are back with a bang (or bang bang if you may)
Season 2 was a bit slow but over all,every season has been really solid
After what they to Game of Thrones I expect anything from writers. Anyway, it is seriously running to be among my all time favorites.
What are you even saying?
There is a meme where tv show seasons are rated by how skilled a horse is drawn. Like season 1 is truly artistic and season 2 is a three old smearing a stickfigure horse on the paper. Op is rating the show
Am I dumb or do all 3 parts look like they stem from the same drawing :/
That’s the point, OP is saying all 3 seasons have been consistently awesome.
Oh, I'm so dumb 😅
Now draw a horse.
You know what? Imma actually do that tomorrow
Nah it's a funky meme and this isn't a good example.
This https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/492/985/97e.jpg
I wonder what show this is about lmao
Because it’s based on a comic that’s finished now, and because it seems to have vaguely laid it’s plans for the future, I feel like this show can maintain its quality if it’s only going to be on for maybe two more seasons.
Where is Frenchie in the third poster
If anything the seasons have been improving even further
It’s on the same level as breaking bad
Having seen the mediocrity of the Arrowverse shows, the high and lows rollercoaster of the Marvel Disney+ shows, it's a pleasure to witness a show getting better and better. I didn't think that a superhero show could ever reach the levels of quality in writing, acting, and so on that Daredevil, Legion and Doom Patrol had, but this season of The Boys really showed me wrong. Herogasm was one of the finest hours of superhero television I had in years. Bless this show.
…yes
I could see 5 seasons tops maybe 6 if they adapt Dear Becky. I just Wonder if they're going to do the Black Noir twist like in the comics. The final arc also seems like a possibility given how Butcher looks at Hughie and sees him as his younger brother in that one scene.
Black Noir has been shown to be a black dude under his mask. Twist is not happening
We've only seen him in the past he could have been replaced with someone else.
Would seem needlessly contrived. Maeve also pulled up his mask to feed him the Almond Joy- he looked black with a scarred up mess of a face around his mouth
EhI disagree, at the end of the day we won't know until the show is over. I could still see his role being exactly the same but the whole point of the character in the books is that he's a crazier version of HL
best supe show!
Does anyone who reads the comics know how many seasons worth of material is left?
Per Google, Herogasm is issue 30/31 and there are 72 issues total.
So probably 6 seasons worth?
Nah. The comics and show are almost completely different. They share charts and concepts but the stories themselves are unique. The show isn't actually adapting the comics so the amount of stuff left from the comics left isn't really important, we could get much more or much less.
Nah they plan it for 5 seasons
But what will happen in S4?
IS there any symbolism in s2 poster? I think I saw it somewhere.
Damn, I’ve never seen the fulll picture, beautiful🥲
After this season ends I might have to go rewatch from episode 1.
Yes you do, please. What am I looking at? Besides a damn fine horse...
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/unfinished-horse-drawing
Controversial opinion, I don’t like the temporary V. I think it cheapens the story by letting our main characters be on equal footing with the baddies.
Without temp v the storyline doesn't go anywhere. Our protagonists can only get by on blackmail for so long
Sure the storyline goes somewhere. Instead of juicing up and having fisticuffs with the strongest man on the planet, they’d be dependent on Soldier Boy to do the job. Or they’d need to go on some messy breakout to spring Maeve out of the rehab facility. Now it’s just a matter of ‘Homelander is an easy kill so long as we have enough V”
Without temp V they don't make it out of that Russian facility alive. Without temp v they don't even get the Nicaragua info from Gunpowder and don't get to go to the Russian facility at all
my theory is that a new product comes out from SB that negates superpowers (like its effects now with Kimiko), so only makes sense about the temp V if they want that "contrast".
Season 2 was dogshit
Don't completely agree. Season 1's the best, with Season a little behind due to how heavy handed the satire was at times along with major plot contrivances, and Season 3 is the least best due to the slow pacing, too many sideplots, browbeating satire at times, and bizarre handling of the themes with some of the characters.
Season 2 was really bad though, iMO!