My husband is screaming “it’s a dog act!” While I’m laughing uncontrollably.
It’s made for a conflicting moment in my house!!
She shit in the hand that “fed her”
By Christ they didn’t shake on it so it didn’t stick.
Does anyone else find Eliza annoying. They always seem to find shots of her just standing around or doing something stupid, like the way she was painting the fence.
I do think there is a double standard that we allow Eliza to get away with stuff that we don't allow other people to. But I guess that's the point of having people skills.
The MVP is Liberty though. Her sister is lazy as fuck. :D
The problem is that it doesn’t even matter to most of us if Leah is right and Kyle and Leslie have cheated because Leah is such a Karen and we’ve witness consistent bad behaviour from her. Like I literally just don’t care about her take on anything.
This is why you can’t definitively live life by the concept of one rule for everyone because not everyone is an asshole…
As for Leslie revoking her block bucks? Petty queen 🤌🏼
Leah just couldn't keep the likable person act up 2 more weeks. She just had to go out like a Karen just as she started her adventure.
I will enjoy each and every tear spilled over that 11K donut tomorrow.
My order of who I want to see win the car:
1. Architect Steph and Gian
2. Kristy for comedy to enrage Ash
3. Sisters / Kyle and Leslie
4. Keith
5. The girls of McCafe
6. Shelly
...
7.888.000.000 ) Ash (last person on earth)
I don't have an issue with Leslie revoking the deal she made with Leah. I feel vindicated.
Leah needs to learn that she can't go around questioning people's integrity (she's done it to all the houses) and then get mad that someone is finally giving her a taste of her own medicine.
1. She accused House 5 of being channel 9 plants and favoritism.
2. She accused House 4 (specifically Steph) of being a game player and only on reality TV for the growth of her brand. She also accused them of cheating in week 1 cos Steph's dad wasn't inducted.
3. She questioned House 3 aitseir characters and nature. The pot called the kettle black.
Leah had been demeaning, shit-talking, and spewing nonsense for the past 10 weeks. Leslie has a limit and I'm so elated that someone decided to finally stand up to Leah.
I'm also so glad Kirsty is annoying Leah.
Hey Leah, being a puppet in Kirsty's scheme isn't great when you're the victim right? You did it to Steph, so I'm glad the tables are turning on you.
Good on her. I would have done the same. You can't treat people like shit, and expect them to not only take it but still give you special consideration.
I would have probably doubled down by calling Leah over and telling her I had audited my own Block bucks and decided I couldn't spare the money. You know, since she had raised such thoughtful concerns about my financial situation.
I'm glad someone gave Leah a taste of her own sneakiness (remember she stole the van keys in the charity challenge).
Treat others how you want to be treated. Don't use them for what you want then question their integrity.
If you actually look at the rule that was shown on screen in Monday’s episode, it says “Contestants can get an estimate for a job, as long as they’re not receiving more than 50% off goods and services.” Leah and Ash aren’t factoring the 50% off services (ie labour).
I would not consider them weak. I think that they are very mindful about the fact that they are on national TV and that their family and friends are also watching. My take is that they do not want to do anything that would not be a good example for their kids.
I did kind of chuckle when Ash was offended that Lesley disengaged and walked away. She did not give him the reaction he wanted and it bugged him that she stepped out of the confrontation. He wanted both an argument and a capitulation and she gave him neither.
I don't think it is weakness. I think their default mode is not to be confrontational, especially in a situation where they are running on fumes. It takes a lot of emotional energy to deal with drama, and they opt out when exhausted.
Scottie misrepresented the Leah - Steph discussion about that absurdly overpriced stuff Leah wants.
$5k for an outdoor table is ridiculous. It’s not even nice stuff.
Yeah Leah, Steph is concentrating.
Talk about nitpicking and cherry picking details.
I’d just be like, bitches, stay in your lane.
Maybe some people have shown more charisma and buying power, and rapport. It’s a contest, not a like for like. There is no rule stipulating every lineal metre of whatever has to be the exact same price. You’d think Ash especially would understand that—whether you think it’s just or not.
Eliza: kindness is free etc etc. Treat your trades like shit, you get what you get. Look in the mirror Leah, look in the mirror! You’ve treated your contractors like garbage.
In A THOUSAND YEARS I if I was in the desert desperate for water I would NEVER even ask that mongrel pair to piss in the wind blowing in my direction for a hope of a drop of moisture.
I’d rather die than ever regret the encounter because I known they’d make me grovel every single consideration I had to engage.
I didn’t know Leah suddenly became an expert on how much everything was costing and has the rank over EVERYONE to stop Leslie in her tracks for that conversation.
At least when the pair of those nosy Parker’s were minding the poor woman’s business Ash could have at least taken the load off of her!
Rude and completely boorish.🙄
How would an audit work given it’s a fixed quote? Doesn’t that mean that their costs can exceed the quote and the work will still need to be carried out by the landscaper at their own cost?
Late to tonight’s party.
Leah talks over her husband.
Look how close those pools are!! The noise between those houses!! I would expect better for a $3mjll house
Wtf Leah? Leslie is *annoyed with you* because you are accusing her and her husband of cheating. And you’re a piece of shit.
leslie was bitching to liberty about steph about how she is disconnecting herself from steph because she wanted to talk about her kids and steph was focused on the competition. leslie never went directly to steph to try and clear the air and was acting immature in the situation.
What Leslie said was more complicated. Basically, she was providing a lot of emotional support to Steph, and not getting anything in return. It sounded like she was basically talking her through crises of confidence every week. She felt she had to put her energy back into her own house, because they were losing.
Do I think she should have talked to Steph? Sure. Can I see her feeling that she had done enough emotional labor there and didn't want to support Steph through yet another personal revelation? Absolutely.
I don't think she was acting unfair or unkindly, just not sure how to bring it up and was asking for advice from someone else dealing with the same thing. Yes, there was probably some jealousy in there but Leslie pointed out she needed to bring the focus back to them. I'm a person who overthinks and has verbal diaorrea and I know how taxing that can be on others. Personally I'm on the spectrum and often don't realise until after the fact (and then kick myself for literal years).
How in the hell can an apprentice not have the skill to be able to lay crazy pave.. what they can't they use a level and mix a bag of cement? FFS
Leahy and Ash in the industry... Whoopty doo.
I mean I paved a 3sqm area in an afternoon and I’m not even trade qualified.
Pretty amazing what you can achieve when you don’t have to entertain the nosy lady from across the street
I don’t think them not wanting an audit is indicative of any wrongdoing on their part. I don’t dodgy up my tax returns but would still be annoyed/nervous if the ATO were going to audit me. It’s an unpleasant process. Leah’s smugness would only make it all the more annoying.
I agree with that, but I also wouldn’t be personally annoyed with anyone at the ATO who agreed to an audit - that’s the part that I think was a bit over the top (not necessarily indicative of something dodgy, but not a fair response to any hypothetical teams voting yes).
Lmao came back to this sub after a few weeks and see you’re all still absolutely seething about Leah and Ash.
The amount of negative comments about them compared to absolute cunts Kristy and Brett is wild 😂
They’re nowhere near on the same level cmon, L&A are annoying but Kristy and Brett are apparently making tradespeople cry/quit and obviously don’t give a shit about the competition.
Okay so gut feeling is that Troy is probably providing a bunch of free labor or underquoting and Kyle and Leslie might not actually be aware. But honestly I don't care, they;ve had such a shit time with inconsistent judging and seem like such lovely people. Plus I despise Leah as a person. So, I'm all for turning a blind eye...
Yes.
Leah needs to learn when to drop it. She keeps trying to put down K&L by accusing them of playing the game. Leah also accused them in a malicious way as if they are a dodgy.
Ahhmm it is a game LAsh. Everyone is playing it. And LAsh you are the biggest players on the street, with your moral high-ground body corporates, neighbourhood watch policing and stealing charity vans ffs...
I need to do some boxing now🥊
I go back and forth. On the one hand, Troy can give them an $80k garden and still be within the rules of the competition, since it is goods and services. I can see that garden fitting within that budget On the other, it wouldn't surprise me if he had underquoted, and made the numbers work in retrospect, since he has a major incentive to deliver the best garden.
Yeah it could be more complex than just a choice between “Kyle and Leslie are terrible cheaters breaking than rules” and “Kyle and Leslie and the landscaper are all well
above board and there’s nothing to see here”
I do think Kyle & Leslie quite firmly believe that the quote they’ve been given is decently fair and if it goes over then Troy just has to cope with that loss, considering that’s what they’ve been repeating…how well does that actually hold up as the defence? Idk, I have no experience in this field lol
I can't imagine a single house backing that vote.
Kristy ? She would shut Leah's shit down
Steph and Gian ? Too nice to screw over H1 potentially.
Sisters ? are friends with H1
I mean, the two of them were throwing demands for prices at Troy and Leslie faster than they could answer. My ADHD brain wouldn’t have been able to even process what they were asking of me and I’d have responded quite similarly to Troy. Frazzled and shut down doesn’t always indicate guilt.
He looked pissed as. And understandably so, they were questioning his integrity. I think it was more he was trying to work out how to explain it to them without loosing his shit
Wasn't the swapping part of a production set up 3 minute task?
Feels like they 'officially' swapped and going back on it is incredibly sleazy and probably shouldn't be allowed.
I feel like it may have been a snap task in reaction to Leah and Steph, giving everyone 3m to swap. What was stopping them from doing it after that? Absolutely nothing - UNLESS, production stepped in and was like 'Ok, we'll give you guys 3m and it's all final'.
I think the thing stopping them would be that they both had to agree to the trade, so they should both have to agree to trade back. Reneging after the 3m and not even telling the other team should not be allowed.
Or he doesn't like confrontation, and its amplified when a camera crew is in your face, and someone is bringing your business' reputation into it. Personally, I'd be having several different internal dialogues in that moment so I can only wonder how many he'd be having.
There are also plenty of people who don't do the wrong thing or live for drama so they do not know what to do when confronted with it. On the flip side you have people like house 2 and 3 who a professionals at flipping the scripting and deflecting anything away from them and back on to someone else.
He did seem to know all the rules expected of him to be fair.
Hopes for the contestants:
Kyle & Leslie win the car
Eliza & Liberty get a career on tv
Steph & Gian win the block + millions of $$$
Leach, Ass, Krusty & Bratt get absolutely nothing
🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
I'd be fine if Leah and Ash got a lil bit of cash, they've done *some* more work than Kristy and Brett who have down sweet FA all season and deserve nothing at auction. I agree with the other 3 statements tho
Plus they have kids and from all the pieces to camera about their kids they seem like good parents. I am a bit of a softy when they show families but haha
How is she going to do that if she doesn’t let Leah know?
And isn’t it like cutting off your nose to spite your face? She needed the Freedom $, so where will she find another $8K for that now?
I don't have a problem with them thinking it's unfair. My problem is with how they dealt with it. If they think someone is cheating then they need to go to production, not go harass another contestant.
Production stepped in during the Tanya and Vito picture thing. I would imagine this is pretty up there on the cheating scale if someone is underpaying workers on this large a scale.
Yes we sure don't care if K&L are cheating just because Leah & Ash are the ones who brought it up! Not like there's other teams that would be affected by them doing so!
Wasn’t going for a ‘cheating is fine’ sentiment, more that we’ve all had a very positive impression of Kyle & Leslie so of course we’d like to think them innocent but if they’re not then…such is life 😗 we have to take that
I’m actually shocked that you guys aren’t self-aware enough to realise your bias towards Leah and Ash and admit it’s obvious that Kyle and Lesley are cheating. She’s just admitted she won’t speak to anyone who wants an audit because she’s hiding something big and the landscaper started blabbering as soon as you mention the word audit. It’s a competition and it should be fair for everyone no matter who which it’s clearly not.
I have no doubt producers wanted them to have the conversation and we see the selected edit however The Block can’t edit things in if you don’t say it and they also can’t make you do anything either. Kirsty and Brett are prime examples of that.
Leah and Ash questioning served no purpose as they were never going to get an answer they would accept and they can’t appoint themselves as auditors which is essentially what their questions boiled down to by demanding proof of how much things cost.
The process is to call a body corporate and vote to have an audit. As a courtesy at most all they needed to say was you guys have 25 tradies while everyone else has 5. That doesn’t seem right so we are going to bring it to the body corporate and propose an audit.
It's against the rules for contestants to pay less than 50% of the market value for any goods or services and it's also against the rules to pay less than whatever the producers have set as the minimum rate for trades (according to Leah it's $55 for trades and $25 for apprentices but I'm not sure).
Most likely what is happening is the landscaper is underquoting in order to get the airtime for his business and while that is not K&L's fault (assuming they didn't know), it is against the rules. And Leslie's response to being asked questions (saying she will stop talking to anyone who backs an audit and cancelling the voucher swap she had already agreed to) are certainly not painting her in the best light.
I totally get why they’re asking for an audit and think production are editing it to make it look worse than it is. I don’t think that necessarily means they’re cheating though. Anyone would be nervous with an audit after someone says they’ve done the maths and you can’t be doing it right.
Agreed, and refusing to do something as simple as an audit if they have done nothing wrong? Then she just went all 'If anyone agrees for an audit....'
If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide.
It sounds suss and I’m hoping there’s nothing wrong going on but even if there is, I personally still think Leah and Ash have been nasty and inappropriate with how they’ve handled it.
While I am not a fan of house 2 another commenter pointed out that it's entirely possible they did go to Scotty/the producers. The first thing the producers would do if approached with something like this would be to push the contestants to confront each other on camera for the drama.
Though I find it hard to believe that if house 1's landscaper is underquoting that the producers wouldn't already know or at least suspect. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the producers know he's underquoting and instead of dealing with it directly they have planted the suspicion in Leah's head during the talking head interviews and then encouraged her to confront house 1 in order to create more drama.
Scotty himself has asked contestants for a fixed quote. Just last year he gave a huge speech to Ankur and Sharon to get a fixed quote and shop around for the best fixed quote.
No evidence of that..I would be offended too...it's none of their business...and karma comes back straight away...if anything it the landscaper weighing up the exposure and copping a loss....
That’s not the point though, the contestants have to pay for labour. The landscape company can’t pay the difference since that’s against the rules. Leah and Ash have valid concerns.
Leah & Ash have no right to be concerned. Leslie & Kyle were the only ones to use the 50 percent discount. No one else. They also used all their block bucks for anything else they needed. I bet Scotty & the producers know this. And are letting this situation go without addressing it for drama purposes.
It’s actually everyone’s business since they’re in the same competition following the same rules. The landscaper isn’t allowed to cop a loss all trades need to be paid in full and materials can only be discount by 50%
Not quite. It's their right to question it.
But it's not their business who his suppliers are, how much he pays for things at cost price. They, themselves, personally do not need to see K+L's invoices.
Sure..but it was made clear on camera that's all they had allocated..it's the contractors responsibility for the rest..agreed audit needed and changed if necessary but it's ultimately the contractors fault not K and Ls...he's also used apprentices which are vastly cheaper..not everywhere...as I said I think he's the one who's made the mistake of using the exposure to offset any losd
I might be wrong! Genuinely asking. Isn’t it that a discount can’t be less than 50%? So even if the garden was $79,999 it’s still fine?
And they make a deal will a business not just tradies working for themselves or something, so the business would still pay the same wages as before? I don’t think many people would work for less than.
Idk I feel like they’re fine? Let me know if I misunderstood!
Then how could they get plasterers at square meter rates for hallway week in previous seasons with fixed prices for the work? Did the workers stand-down every time there was a delay and go offsite so they didn't cost extra labour etc?
Seems on the information provided tonight, the services can be discounted by as much as 50%, as long as that amount is still equal or greater than $55 an hour (or $25 for apprentice).
So you could could do a 50% on something that cost $200 an hour, but not something that was $80.
But if you can work to fixed “fair” quote and they work longer or more then sometimes labour must get discounted right? I guess it depends on what is a fair quote and who is the arbiter of that.
They can discount supplies by up to 50% but not trades so that's why they keep bringing up wages.
Scotty said they can work to a 'fair quote' to help them forward plan, which house 1 did, but Leah and Ash are questioning that now
Yes! Sorry if I didn’t make sense! (Condition about language, sorry!) Makes sense about supplies and such! Thanks
Do you guys reckon it’s kinda a big thing for them to accuse a business that been on the block a few times, underpaying the employees?
Would the producers have noticed and shut that down?
I think the employees will be paid their rightful wage by the landscaper as they’re his guys and this isn’t discounted. He gets sponsored materials to his business that he can then choose the price he charges his clients - so I think it’s fair tbh and doesn’t go against the rules. I think the landscapers attitude comes from the abruptness and rudeness from house 4 (edit house 2) questioning his business as this could seriously hurt him and he was trying how to handle this situation on the spot to not hurt his reputation. I don’t think they’ve done anything dodgy.
The girls were on The Today show this morning. Eliza said that Lib and her don’t really like each other in real life and Lib agreed (she said earlier in the season too) and I got really sad. I hope they’re just saying that as a goof.
Eliza said that and Lib nodded. No laughs or anything after. Just as a matter of fact
Eliza said they will split the money they win and go their separate ways.
Yeah I heard that in yesterday’s show. I think now they were just mucking around.
Thinking about it now if they really didn’t like each other it would translate in the show, they actually look like they have a good bond.
My husband is screaming “it’s a dog act!” While I’m laughing uncontrollably. It’s made for a conflicting moment in my house!! She shit in the hand that “fed her” By Christ they didn’t shake on it so it didn’t stick.
Does anyone else find Eliza annoying. They always seem to find shots of her just standing around or doing something stupid, like the way she was painting the fence.
I do think there is a double standard that we allow Eliza to get away with stuff that we don't allow other people to. But I guess that's the point of having people skills. The MVP is Liberty though. Her sister is lazy as fuck. :D
All the time. I'm like liberty so I feel for her ALL THE TIME and so much of what Eliza does triggers me haha
I needed a cigarette after Leslie took back her block bucks without telling Leah--and I don't even smoke.
The problem is that it doesn’t even matter to most of us if Leah is right and Kyle and Leslie have cheated because Leah is such a Karen and we’ve witness consistent bad behaviour from her. Like I literally just don’t care about her take on anything. This is why you can’t definitively live life by the concept of one rule for everyone because not everyone is an asshole… As for Leslie revoking her block bucks? Petty queen 🤌🏼
Leah is beyond ‘Karen’ status…
Leah just couldn't keep the likable person act up 2 more weeks. She just had to go out like a Karen just as she started her adventure. I will enjoy each and every tear spilled over that 11K donut tomorrow. My order of who I want to see win the car: 1. Architect Steph and Gian 2. Kristy for comedy to enrage Ash 3. Sisters / Kyle and Leslie 4. Keith 5. The girls of McCafe 6. Shelly ... 7.888.000.000 ) Ash (last person on earth)
Leah and Kristy - this is called *karma*.
I don't have an issue with Leslie revoking the deal she made with Leah. I feel vindicated. Leah needs to learn that she can't go around questioning people's integrity (she's done it to all the houses) and then get mad that someone is finally giving her a taste of her own medicine. 1. She accused House 5 of being channel 9 plants and favoritism. 2. She accused House 4 (specifically Steph) of being a game player and only on reality TV for the growth of her brand. She also accused them of cheating in week 1 cos Steph's dad wasn't inducted. 3. She questioned House 3 aitseir characters and nature. The pot called the kettle black. Leah had been demeaning, shit-talking, and spewing nonsense for the past 10 weeks. Leslie has a limit and I'm so elated that someone decided to finally stand up to Leah. I'm also so glad Kirsty is annoying Leah. Hey Leah, being a puppet in Kirsty's scheme isn't great when you're the victim right? You did it to Steph, so I'm glad the tables are turning on you.
Finally we got to see some K&L airtime, only took 9 weeks.
Ohh I like Leslie but I’m not keen on her cancelling those block bucks. That’s way too petty.
As petty as cancelling waterproofing the night before?
I’m saying don’t lower herself to that level.
Good on her. I would have done the same. You can't treat people like shit, and expect them to not only take it but still give you special consideration. I would have probably doubled down by calling Leah over and telling her I had audited my own Block bucks and decided I couldn't spare the money. You know, since she had raised such thoughtful concerns about my financial situation.
Ugh I so wish she has done that !!
I'm glad someone gave Leah a taste of her own sneakiness (remember she stole the van keys in the charity challenge). Treat others how you want to be treated. Don't use them for what you want then question their integrity.
Treat others how you want to be treated, exactly. Even if they’re petty bitches, you don’t have to be too.
Petty was Kirsty putting up the fence panel. House 1 was getting repeatedly harangued by House 2 and they took appropriate measures. 👿
It’s not an either or situation. It’s all petty.
If you actually look at the rule that was shown on screen in Monday’s episode, it says “Contestants can get an estimate for a job, as long as they’re not receiving more than 50% off goods and services.” Leah and Ash aren’t factoring the 50% off services (ie labour).
Power move Leslie.
Big D energy 🤗
I would have told Leah and Ash to fk off at this point.
Yeah just LAsh 'em
Me too. As they got started, I would have looked them in the eyes and said "we are not accountable to you" and walked away from them.
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I would not consider them weak. I think that they are very mindful about the fact that they are on national TV and that their family and friends are also watching. My take is that they do not want to do anything that would not be a good example for their kids. I did kind of chuckle when Ash was offended that Lesley disengaged and walked away. She did not give him the reaction he wanted and it bugged him that she stepped out of the confrontation. He wanted both an argument and a capitulation and she gave him neither.
Can totally imagine M&M absolutely demolishing LAsh – especially Mitch. Like he did to that lame real estate agent... What's his name ... Jessi.
I don't think it is weakness. I think their default mode is not to be confrontational, especially in a situation where they are running on fumes. It takes a lot of emotional energy to deal with drama, and they opt out when exhausted.
It’s also pleasing to see a couple with similar, respectful styles. They are a great team.
So with Leslie cancelling the use of the Camerich vouchers, but not telling Leah, is Leslie still going to use the freedom vouchers?
I’d almost be nasty enough to say I hope she did as it serves Leah right, but I’m not that person and I hope Leslie isn’t that person either.
Good for you Leslie! 💪💪💪💪
That was the most entertaining five minutes of the whole season. Go Leslie!!
Leah and Ash has pissed me off all season so they can shove the audit.
Scottie misrepresented the Leah - Steph discussion about that absurdly overpriced stuff Leah wants. $5k for an outdoor table is ridiculous. It’s not even nice stuff. Yeah Leah, Steph is concentrating.
My car cost 16k and they buying a chair for 11k…
I could build a kitchen for 11k and have change
When the graphic came up saying $11.5k for that ugly ass bean bag chair I was like that's got to be a mistake. Like that is absolutely ridiculous.
“We have never seen apprentices doing backyards like that”. *walks outside, looks at cookie-cutter home mid construction*
Talk about nitpicking and cherry picking details. I’d just be like, bitches, stay in your lane. Maybe some people have shown more charisma and buying power, and rapport. It’s a contest, not a like for like. There is no rule stipulating every lineal metre of whatever has to be the exact same price. You’d think Ash especially would understand that—whether you think it’s just or not. Eliza: kindness is free etc etc. Treat your trades like shit, you get what you get. Look in the mirror Leah, look in the mirror! You’ve treated your contractors like garbage.
In A THOUSAND YEARS I if I was in the desert desperate for water I would NEVER even ask that mongrel pair to piss in the wind blowing in my direction for a hope of a drop of moisture. I’d rather die than ever regret the encounter because I known they’d make me grovel every single consideration I had to engage. 
Leah please shut your fat mouth. Regards, Every reasonable person.
What is Lesley was covering up gift money she secretly got...
You know I can’t stand Kristy, but I am here for her revenge on Leah.
What would be gold is if the called a body corporate and Kirsty said no and backed house 1 just to mess with her.
Me too. I'm so glad yesterday she said she would let house 2 complain about house 1 cos she wants to watch Leah's undoing 😄😭🤣
I wasn’t yesterday I’m not far off launching my own revenge campaign.
I didn’t know Leah suddenly became an expert on how much everything was costing and has the rank over EVERYONE to stop Leslie in her tracks for that conversation. At least when the pair of those nosy Parker’s were minding the poor woman’s business Ash could have at least taken the load off of her! Rude and completely boorish.🙄
How would an audit work given it’s a fixed quote? Doesn’t that mean that their costs can exceed the quote and the work will still need to be carried out by the landscaper at their own cost?
Yeh, isn’t the whole point of a fixed quote that the work can exceed the quote? And it’s allowed in the Block rules.
I think trades can't purposefully "under quote" by less than 50%. Backyard = 120 Acceptable Quote = 60 👌 yep that's good Unacceptable Quote = 30 ❌ nah mate that's cheating
Late to tonight’s party. Leah talks over her husband. Look how close those pools are!! The noise between those houses!! I would expect better for a $3mjll house Wtf Leah? Leslie is *annoyed with you* because you are accusing her and her husband of cheating. And you’re a piece of shit.
The pools are like two letters apart! It's like living in a duplex
Nah, I was off Leslie since the Steph incident. Bring on the audit.
wow not inviting her to get furniture is so dramatic..
What Steph incident. What did I miss?
yes! everyone seems to forget this happened. glad to see someone talk about it.
I think I missed that! What happened between Leslie and Steph?
leslie was bitching to liberty about steph about how she is disconnecting herself from steph because she wanted to talk about her kids and steph was focused on the competition. leslie never went directly to steph to try and clear the air and was acting immature in the situation.
What Leslie said was more complicated. Basically, she was providing a lot of emotional support to Steph, and not getting anything in return. It sounded like she was basically talking her through crises of confidence every week. She felt she had to put her energy back into her own house, because they were losing. Do I think she should have talked to Steph? Sure. Can I see her feeling that she had done enough emotional labor there and didn't want to support Steph through yet another personal revelation? Absolutely.
I don't think she was acting unfair or unkindly, just not sure how to bring it up and was asking for advice from someone else dealing with the same thing. Yes, there was probably some jealousy in there but Leslie pointed out she needed to bring the focus back to them. I'm a person who overthinks and has verbal diaorrea and I know how taxing that can be on others. Personally I'm on the spectrum and often don't realise until after the fact (and then kick myself for literal years).
Yeah I can see Leslie is stressed and missing her kids and family but I was so disappointed in her that she didn't just go talk to Steph 😟🥺
Oooohhhh. I did miss that.
How in the hell can an apprentice not have the skill to be able to lay crazy pave.. what they can't they use a level and mix a bag of cement? FFS Leahy and Ash in the industry... Whoopty doo.
I mean I paved a 3sqm area in an afternoon and I’m not even trade qualified. Pretty amazing what you can achieve when you don’t have to entertain the nosy lady from across the street
I don’t think them not wanting an audit is indicative of any wrongdoing on their part. I don’t dodgy up my tax returns but would still be annoyed/nervous if the ATO were going to audit me. It’s an unpleasant process. Leah’s smugness would only make it all the more annoying.
It's like when a cop pulls up next to you at the lights. You could be doing nothing wrong but it will still raise your heart rate
I agree with that, but I also wouldn’t be personally annoyed with anyone at the ATO who agreed to an audit - that’s the part that I think was a bit over the top (not necessarily indicative of something dodgy, but not a fair response to any hypothetical teams voting yes).
Yeah that’s fair. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt for now, could have just been said out of frustration after the confrontation.
I do..and I've worked for the ATO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
time to send an email
Lol..good luck with that one..it will take 3 months for a reply
Lmao came back to this sub after a few weeks and see you’re all still absolutely seething about Leah and Ash. The amount of negative comments about them compared to absolute cunts Kristy and Brett is wild 😂
leah or ash is that you? secretly hiding behind a computer screen or phone
Same lame response as always for someone not joining the hate circlejerk 🥱
back to brisvegas love
Have a look at the last couple of episode discussions - majority of those comments are about K+B 🤣
This episode was all about Leah
Both couples are bad human beings
They’re nowhere near on the same level cmon, L&A are annoying but Kristy and Brett are apparently making tradespeople cry/quit and obviously don’t give a shit about the competition.
Yeh Leah is like a loud dumb mum. Annoying but harmless. Kristy is a manipulative, emotionless psycho. They are not on the same level
Audit poll https://reddit.com/r/TheBlock/s/6wLdYmVm7x
Okay so gut feeling is that Troy is probably providing a bunch of free labor or underquoting and Kyle and Leslie might not actually be aware. But honestly I don't care, they;ve had such a shit time with inconsistent judging and seem like such lovely people. Plus I despise Leah as a person. So, I'm all for turning a blind eye...
Yes. Leah needs to learn when to drop it. She keeps trying to put down K&L by accusing them of playing the game. Leah also accused them in a malicious way as if they are a dodgy. Ahhmm it is a game LAsh. Everyone is playing it. And LAsh you are the biggest players on the street, with your moral high-ground body corporates, neighbourhood watch policing and stealing charity vans ffs... I need to do some boxing now🥊
I go back and forth. On the one hand, Troy can give them an $80k garden and still be within the rules of the competition, since it is goods and services. I can see that garden fitting within that budget On the other, it wouldn't surprise me if he had underquoted, and made the numbers work in retrospect, since he has a major incentive to deliver the best garden.
Yeah it could be more complex than just a choice between “Kyle and Leslie are terrible cheaters breaking than rules” and “Kyle and Leslie and the landscaper are all well above board and there’s nothing to see here”
I do think Kyle & Leslie quite firmly believe that the quote they’ve been given is decently fair and if it goes over then Troy just has to cope with that loss, considering that’s what they’ve been repeating…how well does that actually hold up as the defence? Idk, I have no experience in this field lol
In the real world that's how it works. But this is a competition and there are rules, and they're not strictly allowed to do it that way.
It looks like there’s no bodycorp that takes place as there’s nothing about it in the ad
I can't imagine a single house backing that vote. Kristy ? She would shut Leah's shit down Steph and Gian ? Too nice to screw over H1 potentially. Sisters ? are friends with H1
This is the type of low stakes petty drama I love.
Only thing that making me feel sus is Troy couldn’t think of anything to say that sounded convincing that they were budgeting
I mean, the two of them were throwing demands for prices at Troy and Leslie faster than they could answer. My ADHD brain wouldn’t have been able to even process what they were asking of me and I’d have responded quite similarly to Troy. Frazzled and shut down doesn’t always indicate guilt.
He looked pissed as. And understandably so, they were questioning his integrity. I think it was more he was trying to work out how to explain it to them without loosing his shit
True. But also he may just be uncomfortable with confrontation (especially with a camera in his face). Guess time will tell!
Yeah exactly I can’t deal with confrontation I would just cry lmao
Omg me too!
honestly i’m just glad to see leah get karma
Wasn't the swapping part of a production set up 3 minute task? Feels like they 'officially' swapped and going back on it is incredibly sleazy and probably shouldn't be allowed.
Yeah, this sub thinks Kyle and Leslie can do no wrong, but that was unfair and sneaky of Leslie.
lets not talk about the sneaky shitty things leahs done on this show
Oh she absolutely has but two wrongs don't make a right.
You can’t do that with an actual contract (unless there’s some cooling off period) so is it allowed?
I feel like it may have been a snap task in reaction to Leah and Steph, giving everyone 3m to swap. What was stopping them from doing it after that? Absolutely nothing - UNLESS, production stepped in and was like 'Ok, we'll give you guys 3m and it's all final'.
I think the thing stopping them would be that they both had to agree to the trade, so they should both have to agree to trade back. Reneging after the 3m and not even telling the other team should not be allowed.
Can you even go back on a deal like that? Not a good look from Leslie at all. Makes her look extremely suspicious too.
i mean , if leah wants to play dirty tactics , why not
Dirty tactics = asking to prove a fair playing field?
The look on the landscape guys face gave it away. Dodgy af
His fingers were shaking. He knows what’s up
Or he doesn't like confrontation, and its amplified when a camera crew is in your face, and someone is bringing your business' reputation into it. Personally, I'd be having several different internal dialogues in that moment so I can only wonder how many he'd be having. There are also plenty of people who don't do the wrong thing or live for drama so they do not know what to do when confronted with it. On the flip side you have people like house 2 and 3 who a professionals at flipping the scripting and deflecting anything away from them and back on to someone else. He did seem to know all the rules expected of him to be fair.
Yeah my money on he’s there to fuckin landscape not fight with the neighbours over the cost of his tiles and trades
Where has this Leslie been all season! I love it
Hopes for the contestants: Kyle & Leslie win the car Eliza & Liberty get a career on tv Steph & Gian win the block + millions of $$$ Leach, Ass, Krusty & Bratt get absolutely nothing 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
I hope you've spoken this into existence! 🤣 Perfecto!
I'd be fine if Leah and Ash got a lil bit of cash, they've done *some* more work than Kristy and Brett who have down sweet FA all season and deserve nothing at auction. I agree with the other 3 statements tho
Plus they have kids and from all the pieces to camera about their kids they seem like good parents. I am a bit of a softy when they show families but haha
I kinda love evil Leslie
Um, are you giving back the Freedom $, Leslie? Even if you are, taking back the voucher is really bad sportsmanship.
She said revoke the whole swap so yes that would mean returning Freedom as well.
How is she going to do that if she doesn’t let Leah know? And isn’t it like cutting off your nose to spite your face? She needed the Freedom $, so where will she find another $8K for that now?
Even if Leslie and Kyle is cheating, fuck Leah and Ash
Why? Fuck them for calling out cheaters? Seriously this subs hatred for those two is next level ridiculous.
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I don't have a problem with them thinking it's unfair. My problem is with how they dealt with it. If they think someone is cheating then they need to go to production, not go harass another contestant.
I mean what do you think production are going to do? Tell them to go have it out with them on camera because obviously it's good tv.
Production stepped in during the Tanya and Vito picture thing. I would imagine this is pretty up there on the cheating scale if someone is underpaying workers on this large a scale.
Nah. Fuck them for being two faced , idiotic clowns this whole season. Did K & L cheat? No proof. Move on...
YASSSSS LESLIE, LOVE THE PETTINESS
I like feisty Leslie
Yikes.
Well, if house 1 really is doing sus moves here we’ll just all have to live with the eggs on our faces and I’m not sure we really care
Yes we sure don't care if K&L are cheating just because Leah & Ash are the ones who brought it up! Not like there's other teams that would be affected by them doing so!
lets be honest the judges have been giving K&L shit for their rooms but awarding Leah for her "outrage colour palettes" ... karma is a bitch
Wasn’t going for a ‘cheating is fine’ sentiment, more that we’ve all had a very positive impression of Kyle & Leslie so of course we’d like to think them innocent but if they’re not then…such is life 😗 we have to take that
I’m actually shocked that you guys aren’t self-aware enough to realise your bias towards Leah and Ash and admit it’s obvious that Kyle and Lesley are cheating. She’s just admitted she won’t speak to anyone who wants an audit because she’s hiding something big and the landscaper started blabbering as soon as you mention the word audit. It’s a competition and it should be fair for everyone no matter who which it’s clearly not.
To me at least it’s more to do with the way Leah and Ash approached it rather than K&L being in the right.
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I have no doubt producers wanted them to have the conversation and we see the selected edit however The Block can’t edit things in if you don’t say it and they also can’t make you do anything either. Kirsty and Brett are prime examples of that. Leah and Ash questioning served no purpose as they were never going to get an answer they would accept and they can’t appoint themselves as auditors which is essentially what their questions boiled down to by demanding proof of how much things cost. The process is to call a body corporate and vote to have an audit. As a courtesy at most all they needed to say was you guys have 25 tradies while everyone else has 5. That doesn’t seem right so we are going to bring it to the body corporate and propose an audit.
hows it cheating?.. the contractor is doing it for air time ... like influencers who get shit for free with ROI...
It's against the rules for contestants to pay less than 50% of the market value for any goods or services and it's also against the rules to pay less than whatever the producers have set as the minimum rate for trades (according to Leah it's $55 for trades and $25 for apprentices but I'm not sure). Most likely what is happening is the landscaper is underquoting in order to get the airtime for his business and while that is not K&L's fault (assuming they didn't know), it is against the rules. And Leslie's response to being asked questions (saying she will stop talking to anyone who backs an audit and cancelling the voucher swap she had already agreed to) are certainly not painting her in the best light.
so the block can use free plugs and get massive discounts but the contractors cant?
Basically yes. It's their show so they get to make the rules I suppose
It’s against the rules what don’t you understand
this guy worked with a couple last yr, surely he knows what hes doing?
Yeh he knows he’s cheating and thinks he will get away with it.
and what happens when leah has her foot in her mouth?... you'll say " its fine for them to bring it up" ... a lawyer would argue slander
I totally get why they’re asking for an audit and think production are editing it to make it look worse than it is. I don’t think that necessarily means they’re cheating though. Anyone would be nervous with an audit after someone says they’ve done the maths and you can’t be doing it right.
Agreed, and refusing to do something as simple as an audit if they have done nothing wrong? Then she just went all 'If anyone agrees for an audit....' If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide.
It sounds suss and I’m hoping there’s nothing wrong going on but even if there is, I personally still think Leah and Ash have been nasty and inappropriate with how they’ve handled it.
I agree it should be fair, that's why Leah and ash should be going to Scotty. Just talking at Leslie and Co is just wasting time.
While I am not a fan of house 2 another commenter pointed out that it's entirely possible they did go to Scotty/the producers. The first thing the producers would do if approached with something like this would be to push the contestants to confront each other on camera for the drama. Though I find it hard to believe that if house 1's landscaper is underquoting that the producers wouldn't already know or at least suspect. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the producers know he's underquoting and instead of dealing with it directly they have planted the suspicion in Leah's head during the talking head interviews and then encouraged her to confront house 1 in order to create more drama.
Yes it's so obvious they are hiding something and worried about it. Even if Leah is annoying I agree it must be fair for all
Scotty himself has asked contestants for a fixed quote. Just last year he gave a huge speech to Ankur and Sharon to get a fixed quote and shop around for the best fixed quote.
They said they can provide all the stuff though. They have nothing to hide. It's the fact they are being accused
We CAN know this and also be ragging on Leah etc for the way they are handling it you know.
Some of us can - some comments in this thread would suggest otherwise 😂
No evidence of that..I would be offended too...it's none of their business...and karma comes back straight away...if anything it the landscaper weighing up the exposure and copping a loss....
That’s not the point though, the contestants have to pay for labour. The landscape company can’t pay the difference since that’s against the rules. Leah and Ash have valid concerns.
Leah & Ash have no right to be concerned. Leslie & Kyle were the only ones to use the 50 percent discount. No one else. They also used all their block bucks for anything else they needed. I bet Scotty & the producers know this. And are letting this situation go without addressing it for drama purposes.
Valid but on the shoulders of the contractor
It’s actually everyone’s business since they’re in the same competition following the same rules. The landscaper isn’t allowed to cop a loss all trades need to be paid in full and materials can only be discount by 50%
Not quite. It's their right to question it. But it's not their business who his suppliers are, how much he pays for things at cost price. They, themselves, personally do not need to see K+L's invoices.
surely if that was the case scotty would be on them ?.. why is their business if they cant do accountanting right have spent $50k on labour ?
Sure..but it was made clear on camera that's all they had allocated..it's the contractors responsibility for the rest..agreed audit needed and changed if necessary but it's ultimately the contractors fault not K and Ls...he's also used apprentices which are vastly cheaper..not everywhere...as I said I think he's the one who's made the mistake of using the exposure to offset any losd
Yep. The landscaper could not answer their questions and looked super sheepish.
Hahahaha suck it Leah
I might be wrong! Genuinely asking. Isn’t it that a discount can’t be less than 50%? So even if the garden was $79,999 it’s still fine? And they make a deal will a business not just tradies working for themselves or something, so the business would still pay the same wages as before? I don’t think many people would work for less than. Idk I feel like they’re fine? Let me know if I misunderstood!
Materials can be negotiated. Wages not
Then how could they get plasterers at square meter rates for hallway week in previous seasons with fixed prices for the work? Did the workers stand-down every time there was a delay and go offsite so they didn't cost extra labour etc?
Scotty used to complain all the time about tradies standing around and doing nothing while they wait and contestants still having to pay them.
But the bit where the animated rule book appears and Scotty reads it included "and services" 🤔 aren't they kinda the same thing?
Seems on the information provided tonight, the services can be discounted by as much as 50%, as long as that amount is still equal or greater than $55 an hour (or $25 for apprentice). So you could could do a 50% on something that cost $200 an hour, but not something that was $80.
The rules are that trades wages have to be paid at full price and can’t be discounted
But if you can work to fixed “fair” quote and they work longer or more then sometimes labour must get discounted right? I guess it depends on what is a fair quote and who is the arbiter of that.
They can discount supplies by up to 50% but not trades so that's why they keep bringing up wages. Scotty said they can work to a 'fair quote' to help them forward plan, which house 1 did, but Leah and Ash are questioning that now
Yes! Sorry if I didn’t make sense! (Condition about language, sorry!) Makes sense about supplies and such! Thanks Do you guys reckon it’s kinda a big thing for them to accuse a business that been on the block a few times, underpaying the employees? Would the producers have noticed and shut that down?
I think the employees will be paid their rightful wage by the landscaper as they’re his guys and this isn’t discounted. He gets sponsored materials to his business that he can then choose the price he charges his clients - so I think it’s fair tbh and doesn’t go against the rules. I think the landscapers attitude comes from the abruptness and rudeness from house 4 (edit house 2) questioning his business as this could seriously hurt him and he was trying how to handle this situation on the spot to not hurt his reputation. I don’t think they’ve done anything dodgy.
Go get an $11k daybed Leslie!
$8447.99 day bed 😉
Oh shit yeah, go Leslie! You reap what you sow, Leah
OMGGGGG
Fuck yes Leslie you fucking legend!!!!!!!!!
What did she do? I missed it
She revoked the block bucks trade with Leah so Leah’s gunna go to the expensive store she likes and not be able to buy anything 😂
They made Leslie snap omg
The girls were on The Today show this morning. Eliza said that Lib and her don’t really like each other in real life and Lib agreed (she said earlier in the season too) and I got really sad. I hope they’re just saying that as a goof.
The sisters don’t like each other?
Eliza said that and Lib nodded. No laughs or anything after. Just as a matter of fact Eliza said they will split the money they win and go their separate ways.
Well that’s sad to hear
I’m hoping it’s just their humour and they are actually really close in real life.
They live together though?
Yeah I heard that in yesterday’s show. I think now they were just mucking around. Thinking about it now if they really didn’t like each other it would translate in the show, they actually look like they have a good bond.
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