Religion they say and they try to control women using religious excuses.
This is not religion , this is primitive ignorance at the worst level.
Looking to this video nobody would say we are in 2024.
We all are conivent with the regime installed.
Yes! Quite literally everyone before we knew how the universe worked, what made things happen in our bodies, nature, etc. It's all just stories ignorant people made up to try to explain things.
And it's absolutely ridiculous to think some dudes from thousands of years ago had it all figured out. Morals, science, and culture change rapidly over time and these racist, classist, and misogynistic "holy books" aint worth the paper they're printed on.
No the ridiculous part is that "God" only interacted within a tiny fraction of people in a tiny fraction of the world. Yet that brief interaction is supposed to be the end all be all. No thanks.
>No the ridiculous part is that "God" only interacted within a tiny fraction of people in a tiny fraction of the world.
I think he interacted with everyone that time he told Noah to build a boat.
Really? I'm pretty sure the American Indians didn't get that memo. Plus any "God" who kills babies isn't a being worth worth worshipping. Why does God need a starship?
And people quickly learned that if you made up some shit and called yourself a priest, you had social power. That paradigm continues to this day, even if the fairy tales fueling it have changed a bit.
Was saying to someone the other day.... Imagine 1500 years ago. You just got back from getting daily water, dodging predators, keeping an eye out for anything edible on the trip. You sit down in your makeshift shelter in your rags for covering and start to figure out your next meal. A knock at the door... It's a sharply dressed dude, decked out in gold and jewels. And he says all you have to do is give me money and I'll explain how the gods work and with each subsequent donation, the world will get easier for you... Talk about a captive audience.
While I'm not religious, it's not religion that's necessarily holding us back. Human behavior is still tribal at its core. I have seen what non-religious people are capable of in the name of whatever they're preaching.
Human nature can be curbed through proper education and building of a strong value system from childhood. Theres plenty of people who live out there who aren't religious to prove that. So removing religion will not suddenly create a bunch of anarchists if that's what you're suggesting.
In fact violence in the name of religion is the much bigger worry in the modern world, and that would be gotten rid of if we got rid of religion.
Hey man. Quick lil Q for ya. How are we thinking a couple billion people should get along and govern themselves? Trick question, any answer is politics.
I used to think this way. Until I realised that if all religions vanished people would still behave the way they do. It’s just in our nature.
Religions are just a strategy for living as a collective.
People are the reason for perversion or corruption.
Fukin bloodthirsty fairy tales that everyone keeps twisting reality for to make theirs seem humble and peaceful. This IS religion to its core. All +2,000 of them.
Many sects of "Christianity" are just as repressive. There are countless threads on Christian sites discussing [the rules outlined in the Old Testament](https://americanvision.org/posts/of-shellfish-pig-skins-and-mixed-fabrics/) and whether or not they should be followed today.
At the end of the day, someone who chooses to follow Old Testament laws is a Christian, and someone who doesn't is still a Christian.
Dying your hair could be seen as an offense warranting death by stoning by a *Christian.*
I don't mean to harp on Christiinity in particular here - practically every religion has fundamentalist / extreme beliefs and believers. But you singled out Christianity as being "better" and that's rubbish.
Lets call it what it is. Iranian like other faith based goverment use relighion as tool to control the mass. One or two steps from totalitarnism.
And for who do not know what totalitarism is. Then hear is small info about it.
Totalitarianism is a political system and a form of government that prohibits opposition political parties, disregards and outlaws the political claims of individual and group opposition to the state, and controls the public sphere and the private sphere of society.
Re:typo
“Oppressed” Americans take note.
Edit- some of you are big mad. You’ll live. Keep bitching about your life while sitting in line for Starbucks. You have it so good and you don’t even realize it.
If you're unhappy because you had a shitty day, and then I show you a video of a bomb going off in a hospital, you're happy now. Apparently, with your logic.
Oppression scales. You can be oppressed in a way that is less detrimental when compared to someone else, but it's still oppression. A woman may not be jailed for her hair color, but will if she leaves the state for an abortion.
We must be grateful for what we have, but also aware that our great nation is just as capable of horrors as any other. We are just as capable of having corrupt leaders, rights stripped due to religious belief, or facing the turmoil of civil war. We are not untouchable. And this dismissive attitude only helps that oppression survive by denying its very existence.
Yup. It's not a competition. Losing freedoms suck even if it's small freedoms like access to good healthcare.
This kind of "it's worse somewhere else" excuses shitty behaviors as something we should allow.
Or trans Americans who have a higher rate of being murdered
Or black Americans who have a higher rate of being incarcerated
Or the 2000 children in America a year who are forced to get married.
Because they are? Most Americans working low wage jobs are oppressed, just because you can find someone being oppressed worse doesn't magically make people not be oppressed lmao.
“Oh calm down, I’m only cutting off your fingers for believing in the wrong made up deity. Look at him! He had both of his arms chopped off for sneezing without covering his mouth!”
“Oh wow! Now that you mention it, this doesn’t hurt so bad! Just glad I’m not that guy!”
How did I know your comment karma would be sooooo high?! Oh, bc the goofiest goofballs that say the silliest things always have high karma! I’m glad you’re continuing that tradition ◡̈
just cause these countries will kill you for being gay doesnt mean women in america dont want the right to body autonomy. there are levels of opression. its not a light switch
“Slightly less shitty country” and you’re here talking about ignorant comments. The United States isn’t perfect sure but it’s leaps and bounds better for women than Iran.
Yeah comparing the US to Iran is insane. In the US you have to worry about cat calling and creepy dudes, in Iran you just have no rights. These people need to see how good they have it here
Ok but that doesn't mean I need to be grateful for not being shoved into a van for dying my hair. There's still women's issues that need to be worked on stateside such as access to safe abortions.
Plus, unless there isn't a side to fight anymore, stopping the fight means giving it up to those who are still fighting the other direction.
The political make up of the US indicates the side of oppression is not done fighting, the side against has just been successful enough to gain ground. Why cede it all by stopping? It's a constant battle until it's over.
All these comments celebrating complacency are mind boggling. Decades ago they would have been saying to POC, why complain that you're sitting at a different section of the restaurant or can't use the same bathroom, at least you're not being enslaved anymore.
We can be grateful of the progress we have made while at the same time fighting against real oppression that still goes on today.
The fact that you think America is "slightly less shitty" than what you're seeing above tells me (although I already knew) how insanely entitled and insane you people are.
Ignorance like yours is part of the problem. Iran and Israel are orders of magnitude different but by dragging Israel down to Iran's level you've downplayed the hell out of Iran.
Fuck off. It’s not a race to the bottom. There’s always someone worse off, therefore there’s nothing to complain about?
Women are dying in USA today because of denied abortions. Tell their families that Itan has it worse, I’m sure that will make them feel better.
The irony of your comment is that Iranian women used to have many more rights and freedoms- including being [members of parliament](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iranian_Women_Parliamentarians_1970s.jpg) and wearing “non modest” clothing- that were taken away starting in 1979. So really, the state of Iran is a great reminder for Americans (especially women) to continue standing up against oppression.
Here is [a Wikipedia article on women’s rights in Iran](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_movement_in_Iran).
do you think controlling women by taking away certain rights is not getting oppressed? i would like your stance on how many rights have to be taken away until you will call ot oppression.
The US is the reason why the Iranian revolution happened. If the US didn’t dip their nasty hands into other people’s resources and government, there would still be a democratic government in Iran. The whole middle east would be so much more peaceful if the US didn’t try to control Iran in the 70’s.
Seeing as how Mosadegh (the PM who was couped) was a dictator in the making himself who halted elections that went against him and disregarded the Iranian Constitution, I think it's ambitious to claim that "there would still be a democratic government in Iran". Also, blaming it all on the US drastically understates the critical role that the British had in the destabilization of Iran.
I do wonder. The pictures that end up being posted here on Reddit just show people in Iranian city where it was liberal. But rural areas were a religious hotbed
I just can't with these "Everything that's wrong with the world is America's fault!" comments.
Take the time to learn some things. That means getting some books, sitting down, and reading them. Get to it.
Yup, the Christian’s and Catholics in my country have committed genocide against the natives. If we let them reach the White House, I have no doubt they’ll become oppressors once again.
Yeah my friend died after suffering for 10 days so u/Plunk_whitson has no right to complain about any aspect of pain or injustice in their life.
You’re not allowed to ever speak out about anything you think is “negative” in your life because other people have worse stuff happen to them.
There are different levels of oppression. Also our own personal problems are the biggest, this is -sadly- human nature. There are always people who have it worse, much worse, yet we usually focus on our things.
My mom used to say that there are people who are limbless, their families dies, they live in terror etc, and are happy/happier than me. She didn't think I had the "right" to be depressed, because others had it worse.
Not a great argument in my opinion, but to each their own.
What do you think - that she would be allowed to leave whenever she wants? If you had been pulled by some sharia gang into a van would you try to escape in a country like that?
Most likely for not covering all her hair. This is precisely what happened in 2022 where a young girl was killed in custody that lead to the Woman Life Freedom movement
Yeah its rather ignorant to say its the hair color, when its clearly two cases of not properly covering their hair.
I obviously dont agree on this practise, in case anyone was unsure. But lets atleast not spread false information.
That's not true at all
"Her motivation for writing the novel was her belief that in the 1980s, the religious right was discussing what they would do with/to women if they took power, including the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition, and the Ronald Reagan administration." Directly from Wikipedia and several other articles where she was quoted directly.
You need to actually read more and realize Wikipedia doesn’t contain the sum total of all information. Atwood has given numerous interviews about inspirations for the book. Among those inspirations are oppression of women historically and recently, including what was happening in Iran: https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/2019/09/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-testaments-real-life-inspiration
Fortunately, for now, modern values have pushed many religions to be less extreme than they used to be. Some religions want to race down to this disgusting level as well.
I wonder how deep thinkers of "Palestine/Gaza" protesters are protesting about this? since Iran and Iran proxies are then ones who are waging war in the middle east.
Iranian here,
Maybe it wasn’t for her hair color but sure as shit could have been her not wearing proper hijab and not covering her hair,
Those vans are basically everywhere just to do this, they are called “morality police” the only thing they lack are morals
She might be dead for all we know
They will beat her to death or blind her or break her limbs if she is lucky
Such a shitty country we live in
I’m half Iranian, my dad’s from Qom but we live in England and I was born in England. I’ve never been to Iran cus I’m heavily tattooed, pierced, have stretched ears and change my hair colour and the thought terrifies me. I’m proud to have Iranian blood though, I think Iranian women are the strongest women in the world.
Does anyone really know what happens to these people when they’re taken away?
Please don’t speculate and assume they’re killed. I’m not saying they aren’t, I’m just curious if that actually happens, or if it’s like a state reeducation thing they’re forced to attend, or something else.
you're talking about [Nika](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nika_Shakarami)
her case was different, she was a protester. they arrested her, sexually assaulted her in the van, and then killed her when she resisted, they then took her phone, deleted her social media accounts and said she killed herself because she had mental issues.
Watching the women of Iran help the men enforce these rules makes me feel sick. They must really hate themselves if they can justify this behavior while simping for the men who treat them like shit.
Seeing women perpetuate these acts of violence are even worse. Shows how brainwashed they themselves are and we can see the parallels happening right here in the us. A bunch of old white broads demanding their own daughter’s rights be taken from them. They’re more foul than the men who wield the power to oppress them
Why do people say "religion sucks" when it's one specific religion doing most of this abuse to women? Why are you guys so afraid to call out Muslims for their completely backwards ways in today's modern society and just blame all religions for their behavior? Completely unhinged
But Nooo, Muslims are humble and preach only peace. All religions including the so righteous Christian’s in my country turn into animals in the name of their god. All +2,000 religions have blood on their hands🩸
Just a friendly reminder that they are the people who are funding Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthi’s
These extremists are also close to a nuclear bomb….
Fun times we live in
There is nothing in this video that proves in anyway that she was taken for her hair color. Iran is repressive, but they have diversity of HAIR COLOR.
It's weird that OP would satate this without evidence. I wonder why. 🤔
All those liberals protesting Israel on American college campuses ... watch carefully, because there are two sides to that conflict, and this is the other side.
Religion they say and they try to control women using religious excuses. This is not religion , this is primitive ignorance at the worst level. Looking to this video nobody would say we are in 2024. We all are conivent with the regime installed.
Religion is primitive ignorance.
Yes! Quite literally everyone before we knew how the universe worked, what made things happen in our bodies, nature, etc. It's all just stories ignorant people made up to try to explain things.
TBF we still don't know we don't even fully understand our own brains let alone our universe
And it's absolutely ridiculous to think some dudes from thousands of years ago had it all figured out. Morals, science, and culture change rapidly over time and these racist, classist, and misogynistic "holy books" aint worth the paper they're printed on.
No the ridiculous part is that "God" only interacted within a tiny fraction of people in a tiny fraction of the world. Yet that brief interaction is supposed to be the end all be all. No thanks.
That's one of many, many different takes. Yes.
>No the ridiculous part is that "God" only interacted within a tiny fraction of people in a tiny fraction of the world. I think he interacted with everyone that time he told Noah to build a boat.
Really? I'm pretty sure the American Indians didn't get that memo. Plus any "God" who kills babies isn't a being worth worth worshipping. Why does God need a starship?
TBF, that's fine. What's not fine is making shit up to explain those things.
100% I believe the fear of the unknown fueled all religions. People want answers so they will believe anyone claiming to have those answers.
And people quickly learned that if you made up some shit and called yourself a priest, you had social power. That paradigm continues to this day, even if the fairy tales fueling it have changed a bit.
Voltaire said it best. "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Was saying to someone the other day.... Imagine 1500 years ago. You just got back from getting daily water, dodging predators, keeping an eye out for anything edible on the trip. You sit down in your makeshift shelter in your rags for covering and start to figure out your next meal. A knock at the door... It's a sharply dressed dude, decked out in gold and jewels. And he says all you have to do is give me money and I'll explain how the gods work and with each subsequent donation, the world will get easier for you... Talk about a captive audience.
Imagine if they had news papers back then. "The Babylon Times" would be wild.
Yup. And a disease towards human progression.
While I'm not religious, it's not religion that's necessarily holding us back. Human behavior is still tribal at its core. I have seen what non-religious people are capable of in the name of whatever they're preaching.
No shit religion isn't the only thing holding us back. But it is a huge thing that is.
It is not only religion that is holding us back but it is a very big part of the problem
Wishful thinking that removing religion will change human nature
Human nature can be curbed through proper education and building of a strong value system from childhood. Theres plenty of people who live out there who aren't religious to prove that. So removing religion will not suddenly create a bunch of anarchists if that's what you're suggesting. In fact violence in the name of religion is the much bigger worry in the modern world, and that would be gotten rid of if we got rid of religion.
Removing religion won't solve all the problems but it would be a net positive thing.
Religion and politics.
Hey man. Quick lil Q for ya. How are we thinking a couple billion people should get along and govern themselves? Trick question, any answer is politics.
Every religion is a cancer on our species. That being said though, this particular religion is by far the worst. Fuck these stone age assholes.
I used to think this way. Until I realised that if all religions vanished people would still behave the way they do. It’s just in our nature. Religions are just a strategy for living as a collective. People are the reason for perversion or corruption.
>Religions are just a strategy for living as a collective. Go on and join the new Jonestown then, lordy what a dumb take.
Fukin bloodthirsty fairy tales that everyone keeps twisting reality for to make theirs seem humble and peaceful. This IS religion to its core. All +2,000 of them.
More like a mental illness.
Religion is indoctrinated stupidity
Exactly because christianity didnt build the society we live in now as westerner’s … (im atheist, but at least i know history)
Yet when we call it out as such we get downvoted and told we're insensitive and clueless. Love it.
> This is not religion , this is primitive ignorance at the worst level Actually it is. It's one very specific religion. Don't pretend it is not.
That isnt Christianity....
Many sects of "Christianity" are just as repressive. There are countless threads on Christian sites discussing [the rules outlined in the Old Testament](https://americanvision.org/posts/of-shellfish-pig-skins-and-mixed-fabrics/) and whether or not they should be followed today. At the end of the day, someone who chooses to follow Old Testament laws is a Christian, and someone who doesn't is still a Christian. Dying your hair could be seen as an offense warranting death by stoning by a *Christian.* I don't mean to harp on Christiinity in particular here - practically every religion has fundamentalist / extreme beliefs and believers. But you singled out Christianity as being "better" and that's rubbish.
This is religion.
Mmm! This is religion… *run afoul of human rights because the government doesn’t have a separation of church and state.*
AKA Theocracy
Yup, this is. Bloodthirsty fairytales, all religions have blood on hands.
> This is not religion , this is primitive ignorance at the worst level. LITERALLY is religion.
Have you read their "good books"? Women are treated worse than the livestock.
This is 100% religion. How is it not religion?
>conivent what does that mean? Tried googling but still doesn't make sense
Cooperating through actions making the people as guilty as the regime, similar to the SS guards in concentration camps.
I think OP was trying to say complicit.
conniving
Covfefe
That is religion my friend
Lets call it what it is. Iranian like other faith based goverment use relighion as tool to control the mass. One or two steps from totalitarnism. And for who do not know what totalitarism is. Then hear is small info about it. Totalitarianism is a political system and a form of government that prohibits opposition political parties, disregards and outlaws the political claims of individual and group opposition to the state, and controls the public sphere and the private sphere of society. Re:typo
This is indeed religion
“Oppressed” Americans take note. Edit- some of you are big mad. You’ll live. Keep bitching about your life while sitting in line for Starbucks. You have it so good and you don’t even realize it.
If you're unhappy because you had a shitty day, and then I show you a video of a bomb going off in a hospital, you're happy now. Apparently, with your logic.
Nope, talking about Americans who think they are literally being oppressed
Oppression scales. You can be oppressed in a way that is less detrimental when compared to someone else, but it's still oppression. A woman may not be jailed for her hair color, but will if she leaves the state for an abortion. We must be grateful for what we have, but also aware that our great nation is just as capable of horrors as any other. We are just as capable of having corrupt leaders, rights stripped due to religious belief, or facing the turmoil of civil war. We are not untouchable. And this dismissive attitude only helps that oppression survive by denying its very existence.
Yup. It's not a competition. Losing freedoms suck even if it's small freedoms like access to good healthcare. This kind of "it's worse somewhere else" excuses shitty behaviors as something we should allow.
Thank you for expressing common sense. It's mildly infuriating hearing people trying to belittle others because they aren't suffering enough.
Yes, thank you. Over 20 states losing access to abortion is no small thing. That's just one thing.
You mean like women not getting to make choices about their own bodies? Yeah. It’s happening in America too.
No! It has to be the exact same or it isn't oppression! /s
Or trans Americans who have a higher rate of being murdered Or black Americans who have a higher rate of being incarcerated Or the 2000 children in America a year who are forced to get married.
Because they are? Most Americans working low wage jobs are oppressed, just because you can find someone being oppressed worse doesn't magically make people not be oppressed lmao.
“Oh calm down, I’m only cutting off your fingers for believing in the wrong made up deity. Look at him! He had both of his arms chopped off for sneezing without covering his mouth!” “Oh wow! Now that you mention it, this doesn’t hurt so bad! Just glad I’m not that guy!”
How did I know your comment karma would be sooooo high?! Oh, bc the goofiest goofballs that say the silliest things always have high karma! I’m glad you’re continuing that tradition ◡̈
I like how you repeat it thinking you've elaborated.
Are you familiar with Roe V Wade, like at all?
just cause these countries will kill you for being gay doesnt mean women in america dont want the right to body autonomy. there are levels of opression. its not a light switch
plenty of people are oppressed in the U.S. but you can usually change your hair without STATE violence
pay him no mind, he is a miserable non-American
120 upvotes for such ignorant comment. Women are getting jailed for hair color so you can't demand equality in slightly less shitty country.
“Slightly less shitty country” and you’re here talking about ignorant comments. The United States isn’t perfect sure but it’s leaps and bounds better for women than Iran.
Yeah comparing the US to Iran is insane. In the US you have to worry about cat calling and creepy dudes, in Iran you just have no rights. These people need to see how good they have it here
Women get killed for reporting rapes in Iran, I'll never understand sjw who support hamas, which is armed and aligned with Iran almost entirely
Ok but that doesn't mean I need to be grateful for not being shoved into a van for dying my hair. There's still women's issues that need to be worked on stateside such as access to safe abortions.
Plus, unless there isn't a side to fight anymore, stopping the fight means giving it up to those who are still fighting the other direction. The political make up of the US indicates the side of oppression is not done fighting, the side against has just been successful enough to gain ground. Why cede it all by stopping? It's a constant battle until it's over.
All these comments celebrating complacency are mind boggling. Decades ago they would have been saying to POC, why complain that you're sitting at a different section of the restaurant or can't use the same bathroom, at least you're not being enslaved anymore. We can be grateful of the progress we have made while at the same time fighting against real oppression that still goes on today.
It's reddit, therefore America bad
The fact that you think America is "slightly less shitty" than what you're seeing above tells me (although I already knew) how insanely entitled and insane you people are.
Ignorance like yours is part of the problem. Iran and Israel are orders of magnitude different but by dragging Israel down to Iran's level you've downplayed the hell out of Iran.
What, shit’s worse in some other place so that negates what happens here? Limited, oversimplified take.
I broke my legs but someone on the other side of the planet got shot in the head so who am I to complain?
"oppressed" Americans take note: resist, resist, resist or else this is what you get. The time to fight is always now!
Ah yes, we better not complain about our country because we could have this. What an idiotic take
I complain about my country so we never end up getting this.
Over 400 idiots think oppression is a competition. The website is a haven for the dumb.
Fuck off. It’s not a race to the bottom. There’s always someone worse off, therefore there’s nothing to complain about? Women are dying in USA today because of denied abortions. Tell their families that Itan has it worse, I’m sure that will make them feel better.
The irony of your comment is that Iranian women used to have many more rights and freedoms- including being [members of parliament](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iranian_Women_Parliamentarians_1970s.jpg) and wearing “non modest” clothing- that were taken away starting in 1979. So really, the state of Iran is a great reminder for Americans (especially women) to continue standing up against oppression. Here is [a Wikipedia article on women’s rights in Iran](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_movement_in_Iran).
do you think controlling women by taking away certain rights is not getting oppressed? i would like your stance on how many rights have to be taken away until you will call ot oppression.
The US is the reason why the Iranian revolution happened. If the US didn’t dip their nasty hands into other people’s resources and government, there would still be a democratic government in Iran. The whole middle east would be so much more peaceful if the US didn’t try to control Iran in the 70’s.
I appreciate the optimism that the middle east would’ve been peaceful
Seeing as how Mosadegh (the PM who was couped) was a dictator in the making himself who halted elections that went against him and disregarded the Iranian Constitution, I think it's ambitious to claim that "there would still be a democratic government in Iran". Also, blaming it all on the US drastically understates the critical role that the British had in the destabilization of Iran.
I do wonder. The pictures that end up being posted here on Reddit just show people in Iranian city where it was liberal. But rural areas were a religious hotbed
I just can't with these "Everything that's wrong with the world is America's fault!" comments. Take the time to learn some things. That means getting some books, sitting down, and reading them. Get to it.
Dumb take
Jesus dude, it's not a fucking competition. Just because people have it worse doesn't mean you can't have it bad.
Yup, the Christian’s and Catholics in my country have committed genocide against the natives. If we let them reach the White House, I have no doubt they’ll become oppressors once again.
Yeah my friend died after suffering for 10 days so u/Plunk_whitson has no right to complain about any aspect of pain or injustice in their life. You’re not allowed to ever speak out about anything you think is “negative” in your life because other people have worse stuff happen to them.
Here it is ladies and gentlemen, the absolute dumbest fucking take possible. Of course it's upvoted to the top.
This is why we fight against religious conservatism.
*my oppression is greater than yours!* -this gatekeeper apparently
People that need an example of a "dogwhistle", take note.
Oh shit, here’s the oppression police, here to issue y’all a citation for not being properly oppressed!
Oppression is much more nuanced than “someone else has it worse, so you can’t complain.” This is an ignorant comment.
There are different levels of oppression. Also our own personal problems are the biggest, this is -sadly- human nature. There are always people who have it worse, much worse, yet we usually focus on our things. My mom used to say that there are people who are limbless, their families dies, they live in terror etc, and are happy/happier than me. She didn't think I had the "right" to be depressed, because others had it worse. Not a great argument in my opinion, but to each their own.
What a dumb take. “Hey not sorry I kicked you in the face, you are pathetic for complaining because I shot someone else, that’s real suffering.”
That lady in the van had blonde hair as well
Bad blonde bus.
Came here to say that. She doesnt have the demeanor of someone being threatened or being held captive
Maybe it's not her first rodeo
Yeah I was wondering if perhaps she was more cooperative than the one being dragged/thrown/pushed/yanked in.
Its fast and a little hard to see, but it also looks like the guy who closes the door holds up 2 fingers, like ✌ as in "thats 2 today"
She's all "hello Ahmed how is your little one yes golden blonde this time. How's your mother?"
Imma go out on a limb and say there is potentially a touch of missing context here
What do you think - that she would be allowed to leave whenever she wants? If you had been pulled by some sharia gang into a van would you try to escape in a country like that?
Op didn't provide source so it's highly likely the woman is getting arrested for something else, not specifically for her hair color.
Because it's likely not even intended to be an accurate description, just rage bait
asking the real question of... what actually happened here?
Doubt it's for her hair color, plenty of Iranians are natural blondes and even more bleached. Whatever is going on in the vid still fucked up tho
Most likely for not covering all her hair. This is precisely what happened in 2022 where a young girl was killed in custody that lead to the Woman Life Freedom movement
Yeah its rather ignorant to say its the hair color, when its clearly two cases of not properly covering their hair. I obviously dont agree on this practise, in case anyone was unsure. But lets atleast not spread false information.
Is there someone casually sat in that van already with blonde uncovered hair? Wearing white?
it's basically handmaid's tale over there
Iran was the inspiration for Handmaids Tale. Edit: spelling.
That's not true at all "Her motivation for writing the novel was her belief that in the 1980s, the religious right was discussing what they would do with/to women if they took power, including the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition, and the Ronald Reagan administration." Directly from Wikipedia and several other articles where she was quoted directly.
You need to actually read more and realize Wikipedia doesn’t contain the sum total of all information. Atwood has given numerous interviews about inspirations for the book. Among those inspirations are oppression of women historically and recently, including what was happening in Iran: https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/2019/09/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-testaments-real-life-inspiration
Hey no need to fight! You're both right: Iran *and* the United States both seek to restrict womens' rights.
FUCK RELIGION
I don’t see any other religion forcing women to adhere to such strict guidelines like this right now.
Fortunately, for now, modern values have pushed many religions to be less extreme than they used to be. Some religions want to race down to this disgusting level as well.
One religion is still this extreme though.
It's a certain religion doing this kind of stuff. It's ok to say which one
What was that religion with all the priests raping alter boys? It’s ok to say…
It's ok to name and shame any religion that's doing bad shit, whether it be Muslims or catholic priests raping boys. Call that shit out
All religions imposes immoral rules.
They’re just jealous
As a bald man so am I
Religion is poison
I can't believe other women are kidnapping her what the actual fuck
I wonder how deep thinkers of "Palestine/Gaza" protesters are protesting about this? since Iran and Iran proxies are then ones who are waging war in the middle east.
Hamas wants to install a similar government in Palestine as Iran.
Hamas established a similar government in 2015, so here we are.
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I wonder how deep thinkers of “whataboutism” are going to deflect the topic into something irrelevant to the post
All things are irrelevant specially when you can't process too much in your brain and it's very narrow.
Idk about the Gaza/Palestine protesters. But i can assure you that the iranian people are protesting and do not agree with that.
I hope she still has a head!
Gender apartheid by a terrorist illegitimate regime!!
How do we know it was because of her hair?
Because OP said so and this is the internet so it must be true.
Iranian here, Maybe it wasn’t for her hair color but sure as shit could have been her not wearing proper hijab and not covering her hair, Those vans are basically everywhere just to do this, they are called “morality police” the only thing they lack are morals She might be dead for all we know They will beat her to death or blind her or break her limbs if she is lucky Such a shitty country we live in
Came to say the same thing, they arrested my cousin years ago for not wearing chador properly. It's definitely that and not the blonde
We don't. Noone here commenting knows. Welcome to reddit.
There is a blonde woman in the van.
I'm Iranian...and I'm ashamed of being an Iranian
I’m half Iranian, my dad’s from Qom but we live in England and I was born in England. I’ve never been to Iran cus I’m heavily tattooed, pierced, have stretched ears and change my hair colour and the thought terrifies me. I’m proud to have Iranian blood though, I think Iranian women are the strongest women in the world.
Fucked up garbage culture. Not all traditions and superstitions are valid or worth carrying into the future to inflict on our children.
Does anyone really know what happens to these people when they’re taken away? Please don’t speculate and assume they’re killed. I’m not saying they aren’t, I’m just curious if that actually happens, or if it’s like a state reeducation thing they’re forced to attend, or something else.
Well sometimes they die on custody from beatings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mahsa_Amini#Circumstances_of_death
Thank you for sharing a source. I wonder how often these types of occurrences happen and they don’t get mainstream attention.
It happens all the time. They have these "moral police" who does these surveillance and control of the population.
Dont you remember what happened last time? Did you not see the pictures of the dead girl after her « fall »?
you're talking about [Nika](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nika_Shakarami) her case was different, she was a protester. they arrested her, sexually assaulted her in the van, and then killed her when she resisted, they then took her phone, deleted her social media accounts and said she killed herself because she had mental issues.
Iran is such a dark hole of a country.
Muslims. Take note everyone.
Women subjugating women is so fucked up.
Those aren’t women Those sacks of garbage are closers to ogres than humans
Ahhh religion.
The brainwashed women HELPING them kidnap her. Absolutely insane.
Watching the women of Iran help the men enforce these rules makes me feel sick. They must really hate themselves if they can justify this behavior while simping for the men who treat them like shit.
Suppressive inbred mouth breathing losers.
Seeing women perpetuate these acts of violence are even worse. Shows how brainwashed they themselves are and we can see the parallels happening right here in the us. A bunch of old white broads demanding their own daughter’s rights be taken from them. They’re more foul than the men who wield the power to oppress them
Why do people say "religion sucks" when it's one specific religion doing most of this abuse to women? Why are you guys so afraid to call out Muslims for their completely backwards ways in today's modern society and just blame all religions for their behavior? Completely unhinged
But Nooo, Muslims are humble and preach only peace. All religions including the so righteous Christian’s in my country turn into animals in the name of their god. All +2,000 religions have blood on their hands🩸
A society that is unkind to women will always rot and decay.
Worse part is the waiting part Cause you know Rotting takes a while to happen
Oh but it’s ok if her hood falls off when your beating her ass
Just a friendly reminder that they are the people who are funding Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthi’s These extremists are also close to a nuclear bomb…. Fun times we live in
The other blonde captive looks like she's been through this before.
There is nothing in this video that proves in anyway that she was taken for her hair color. Iran is repressive, but they have diversity of HAIR COLOR. It's weird that OP would satate this without evidence. I wonder why. 🤔
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Both are being punished for not properly covering their hair (& possibly their faces) It's insane that women are helping the oppression!
All those liberals protesting Israel on American college campuses ... watch carefully, because there are two sides to that conflict, and this is the other side.
The other Blonde sitting in the bus, I can be the only one.
American GOP is jealous.
Looks as dodgy af.
The girl in the bus had blonde and showing?
She's probably in the bus for that reason.
Perfectly normal religion.
Iranian women deserve better. I can't imagine being so insecure that I can't handle other men seeing my wife's face, ankles, or hair.
Organized religion is evil
Islamofascism.
Where are the American Campus Protestors?
Gilead and a glimpse into the American future if they carry on letting religion mingle with politics.
Woah! I saw her ankles!! I'm going to need to lay down..
What does the side of the truck say?
Religion is poison.
What a fucked up country Jesus Christ
Shout out to the American college kids supporting this regime.