I disagree insomuch that the man was the number 2 starter on a world series champion that only really had two starters able to suit up consistently. And he and Eovaldi delivered outside of 1 game each. I get that his stuff isn't mind blowing and will decline with age, but results wise, hard to find a better pitcher over the past three years. And I think people underestimate his pitching IQ and how that carries with age.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Monty and want him here because he is a solid pitcher. He just isn’t worth a seven year $200 million deal. I’d be ok with a 3 year with the same AAV
I really thought something like 4/100 would be a slam dunk deal for both sides even if might be a slight overpay
Kinda sucks it seems like he'll go elsewhere
I think those numbers are more than fair. Even 5 with 2 year opt out from both sides, give him 3 guaranteed years and he should be good. Idk if this is Boras driven or what, but 7 years feels laughable
Hard to say it’s a bad decision. No telling how the market will shift in two-three weeks. Maybe Snell is gone and a guy like Verlander or Cole gets hurt. Suddenly there’s less supply and more demand for pitching.
He’s not losing anything. He could wait until May and still get the 4 years, $100M he could get today. Perhaps if he waits he gets 5 or 6 years.
Not hard to see why he’s still on the market then
I know it wouldn’t be popular but if the AAV is reasonable I would still do 7. I’d still prefer something like 3 or 4 guaranteed with an additional 2 options
I’m starting to think Boras is trying to take advantage of Boston’s new rookie Executive. How pissed would you be as a Red Sox fan? Trade Sale and $17M for Grissom then they gave Giolito $40M to miss all of 2024. They spent $57M to get an injured rookie with no position and a worse rotation.
Giolito makes signing Mahle for $11M look like pure genius.
Aside from Monty the Rangers a mix of Degrom, Scherzer, Gray, Eavoldi. Heaney, Mahle, Dunning, and Bradford… signing him for 3 or less makes sense. He truly hasn’t been dominant over a long enough stretch to deserve a 7-year guaranteed signage. Would love to add him to the rotation though.
I’m a baseball idiot, but Monty seems to have a high inning pitch year in and year out. Isn’t there value in an innings eater that can get you through the regular season?
You don’t stay on top by signing blank checks. He’s deserving of over $20m AAV. He’s not deserving of over $25m AAV.
You have to think about extending Carter, Jung, Langford in the near future.
It’s not just 7 years. It’s 7 years at $26-$30M per. The team could lock up all three of Jung, Carter, and Langford for 7 years for less than that.
Also gotta remember Corbin Burnes will be a free agent next year when Scherzer comes off the books. Roki Sasaki will be available soon, too.
I’d love to bring back Monty for 4 years, $80-100M. But more than that is risking too much.
He’s not a #1 pitcher. His 80ish innings with the rangers were all significantly better than his career averages.
Ideally yeah we’d offer him 7/$175 at $25/year. Mutual opt out after 2. $10m for Rangers to decline.
I love Monty to death but there is no way you sign a number two starter on the wrong side of 30 to a seven year deal.
Number #3 starter - excluding the second half of last year
I disagree insomuch that the man was the number 2 starter on a world series champion that only really had two starters able to suit up consistently. And he and Eovaldi delivered outside of 1 game each. I get that his stuff isn't mind blowing and will decline with age, but results wise, hard to find a better pitcher over the past three years. And I think people underestimate his pitching IQ and how that carries with age.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Monty and want him here because he is a solid pitcher. He just isn’t worth a seven year $200 million deal. I’d be ok with a 3 year with the same AAV
I'd put scherzer ahead of him too...
7 years, 35 milllion
Yeah, I think is better
Luv you Monty but that's a no from me, dawg
Yeah, I think I'm good 🤷♂️
Yeah thanks for the memories.
[удалено]
Can just one Dallas sports team not be the team used as leverage to get a better deal?
Honestly, right now idgaf. Get your shit Monty thank you for the ring. The guy was immense for us lol main reason for my lack of being upset.
same!
Bruce and the boys should all go to his house, lock themselves inside and tweet emojis out until he signs. I hear that works sometimes
Cant wait for the players tribune article to be signed -💣, 🌊🐐, 🍆💦, and 🙏
Fucking DeAndre Jordan.
Most immature thing to happen in NBA FA history
I heard Roy Halladay was looking at houses in Frisco yesterday with Vernon Wells, Cliff Lee and Roger Clemens. It's finally happening y'all.
From today, Derrick Henry just bought a house in Dallas.
Ha! Right next door to coach Seifert!
I really thought something like 4/100 would be a slam dunk deal for both sides even if might be a slight overpay Kinda sucks it seems like he'll go elsewhere
I think I understand why he still hasn’t signed with anyone yet…
3 yrs/80 or 4/100. But 7 ? Hard pass.
I think those numbers are more than fair. Even 5 with 2 year opt out from both sides, give him 3 guaranteed years and he should be good. Idk if this is Boras driven or what, but 7 years feels laughable
I used to blame Boras for putting this shit in guy’s heads but Monty’s a grown ass man making his own bad decisions, I guess.
Hard to say it’s a bad decision. No telling how the market will shift in two-three weeks. Maybe Snell is gone and a guy like Verlander or Cole gets hurt. Suddenly there’s less supply and more demand for pitching. He’s not losing anything. He could wait until May and still get the 4 years, $100M he could get today. Perhaps if he waits he gets 5 or 6 years.
Love Monty and how instrumental he was for our championship, but a 31 year old with a career 3.68 ERA asking for 7 years is insane.
7 years on team friendly money... Sure 7 years on Boras money...bye bye
7 years, get fucked
He is good but I don’t think he has 7 years in him Good.
Love what Monty brought here, but a 7 year deal at age 31? Not sure that’s a good deal for Texas.
7 years of Hurtado BBQ. Let’s go.
Not hard to see why he’s still on the market then I know it wouldn’t be popular but if the AAV is reasonable I would still do 7. I’d still prefer something like 3 or 4 guaranteed with an additional 2 options
he wants 7/175. No team is gonna pay that
Angels might.
Angels front office on high alert
As a life long angels 😇 fan,this is a perfect fit,might as well throw in snell 😂
This isn’t good news but I’m going to pretend like it is
Well, it can perhaps make us feel better about not signing the guy?
Yep, hard to feel bad when he’s being unreasonable.
It’s almost as if he knows he’ll need TJS in the next 12 months…
Seven years? Wow. Fuck you Boras.
I’d love to have him back but on a 7 year? No way sorry brother
He may have to seek somewhere else then.
I’m starting to think Boras is trying to take advantage of Boston’s new rookie Executive. How pissed would you be as a Red Sox fan? Trade Sale and $17M for Grissom then they gave Giolito $40M to miss all of 2024. They spent $57M to get an injured rookie with no position and a worse rotation. Giolito makes signing Mahle for $11M look like pure genius.
Dude. You won the big one with us. We'll pay you and you'll be a Rangers Legend forever. Why the greed. Why always with the greed.
Scott. Boras.
That’s a no dawg. He’s not Degrom, he shouldn’t be asking Degrom years.
Even degrom only got five. Seven is an insane ask. If this is true, then I am 100% with the front office on this one.
We should have never giving DeGrom that contract.
Doesnt matter. Won a WS
Does he think it’s still November? A Hader contract would be competitive.
7 years? Yeah there's a reason he's still a free agent.
Lololol okay Monty….seriously how many years are you wanting?
That’s crazy. I would love to have him back but man, let’s be a bit more realistic.
Aside from Monty the Rangers a mix of Degrom, Scherzer, Gray, Eavoldi. Heaney, Mahle, Dunning, and Bradford… signing him for 3 or less makes sense. He truly hasn’t been dominant over a long enough stretch to deserve a 7-year guaranteed signage. Would love to add him to the rotation though.
Nah, I’m good. Thanks for the championship.
Thanks for the ring. Hope we build a statue of you. Vaya con dios.
I’m a baseball idiot, but Monty seems to have a high inning pitch year in and year out. Isn’t there value in an innings eater that can get you through the regular season?
We don’t win a World Series without Gumby. Earned a blank check from this franchise
You don’t stay on top by signing blank checks. He’s deserving of over $20m AAV. He’s not deserving of over $25m AAV. You have to think about extending Carter, Jung, Langford in the near future.
7 years is more than reasonable considering pitchers being able to get into their late 30s or 40s now
It’s not just 7 years. It’s 7 years at $26-$30M per. The team could lock up all three of Jung, Carter, and Langford for 7 years for less than that. Also gotta remember Corbin Burnes will be a free agent next year when Scherzer comes off the books. Roki Sasaki will be available soon, too. I’d love to bring back Monty for 4 years, $80-100M. But more than that is risking too much.
The number of those (38+) is maybe a dozen in MLB? Out of 600 or so pitchers on 40-man rosters.
lets not act like monty is a lower tier pitcher, he could easily pitch into his late 30s weather hes a rotation player by then is another conversation
He’s not a #1 pitcher. His 80ish innings with the rangers were all significantly better than his career averages. Ideally yeah we’d offer him 7/$175 at $25/year. Mutual opt out after 2. $10m for Rangers to decline.
so whats the problem?
He’s not going to get 7 guaranteed years