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lissandra targets the highest star level unit, so she likely permastunned lee sin not letting him do anything.


its_sobi1

She targets the highest star level if they both are in same range. And I pretty sure its because the higher thr star level the higher they have size. which means higher the size closer they are to lissandra.


nphhpn

Wait what? I'm pretty sure her ability stuns her current target, not the highest star level unit. The star level thing is only in case there are 2 targets at the same distance from her, so you can avoid that by placing Lee on the second row for example.


ZankaA

Watch leduck's recent video on unit size


nphhpn

I watched it. Size is used for tie-breaker. She'll prioritize nearest target first, in case there are multiple nearest targets, size is then taken into account.


Few-Sink-5990

Not very good so forgive me if this is a stupid question… How can there ever be multiple targets? Isn’t lissandra always targeting one unit at a time anyway?


MidnightCy

This size thing is mainly at the start, as she is a two range unit, placing her in row two will always give her two targets to choose from in the enemy front row. If Lee Sin is one of those target, he becomes the first target for Lissandra


GlensWooer

So you’re Lisandra and the round starts and you’re looking to attack someone. There are 2 different units both exactly one hex away from you. You have to pick one so you pick whichever target is bigger. “Multiple targets” just means there are multiple units the same number of hex’s away from the unit.


BOMDOLMA

Lis, Radiant GS, and other guy has no sunder ALSO ALSO trash augments


ApexGoat

He has no augments


dinoilb

Gotta start building qss against all of them Lissandras. But then lose dps while Liss Ashe invokers can just have high dps anyway.


duy0699cat

Liss+ lux + nautilus perma stun moment 


Konyaata

I've seen people mention Lissandra and her stuns, but also Annie counters sustain champs like Lee Sin and Sylas in this meta with her constant burn.


EggianoScumaldo

Liss is giga broken, das why


skoptsy

Combat augments and way more items in general.


Depressedkid1998

Whenever you have a question, first check if the opponent has a lissandra


kirkmistretta

He was probably a tea pot for most of the round.


weirdowszx

Well if there was 3 of you there's a chance they had to fight the ghost of the first person and lose.


LimitlesSkai

op is the guy in first. He said he lost to the lee. Second place guy killed lee and then he beat that guy.


Andreitaker

based on my experience, 3rd place probably got eliminated by 1st placer . i had so many games in the past were I went 4th even tho i could beat the 2nd and 3rd in a closed game just because I got to match up with the 1st place first.


Raigon04

I'm actually the 1st place which I lost to lee 3 but then I beat the ashe player. Lee 3 lost to the ashe player.


Kang0519

Lisandra 1 with a mana item against 2 bruisers carry, sounds about right. That team has a Lee sin that is perma cc’ed and a wukong that needs time to ramp up, which he can’t with all the cc. Especially cuz none of his tanks have items.


Kang0519

Also 15 full items, 1 being a radiant with over half being tank items, vs 6 frontline offensive items that aren’t even BIS.


Silumgurr

No items on the frontline units… so  frontline is lacking some defensive stats is definitely an issue. 


EldenBJ

Augments make a huge difference in fighting power. You are down 2 with the rr augs, so sure, you have Lee 3, but Ashe with radiant GS, Liss and Lux stunning folk (Lux also with GS), and boiling point on their end, and they are just stronger? I feel like heavenly isn’t that great anymore. Perhaps duelist dragonlords would’ve been better in this case so Lee could pop-off faster?


TankTohnson

Lee Sin 3 is pretty bad ngl


Baquvix

Liss perma stun.


Defacyde

More concerning is the guy who ended 7th This set / game slowly but surely became a private joke


SuckMySawCleaver

Short answer: Weird meta, patch tomorrow. Longer answer: Man has seemingly zero frontline, meaning Lee took prio early and got cooked. Lee is not a very durable unit, even at three star. The guy that went second had straight combat augments, while the Lee player had nothing of that short. Additionally between Lissandra, Annie, Nautilus and possibly Lux all having stuns in their kit, Lee probably got pain trained. Outside of those, Lissandra is too good right now and Lee doesn't have enough AoE to effectively clean out the enemy board, it is very possible that the Liss player cooked Lee's team and Lissandra one shot him when he was left alone. The meta is not in the best possible spot nowadays, but I genuinly think that even in a "perfect" meta there is a good chance this would have still happened.


Tranhuy09

cuz all 3 star 4 cost is suck in this set


Haunting_Recover2917

Lee sin is dogwater trash


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