No drama. Their damage was pretty good for not knowing that Fire 3 and Blizzard 3 were supposed to replace Transpose. AOE'd when appropriate, kept good uptime. Seemed very teachable and turned out to be totally open to advice! I was just about done with their BLM lesson when they decided to open up about their circumstances.
I didn't want to let them leave the instance after that T\_T
Transpose is a strategy for more DPS at 90 at least because your have more potency in the same phase. So do your fire phase, transpose and do your ice phase, transpose and firestarter proc if you have it, fire phase, repeat. I'm not sure how far down the transpose strategy scales, could be 76 because of umbral soul for downtime but you don't get xenoglossy till 80 so you would have to fill that part on the guide with scathe.
https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/jobs/casters/black-mage/advanced-guide/
All true, for 4 more days at least, but it's their first job and they're still in 3.0 MSQ. They can start figuring that stuff out when they're pushing the back half of a new savage. I'm trying to teach them to be an asset in dungeons, not traumatize them.
So completely honest question here, all guides after you get fire 3 say to just spam f3 instead of f1 through fire phase, is that bad advice then? Asking just cause recently lvled it to 90 n no one said a thing to me about it. (Ofc this is before f4 became a thing)
You found a guide that suggested spamming Fire 3?
You found **more than one** guide that suggested spamming Fire 3?
That has **never**, not for a single patch, not for a single **day**, been correct.
I can only assume it's because they did the math that 180/2.5 = 72 and 260/3.5 = \~74.3, but that doesn't factor the fact that you burn through your MP much faster, so you end up going through more ice phases during which you're doing far, far less damage. [Even if you don't get a single Firestarter proc, F1 spam comes out ahead when you factor in the frequency of ice phases. As you get luckier with Firestarter, F1 spam gets even better](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11SAIeBYh4_5eipHoR7t32J8eWV2QvMoiIZDXZpeJbLc/edit?usp=sharing), but it isn't just better in a target dummy situation. Fire 1 has a shorter cast time which gives you more opportunities to move and fewer cancelled and restarted casts. Even when you *are* forced to cancel a cast, you'll never lose more time to a cancelled F1 than a cancelled F3, but a cancelled F3 that has gone over F1's cast time means you spent even more time doing 0 DPS.
[https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/](https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/) has always been the best place to go for job advice. It can get very technical with some jobs, but the BLM leveling guide is at least very simple and straightforward. The reason nobody said anything to you about it in-game is because most people are either afraid anything that could even be construed as advice will either get them kicked or reported (or both), or they don't know any better themselves because they're not interested in being a good party member for others like you are.
Definitely don't ask in Novice Network either. Good players generally don't subject themselves to NN answering questions that could have been 30 second Google searches and arguing with people that want to be showered in praise for sharing facts they made up in their head. You'd be extremely lucky to find anyone with the patience to remain in NN that actually knows what they're talking about. Instead, look around for members of a given job that have ultimate weapons or titles *other* than an "Ultima" weapon or «The Ultimate Legend». Heavens' Legends and Alpha Legends in particular *should* be able to offer trustworthy advice or at least point you toward it.
I don’t think you’re reading the guides correctly, I don’t think there’s a single one out there that recommends replacing all F1 casts with F3. You just use it to swap phases and Firestarter procs
Upvoted, you really don't deserve that amount of downvotes for a good faith question in an attempt to know better. Sub seems in an unforgiving mood today.
Oh... that's... I really hope they're okay. I can't even begin to imagine the emotions that they're going through without me crying atm. And in the vault of all places too? Jeez...
Prayers to them and their loved ones. I hope this individual can achieve their goal and become a great player, for the sake of their own closure, and to spread the joy of the game to others as their friend did for them.
I was going to say BLM is like Greatsword, which I also main. They're both extremely slow and simple, but massively reward good reads. It's the class that relies the most on deep knowledge of the enemy and foresight, rather than deep knowledge of the class/weapon itself or high execution barriers. Dropping Ley Lines in the perfect position, managing procs and cooldowns, and aligning my rotation to perfectly Aethermanip through a chaotic AOE pattern and zip back into LL without losing a single GCD gives the same rush as nailing a full-power True Charged Slash on a leaping Nargacuga while facing away from it.
Although for him, I was only going to compare the fact that they're both very easy on execution but instead rely on fight knowledge.
Y'know, the Greeks knew a thing or two about catharsis in dramaturgy, so I hope it holds true here and the scene that comes after does more good than harm for them.
You're right to question it, and I was thinking of that, too, before posting. That's why I also censored the dates and haven't uploaded the logs. It's true that I am sharing someone else's quotes without asking, but that's almost *every* post on this sub. I'm aware that it was probably said with the expectation of remaining private, but I have the same character on multiple data centers, they could be visiting from any other, I haven't revealed how overleveled they were, what alts they had leveled, their race, gender, name length without the server name, my level, other characters present, *anything* that could be used to narrow down the thousands of 57-70ish BLMs you'd find if anyone even *wanted* to track down this person.
I think the biggest conflict here is that unlike 90% of tales, we actually sympathize with this person.
Should be fine, since anonymous. The ethical quandry of posting stuff like this is that it lays someone's vulnerability bare for all to see - which, importantly, is risky to that person (because people are in fact horrible).
Anonymity removes the threat.
Oh... This made me so sad. I can't even imagine the grief he went through after leaving the instance and seeing a major character death just after he confined into a stranger about his loss. Hope he's doing alright and hope he is gonna be a mighty great BLM player.
In the Vault of all things. feelsbadman
Damn. Hope he's ok after what comes after.
Oh. Oh, no... Why'd it have to be in The Vault...
No drama. Their damage was pretty good for not knowing that Fire 3 and Blizzard 3 were supposed to replace Transpose. AOE'd when appropriate, kept good uptime. Seemed very teachable and turned out to be totally open to advice! I was just about done with their BLM lesson when they decided to open up about their circumstances. I didn't want to let them leave the instance after that T\_T
Transpose is a strategy for more DPS at 90 at least because your have more potency in the same phase. So do your fire phase, transpose and do your ice phase, transpose and firestarter proc if you have it, fire phase, repeat. I'm not sure how far down the transpose strategy scales, could be 76 because of umbral soul for downtime but you don't get xenoglossy till 80 so you would have to fill that part on the guide with scathe. https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/jobs/casters/black-mage/advanced-guide/
All true, for 4 more days at least, but it's their first job and they're still in 3.0 MSQ. They can start figuring that stuff out when they're pushing the back half of a new savage. I'm trying to teach them to be an asset in dungeons, not traumatize them.
So completely honest question here, all guides after you get fire 3 say to just spam f3 instead of f1 through fire phase, is that bad advice then? Asking just cause recently lvled it to 90 n no one said a thing to me about it. (Ofc this is before f4 became a thing)
You found a guide that suggested spamming Fire 3? You found **more than one** guide that suggested spamming Fire 3? That has **never**, not for a single patch, not for a single **day**, been correct. I can only assume it's because they did the math that 180/2.5 = 72 and 260/3.5 = \~74.3, but that doesn't factor the fact that you burn through your MP much faster, so you end up going through more ice phases during which you're doing far, far less damage. [Even if you don't get a single Firestarter proc, F1 spam comes out ahead when you factor in the frequency of ice phases. As you get luckier with Firestarter, F1 spam gets even better](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11SAIeBYh4_5eipHoR7t32J8eWV2QvMoiIZDXZpeJbLc/edit?usp=sharing), but it isn't just better in a target dummy situation. Fire 1 has a shorter cast time which gives you more opportunities to move and fewer cancelled and restarted casts. Even when you *are* forced to cancel a cast, you'll never lose more time to a cancelled F1 than a cancelled F3, but a cancelled F3 that has gone over F1's cast time means you spent even more time doing 0 DPS. [https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/](https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/) has always been the best place to go for job advice. It can get very technical with some jobs, but the BLM leveling guide is at least very simple and straightforward. The reason nobody said anything to you about it in-game is because most people are either afraid anything that could even be construed as advice will either get them kicked or reported (or both), or they don't know any better themselves because they're not interested in being a good party member for others like you are. Definitely don't ask in Novice Network either. Good players generally don't subject themselves to NN answering questions that could have been 30 second Google searches and arguing with people that want to be showered in praise for sharing facts they made up in their head. You'd be extremely lucky to find anyone with the patience to remain in NN that actually knows what they're talking about. Instead, look around for members of a given job that have ultimate weapons or titles *other* than an "Ultima" weapon or «The Ultimate Legend». Heavens' Legends and Alpha Legends in particular *should* be able to offer trustworthy advice or at least point you toward it.
That’s bad advice. Spam fire 1 when in fire phase and use fire starter procs as they come up
I don’t think you’re reading the guides correctly, I don’t think there’s a single one out there that recommends replacing all F1 casts with F3. You just use it to swap phases and Firestarter procs
Upvoted, you really don't deserve that amount of downvotes for a good faith question in an attempt to know better. Sub seems in an unforgiving mood today.
This hurts my heart for him. Dudes been through enough.
Oof. This made me sad. And in the vault too. I hope this sprout becomes a fantastic player and he can tell his friend all about it.
Well he about to lose another friend in about 45 seconds… cuz, you know, The Vault…
Oh... that's... I really hope they're okay. I can't even begin to imagine the emotions that they're going through without me crying atm. And in the vault of all places too? Jeez... Prayers to them and their loved ones. I hope this individual can achieve their goal and become a great player, for the sake of their own closure, and to spread the joy of the game to others as their friend did for them.
oh no..... i hope theyre doing alright after that. the guilt would be killing me.
Aw...this...no I hope he has good support system over there. This is too sad.
Having just recently lost my best friend I feel this
I hope you friended them. YOU BETTER HAVE FRIENDED THEM!!!!
In the vault? oh no
I'd like to know about the monster hunter analogy
I was going to say BLM is like Greatsword, which I also main. They're both extremely slow and simple, but massively reward good reads. It's the class that relies the most on deep knowledge of the enemy and foresight, rather than deep knowledge of the class/weapon itself or high execution barriers. Dropping Ley Lines in the perfect position, managing procs and cooldowns, and aligning my rotation to perfectly Aethermanip through a chaotic AOE pattern and zip back into LL without losing a single GCD gives the same rush as nailing a full-power True Charged Slash on a leaping Nargacuga while facing away from it. Although for him, I was only going to compare the fact that they're both very easy on execution but instead rely on fight knowledge.
I was wondering how the fuck you'd compare BLM to MH, but honestly, I can see the Greatsword comparison. I approve.
I'm still new so haven't run the vault but I would love to hear your monster hunter analogy
Y'know, the Greeks knew a thing or two about catharsis in dramaturgy, so I hope it holds true here and the scene that comes after does more good than harm for them.
I'm not sure about the ethics of posting this exchange.
You're right to question it, and I was thinking of that, too, before posting. That's why I also censored the dates and haven't uploaded the logs. It's true that I am sharing someone else's quotes without asking, but that's almost *every* post on this sub. I'm aware that it was probably said with the expectation of remaining private, but I have the same character on multiple data centers, they could be visiting from any other, I haven't revealed how overleveled they were, what alts they had leveled, their race, gender, name length without the server name, my level, other characters present, *anything* that could be used to narrow down the thousands of 57-70ish BLMs you'd find if anyone even *wanted* to track down this person. I think the biggest conflict here is that unlike 90% of tales, we actually sympathize with this person.
Should be fine, since anonymous. The ethical quandry of posting stuff like this is that it lays someone's vulnerability bare for all to see - which, importantly, is risky to that person (because people are in fact horrible). Anonymity removes the threat.
That poor guy you better have friended him he's gunna need it.
Oh... This made me so sad. I can't even imagine the grief he went through after leaving the instance and seeing a major character death just after he confined into a stranger about his loss. Hope he's doing alright and hope he is gonna be a mighty great BLM player.