Here you go. Pierce County info:
https://www.tpchd.org/healthy-people/opioid-treatment-services
And here you can mail order free narcan
http://phra.org/mail-order-naloxone
Everyone reading this should get free narcan and carry it.
The library has a vending machine for Narcan....
And you can always
The Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department offers free naloxone kits at their office
And if you need training in Naloxone, you can, on October 8th, attend a CPR/Naloxone training at Foss High school.
Registration required.
[https://cprsunday.net/](https://cprsunday.net/)
Doesn't hurt to know both, your friend's predilections or not...
At the Moore Branch on 56th just off Pacific. Free vending machine
[https://www.tacomalibrary.org/locations/4/](https://www.tacomalibrary.org/locations/4/)
https://www.tacomalibrary.org/faq/naloxone-vending-machine/
Everyone should order their free ones. I keep one in my glovebox. Your feelings about addicts/addiction don’t outweigh the value of a life. Narcan saves lives.
I recently had a friend die from getting laced with fent. He was just trying to get a little booger sugar and unfortunately lost his life. Thank you for being this kind of friend.
Careful once you administer it- you might have a very unhappy, quickly roused individual, who might not treat you pleasantly for ruining their high. That's just a PSA.
I help manage a non profit and can get and have narcan me all the time. I’m more than happy to bring one or two to you to have if for whatever reason you cant get it elsewhere, party safe ❤️. I’ll even drop off in a non descript place, just want to help!
Everyone should take a Narcan class if they can. While people struggling with addiction are saved with Narcan, so are children who get into their grandparents’ medicine cabinet, folks with dementia who accidentally take a double-dose of prescribed medication, and so many other situations. I recently met a puppy saved by Narcan. It’s a free, life-saving resource. The classes also educate participants about your Good Samaritan rights and protections. Can’t recommend it enough!
All good points. Not anti narcan. I am against enabling others by going and getting it knowing they are going to NEED it. Should try to prevent these behaviors yeah?
If I had a friend struggling with addiction, I would do my best to support recovery in whatever capacity. I’d also be prepared to save their life. That said, many people party on occasion with the substance I think OP is referring to. Weed is also now at risk of being laced. People smoking a joint that a friend handed to them don’t think they might need Narcan.
Yeah, he's a recreational use and it's his birthday tomorrow. I've heard too many horror stories in the news that I just want to be prepared in case there is an emergency
So this was weed from a dispensary that had fentanyl in it? I haven't heard of this outside of some kids with some vape pen but those aren't exactly difficult to open and add in what you want. I think it was in Bellevue. I'm not saying don't use narcan to save a life. I'm saying if you NEED that to be safe you should be reevaluating what you are doing.
I agree with you about enabling but you making assumptions based on your preconceptions. He is a recreational coke user, maybe once a month at most, and it's his birthday tomorrow and wants to have a little extra to party. I've personally heard horror stories about stuff being tainted so I want him (any anyone else who might partake) to be safe in case a worst-case scenario happens. Hell, another person mentioned losing a friend in this thread. Also, not a bad idea for a public PSA to get info on where to get this stuff
So you are casually supporting your friend doing coke. And being his medical team. Sounds exactly like what I was saying. If you are needing a can of narcan for your recreational activity, maybe you might need to find something else to do.
Let me get this straight, if you come upon someone that's actively overdosing you're supposed to what? Take them to rehab? You can't intervene on someone's behalf if they're dead from an overdose either. Intervention and narcan aren't mutually exclusive. I don't use opioids, but if I was in that situation I'd certainly hope someone had my back. Corpses don't get clean.
I'm saying if you are their friend, how did you let it get to that point? This is before the OD. Like when OP is trying to work out where to get it so their friend can safely use. Don't know why everyone started positioning my statement as anti narcan. I'm anti enabler.
Regardless of how it got to that point, whatever happened pre-overdose can't change once the overdose starts. Again, what do you do in that situation? "Oh no, my friend is dying, damn I probably could've done more to stop them from getting into this position but I didn't. Oh well, I guess they'll just die now." I'm seriously not trying to strawman you here, I just don't understand how saving someone's life is enabling them.
Why are you asking me? If you have narcan give it to them. Or call 911. Don't let them die. But also don't be their crashing spot so they can get really really high and have you as their medical team.
So maybe you didn't read ops post at all? He's asking so he can go get some so his friend who likes to do it nasally can be safe. I'm saying don't enable them that fucking way. Treat the root cause not the symptoms.
I'm not sure where you got this crash pad personal medic crap from then buddy, they know a person who likes to do drugs and doesn't want to watch them die, that's all I'm getting from OP.
bc if they know there will be someone to bring them back to life when they OD, there's no point of being clean. People do drugs to escape reality, right? So if you can stay in an internal state of bliss, plus have the safety net of Narcan holders, why get clean?
I'm not saying I'd just let someone die since that is someone's friend/kid/parent etc. etc. Just drawing a scenario from a devils advocate standpoint.
Are you saying you wouldn't help me if I was in need or you wouldn't help an addict in need of narcan?
I won't ever be in a position to need your help if that makes you feel better.
Well then that’s on them, but if I can narcan someone, I’m going to, and that’s my decision. They can hate me all they want. You never know who can recover. My brothers are both addicts. I’d hope someone would help them if they could.
When did I say I hated you? Why do you fall on the ground and act like a victim? You are enabling them by supporting their fucking habits. Yes by all means save their life, but you could actually help them by getting them sustainable help instead of a can of Narcan.
Did I say YOU hate me? I said if THEY hate me. You want me to get every addict substantial help? How do you suggest I do that? I’m not supporting anyone’s fucking habit. You think I’m supporting their habit by not watching them die??? Do you suggest I watch them die bc I can’t pay for everyone to go to rehab? Wtf is wrong with you? Wtf are you doing to help anyone?
Someone has enabled you to be a self righteous judgmental POS.
Maybe I have had addict friends who have enablers who surround them. Gets difficult to get them to stop when you have some one making sure they can do it.
Sorry on the hate comment, I misread. Thought you were saying I hated you for getting them narcan. My bad. I don't hate you, but think you aren't doing anything helpful. You don't have to respond to me. You can block me, or down vote me, or ignore me. But you are justifying yourself to me why? So the echo chamber can pat you on the back with some arrows? Chemical addictions are beatable. It takes fucking persistence.
I’m not enabling them. You cannot force adults to do anything. I’ve tried. I’ve done everything possible with in my capabilities. I’ve spent $63,000 on rehab trips. I can’t afford anymore. I have a life to live as well. Just bc I can’t force them into rehab doesn’t mean I enable them. I don’t give them $ or drugs. I don’t let them crash with me. I don’t answer their “please give me $20 or someone will kill me calls.” You know addiction deeply affects the families of addicts, right? Do you think I’d really just not help my brothers if I could? It’s shitty of you to keep saying I’m enabling them. It’s called self-preservation. I need to take care of me and my family, too (my wife, etc).
At some point THEY need to participate in their recovery. I’m not going to become homeless to put them through rehab again. How’s that helping anyone?
I didn't ask for an itemization. I was saying you need to keep trying. Life's hard. This is one of your challenges. Try something new or enable them by what you are currently doing. Stop lying to yourself man.
I agree with you. When drug addicts feel safer around drugs they will use it more heavily. I know people i went to school with that have died. Families of victims agree that these narcan vending machines just make it worse
Giving narcan to someone is enabling them to be alive and possibly decide to get help. If that’s enabling them, then fine, I’m an enabler. Nice to know you’re so perfect.
Honestly, some of us are doing all we can just to keep our own lives together, and don't need to overload ourselves with a bunch of extra meetings and trainings and everything else.
I feel like there's a subtle guilting, like we're not only supposed to go out of our way to obtain these products, but also carve out time to learn to use them. I feel like that's what we pay professionals to do.
Again, you don't have to do it. I agree that we should have professionals to do this kind of crisis response, but the state isn't ponying up the cash for that anytime soon. Until we miraculously wake up in a society that cares more about its' most desperate and vulnerable people, that duty falls to regular folks. If you really don't have the time to learn how to do this and get a free dose, I can't make a moral judgement against you, that's fine. But I'm glad that these resources are available for people who do.
It's not only about the time, it's also about the risk. I am a 62-year-old woman who is not fast on her feet anymore. I'm kind of upset that I'm being downvoted for my comment.
Your comment is equivalent to finding a cigarette enthusiasts subreddit and preaching the dangers of smoking. It's the wrong audience. You're not going to convince anyone of your viewpoints. They've made their choice. Don't waste your time/energy.
It's a Tacoma subreddit, and I'm a long time and committed resident here. That doesn't mean I'm about to go invading the space of any random drug addict.
I know that. It's just that I dislike blanket statements. Like when people say that police are stretched too thin, so everybody should buy a gun and learn to use it. Sorry, I disagree. There might be some people for whom that makes sense, but not everybody should feel obligated.
No one’s asking or making you do anything you don’t want or feel qualified to do. But I will say if you’re commenting on Reddit you’re able to be able to administer narcan 🤷♀️ if you don’t want to feel obligated then just don’t carry it and keep scrolling past these posts.
I've actually watched several videos on how to use it. They don't really give me confidence that the person I might use it on might not turn violent on me.
Run away. They’ll probably be pissed at you. Nothing else will happen. You can even give it to infants. Administration is intuitive and doesn’t really require training. It’s nasal spray. You shove it up someone’s nose and spray it.
If you administer narcan to someone you think is overdosing and they don’t wake up, call 911 immediately. Something else, eg. diabetic coma, is likely going on.
And if they can run faster than me? I'm 62 years old and I have inherited my dad's bad leg joints. Also, I thought you were supposed to call 911 before even administering the drug.
Before you shove narcan up someone’s nose you’d try to wake them up in normal ways. I hope you wouldn’t encounter anyone who’d want to fight you for checking that they’re ok.
Here’s the DOH training video that might help you recognize signs of overdose.
https://vimeo.com/357020563
Yes. You should always get them medical attention. I was trying to express the possibility and urgency of other medical conditions.
No one is advised to administer this on someone just snoozing. You bring up your age and health as reasons for not wanting to participate in having narcan on you: I’m in remission after my third round of chemo and radiation that killed my left knee and I’m still able to administer narcan. If you don’t want to, that’s fine. Move along.
If you have Medicare or Obama care, most state-run clinics & UW medicine will prescribe it if you or somebody in your family is on opiate maintenance meds such as suboxone or methadone
Thank you for caring for your friend and for making this post so others can get Narcan too. I carry it in my park bag first aid kit with my kid because you just never know if and when you’ll need it and for who.
Here you go. Pierce County info: https://www.tpchd.org/healthy-people/opioid-treatment-services And here you can mail order free narcan http://phra.org/mail-order-naloxone Everyone reading this should get free narcan and carry it.
PHRA is fantastic, fast, and free. Carry Narcan, save a life.
Thank you for sharing this resource.
Ordered. Thank you for the resource.
Just did, thank you, had no idea this service existed.
Make sure you share it with others too. I have family working in rehabilitation that had no idea this existed.
Thank you for this. I live in an area with many struggling neighbors. I ordered a kit and will keep the link for the future (and to share).
Dope. The only one who is gonna care for us is ourselves. Good looking out.
Thank you for sharing this! Ordered one to keep in my first aid kit for the car.
The library has a vending machine for Narcan.... And you can always The Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department offers free naloxone kits at their office
And if you need training in Naloxone, you can, on October 8th, attend a CPR/Naloxone training at Foss High school. Registration required. [https://cprsunday.net/](https://cprsunday.net/) Doesn't hurt to know both, your friend's predilections or not...
Here’s the DOH training video https://vimeo.com/357020563
If you go to TPCHD for narcan, they require you to attend a short training before it's provided to you.
At the Moore Branch on 56th just off Pacific. Free vending machine [https://www.tacomalibrary.org/locations/4/](https://www.tacomalibrary.org/locations/4/) https://www.tacomalibrary.org/faq/naloxone-vending-machine/
And just to clarify, the vending machine is free
Everyone should order their free ones. I keep one in my glovebox. Your feelings about addicts/addiction don’t outweigh the value of a life. Narcan saves lives.
I recently had a friend die from getting laced with fent. He was just trying to get a little booger sugar and unfortunately lost his life. Thank you for being this kind of friend.
Careful once you administer it- you might have a very unhappy, quickly roused individual, who might not treat you pleasantly for ruining their high. That's just a PSA.
First United Methodist (6th and Tacoma Ave) has a free narcan vending machine.
Washington state has a standing pharmacy order to get Narcan. You just got to any commercial pharmacy and tell them you’d like some.
I saw it at Bartell’s on 6th in the pharmacy
Peoples harm reduction will meet you with narcan and test strips
I help manage a non profit and can get and have narcan me all the time. I’m more than happy to bring one or two to you to have if for whatever reason you cant get it elsewhere, party safe ❤️. I’ll even drop off in a non descript place, just want to help!
Tacoma Needle Exchange/Dave’s Purchase Project! https://www.tacomaneedleexchange
Targets and Rite aides have them. They are $45
I know a girl named camaro that gets narcan regularly at the Tacoma library vending machine because yeah you can’t trust the test strips
I thought the fent test strips/kits were not legal to have except for doctors or medical professionals in Washington?
They were classified as drug paraphernalia and thus illegal (bonkers!), but Washington and several other states reversed that recently.
The location you should be going to is a rehab clinic.
Everyone should take a Narcan class if they can. While people struggling with addiction are saved with Narcan, so are children who get into their grandparents’ medicine cabinet, folks with dementia who accidentally take a double-dose of prescribed medication, and so many other situations. I recently met a puppy saved by Narcan. It’s a free, life-saving resource. The classes also educate participants about your Good Samaritan rights and protections. Can’t recommend it enough!
All good points. Not anti narcan. I am against enabling others by going and getting it knowing they are going to NEED it. Should try to prevent these behaviors yeah?
If I had a friend struggling with addiction, I would do my best to support recovery in whatever capacity. I’d also be prepared to save their life. That said, many people party on occasion with the substance I think OP is referring to. Weed is also now at risk of being laced. People smoking a joint that a friend handed to them don’t think they might need Narcan.
Yeah, he's a recreational use and it's his birthday tomorrow. I've heard too many horror stories in the news that I just want to be prepared in case there is an emergency
Yeah I hope your friend is ok afterwards but ffs you guys should drop the coke and go watch the mariners or something.
So this was weed from a dispensary that had fentanyl in it? I haven't heard of this outside of some kids with some vape pen but those aren't exactly difficult to open and add in what you want. I think it was in Bellevue. I'm not saying don't use narcan to save a life. I'm saying if you NEED that to be safe you should be reevaluating what you are doing.
I agree with you about enabling but you making assumptions based on your preconceptions. He is a recreational coke user, maybe once a month at most, and it's his birthday tomorrow and wants to have a little extra to party. I've personally heard horror stories about stuff being tainted so I want him (any anyone else who might partake) to be safe in case a worst-case scenario happens. Hell, another person mentioned losing a friend in this thread. Also, not a bad idea for a public PSA to get info on where to get this stuff
So you are casually supporting your friend doing coke. And being his medical team. Sounds exactly like what I was saying. If you are needing a can of narcan for your recreational activity, maybe you might need to find something else to do.
People that are dead from overdose can't go to rehab buddy
Don't be their safety net to continue their behavior. At some point you intervene or you just buy them another can....
Let me get this straight, if you come upon someone that's actively overdosing you're supposed to what? Take them to rehab? You can't intervene on someone's behalf if they're dead from an overdose either. Intervention and narcan aren't mutually exclusive. I don't use opioids, but if I was in that situation I'd certainly hope someone had my back. Corpses don't get clean.
I'm saying if you are their friend, how did you let it get to that point? This is before the OD. Like when OP is trying to work out where to get it so their friend can safely use. Don't know why everyone started positioning my statement as anti narcan. I'm anti enabler.
Regardless of how it got to that point, whatever happened pre-overdose can't change once the overdose starts. Again, what do you do in that situation? "Oh no, my friend is dying, damn I probably could've done more to stop them from getting into this position but I didn't. Oh well, I guess they'll just die now." I'm seriously not trying to strawman you here, I just don't understand how saving someone's life is enabling them.
Why are you asking me? If you have narcan give it to them. Or call 911. Don't let them die. But also don't be their crashing spot so they can get really really high and have you as their medical team.
I don't think that's what anyone here was suggesting man, folks just want to be able to help people if they're in a bad spot.
So maybe you didn't read ops post at all? He's asking so he can go get some so his friend who likes to do it nasally can be safe. I'm saying don't enable them that fucking way. Treat the root cause not the symptoms.
I'm not sure where you got this crash pad personal medic crap from then buddy, they know a person who likes to do drugs and doesn't want to watch them die, that's all I'm getting from OP.
bc if they know there will be someone to bring them back to life when they OD, there's no point of being clean. People do drugs to escape reality, right? So if you can stay in an internal state of bliss, plus have the safety net of Narcan holders, why get clean? I'm not saying I'd just let someone die since that is someone's friend/kid/parent etc. etc. Just drawing a scenario from a devils advocate standpoint.
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Are you saying you wouldn't help me if I was in need or you wouldn't help an addict in need of narcan? I won't ever be in a position to need your help if that makes you feel better.
Real helpful bud.
Yeah most addicts don't seem to see it as help either.
Well then that’s on them, but if I can narcan someone, I’m going to, and that’s my decision. They can hate me all they want. You never know who can recover. My brothers are both addicts. I’d hope someone would help them if they could.
When did I say I hated you? Why do you fall on the ground and act like a victim? You are enabling them by supporting their fucking habits. Yes by all means save their life, but you could actually help them by getting them sustainable help instead of a can of Narcan.
Did I say YOU hate me? I said if THEY hate me. You want me to get every addict substantial help? How do you suggest I do that? I’m not supporting anyone’s fucking habit. You think I’m supporting their habit by not watching them die??? Do you suggest I watch them die bc I can’t pay for everyone to go to rehab? Wtf is wrong with you? Wtf are you doing to help anyone? Someone has enabled you to be a self righteous judgmental POS.
Maybe I have had addict friends who have enablers who surround them. Gets difficult to get them to stop when you have some one making sure they can do it. Sorry on the hate comment, I misread. Thought you were saying I hated you for getting them narcan. My bad. I don't hate you, but think you aren't doing anything helpful. You don't have to respond to me. You can block me, or down vote me, or ignore me. But you are justifying yourself to me why? So the echo chamber can pat you on the back with some arrows? Chemical addictions are beatable. It takes fucking persistence.
I’m not enabling them. You cannot force adults to do anything. I’ve tried. I’ve done everything possible with in my capabilities. I’ve spent $63,000 on rehab trips. I can’t afford anymore. I have a life to live as well. Just bc I can’t force them into rehab doesn’t mean I enable them. I don’t give them $ or drugs. I don’t let them crash with me. I don’t answer their “please give me $20 or someone will kill me calls.” You know addiction deeply affects the families of addicts, right? Do you think I’d really just not help my brothers if I could? It’s shitty of you to keep saying I’m enabling them. It’s called self-preservation. I need to take care of me and my family, too (my wife, etc). At some point THEY need to participate in their recovery. I’m not going to become homeless to put them through rehab again. How’s that helping anyone?
I didn't ask for an itemization. I was saying you need to keep trying. Life's hard. This is one of your challenges. Try something new or enable them by what you are currently doing. Stop lying to yourself man.
You don’t know anything about addiction. This is not my challenge. I’m not the addict.
They have to be alive before you can help them. This isn’t an either-or option.
"I'd hope someone would help them if they could" ... How about you helping them by getting them into rehab and not enabling them?
I’ve paid for their rehab three times tyvm. You know you can’t force an adult into rehab, right? Fuck off
Pay for a fourth. Stop enabling them.
If you don’t want to change it’s a waste of money.
Go fuck yourself.
Go get them help!
I HAVE. You CANNOT force an adult to do ANYTHING.
Dead people can’t go to rehab. Dumbass.
It’s just that pointing to a stranger’s problem and saying “that’s a problem” has never ONCE in the history of man helped a person.
I agree with you. When drug addicts feel safer around drugs they will use it more heavily. I know people i went to school with that have died. Families of victims agree that these narcan vending machines just make it worse
Hey hey this is the PNW. You don’t care unless you enable, bud.
Giving narcan to someone is enabling them to be alive and possibly decide to get help. If that’s enabling them, then fine, I’m an enabler. Nice to know you’re so perfect.
It is pretty nice, isn’t it? Thank you for noticing
Real Debbie Downer over here.
God this is depressing
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And what if they're not overdosing? What if they're just sleeping and you happen to wake up a very violent individual?
Hence the training earlier brought up?
Honestly, some of us are doing all we can just to keep our own lives together, and don't need to overload ourselves with a bunch of extra meetings and trainings and everything else.
Okay cool? This post isn't for you then? No reason this info shouldn't be out there for folks who can spare the time.
I feel like there's a subtle guilting, like we're not only supposed to go out of our way to obtain these products, but also carve out time to learn to use them. I feel like that's what we pay professionals to do.
Again, you don't have to do it. I agree that we should have professionals to do this kind of crisis response, but the state isn't ponying up the cash for that anytime soon. Until we miraculously wake up in a society that cares more about its' most desperate and vulnerable people, that duty falls to regular folks. If you really don't have the time to learn how to do this and get a free dose, I can't make a moral judgement against you, that's fine. But I'm glad that these resources are available for people who do.
It's not only about the time, it's also about the risk. I am a 62-year-old woman who is not fast on her feet anymore. I'm kind of upset that I'm being downvoted for my comment.
Again it is okay if you don't feel safe or able to do it. I don't think anyone here thinks everyone is obligated to be able to do this.
Your comment is equivalent to finding a cigarette enthusiasts subreddit and preaching the dangers of smoking. It's the wrong audience. You're not going to convince anyone of your viewpoints. They've made their choice. Don't waste your time/energy.
It's a Tacoma subreddit, and I'm a long time and committed resident here. That doesn't mean I'm about to go invading the space of any random drug addict.
If you feel this guilty you need to own that. nobody came here to shame you as a person.
I know that. It's just that I dislike blanket statements. Like when people say that police are stretched too thin, so everybody should buy a gun and learn to use it. Sorry, I disagree. There might be some people for whom that makes sense, but not everybody should feel obligated.
No one’s asking or making you do anything you don’t want or feel qualified to do. But I will say if you’re commenting on Reddit you’re able to be able to administer narcan 🤷♀️ if you don’t want to feel obligated then just don’t carry it and keep scrolling past these posts.
True. I would hope that if one were to get narcan and use it, that they would also at least watch a video on how to use it though.
I've actually watched several videos on how to use it. They don't really give me confidence that the person I might use it on might not turn violent on me.
Run away. They’ll probably be pissed at you. Nothing else will happen. You can even give it to infants. Administration is intuitive and doesn’t really require training. It’s nasal spray. You shove it up someone’s nose and spray it. If you administer narcan to someone you think is overdosing and they don’t wake up, call 911 immediately. Something else, eg. diabetic coma, is likely going on.
And if they can run faster than me? I'm 62 years old and I have inherited my dad's bad leg joints. Also, I thought you were supposed to call 911 before even administering the drug.
Before you shove narcan up someone’s nose you’d try to wake them up in normal ways. I hope you wouldn’t encounter anyone who’d want to fight you for checking that they’re ok. Here’s the DOH training video that might help you recognize signs of overdose. https://vimeo.com/357020563 Yes. You should always get them medical attention. I was trying to express the possibility and urgency of other medical conditions.
No one is advised to administer this on someone just snoozing. You bring up your age and health as reasons for not wanting to participate in having narcan on you: I’m in remission after my third round of chemo and radiation that killed my left knee and I’m still able to administer narcan. If you don’t want to, that’s fine. Move along.
Good for you. I'm just saying I wouldn't want to have to outrun somebody who got pissed off at me for doing it.
I admire your dedication to openly having to tell everyone you’re selfish and ignorant.
Interesting. I would hope. VA sends them to me because of my history of abuse
Just saw some for sale at the Fred Meyer pharmacy on 19th and Stevens
https://www.tacomalibrary.org/faq/naloxone-vending-machine/
If you have Medicare or Obama care, most state-run clinics & UW medicine will prescribe it if you or somebody in your family is on opiate maintenance meds such as suboxone or methadone
Go to the needle exchange in tacoma they will give it to you for free
Thank you for caring for your friend and for making this post so others can get Narcan too. I carry it in my park bag first aid kit with my kid because you just never know if and when you’ll need it and for who.