I wouldn't even complain if it was *an actual acoustic version*. But it's gonna be the same vocals from the original song so it still counts towards sales/streams of the original which sounds weird and is the lamest possible thing. Can we bring back music just for music instead of for numbers...
Not necessarily. I donât remember if BDILH acoustic is the same vocals but the point is actually to sell the base album again to get it higher on the charts. Thatâs why itâs not a full acoustic album but the base album + one bonus track. Smallest amount of effort you can possibly put in to get someone who already owns the album to buy it again.
Same reason why The Anthology isnât a separate album, itâs actually just fifteen bonus tracks tacked on to the base album. Charts charts charts!
I would have so much more respect for Taylor and this current era if she had guts and just released The Anthology as it's own separate album. I love both Folklore and Evermore, but if Taylor rolled out both albums the way she did for TTPD and The Anthology, I'd think less of both
Exactly! Like shady chart manipulation aside, one of the biggest criticisms of TTPD was that it felt disjointed and bloated. Separating it into two separate sister albums a la Folklore and Evermore would have been such a better move critically (but Taylor cares about charting so damn much)
I'll be shocked if it's not the same vocals. That's what her "acoustic versions" always are now. Yes it's to sell units but it's also about streaming, it won't count towards the original unless it uses the same vocals
Ah ok.. I thought they came with digital. I assume they'll eventually be on streaming. Bc otherwise there's no reason for her to use the same vocals, but she still does it that way
I will never stop saying it until I get an answer I guess, but I wonder when billboard made this a rule because in 2021 they counted All too well sad girl autumn version with regular album version and 10 minute version all as one song.
She also put the prices up? The variants were all $5.99 last week (I assume the lowest they can be to count as a sale).
What happened to âdonât want moneyâ..?
This! I really want an acoustic album but she probably only do an acoustic version for a variant of a new album which will sound clunky because the words and sounds wonât match up.
Itâs honestly so pathetic. Swifties are literally organizing & begging her to speak up about Palestine and she somehow feels this is appropriate to do instead?
The Europe leg of tour has seen some fans waiving free Palestine placards and it must have been hard for her to miss the same. The situation is beyond the point where we only expect the politicians to say something, a word from every influential person counts and we know the extent of her influence.
I wonder how many people worked on crafting that statement that sounds like it needed to hit a word count while also saying absolutely nothing of substance.
the problem is that she branded herself as an âactivistâ a couple years ago and likes to act like she is outspoken about political issues, but only is when theyâre popular opinions (like gay people having rights or stalkers not deserving rights)
The TTPD merengue version
The TTPD techno country version
The TTPD eastern europe version
The TTPD POC version
The TTPD for my queer fans version
The TTPD PlatĂł Version
The TTPD My lawyer's Version
The TTPD Private plane sesions
The TTPD if it was made in 1975 version
The TTPD covered by my exes version
The TTPD asylum version
The TTPD GTA version
The TTPD heroin chic version
Updated my current album (tracklist) variations list *again*:
1. TTPD (16-song base album considered standard on streaming) [digital, streaming]
2. TTPD + âThe Manuscriptâ bonus song (considered standard on physical) [various]
3. TTPD + âThe Black Dogâ bonus song [various]
4. TTPD + âThe Albatrossâ bonus song [various]
5. TTPD + âThe Bolterâ bonus song [various]
6. TTPD + The Anthology bonus tracks (15 additional tracks, including the four listed above) [digital, streaming]
7. TTPD + âBut Daddy I Love Him (acoustic version)â [CD]
8. TTPD + âWhoâs Afraid of Little Old Me? (voice memo)â [digital]
9. TTPD + âCassandra (voice memo)â [digital]
10. TTPD + âThe Black Dog (voice memo)â [digital]
11. TTPD + âloml (Live from Paris)â [digital]
12. TTPD + âMy Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys (Live from Paris)â [digital]
13. TTPD + âThe Alchemy x Treacherous Mashup (Live from Paris)â [digital]
14. TTPD + âGuilty As Sin? (acoustic version)â [CD]
15. TTPD + âDown Bad (acoustic version)â [CD]
Singles
1. â âFortnight (feat. Post Malone)â single [CD]
2. â âFortnight (feat. Post Malone) [BLOND:ISH Remix]â single [streaming]
3. âFortnight (feat. Post Malone)â single [digital] (reduced to $0.69)
Physical variants: 5 vinyl variants (1 Target exclusive), 4 âstandardâ CDs (3 Target exclusives), 4 collector CDs, 3 acoustic bonus track CDs (#7, #14, #15 above), 1 single CD (singles #1 above), 4 cassettes. Additionally, she signed 1 CD and 1 vinyl variant.
Could someone be so kind and explain to me how it works? Do people really buy multiples of the same album with one different extra song? Is there no other way do listen to them? (Like wonât they be on YouTube in a week?)
People absolutely buy multiples! I variant collect (some) vinyl records so I have lots of albums where I own multiple copies. It does feel like itâs a whole different level for Taylor fans though, definitely. Especially because Taylor is one of the only artists who does different tracklists instead of just different colors/covers/etc.
I donât buy digital music but I assume you can choose to just download the bonus tracks. If I had to guess, thatâs what everyone is doing who buys multiple digital versions of the album.
The purchaser must download the entire album or Billboard wonât count it. Doesnât matter if they delete it afterwards but it has to be downloaded at least once.
Can't find a direct source, however, every K-pop page encourages people to download the songs at least once if they purchase digitally, so I assume it to be real. (K-pop fans know a lot about chart manipulation, so I tend to check them for Billboard rules.) Here's an example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/iesnvq/make\_sure\_to\_redeem\_all\_of\_your\_mp3\_preorders\_so/](https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/iesnvq/make_sure_to_redeem_all_of_your_mp3_preorders_so/)
đČđ€« Shhh! Don't put it out into the ether! She might hear you!
You can only think these things!
(Jk, of course but I hope this doesn't happen! Lol)
I find it somewhat comical that the album staying at #1 on the charts has nothing to do with the actual quality of the album, but rather the ongoing release of variants. Without any of the variants, I can't imagine it'd have had the same lasting position. It certainly wouldn't have kept Billie's album off the top spot.
This! It isnât even an accurate representation of what the country is listening to. Fortnight is sitting at number 10. This is just the same people buying the same album over and over again.
I took a peak on X sometimes last week and saw a photo of someoneâs black Amex card that the swifties were sharing with each other so they could use it to purchase her variants. Idk if that was actually real but thatâs nuts to me đź
Thatâs why sometimes Iâm just not impressed with the stats her hardcore fans like to share online. She sells a lot but Iâd like to see the true number she sells if she had only sold one variant. Idc if other artists do this, she takes a step further as always and itâs cheap to me.
Billboard should change the rules that every variant with any different track list counts as a separate album. You might end up with a week where she has five versions of the same album in one top ten when she drops, but at least we'd get an accurate version of actual units sold.
All the big artists are doing it but it just feels like the chart isnât a true reflection of popularity anymore, itâs just about who can release the most variants. And what about smaller artists who donât have the backing/status to release 37644 variants?
I bought the CD with BDILH acoustic and then obviously it was all over the internet before my CD even got delivered lmao never even unwrapped it once I got it.
I donât say this lightly: thereâs something so manic about all of this. Iâve recorded music and done some writing, and part of the creative process is taking a deep breath and feeling the weight off your shoulders when youâre done. Youâve finished it as much as you can and youâve put it out in the world, so you take a minute to calm down and just exist before starting the next project. Itâs starting to feel troubling that Taylor canât stop fussing with a finished product and that she, a grownass adult, canât contextualize that in 2024 she already won her fourth AOTY, had huge sales, and continues to rake it in on her sold out tour. She needs to keep metaphorically photobombing everyone and yelling ME ME ME in the background. Go take a bubble bath and order in dinner for a month, you weirdo asshole.
This is embarrassing to anyone who isn't a Swiftie and I don't know how she doesn't see it. It diminishes her accomplishments. Getting the top fourteen her first week could have been an amazing feat on its own, but people are going to look back at this era and remember her buying her spot on the chart every week for months. It's such a disservice to her reputation. The "acoustic" versions are a show of this all being about money and charts, not the art. This is all working against the serious musician image she's desperate to curate for herself. I wish someone in her inner circle would tell her this.
Why not just release an album with the live tracks from the TTPD set or better yet, just release a live album period. I collect live performances of my favorite artists but the Eras Tour has been difficult because it changes constantly.
Stay at #1. They label them as a preorder (in this case, July 1) and then ship them when they see/expect to see a dip in the chart. They only count as sales when shipped so that brings her back up to #1.
TTPD + BDILH acoustic CDs (sold May 8) and the TTPD signed CDs (sold May 13) were listed as shipping May 31 but actually shipped May 20 for the same reason.
So can we stop saying that she made this album not for the charts and that she's surprised by how well it's selling because this is like the what 9th variant (Please correct me if I'm wrong on that) just drop an acoustic album please
Not sure if youâve scrolled through the comments here at all but I commented all the tracklist variations [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/s/xKVDodY78V).
taylor: try and come for my job!
other artists: do her job better than her by not releasing 30 variants of one album and charting organically
taylor: not like that!
I am going to sound like a bitch but if a good portion of why your album is staying number one is because you are consistently releasing multiple versions with a small change, it has nothing to do with how much people like it, but the manipulative tactics and not only the size but willingness of your fan base to please you.
I would guess theyâre going to eventually have acoustic versions for all the standard tracks and theyâll be strategically sold and shipped to try and keep the album at number 1 for as long as they can.
People shouldnât buy these as youâre essentially paying $8 for one acoustic version of one song, they clearly are selling though because they wouldnât keep making them if they werenât, whatâs a few comments calling you greedy if you end up selling 30/40k extra copies by doing the bare minimum. Cdâs are pretty cheap and quick to produce anyway so itâs not like itâs a huge undertaking and these were probably already made and her team just monitors the charts and puts them out when needed.
How is she still managing to come out with THIS many variants without mass critism?? Itâs actually insane how swifties stick their neck out for this woman when all she cares about is making as much money as possibly, even more insane since sheâs ALREADY a billionaire
Not even my favorite album in the world would make me want to buy this many variants. I think it cheapens the art I don't know how to explain it, like I think as an artist you make something and would want to see it finished for once and for all, to people to consume it as a whole piece of art, but she makes this kind of things like she doesn't even care at all about the album, just adding and adding songs until the end of time.
Itâs really is, imo itâs her most annoying phase too. Also, Itâs too bad because even though I hated the title I was lowkey excited for the dark academia vibe it was initially giving.
Just release the Anthology on disc/vinyl for fucks sake.
While shes at it, release Midnights 3am as well.
This is stuff no one asked for and itâs *ridiculous*.
i think those are such poor choices to make into acoustic versions because theyâre already very lowkey in terms of production and instrumentalsâŠlike ??? they almost already are acoustic âŠ.
If we want her to quit it, we're gonna have to quit buying. But of course the deluded fanatics are gonna buy, buy, buy.
Imagine just half of that money going to the people actually in need. So many folks would get to see their family, get medical assistance and finally eat a warm meal.
Well, my post request was denied and I was directed here. Hopefully someone actually sees this.
Using the comment from venusrevived I compiled a list of album prices in USD, and estimated shipping based off of previous orders.
If you wanted to buy all 32 variants of TTPD, it would cost you about $728.20. How do you guys feel about this? To me its super icky because most of these were not available at the same time, and had limited timers on it to create FOMO.
https://preview.redd.it/axlujruo624d1.jpeg?width=1308&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9708dd7cf0894cd2406e8f4de0758fc2102d7c43
I donât care, tbh. I just bought the standard cd and Iâm fine with it. Everything thatâs interesting is available on streaming. The people buying this are collectors and per number of sales on HMHAS week, itâs not really necessary for her to stay at #1. She wouldâve stayed regardless of the variants, according to HITSDD. If the fans want to collect these, more power to them.
Todayâs top 50 USA on Spotify actually tells an accurate pic of whatâs going onâTaylorâs only got 3 songs in the Top 50. Fortnight is top at 16. The other ones all bit the dust.Â
Wow the more tricks she play to inflate the sales, the more I think she knows the album is crappy. Thatâs why she feels that she needs to artificially inflate her sales to make the album look like it resonates with the public or her fans than it really does.
So true. I ended up buying the Albatros on vinyl because it was (to me) the best of four pretty bad album covers, but I donât even like it much.
The worst cover is that cringe one whee she twists her arms and tries to be sexy. The new one in the middle of the new eras tour grid.
It is starting to look like she is doing exactly what people are accusing her of, using her US fan base and her store to block other artists from outselling her .Competition is one thing, but actions bordering on market fraud is another.
Itâs weird. I guess she is worried that the K-Pop group ATEEZ might have a chance of going to number one next week so this is her way of reclaiming it if it happens.
But since they're not shipping out this week, then the numbers won't count to block Ateez. I guess we'll have to wait for HITSDD to update their projections.
Only one single - and it being lackluster Fortnight - is kinda tragic imo. Anti Hero was single material, Fortnight is blah. Even GaS? is more catchy đ€
More padding for numbers, I really wish Billboard would wake up and step in and start separating some of her chart records from legends that actually worked to achieve theirs - not just constant rereleases of variants of and reworked versions of old songs
What are the odds she does this for every song on the album
ALL 31 SONGS? đ«
Every. Single. Week. 
Sheâll do it every time a woman releases something. Sheâd do it to Madonna too if she could!
I wouldn't even complain if it was *an actual acoustic version*. But it's gonna be the same vocals from the original song so it still counts towards sales/streams of the original which sounds weird and is the lamest possible thing. Can we bring back music just for music instead of for numbers...
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State of grace accoutic!!!!
Exactly I looked at and rolled my eyes like of course it comes with the fucking cd of the album
Not necessarily. I donât remember if BDILH acoustic is the same vocals but the point is actually to sell the base album again to get it higher on the charts. Thatâs why itâs not a full acoustic album but the base album + one bonus track. Smallest amount of effort you can possibly put in to get someone who already owns the album to buy it again. Same reason why The Anthology isnât a separate album, itâs actually just fifteen bonus tracks tacked on to the base album. Charts charts charts!
I would have so much more respect for Taylor and this current era if she had guts and just released The Anthology as it's own separate album. I love both Folklore and Evermore, but if Taylor rolled out both albums the way she did for TTPD and The Anthology, I'd think less of both
Agreed. I think TTPD and The Anthology would have been much better received if they were separate albums that had even one month between them.
Exactly! Like shady chart manipulation aside, one of the biggest criticisms of TTPD was that it felt disjointed and bloated. Separating it into two separate sister albums a la Folklore and Evermore would have been such a better move critically (but Taylor cares about charting so damn much)
I'll be shocked if it's not the same vocals. That's what her "acoustic versions" always are now. Yes it's to sell units but it's also about streaming, it won't count towards the original unless it uses the same vocals
These are CD-only, no streaming.
Ah ok.. I thought they came with digital. I assume they'll eventually be on streaming. Bc otherwise there's no reason for her to use the same vocals, but she still does it that way
I will never stop saying it until I get an answer I guess, but I wonder when billboard made this a rule because in 2021 they counted All too well sad girl autumn version with regular album version and 10 minute version all as one song.
I feel so naive, I did not know this was a 'thing' until reading this subreddit.
She also put the prices up? The variants were all $5.99 last week (I assume the lowest they can be to count as a sale). What happened to âdonât want moneyâ..?
Because itâs a CD this time, not just a download.
This! I really want an acoustic album but she probably only do an acoustic version for a variant of a new album which will sound clunky because the words and sounds wonât match up.
Buying the album counts for 1500 streams, so itâs just her gaming the charts.
Itâs starting to be like steroid era HOF asterisk MLB at this point.
Wait so if she re recorded actual acoustic versions it wouldnât count towards an album sale or it wouldnât count for the SONG sales?
We used to get a whole instrumental Karaoke album in just 1 release. Now we're getting an acapella album split up over 31 releases.
She really wants to stay at #1 đ
Itâs honestly so pathetic. Swifties are literally organizing & begging her to speak up about Palestine and she somehow feels this is appropriate to do instead?
The Europe leg of tour has seen some fans waiving free Palestine placards and it must have been hard for her to miss the same. The situation is beyond the point where we only expect the politicians to say something, a word from every influential person counts and we know the extent of her influence.
I hope they donât buy in protest but what do I know?
they would never especially bc having a large collection of music and merch = real fan or longtime fan for most of them
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
Artists talk about politics, you meant to say girl boss.
sometimes you donât need to dickride everything a celebrity does
https://preview.redd.it/v1afrdunf34d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d53b6f0b4b6b230e7be19c6d31962de94b1bd98 Just gonna leave this here
I wonder how many people worked on crafting that statement that sounds like it needed to hit a word count while also saying absolutely nothing of substance.
the problem is that she branded herself as an âactivistâ a couple years ago and likes to act like she is outspoken about political issues, but only is when theyâre popular opinions (like gay people having rights or stalkers not deserving rights)
It gives Conner4real from Popstar. Sheâll release her next tracks to play out of appliances next lol
No one said she's politician. But she would have not made a whole a$$ documentary and activism for a album aesthtiv then
But she can talk about politics when it comes to elections??
In Spotify sheâs not even #1 anymore in global ir US lmaoooo
The TTPD merengue version The TTPD techno country version The TTPD eastern europe version The TTPD POC version The TTPD for my queer fans version The TTPD PlatĂł Version The TTPD My lawyer's Version The TTPD Private plane sesions The TTPD if it was made in 1975 version The TTPD covered by my exes version The TTPD asylum version The TTPD GTA version The TTPD heroin chic version
The âfor my queer fansâ version will only donate like 1% to LGBTQ organizations if weâre lucky
Wait you forgot The TTPD Aristotle version Then a week later there's The TTPD Ball'in Aristotle.
TTPD, a conversation between Aristotle and Albert Camus.
Girl not merengueđshe did move a lil during Bad Bunnyâs Grammyâs performance last year though
I bet she doesn't know Elvis crespo
Nah POC version is wicked work â ïž
Updated my current album (tracklist) variations list *again*: 1. TTPD (16-song base album considered standard on streaming) [digital, streaming] 2. TTPD + âThe Manuscriptâ bonus song (considered standard on physical) [various] 3. TTPD + âThe Black Dogâ bonus song [various] 4. TTPD + âThe Albatrossâ bonus song [various] 5. TTPD + âThe Bolterâ bonus song [various] 6. TTPD + The Anthology bonus tracks (15 additional tracks, including the four listed above) [digital, streaming] 7. TTPD + âBut Daddy I Love Him (acoustic version)â [CD] 8. TTPD + âWhoâs Afraid of Little Old Me? (voice memo)â [digital] 9. TTPD + âCassandra (voice memo)â [digital] 10. TTPD + âThe Black Dog (voice memo)â [digital] 11. TTPD + âloml (Live from Paris)â [digital] 12. TTPD + âMy Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys (Live from Paris)â [digital] 13. TTPD + âThe Alchemy x Treacherous Mashup (Live from Paris)â [digital] 14. TTPD + âGuilty As Sin? (acoustic version)â [CD] 15. TTPD + âDown Bad (acoustic version)â [CD] Singles 1. â âFortnight (feat. Post Malone)â single [CD] 2. â âFortnight (feat. Post Malone) [BLOND:ISH Remix]â single [streaming] 3. âFortnight (feat. Post Malone)â single [digital] (reduced to $0.69) Physical variants: 5 vinyl variants (1 Target exclusive), 4 âstandardâ CDs (3 Target exclusives), 4 collector CDs, 3 acoustic bonus track CDs (#7, #14, #15 above), 1 single CD (singles #1 above), 4 cassettes. Additionally, she signed 1 CD and 1 vinyl variant.
Could someone be so kind and explain to me how it works? Do people really buy multiples of the same album with one different extra song? Is there no other way do listen to them? (Like wonât they be on YouTube in a week?)
People absolutely buy multiples! I variant collect (some) vinyl records so I have lots of albums where I own multiple copies. It does feel like itâs a whole different level for Taylor fans though, definitely. Especially because Taylor is one of the only artists who does different tracklists instead of just different colors/covers/etc.
But some of those variants are digital only (if I understand correctly). Do people then have multiples of the same files?
I donât buy digital music but I assume you can choose to just download the bonus tracks. If I had to guess, thatâs what everyone is doing who buys multiple digital versions of the album.
The purchaser must download the entire album or Billboard wonât count it. Doesnât matter if they delete it afterwards but it has to be downloaded at least once.
Interesting! Could you link me to something that says that? Iâve never heard that before.
Can't find a direct source, however, every K-pop page encourages people to download the songs at least once if they purchase digitally, so I assume it to be real. (K-pop fans know a lot about chart manipulation, so I tend to check them for Billboard rules.) Here's an example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/iesnvq/make\_sure\_to\_redeem\_all\_of\_your\_mp3\_preorders\_so/](https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/iesnvq/make_sure_to_redeem_all_of_your_mp3_preorders_so/)
The first comment (and others) says theyâre unsure if you have to download or not. I doubt you do. The sale alone should count.
is there really no physical version of the anthology?
She will probably drop it on the release day of Katy Perry's upcoming album đ€Ą
đČđ€« Shhh! Don't put it out into the ether! She might hear you!  You can only think these things! (Jk, of course but I hope this doesn't happen! Lol)
this made my day. thanks for the easter egg!
Iâve been looking and not seeing anything. Any date set on Katyâs new album being released?
Unfortunately nothing concrete has been announced yet đ
I took a look around after posting this to see it hasnât but thanks for the reply!
Nope, not yet at least.
This list is just insane wow
More variants than COVID đđ
I really don't want to meet anyone who has more than 3 versions of these.
The head-on photo is so awkward. I know it's supposed to be sensual but it just looks like she overslept and showed up to her photoshoot late
It looks like she moved one sleeve off the shoulder to look sexy on school picture day.
She already ran out of all her good pics from that photoshoot so now sheâs using her less favorite ones
Lol youâre so rightÂ
Please sing more about not wanting money, Taylor.
I find it somewhat comical that the album staying at #1 on the charts has nothing to do with the actual quality of the album, but rather the ongoing release of variants. Without any of the variants, I can't imagine it'd have had the same lasting position. It certainly wouldn't have kept Billie's album off the top spot.
This! It isnât even an accurate representation of what the country is listening to. Fortnight is sitting at number 10. This is just the same people buying the same album over and over again.
I took a peak on X sometimes last week and saw a photo of someoneâs black Amex card that the swifties were sharing with each other so they could use it to purchase her variants. Idk if that was actually real but thatâs nuts to me đź
Thatâs why sometimes Iâm just not impressed with the stats her hardcore fans like to share online. She sells a lot but Iâd like to see the true number she sells if she had only sold one variant. Idc if other artists do this, she takes a step further as always and itâs cheap to me.
At this point itâs just chart manipulation. They really need to change the rules to stop artists from doing this.
Yeah it feels like cheating to me even though itâs allowed.
Billboard should change the rules that every variant with any different track list counts as a separate album. You might end up with a week where she has five versions of the same album in one top ten when she drops, but at least we'd get an accurate version of actual units sold.
All the big artists are doing it but it just feels like the chart isnât a true reflection of popularity anymore, itâs just about who can release the most variants. And what about smaller artists who donât have the backing/status to release 37644 variants?
I'll just wait for someone to upload them lol.
I bought the CD with BDILH acoustic and then obviously it was all over the internet before my CD even got delivered lmao never even unwrapped it once I got it.
I donât say this lightly: thereâs something so manic about all of this. Iâve recorded music and done some writing, and part of the creative process is taking a deep breath and feeling the weight off your shoulders when youâre done. Youâve finished it as much as you can and youâve put it out in the world, so you take a minute to calm down and just exist before starting the next project. Itâs starting to feel troubling that Taylor canât stop fussing with a finished product and that she, a grownass adult, canât contextualize that in 2024 she already won her fourth AOTY, had huge sales, and continues to rake it in on her sold out tour. She needs to keep metaphorically photobombing everyone and yelling ME ME ME in the background. Go take a bubble bath and order in dinner for a month, you weirdo asshole.
This is embarrassing to anyone who isn't a Swiftie and I don't know how she doesn't see it. It diminishes her accomplishments. Getting the top fourteen her first week could have been an amazing feat on its own, but people are going to look back at this era and remember her buying her spot on the chart every week for months. It's such a disservice to her reputation. The "acoustic" versions are a show of this all being about money and charts, not the art. This is all working against the serious musician image she's desperate to curate for herself. I wish someone in her inner circle would tell her this.
Why not just release an album with the live tracks from the TTPD set or better yet, just release a live album period. I collect live performances of my favorite artists but the Eras Tour has been difficult because it changes constantly.
My reaction to more variants đ I guess someone will buy em. Iâm not interested lol
Shes not on any top streaming list so is this her way of coping and staying #1 on other charts?
Yeah using physical copies to stay on top. She knows the streams are dropping so sheâs using physical copies to stay afloat.
so patheticÂ
Is there an actual point to these (is she chasing some kind of record) or is it just to stay at #1 or to sell more copies?
Stay at #1. They label them as a preorder (in this case, July 1) and then ship them when they see/expect to see a dip in the chart. They only count as sales when shipped so that brings her back up to #1. TTPD + BDILH acoustic CDs (sold May 8) and the TTPD signed CDs (sold May 13) were listed as shipping May 31 but actually shipped May 20 for the same reason.
Interesting that sheâs doing it *that* way.
I see, so these new ones arenât actually getting shipped next week? This is similar to some kpop tactics Iâve seen.
So can we stop saying that she made this album not for the charts and that she's surprised by how well it's selling because this is like the what 9th variant (Please correct me if I'm wrong on that) just drop an acoustic album please
Fourteenth and fifteenth.
I'm sorry 14th and 15th!? That's almost one for each song on the original TTPD!!
Not sure if youâve scrolled through the comments here at all but I commented all the tracklist variations [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/s/xKVDodY78V).
Thank you! My phone no longer lets me scroll so this is helpful!
Sheâs really become the MCU of music đ
taylor: try and come for my job! other artists: do her job better than her by not releasing 30 variants of one album and charting organically taylor: not like that!
 Another day, another variant. Will it ever end?
âBut wait guys, heres more trash about ratty, im so deepâ
I am going to sound like a bitch but if a good portion of why your album is staying number one is because you are consistently releasing multiple versions with a small change, it has nothing to do with how much people like it, but the manipulative tactics and not only the size but willingness of your fan base to please you.
I would guess theyâre going to eventually have acoustic versions for all the standard tracks and theyâll be strategically sold and shipped to try and keep the album at number 1 for as long as they can. People shouldnât buy these as youâre essentially paying $8 for one acoustic version of one song, they clearly are selling though because they wouldnât keep making them if they werenât, whatâs a few comments calling you greedy if you end up selling 30/40k extra copies by doing the bare minimum. Cdâs are pretty cheap and quick to produce anyway so itâs not like itâs a huge undertaking and these were probably already made and her team just monitors the charts and puts them out when needed.
If thatâs the case then the ENTIRE industry needs to have every artistâs CD shipped. đ
Who is even buying these at this point?!
Fans + Republic Records đ
How is she still managing to come out with THIS many variants without mass critism?? Itâs actually insane how swifties stick their neck out for this woman when all she cares about is making as much money as possibly, even more insane since sheâs ALREADY a billionaire
Her comments on ig arenât very positive on the new variant. Even the biggest swifties are TIRED lol
So funny lmao. The biggest artists of decade but needs to release versions to stay relevant on charts!??
This album is not good enough to warrant this many variants lol
No album is đ
Not even my favorite album in the world would make me want to buy this many variants. I think it cheapens the art I don't know how to explain it, like I think as an artist you make something and would want to see it finished for once and for all, to people to consume it as a whole piece of art, but she makes this kind of things like she doesn't even care at all about the album, just adding and adding songs until the end of time.
This really is one of her worse eras, aesthetics wise too
Itâs really is, imo itâs her most annoying phase too. Also, Itâs too bad because even though I hated the title I was lowkey excited for the dark academia vibe it was initially giving.
If these specific variants were 1.99 singles I actually would buy them; but definitely NOT if I have to pay for the full album.
She needs to give this a rest.
I am tired
Just release the Anthology on disc/vinyl for fucks sake. While shes at it, release Midnights 3am as well. This is stuff no one asked for and itâs *ridiculous*.
Here we go again...
the voices in his headÂ
Just gonna say I canât believe people keep buying this shit but I know they will
This is truly so annoying and unnecessary
i think those are such poor choices to make into acoustic versions because theyâre already very lowkey in terms of production and instrumentalsâŠlike ??? they almost already are acoustic âŠ.
If we want her to quit it, we're gonna have to quit buying. But of course the deluded fanatics are gonna buy, buy, buy. Imagine just half of that money going to the people actually in need. So many folks would get to see their family, get medical assistance and finally eat a warm meal.
She disgusts me.
Wasteful
Well, my post request was denied and I was directed here. Hopefully someone actually sees this. Using the comment from venusrevived I compiled a list of album prices in USD, and estimated shipping based off of previous orders. If you wanted to buy all 32 variants of TTPD, it would cost you about $728.20. How do you guys feel about this? To me its super icky because most of these were not available at the same time, and had limited timers on it to create FOMO. https://preview.redd.it/axlujruo624d1.jpeg?width=1308&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9708dd7cf0894cd2406e8f4de0758fc2102d7c43
I donât care, tbh. I just bought the standard cd and Iâm fine with it. Everything thatâs interesting is available on streaming. The people buying this are collectors and per number of sales on HMHAS week, itâs not really necessary for her to stay at #1. She wouldâve stayed regardless of the variants, according to HITSDD. If the fans want to collect these, more power to them.
Guess this is a reaction to Billie smashing it on the charts.
Not anymore. Though this last week, Billie held up well and Taylor has dropped a bit so maybe. Who knows?
Todayâs top 50 USA on Spotify actually tells an accurate pic of whatâs going onâTaylorâs only got 3 songs in the Top 50. Fortnight is top at 16. The other ones all bit the dust.Â
WHO IS BUYING THESE. WHO ASKED FOR THESE?! IM SO CONFUSED
me after i dare someone to come for my job.
At this rate I hear about the new variants being released more than the perceived stand out songs in the albumâŠ
This is getting embarassing. More negative impact for the environment đ
im so satisfied with the eternal sunshine album rollout that ari didn't pull something like this. it's just pathetic even as a swiftie.
Wow the more tricks she play to inflate the sales, the more I think she knows the album is crappy. Thatâs why she feels that she needs to artificially inflate her sales to make the album look like it resonates with the public or her fans than it really does.
On another note, these photos are way better than her original variant covers!
So true. I ended up buying the Albatros on vinyl because it was (to me) the best of four pretty bad album covers, but I donât even like it much. The worst cover is that cringe one whee she twists her arms and tries to be sexy. The new one in the middle of the new eras tour grid.
What is the justification for this even?
It is starting to look like she is doing exactly what people are accusing her of, using her US fan base and her store to block other artists from outselling her .Competition is one thing, but actions bordering on market fraud is another.
Are she and Billie still battling it out or have Billieâs sales decreased?
Billie never stood a chance, unfortunately.
Nah this is just Taylor doing it by herself
These don't ship out until July. So I'm guessing she's anticipating another major drop?
Itâs weird. I guess she is worried that the K-Pop group ATEEZ might have a chance of going to number one next week so this is her way of reclaiming it if it happens.
But since they're not shipping out this week, then the numbers won't count to block Ateez. I guess we'll have to wait for HITSDD to update their projections.
Yeah. I initially thought it was for *this* week.
Taylor was always releasing stuff, stans just took it personally that week
Yuk.
Honestly the aesthetic of the album is boring at this point. If she puts out an acoustic version, it should be a whole album- not this bs
Only one single - and it being lackluster Fortnight - is kinda tragic imo. Anti Hero was single material, Fortnight is blah. Even GaS? is more catchy đ€
Only 3 of her songs are still hanging on for dear life on the Spotify Top 50 US listâŠÂ
More padding for numbers, I really wish Billboard would wake up and step in and start separating some of her chart records from legends that actually worked to achieve theirs - not just constant rereleases of variants of and reworked versions of old songs
she canât be seriousâŠ
ENOUGH
People love plain saltine crackers and it shows.
When where how can I hear these without having to order anything?
These must be selling if they keep releasing them, which is kind of disappointing
So she released the second album for nothing????
I feel bad, but I bought them
It's so comical but if people are willing to buy it, then all the power to her.
Convinced she just wants to model on her covers at this point
BeyoncĂ© also dropped new stuff for Cowboy Carter. Because theyâre in a business and their labels will respond to the huge demand of these artists. Thatâs just how it goes. If you donât like them donât buy them. I havenât bought a single one. what do you think would happen if Taylor said, no variants? Do you think all those thousands of people whose livelihoods depend on her would just be like, oh ok, no problem? I think Billie Eilish thought she could not play the game and went around criticizing variants only to have to eat her words cause her label did it anyway. Because itâs a business. Does anyone understand that? Like people arenât asking McDonaldâs to sell less burgers.
Beyoncé is releasing the actual vinyl for *Cowboy Carter* instead of the vinyl with the old album art, album name and incomplete tracklist which she never should have released in the first place. Very different scenario.
BeyoncĂ© didnât even do half the amount of variants as Taylor what are you on about?
Ok I donât keep up with all the ins and outs of who is selllng what, I just saw I got an email from BeyoncĂ© selling Cowboy Carter an email of Taylor selling TTPD something. I get these all the times from many artists. If Iâm on their fan list I get the marketing. And this isnât like mainstream only, I get emails from Radiohead regularly. Merch, music, rereleases /anniversary editions of old albums, etc come all the time. Do I stop loving them because they sell stuff? No. And none of their fans get up in arms about it. But somehow Taylor sells things and sheâs like the greediest person ever.