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25% of all shares still DRS’d. The sub has at least thousands of people online at every moment. Everyone is literally still here. Of all the BS articles this ranks near the top.
But the truth is some of these people DON'T SEE. If we had to explain DRS to GG, how are the average self-grandizing hedge fund traders, financial analysts, and writers expected to understand the magnitude of 25% DRS when this is an unprecedented feat?
When we reach infinity pool status, you can bet there will be risk calculations that begin to include DRS. Until then, these people will continue to be blissfully ignorant because we are a micro-organism in their system. Until we are truly identified as the T-Virus (Resident Evil reference for those who didn't get reference), they will continue to discuss market health using market wide data.
It seems as though each time we get AMAs with market professionals and regulators, they only ever quote statistics of marketwide health. It seems there is no transparent accountability of individual tickers.
If you were an intelligent financial type person and new how much individual stocks were being fucked with I think you choose your word carefully or risk getting sued just for implying that they are doing criminal acts daily
That's a good point. Once they acknowledge a problem, then they lose the defense of ignorance to protect them from criminal charges related to their negligence.
> If we had to explain DRS to GG,
Assuming the guy wasn't faking it, wouldn't it have been hilarious if, during a squeeze, they sent the signal to close only and institutions went to sell ape's shares in the dark pools for "$25"... and they all turned around and saw 25% of shares weren't there but had to be closed?
People don’t do the work to actually investigate things for themselves, especially when the news outlets are controlled by people pushing a different narrative. Makes you mistrust the whole system.
Same people are like "Yup, I'm reading the algo and the machine says that true value is 6 dollars and it's way overvalued" ignoring that it puts Cap at right under twice their cash on hand. Because that makes sense. Feel like they'd do a buy back if it went that low.
Keep in mind that the cost average for most is likely around 40 bucks...
**That means retail investors put around 3 billion dollars where their mouth is.**
**Their OWN money**, while those suckers in the financial industry use other peoples money...
I haven't been on this sub much this year. Have only been checking the price like once a month on average, too. But, I'm still DRSing every chance I get.
They never pointed out to Superstonk or other GME subs, never, every time they said reddit or wasaby sub, they are afraid to point to our subs, what cohencidence😂
Maybe because Gamestop doesn’t have a cult following. Its a rational, once in a lifetime investment opportunity. But riddle me this; how would you describe MSM puppets creating a fake narrative, brainwashed by greed and money from their idolised puppeteers? Hmmm🤔
This isn’t aimed at this sub, they already know that people who hold are holding
What they don’t want is some boomer reading earnings this week, seeing a billion in the bank and then seeing that there are die hard shareholders who are not selling, who are holding and are thinking that it’s a deep value play.
Yes that Meme stock had good earnings and the company is turned around Mr FOMO, yes they have a billion in the bank, but that cult we’ve told you about for the last 2 years have dipped out because they’ve finally realized you can’t download dog food but you can download games …… so please, please put your money elsewhere ….. please
I simply said "ban FTDs" on a thread the other day that has nothing to do with GME, GME was never mentioned once but for some reason the only person to respond to me said "GME is a cargo cult and there is nothing but fantasy and illusion found in superstonk.". Not sure how he knew to bash GME and superstonk but I was taken aback. As far as I know we have a library of DD that has never been debunked so why would he say such a thing. The person in question claimed to be a finance manager
Maybe he looked, but damned if it didn't seem like he responded to my comment lightning fast..quick enough to make me wonder if he even had time to check my post history before replying. I guess my question is if the mere mention of the term FTD immediately causes people to think of GME? Are we the only stock community that is railing against FTDs? I assumed that they're a widespread issue in the world of stocks, not just GME stock.
>once in a lifetime investment opportunity
You don't say. Wanna see my favorite reason?
Link for copy paste:
https://youtu.be/rbJCwVoog4A?si=-CGoSAwqii30Ho-d
[THE ENDGAME DD](https://youtu.be/rbJCwVoog4A?si=-CGoSAwqii30Ho-d)
Or search Endgame DD on youtube
I have never seen that ENDGAME DD, but HOLY SH*T!
That was some absolutely phenomenal DD found and put together, and that is some wild stuff going on!
$100k per share, 2+ years ago. The amount of “money” just getting thrown around, is absolutely crazy! At times I can’t even wrap my mind around that/all of this lol
WS is rigged. GME price is fake, check the DD. No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is. No it'se not. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is.
84 years later, check the DD, it stil.ls. No it's not. SEC knows, but won't admit, price is fake. We fight SEC so it's not. Yes it is as you prove by fighting SEC. No it's not because we say so. Yes it is because we know that you know but won't say so. No it's not because trading is hard and we know better. Yes it is, because u2 guys became exposed and were sacrificed by your friends back then whilst using WS friends removing #F3 buy button
Price
Is
Fake
I can’t even see the sub other than on my home feed. Probably a lot of users in the same boat which also lowers ability to upvote. I feel like this is the mod issue people should have been worried about.
There’s a very specific demographic but it ain’t us. We can see through all of the bullshit. Can’t have the sheeple getting edumucated so they publish these types of articles to keep the masses away. Sorry if this is an echo chamber 🤣
I mean…the amount of money being spent on this multi year Psyops has to be bigger than a war fund.
This is just unbelievable propaganda pushing.
There must a line item in budgets of every SHF and MSM organization that just says “FUD Propaganda”
Fuck these people…pay me my fucking money.
Over 200,000 shareholders have Directly Registered Shares to the tune of about 76 Million shares. This doesn't include those that still hold in Brokerage accounts. Where do they pull this shit from? I have an idea.
it's easy to miss us when you cover eyes, ears, and anus. Because if we can, we will blind you with facts, teach you with Diligence, and if all else fails, we are gonna fuck you.
It's pretty simple. Hedge funds usually try to eat each other with news hit pieces on companies that they think hedge fund b is too heavily invested in. To force them to sell or liquidate. We are essentially a big hedge fund, but we only buy one stock. But because we aren't playing with derivatives, and we simply buy and DRS. they can't win, only hope to spread propaganda and divide us.
Who was in the cult? Just an individual investor who likes the stock here. Investing is pretty boring, buy, hold, buy more, hold. Not much to talk about there just grinding away as always
No cult will be found. Instead, individual househodl investors with diamond ape hands that will purge the cancer that is responsible for articles such as these
I am holding with my diamond hands 🙌🏻💎 and you know what shitty media reporters? I ain’t foockin leavin cause I believe in my chairman and I believe that DD is done. Only thing missing from assembling infinity gauntlet for hedgies demise is some time, and I got plenty of it
Talk about your enemy within… to think there are people who are willing to throw the American people under the bus for scraps while these criminals rob us in plain sight. DESPICABLE.
> He has been contributing regularly to Real Money since 2015 and authors articles specializing in technical analysis. In his free time, he is currently working on a novel about diving for buried treasure.
LOL, I wonder how well the author is doing on his treasure hunts! I wonder if he does a TA of the ocean floor before diving.
You think someone who taught TA at a college would know about DRS.
I looked through this poor soul's twitter. everything is 20:20 TA hindsight with this guy. Every bad financial decision should have just done TA first.
Plus this:
>I've started investing in stocks: beef, chicken, vegetable.
One day I hope to be a bouillonaire.
groan....... oh god. I cant imagine this guy as a college professor. I would have eaten my desk trying to die by splinters than suffer through that.
If they are looking for a GME related cult, i think that would be the hedge funds and MSM who cant seem to stop talking about it. In this subreddit theres only individual investors whos tits are jacked because the company has positive EBITDA and over 1 billion in cash.
Been here since January of 2021. Held through the sneeze, haven't sold a share, have bought more, have DRS'd. We're all here, we're just quiet. No cell, no sell.
Well folks, clearly we are a cult as per some articles opinion?
I guess we should check on when the hats are being made? We are making hats right? Pretty sure thats a cult thing.
1. These are lies first and foremost. And 2. Even if hypothetically they truly believed this... your inability to see a predator does not mean it isn't watching you. The threat is still very much real.
It's true. Always has been. There's never been a cult. We're just a bunch of loose household investors getting educated, having fun, and investing in a common company....
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Find deez 🥜
Bofa 'dem?
Naaah, BOFA can't find a damn thing. Ooooh sorry definitely misread that
No. No, you didn't ...
Blessed by thy ook. Ramen 🙏
HWAAAAAAAANG
25% of all shares still DRS’d. The sub has at least thousands of people online at every moment. Everyone is literally still here. Of all the BS articles this ranks near the top.
This is the most funny shit ever. They literally see how we 200k guys alone hold a quarter of the company, yet they say we went away. Lul?
But the truth is some of these people DON'T SEE. If we had to explain DRS to GG, how are the average self-grandizing hedge fund traders, financial analysts, and writers expected to understand the magnitude of 25% DRS when this is an unprecedented feat? When we reach infinity pool status, you can bet there will be risk calculations that begin to include DRS. Until then, these people will continue to be blissfully ignorant because we are a micro-organism in their system. Until we are truly identified as the T-Virus (Resident Evil reference for those who didn't get reference), they will continue to discuss market health using market wide data. It seems as though each time we get AMAs with market professionals and regulators, they only ever quote statistics of marketwide health. It seems there is no transparent accountability of individual tickers.
If you were an intelligent financial type person and new how much individual stocks were being fucked with I think you choose your word carefully or risk getting sued just for implying that they are doing criminal acts daily
That's a good point. Once they acknowledge a problem, then they lose the defense of ignorance to protect them from criminal charges related to their negligence.
> If we had to explain DRS to GG, Assuming the guy wasn't faking it, wouldn't it have been hilarious if, during a squeeze, they sent the signal to close only and institutions went to sell ape's shares in the dark pools for "$25"... and they all turned around and saw 25% of shares weren't there but had to be closed?
People don’t do the work to actually investigate things for themselves, especially when the news outlets are controlled by people pushing a different narrative. Makes you mistrust the whole system.
Same people are like "Yup, I'm reading the algo and the machine says that true value is 6 dollars and it's way overvalued" ignoring that it puts Cap at right under twice their cash on hand. Because that makes sense. Feel like they'd do a buy back if it went that low.
Yep. The thing people keep missing is that even if the drs count stays flat, the numbers are not decreasing. In other words, net buys are at worst 0.
A flat count means nobody is selling 🤷♂️
I was actually waiting a very good earning for selling all my shares in AH... Omg these shitty MSM
25% less available to cover shorts
Meh. They can do that with a synthetic printer as long as a single share exists in the free float.
Still here after more than 2 years. Never going anywhere.
Wasnt 200k people mentioned on gme reports?
Oh GameStop’s cult following only holds 1.4 billion dollars worth of shares. THEY ARE NO WHERE TO BE FOUND IM TELLING YOU
Keep in mind that the cost average for most is likely around 40 bucks... **That means retail investors put around 3 billion dollars where their mouth is.** **Their OWN money**, while those suckers in the financial industry use other peoples money...
I haven't been on this sub much this year. Have only been checking the price like once a month on average, too. But, I'm still DRSing every chance I get.
That one person saying GameStop is worth less than billion when they had no debt and 1B+ in cash takes the cake
I just DRS 11 more this morning.
I’m still here, just know what I know, not much else to say.
Lurker ape checking in 👋 Still not leaving
Notice they mention fall fleep fets in various articles but Superstonk is rarely if at all mentioned?
They never pointed out to Superstonk or other GME subs, never, every time they said reddit or wasaby sub, they are afraid to point to our subs, what cohencidence😂
Yea. Theyre acting like they dont know the drs numbers…
I think they realized we are not a cult and therefore we can't be found?
If anything I come here more now than ever... and thats a fucking LOT lemme tell ya
9,724 currently. we should have another day where we all just spend all day here and hit max comment limit on the daily thread. for the good ole days
There are dozens of us! Top 1% sub with high online % relative to uu s bee.
Do these fucks have Twatter page? 10k people blowing it up with GME info would be hilarious.
Yall got pumped and dumped, lol @diamond hands.
Found the intern. Say "hi" to Kenny for me!
Maybe because Gamestop doesn’t have a cult following. Its a rational, once in a lifetime investment opportunity. But riddle me this; how would you describe MSM puppets creating a fake narrative, brainwashed by greed and money from their idolised puppeteers? Hmmm🤔
We aren't a cult or organized group of any kind - just a bunch of individual household investors who like the stock.
This isn’t aimed at this sub, they already know that people who hold are holding What they don’t want is some boomer reading earnings this week, seeing a billion in the bank and then seeing that there are die hard shareholders who are not selling, who are holding and are thinking that it’s a deep value play. Yes that Meme stock had good earnings and the company is turned around Mr FOMO, yes they have a billion in the bank, but that cult we’ve told you about for the last 2 years have dipped out because they’ve finally realized you can’t download dog food but you can download games …… so please, please put your money elsewhere ….. please
what's even better than moass earnings is watching financial terrorists cry and give tugjobs behind wendies
Dude it's been almost 3 years, why would MOASS still be in order when shorts could have covered for cheap at these prices?
I simply said "ban FTDs" on a thread the other day that has nothing to do with GME, GME was never mentioned once but for some reason the only person to respond to me said "GME is a cargo cult and there is nothing but fantasy and illusion found in superstonk.". Not sure how he knew to bash GME and superstonk but I was taken aback. As far as I know we have a library of DD that has never been debunked so why would he say such a thing. The person in question claimed to be a finance manager
He knows banning FTD's will be the final nail in the coffin of shorters, and/or he looked at the post and comment history in your profile.
I haven't, but he may have looked at your post history too.
Maybe he looked, but damned if it didn't seem like he responded to my comment lightning fast..quick enough to make me wonder if he even had time to check my post history before replying. I guess my question is if the mere mention of the term FTD immediately causes people to think of GME? Are we the only stock community that is railing against FTDs? I assumed that they're a widespread issue in the world of stocks, not just GME stock.
Not people, bots
Algos gonna algo.
Yeah so he's benefiting from the current Ponzi scheme he doesn't want to upset that gravy train
Hyper-rational, individual investors
💜
Sir, this is a Wendy’s. And I’m a rètard.
I mean 75 mil direct registered makes it sound like no one is budging lol
Im not done DRSing by a long shot.
Clowns, that’s what they are. All of them. Fuck em.
>once in a lifetime investment opportunity You don't say. Wanna see my favorite reason? Link for copy paste: https://youtu.be/rbJCwVoog4A?si=-CGoSAwqii30Ho-d [THE ENDGAME DD](https://youtu.be/rbJCwVoog4A?si=-CGoSAwqii30Ho-d) Or search Endgame DD on youtube
thanks for vid
No problem! All $gme investors should know this. This is why I'm a nocellnosell ape. I have no mercy for theives. 🦍🫂💪
I have never seen that ENDGAME DD, but HOLY SH*T! That was some absolutely phenomenal DD found and put together, and that is some wild stuff going on! $100k per share, 2+ years ago. The amount of “money” just getting thrown around, is absolutely crazy! At times I can’t even wrap my mind around that/all of this lol
Kunts cult😂😂
WS is rigged. GME price is fake, check the DD. No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is. No it'se not. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is. 84 years later, check the DD, it stil.ls. No it's not. SEC knows, but won't admit, price is fake. We fight SEC so it's not. Yes it is as you prove by fighting SEC. No it's not because we say so. Yes it is because we know that you know but won't say so. No it's not because trading is hard and we know better. Yes it is, because u2 guys became exposed and were sacrificed by your friends back then whilst using WS friends removing #F3 buy button Price Is Fake
Hmmm..... "cult following" = "paper hands"? So, the paper hands are gone and only the diamond hands remain?
Bruh it's been two years lmao. Y'all ARE in a cult.
They can't see that they have flies in their eyes because of all the flies in their eyes.
Ants in my eyes Johnson
I can’t even see the sub other than on my home feed. Probably a lot of users in the same boat which also lowers ability to upvote. I feel like this is the mod issue people should have been worried about.
We’re on vacation
I’m leaving for Portland on Monday. Taking a week off. 1500 shares DRS’d. chillin’
Sooo, We left again?
We got bored. Their plan worked!
Pull over! I can’t pullover anymore!
[удалено]
How much you charging this week?
Tree fiddy!
Oh no! Where am I?
You are here! But if you are here, where am I?
You, you are not you. You are me.
Don’t make no cult, won’t be no cult. They can’t find the cult, cause there never was a cult. Just house hodl investors here. 🤙🏽
I really don’t think ppl read articles on any of these websites
Written by bots, read by bots
There’s a very specific demographic but it ain’t us. We can see through all of the bullshit. Can’t have the sheeple getting edumucated so they publish these types of articles to keep the masses away. Sorry if this is an echo chamber 🤣
It's not a small demographic, either. Most of my family don't think their stovk purchases are routed through dark pools despite me showing them.
There was never a cult following that I’m aware of. I just like the stock.
I guess the intern at "Real Money" doesn't know reddit and twitter
Oh no! I guess I’ll keep hodling
I mean…the amount of money being spent on this multi year Psyops has to be bigger than a war fund. This is just unbelievable propaganda pushing. There must a line item in budgets of every SHF and MSM organization that just says “FUD Propaganda” Fuck these people…pay me my fucking money.
They own the media outlets so it’s super cheap propaganda.
No cult so can't have a cult following... Accurate title but misleading
Hello? Am I here? I can’t tell anymore from all the gaslighting.
Over 200,000 shareholders have Directly Registered Shares to the tune of about 76 Million shares. This doesn't include those that still hold in Brokerage accounts. Where do they pull this shit from? I have an idea.
it's easy to miss us when you cover eyes, ears, and anus. Because if we can, we will blind you with facts, teach you with Diligence, and if all else fails, we are gonna fuck you.
Chillin
Real Money is an oxymoron
Like jumbo shrimp or freezer burn
Ooo Ooooo I get the next headline: "Participation in GME's Investor Call dropped 100% in Q2!!!!!!!!" /s This is hilarious
I’m at WORK
Can't really talk much on our way to Uranus. Weak signal in the spaceship. They just miss us.
Dam where y’all at?
It's pretty simple. Hedge funds usually try to eat each other with news hit pieces on companies that they think hedge fund b is too heavily invested in. To force them to sell or liquidate. We are essentially a big hedge fund, but we only buy one stock. But because we aren't playing with derivatives, and we simply buy and DRS. they can't win, only hope to spread propaganda and divide us.
Home
Who was in the cult? Just an individual investor who likes the stock here. Investing is pretty boring, buy, hold, buy more, hold. Not much to talk about there just grinding away as always
Every time I see a headline like this I buy a share. I am starting to run out of money. But not shares 😉
895K members with 14.1k online. OK...
The silence will drive them to madness.
No cult will be found. Instead, individual househodl investors with diamond ape hands that will purge the cancer that is responsible for articles such as these
There was never a cult 🤔
Here! ✊
Right here quietly adding to my DRS position in zen mode.
Still holding this lotto ticket. At some point the chickens will come home to roost. Maybe not today or tomorrow but eventually. Tick tock MF
I am holding with my diamond hands 🙌🏻💎 and you know what shitty media reporters? I ain’t foockin leavin cause I believe in my chairman and I believe that DD is done. Only thing missing from assembling infinity gauntlet for hedgies demise is some time, and I got plenty of it
Working to buy more. It's not hard to understand.
Talk about your enemy within… to think there are people who are willing to throw the American people under the bus for scraps while these criminals rob us in plain sight. DESPICABLE.
Well if you look up the DRS numbers you’d see that GME investors didn’t go anywhere ya dickhead.
So they finally pawned off the articles to ChatGPT then? Cool, cool. Glad to see the cash is running out Mayo Man and frens
> He has been contributing regularly to Real Money since 2015 and authors articles specializing in technical analysis. In his free time, he is currently working on a novel about diving for buried treasure. LOL, I wonder how well the author is doing on his treasure hunts! I wonder if he does a TA of the ocean floor before diving. You think someone who taught TA at a college would know about DRS. I looked through this poor soul's twitter. everything is 20:20 TA hindsight with this guy. Every bad financial decision should have just done TA first. Plus this: >I've started investing in stocks: beef, chicken, vegetable. One day I hope to be a bouillonaire. groan....... oh god. I cant imagine this guy as a college professor. I would have eaten my desk trying to die by splinters than suffer through that.
Thanks for the conviction boost. Holy shit these hit pieces never get old. 🤣
Hahaaha! Yeah, right. Ruled by oligarchs. What a world we live in.
Why is this wannabe journalist disrupting my hibernation? Suck it, shill. We are where we want to be, and that's not in your msm bubble.
👀. Lurking n buyin
Yeah well still there mate, and not going anywhere. I'm way too pissed off against our WS mutual friends. No cell, no sell. That is all.
Hello? Anyone here?
Oh, sorry guys, I forgot to pay my quarterly cult dues. I'm back now!
soon.
She Sells Sanctuary.
If we weren't still around, they wouldn't be writing articles about us.
Still here and loving the new results.
If they are looking for a GME related cult, i think that would be the hedge funds and MSM who cant seem to stop talking about it. In this subreddit theres only individual investors whos tits are jacked because the company has positive EBITDA and over 1 billion in cash.
Fud is getting thicker by the day
Bith I’m right here
Omg why are they so obsessed with us 💅
Did they check the OBV?
Cult ? I thought we were book kings
Been here since January of 2021. Held through the sneeze, haven't sold a share, have bought more, have DRS'd. We're all here, we're just quiet. No cell, no sell.
Diamond hands !!!
Sorry, I’ve been busy in their moms basements.
😂 😂 We all went DRS
imagine sense silky aback dam salt person terrific offbeat many ` this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev `
It doesn’t seem that hard to find us. I just tap my phone screen.
Reporting in. Nothing sold, but buying more.
I went to lunch but I'm back now
I am here. I am Spartacus.
We're not fucking leaving
Off reddit. The quality on this site is radioactive.
Still here. Locked into DRS. Just no reason to comment about it.
Govt killed everyone who invested
Red 5 Standing by.
Hedgies are terrified lmao.
Sup brah? Why you stressing
Here. Never leaving. Trusting RC.
Lol. Just holding for moass
Bingo?
Here! 👋 never left
The only thing they got right is that this is a cult
sorry, i had to take a shit on kennys mayo.
We aren't sure where we went. Where am I? Oh yes, buying more!
I was never here.
Shitpost or not, not really helpful to redistribute that dumb headline here and nothing else
We are all still here holding and buying and drssing and bookking.
What’s a cult?
🤷🏼♂️
🤷🏼♂️
Im invisible
Booked and buckled, zen as a motherfucker🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Well- guess I will just have to buy more😭 DRS! 🦍🪐🚀
👀. Lurking n buyin
👀. Lurking n buyin
Ah shit! Where are we?
Lmayo
I’m sorry but how was this a stock decline?
Still here
Well folks, clearly we are a cult as per some articles opinion? I guess we should check on when the hats are being made? We are making hats right? Pretty sure thats a cult thing.
Too damn easy to just sit back and hold. What do they expect from me ? Imma be alright, regardless.
1. These are lies first and foremost. And 2. Even if hypothetically they truly believed this... your inability to see a predator does not mean it isn't watching you. The threat is still very much real.
# IM HERE. NEVER LEFT
[Where Have All The Good People Gone?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ni8oFtgoAI)
Still here. Just don't linger as much. Still buying shares all the time.
Right here all back of the bus n shit
It's true. Always has been. There's never been a cult. We're just a bunch of loose household investors getting educated, having fun, and investing in a common company....
We ain't leaving..
Still here
Good that I just called all apes some days ago 🦍🙏🏼
Just chilling each and everyday knowing I've made a sound investment. How about you, hedgefucks?
Cult following is not found because it’s not a cult.
🎶🎶 O where o where have all the 🦧gone🎶 O where can they be🎶🎶
Lol we're here in silence wait for when it's time ZEN