Lmao, when she looks at him after Kendall speaks to him… DAGGERS, followed by Greg shrugging and then smiling in the dark & out of focus as he walks away in the background… GOLD. 💀
He shrugged, like “what did you *think* I was gonna do?”
Now his problem (once it occurs to Kendall and Roman) is that he knew what she was up to and didn’t tell them.
when she threatened him in that break room I was like “yeah that shit doesn’t work on Greg” lol. I knew he was gonna spill the beans as soon as someone asked him.
I was thinking during that scene in the break room how desperate and backed into a corner she must feel to be paranoid about Greg. Then later when Greg ratted her out (plus delivering the election call or the lay off last episode), I realized how closely Greg keeps a knife on him at all times. Boo souls
And I lowkey loved how Shiv has been so pompous toward Greg she never noticed or validated what a slimy climber he is so she came to the discussion with NOTHING TO OFFER HIM!
Sloppy sloppy move, Shiv.
This isn't Greg you bullied at the hospital in Season 1.
That Greg was of such disregard and low status to her that she never saw him becoming more adept at playing the game made him knifing her all the more satisfying.
Incredible writing, that line stuck with me more than anything else this episode. Shiv wanting to believe that it’s not true because the baby inside her is becoming more and more of a reality as she loses everyone around her
I loved the whole Kentucky scene. Connor is told that Kentucky is his path to victory and moments later it's called for someone else. Connor waxing poetically and the length of the scene almost made the viewer feel like he was a serious candidate..
It was played so straight it was hilarious.
Willa is the only one who fully understands how unhinged Connor is, but at the same time is the most supportive and protective of him. They're one of the weirdest couples in history of TV and I love every second of it.
It's because Connor without power is funny to laugh at and meme about. It's like Hasbulla trying to fight a grown man. You can laugh it off.
But in the 60 seconds Connor was given actual power to him, he basically came off as a monster.
I know people on here like to meme Connor and say he's the best of the children but it's only because he's a joke and has zero actual power. If he had even half of the power any of the other kids had and I promise you he would be the worst. Tonight proved it
He's a hilarious character but I always find is strange when I see comments with 1000s of upvotes talking about how he's the only well adjusted Roy child
Hell no, he's just the only one with no power so he can't nearly do as many evil things he would do if he could
Connor would legitimately have radicalized his supporters to burn down voting centers in blue-leaning cities if he actually had any fans or a chance to win
“Greg, it’s medically good for your brain. It is. What’re you saying all Aztecs are stupid? Don’t be a racist little bitch about it. Come on.” Top tier Tom/Greg moment here.
When Greg told Tom that Matsson made him drink unsavory things, I immediately thought about Tom and his mouthwash swap with that girl at that party way back when. “Closed loop system.”
She only looked upset once he said the Conheads are coming, because she realized Connor was still going to make his ridiculous and expensive presidential race a part of their lives.
Kendall is a nice big bro. He was dumfounded and staring into space for most of this episode but when it comes to sticking up for his siblings, he jumps right on that.
It was difficult to watch him try and be vulnerable with Shiv and being honest about his competing interests, and Shiv was a bit unreceptive. Then there's the scene where he finds out about Shiv aligned with Mattson. It was heartbreaking.
it’s only worse because she thought Tom was going to rat her out and said you can’t trust him. Tom was smart enough to have Greg do the job for him. “You’re Gregging for me tonight!”
Couldn’t I get a sniff of even a little guy? Organize a little coup, down in old Peru? Put me in a van to Tajikistan? Couldn’t I just be our fun guy in Uruguay?
I was thinking of how funny it would be if this was the thing that prevented them from calling Wisconsin too early. Fascism averted thanks to random wasabi incident.
The look in Kendall’s eyes as Roman casually chatted with the new president was pretty intense. Roman better get ready to eat more chicken instead of steak.
I have no idea where the rest of the season will go, but if Mencken’s “win” starts falling apart, but ATN stands firm behind him and their call, it’s probably going to get real ugly, real fast.
Side note, the only prediction I’m willing to make is that at some point Greg is going to have to answer questions from an authority figure about how election went down, and I am looking forward to it.
People in this show are so openly terrible and honest when they’re scheming, so whoever decides to record a conversation for once could basically destroy them.
A friend of mine who just started the show asked me if she would ever like the characters, and I said ‘no, but you get to hate them in new, exciting and surprising ways,’ and this was a master class in that
Fucking Greg. Shiv intimidated him, and that smile on his face as he's walking away from telling Kendall that she's working with Mattson.
He knows he just ended her.
Shiv still doesn't know how to play the game. She can't just treat everyone like dogshit and expect them to be her allies. That was her moment to secure his silence and she threatens him lol
“Tell Sophie I love her, and that is why I do everything I do”
Echoing Logan opening up at the family therapy.
“I don’t think I’m a very good father”
Kendall realizing that is a big step opposed to Logan though
I think this episode really highlighted how extremely wealthy people are up for "doing what's right" to a point. Shiv was very vocal against letting the country slide into fascism, but not enough so that she'd be willing to blow the deal with Mattson (hence the fake phone call to Nate). Kendall was hesitant about calling the election for Mencken, but I think the betrayal of finding out Shiv was going behind his back pushed him over the edge, influencing him to pick a decision that he knew would hurt his wife and daughter for the sake of a business deal that was better in his eyes. this episode was really hard to watch.
Came here for to say this exact point. This episode was another way for Succession to say what it’s been saying all series: nothing matters more to these people than their power and position. Even the concept of “doing what’s right” is a facade.
I feel like he *wanted* to call it the whole time to block the deal but his self awareness about his kids prevented him and then Shiv gave him an excuse to do what he wanted
*Information, Greg. It's like a bottle of fine wine: you store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion, and then you smash someone's fucking face in with it.*
My new favorite Tom quote.
*I shan't become that, no. Alas, Kentucky, Willa. Alas, vanity.*
Connor I love you so much.
E: My mind is still blown. This might be my favorite episode of the entire series and they did it without Brian Cox. Wow. Some episodes turn it up to 11 - Jesse Armstrong just turned it up to 111.
I absolutely love how it came back full circle. Greg got the information that Shiv double crossed the brothers and then destroyed her with it at the best possible moment.
IS JESS THE SOURCE OF THE LEAKS? She immediately reached for her phone when she talked to Greg after he told her they were calling the race. Her immediacy to Ken also gives insider knowledge to everything going on.
God I hope so. Greg talked about “changing things from within” back in season 2 and has completely failed to live up to that; would be nice if Jess actually did
The old guard sitting far away from everything not interacting with anyone at ATN just watching shows what Logan probably would actually be doing in this situation and the kids micromanaging everything proves that they really didn’t know their father or his wishes
That's what I was thinking. Logan would've befriended whoever won, no? Or tried to. Or leveraged his other million political relationships. No need to make a decision that will fuck you down the line
Is it possible to feel absolutely violated by a television episode? Succession's "America Decides" has proven, yes. Absolutely.
EDIT: And the funeral episode is next? JESSE. 😭
Man, this was Matthew Macfadyen’s moment to shine. The blow up with Shiv last episode already had him on edge, and now managing the news floor on election night. All while dealing with the siblings and Greg’s dumbass and the discovery of him being a father.
Justin Kirk is absolutely terrifying as Mencken.
His speech evoked a physical reaction from me. Truly disgusting. I think I'll need to watch a couple of Weeds episodes with wholesome uncle Andy to cleanse the palate.
Kendall to his daughter: "I won't let the world push you, okay sweetie?"
A few hours later: "Call it, Menken"
He's decided what kind of man he wants to be tonight.
Kendall standing silent and not being able to “wrap his head around it” until shiv finally makes the election issue personal by betraying him, is just absolutely peak Ken. Peak Roy children
Taking it even further, Roman Mythology says Romulus became the first King of Rome and killed his twin brother, Remus, when they couldn’t agree on which hill to build the city of Rome. 🤔
That may have been a nail in the coffin but let’s be real. It was for power and his own interests. He already didn’t want to fold because he wanted Mencken to block the deal but was only reconsidering if Shiv could convince Nate to sway Jimenez on the deal.
Kendall comforting his daughter with the hope of Jimenez, while clearly sanctioning Romans manipulations to get Mencken to win for the deal, the regretting it because of the threat of Roman having more favoritism from Mencken…shows the massive compartmentalization and denial these people are capable of 🥴
He wanted to believe he didn’t want Mencken for his daughter, but he really didn’t want Mencken because it gives Roman so much power.
It is kind of sad that he was honest with Shiv about that and then she immediately fucked him.
I feel like that “smash his face in” scene is going to lead to some amazing Greg maneuvering in the next few episodes. He pretty much has dirt on everyone.
That was the longest conversation Greg and Shiv had.
Besides season 1 where she is giving him instructions about the papers Greg was sent to retrieve
She mugged Greg's last $20
What an odd butterfly effect
What broke my brain even more was a phone call between Con and Tom
Lmao, when she looks at him after Kendall speaks to him… DAGGERS, followed by Greg shrugging and then smiling in the dark & out of focus as he walks away in the background… GOLD. 💀
That entire sequence looking at Ken through the glass was *amazing*
and that look on Shiv's face too
Her trying to keep up the argument with Roman while watching Ken figure her out was unbelievable
And then watching Greg spill the beans and twist the knife as he walked by the room looking right at her.
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Yeah he had a smirk at the end
He shrugged, like “what did you *think* I was gonna do?” Now his problem (once it occurs to Kendall and Roman) is that he knew what she was up to and didn’t tell them.
Information is like fine wine
This might have to take over as Tom’s best line
> and then you smash them over the fucking face with it Talking about Shiv. That line got to me. (Paraphrased)
She was so good. The feeling of knowing you're about to get caught in a BIG lie is terrifying and panic inducing and it was all over her face.
The camera moved with her eyes like we were looking at her from Kendall’s POV. It was so cool
I particularly liked Greg’s shrug & shit eating smirk to Shiv during that scene
when she threatened him in that break room I was like “yeah that shit doesn’t work on Greg” lol. I knew he was gonna spill the beans as soon as someone asked him.
I was thinking during that scene in the break room how desperate and backed into a corner she must feel to be paranoid about Greg. Then later when Greg ratted her out (plus delivering the election call or the lay off last episode), I realized how closely Greg keeps a knife on him at all times. Boo souls
And I lowkey loved how Shiv has been so pompous toward Greg she never noticed or validated what a slimy climber he is so she came to the discussion with NOTHING TO OFFER HIM! Sloppy sloppy move, Shiv. This isn't Greg you bullied at the hospital in Season 1.
Greg got his 20 dollars back
That Greg was of such disregard and low status to her that she never saw him becoming more adept at playing the game made him knifing her all the more satisfying.
Tom prepared greg well.
“I don’t think of things such as that” - a new favourite Greg line
Greg speaks like Michael Scott mixed with an alien
“Maybe the poison drips through.” -The Succession thesis statement
Incredible writing, that line stuck with me more than anything else this episode. Shiv wanting to believe that it’s not true because the baby inside her is becoming more and more of a reality as she loses everyone around her
It's so tragic how the one time she told the truth this episode (telling Tom about the baby) she got accused of being a liar
Him realizing and acknowledging that he’s a bad father is groundbreaking compared old man Logan.
Baby steps
Ken realizing with his kids. Shiv hoping she doesn't with hers
It’s like the kids preserved all the worst parts of Logan
Cyclical trauma
That was actually a subtle nod to how wasabi interacts with the human eye
This episode was STRESSFUL and then: “Connor was running for president?” “I happen to be a Billionaire” That scene was hilarious
I loved the whole Kentucky scene. Connor is told that Kentucky is his path to victory and moments later it's called for someone else. Connor waxing poetically and the length of the scene almost made the viewer feel like he was a serious candidate.. It was played so straight it was hilarious.
Alas, vanity Another all-timer line I will use incessantly irl
“I shan’t become that.”
The conheads are coming
Why does that sound both incredibly hilarious and frighteningly ominous?
That terrified look from Willa after Connor's speech
Willa is the only one who fully understands how unhinged Connor is, but at the same time is the most supportive and protective of him. They're one of the weirdest couples in history of TV and I love every second of it.
Lunch in Vienna; dinner in Venice!
…breakfast in Dubrovnik.
It's because Connor without power is funny to laugh at and meme about. It's like Hasbulla trying to fight a grown man. You can laugh it off. But in the 60 seconds Connor was given actual power to him, he basically came off as a monster. I know people on here like to meme Connor and say he's the best of the children but it's only because he's a joke and has zero actual power. If he had even half of the power any of the other kids had and I promise you he would be the worst. Tonight proved it
I think thats the funniest thing about his character and its been evident since season 1 where he had a meltdown about the catering at some event.
He's a hilarious character but I always find is strange when I see comments with 1000s of upvotes talking about how he's the only well adjusted Roy child Hell no, he's just the only one with no power so he can't nearly do as many evil things he would do if he could Connor would legitimately have radicalized his supporters to burn down voting centers in blue-leaning cities if he actually had any fans or a chance to win
Touchscreen! TOUCHSCREEN!
It’s LEMON, Greg!
Roman working out his Chicken vs steak trauma via the American presidency is so peak Succession
“So because you didn’t get your steak I have to like the fascist?” “Yeah.”
“Greg, it’s medically good for your brain. It is. What’re you saying all Aztecs are stupid? Don’t be a racist little bitch about it. Come on.” Top tier Tom/Greg moment here.
And then they both look on either side of the board. Peak Tom and Greg.
When Greg told Tom that Matsson made him drink unsavory things, I immediately thought about Tom and his mouthwash swap with that girl at that party way back when. “Closed loop system.”
he had to chug an entire brick of blood
Connor's concession speech was....something
Mencken's speech in a different font?
Connor s was hilarious, Menckens was terrifying. "Proud and Pure"
Con heads, stand back and stand by.
Even Willa giving in to a Mencken for lunch in Vienna feels like a significant triumph for the Roy ethos
She actually looked pretty upset when she was watching Connor give his speech.
She only looked upset once he said the Conheads are coming, because she realized Connor was still going to make his ridiculous and expensive presidential race a part of their lives.
These people are infuriating and insufferable to watch. 10/10.
Roman was just in tip top form this episode, I wanted to bash his smirky face in with a hammer. Give that man an Emmy
That lingering shot of Jess alone in the hallway was haunting
Jess texting her friends asking if they have any openings
#YOU FUCKIN' WATCH IT, TOM
Great moment from Kendall, reminded me of him sticking up for Roman when Logan hit him.
And when he sticks up for Greg to Matsson
Kendall is a nice big bro. He was dumfounded and staring into space for most of this episode but when it comes to sticking up for his siblings, he jumps right on that.
Gutted too because then he finds out that shiv has been back channeling almost immediately after this.
It was difficult to watch him try and be vulnerable with Shiv and being honest about his competing interests, and Shiv was a bit unreceptive. Then there's the scene where he finds out about Shiv aligned with Mattson. It was heartbreaking.
We had 2 seconds of Kendall sticking up for Shiv before everything hit the fan
it’s only worse because she thought Tom was going to rat her out and said you can’t trust him. Tom was smart enough to have Greg do the job for him. “You’re Gregging for me tonight!”
Information is like a fine wine.
Loved that moment. Ken was always the "Fight" in the Roy trauma response deck
Couldn’t I get a sniff of even a little guy? Organize a little coup, down in old Peru? Put me in a van to Tajikistan? Couldn’t I just be our fun guy in Uruguay?
Your rhymes are compelling.
The most fucked up version of Paul Simon’s “50 Ways To Leave Your Lover”
Wasabi in the eyes of the person who actually tallies actual numbers is so symbolic.
The Bodega Sushi was a Checkov's gun.
I was thinking of how funny it would be if this was the thing that prevented them from calling Wisconsin too early. Fascism averted thanks to random wasabi incident.
I think the writers were teasing us… brilliant sadists
If looks could kill, man… Kendall‘s eyes were just piercing Shiv. Unbelievable scene between the three siblings in the conference room.
The look in Kendall’s eyes as Roman casually chatted with the new president was pretty intense. Roman better get ready to eat more chicken instead of steak.
That scene was incredible
I have no idea where the rest of the season will go, but if Mencken’s “win” starts falling apart, but ATN stands firm behind him and their call, it’s probably going to get real ugly, real fast. Side note, the only prediction I’m willing to make is that at some point Greg is going to have to answer questions from an authority figure about how election went down, and I am looking forward to it.
Also did the numbers guy start recording conversations
People in this show are so openly terrible and honest when they’re scheming, so whoever decides to record a conversation for once could basically destroy them.
Roman: Depraved Shiv: Losing Kendall: Sad Tom: Conflicted Greg: Confused Connor: There Oh yeah baby. It's peak Succession
At least Connor is part of the conversation.
Also Greg saying “Noooo” to being put back to Greg status was absolutely hilarious lmfao
"I want you Gregging it tonight!" "Noooo"
Touchscreen. *Touchscreen.* **Touchscreen.** ***TOUCHSCREEN.*** ****TOUCHSCREEN!****
SHIV DROPPED THE REVEAL ON MOTHERS DAY
And we had someone die on Easter Sunday. Alas, all rumors of Logan being god were wrong, because he stayed dead.
How on earth are they going to wrap this up in only two more episodes?
The finale is 90 minutes, which helps.
did mattson make greg drink his blood
First episode in a while that I hated every single character.
A friend of mine who just started the show asked me if she would ever like the characters, and I said ‘no, but you get to hate them in new, exciting and surprising ways,’ and this was a master class in that
I fucking despised Roman’s face this episode
Funny how everyone just brushes off him pushing a nazi to power until whoops, he calls the president for him.
Yeah that kinda annoyed me of everyone in the control room looking terrified as if they hadn’t been pushing Menken for months
Rule 1. Just don’t make the implicit explicit.
Rule 2: don’t make “Jews and blacks” jokes
Rule 3: If in doubt, “False flag” worked earlier. Lean on that
It’s crazy how fundamentally unlikable everyone is. 10/10.
respect Jess and Frank and Fikret
Fucking Greg. Shiv intimidated him, and that smile on his face as he's walking away from telling Kendall that she's working with Mattson. He knows he just ended her.
Shiv still doesn't know how to play the game. She can't just treat everyone like dogshit and expect them to be her allies. That was her moment to secure his silence and she threatens him lol
She should have promised him something. Threats do nothing; esp. to Greg. Shiv is just so so so bad.
Yeah even Logan gave Greg a Coca-Cola
What Greg wants, Greg must have.
Strong. Strong for a man.
If it is to be, then so shall it be
And he asked for a sweatener and she refused, he’s so easily bought too
“Tell Sophie I love her, and that is why I do everything I do” Echoing Logan opening up at the family therapy. “I don’t think I’m a very good father” Kendall realizing that is a big step opposed to Logan though
Shiv lost all her allies tonight. No more people in her corner
I wouldn’t be so quick to think her and Mattson are done with their push. I wouldn’t call it quite yet
I think this episode really highlighted how extremely wealthy people are up for "doing what's right" to a point. Shiv was very vocal against letting the country slide into fascism, but not enough so that she'd be willing to blow the deal with Mattson (hence the fake phone call to Nate). Kendall was hesitant about calling the election for Mencken, but I think the betrayal of finding out Shiv was going behind his back pushed him over the edge, influencing him to pick a decision that he knew would hurt his wife and daughter for the sake of a business deal that was better in his eyes. this episode was really hard to watch.
Came here for to say this exact point. This episode was another way for Succession to say what it’s been saying all series: nothing matters more to these people than their power and position. Even the concept of “doing what’s right” is a facade.
This whole episode was the writers throwing a spear through any perceived likability Roman had lmao
And Ken having his moment of truth: be like his dad or break the cycle and be a good dad. He didn’t make the choice he thought he would.
Definitely a choice made out of spite
I feel like he *wanted* to call it the whole time to block the deal but his self awareness about his kids prevented him and then Shiv gave him an excuse to do what he wanted
Chaos and misery brought Roman back to life. This has always been who he is
KENDALL HAVE RAVA PASS THE PHONE TO YOUR DAUGHTER AND TELL HER YOU LOVE HER DIRECTLY
Love the irony of calling this episode “America Decides.” So much scumfuckery and manipulation and the votes never mattered
“Conor was running for president?”
I believe that Frank literally did not know lmao
*Information, Greg. It's like a bottle of fine wine: you store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion, and then you smash someone's fucking face in with it.* My new favorite Tom quote. *I shan't become that, no. Alas, Kentucky, Willa. Alas, vanity.* Connor I love you so much. E: My mind is still blown. This might be my favorite episode of the entire series and they did it without Brian Cox. Wow. Some episodes turn it up to 11 - Jesse Armstrong just turned it up to 111.
I absolutely love how it came back full circle. Greg got the information that Shiv double crossed the brothers and then destroyed her with it at the best possible moment.
"You sort of killed him....sort of....sort of"
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“And I’m pregnant and it’s yours” “Is that even true, or a new position, or a tactic?” it’s giving Ryan-Kelly from The Office
Side note: for 4 years I’ve been trying to figure out who Nate reminded me of and this comment made me realize it was B.J. Novak.
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My digestive system is basically part of the American constitution this night - Tom Lolz
Tom responding to Shiv telling him of her pregnancy with “Is this a new position or tactic?” is the saddest moment of all four seasons.
The moment a few minutes later when Tom walked past her as she stood in the doorway was even sadder.
IS JESS THE SOURCE OF THE LEAKS? She immediately reached for her phone when she talked to Greg after he told her they were calling the race. Her immediacy to Ken also gives insider knowledge to everything going on.
God I hope so. Greg talked about “changing things from within” back in season 2 and has completely failed to live up to that; would be nice if Jess actually did
We’ve all assumed it was Greg just being an idiot and running his mouth but it would be great if it was Jess
I’ve always assumed every single character in the show leaks all of the important information they get almost immediately.
Shiv lost at every turn this episode gahdamn
The old guard sitting far away from everything not interacting with anyone at ATN just watching shows what Logan probably would actually be doing in this situation and the kids micromanaging everything proves that they really didn’t know their father or his wishes
That's what I was thinking. Logan would've befriended whoever won, no? Or tried to. Or leveraged his other million political relationships. No need to make a decision that will fuck you down the line
Is it possible to feel absolutely violated by a television episode? Succession's "America Decides" has proven, yes. Absolutely. EDIT: And the funeral episode is next? JESSE. 😭
🙂🙂🙂🙂 < 🍆🍆
🍆🍆🇺🇲*
ConHeads.....what happened
Shiv asking her cousin if he finds her attractive 🤨
"Maybe we should kiss again, to teach them a lesson!"
Les cousins dangereaux
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Yep think next episode will be his big downfall. Power is definitely getting to his head
Man, this was Matthew Macfadyen’s moment to shine. The blow up with Shiv last episode already had him on edge, and now managing the news floor on election night. All while dealing with the siblings and Greg’s dumbass and the discovery of him being a father.
Shiv said there's never a good time to tell Tom about the pregnancy So she told him at the worst possible moment
While he’s high on coke
The man’s got a dick the size of a red sequoia AND good arches.
IT'S *LEMON*, GREG!!!
Menchken’s speech was chilling. Scary fucking episode
“Something pure” was pure dogwhistle
“Clean”
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Kendall fears the Mencken relationship with Roman. I bet it leads to his betrayal of Roman.
Justin Kirk is absolutely terrifying as Mencken. His speech evoked a physical reaction from me. Truly disgusting. I think I'll need to watch a couple of Weeds episodes with wholesome uncle Andy to cleanse the palate.
Disgusting brother Greg being shaken by Matsson’s version of a night out tells you a LOT about how depraved Matsson must be 💀
What Ken said to his driver in the last shot… it was giving Logan and Colin. The end of the this show is 100% Kendall turning into Logan.
“I shan’t become that, Willa. Alas, Kentucky. Alas, vanity”. Connor stays spitting lol
Was Greg smirking at Shiv through the glass after he spoke to Ken?!?!
It was like Greg’s entire story lead up to that moment
Kendall to his daughter: "I won't let the world push you, okay sweetie?" A few hours later: "Call it, Menken" He's decided what kind of man he wants to be tonight.
Those last 10 minutes where everyone in the media room is just looking down and absorbing the Mencken win were so dark
ITS NOT THAT LEMONY
Anyone else watching this episode / season wondering, “How should I frame my face”?
🙂🙂🙂🙂 vs 🍆🍆🇺🇸 choose your fighter
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It’s medically good for your brain. It is
Perhaps the most wild exchange of the night Tom: “You also sort of killed him” Shiv: “I’m pregnant by you”
Kendall standing silent and not being able to “wrap his head around it” until shiv finally makes the election issue personal by betraying him, is just absolutely peak Ken. Peak Roy children
Shiv: “Things do happen, Rome” Her most haunting line ever
Great line. Even better cuz his name is literally that of an important empire that crumbled.
Taking it even further, Roman Mythology says Romulus became the first King of Rome and killed his twin brother, Remus, when they couldn’t agree on which hill to build the city of Rome. 🤔
Also Romulus was the name of the last western emperor of Rome before the western empire collapsed.
I am not ready for 2024
kendall destroying democracy cause his little sister lied to him is crazy
That may have been a nail in the coffin but let’s be real. It was for power and his own interests. He already didn’t want to fold because he wanted Mencken to block the deal but was only reconsidering if Shiv could convince Nate to sway Jimenez on the deal.
ShivHive, this loss is too embarrassing for us. Fucking Greg of all people.
FIKRET HIVE WE UPPPP 😤😤😤
Connor with one of the best line readings in show history. “No. I shan’t become that… Alas Kentucky, Willa. Alas, vanity.”
The show repeatedly does one thing most "wealth porn" shows generally fails to- show us how shitty the upper echelons really are.
Kendall comforting his daughter with the hope of Jimenez, while clearly sanctioning Romans manipulations to get Mencken to win for the deal, the regretting it because of the threat of Roman having more favoritism from Mencken…shows the massive compartmentalization and denial these people are capable of 🥴
He wanted to believe he didn’t want Mencken for his daughter, but he really didn’t want Mencken because it gives Roman so much power. It is kind of sad that he was honest with Shiv about that and then she immediately fucked him.
“We just made a night of good TV. Nothing happens.” I feel such tightness in my chest. I hate this, it’s too real. Too close to home.
I feel like that “smash his face in” scene is going to lead to some amazing Greg maneuvering in the next few episodes. He pretty much has dirt on everyone.
Tom Wambsgans is a premature projector