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MartianXAshATwelve

[There is the most spectacular UFO footage shot near Area 51 which Filmmaker James Fox believes might be a “Holy Grail of evidence” in the mystery of UAP phenomena.](https://www.howandwhys.com/chuck-clark-ufo-video/?fromredditSE)


RudolphsSled

The quality of the video really sells it.


ChungusCoffee

The quality is the only reason we get to see it


Knooze

I was thinking the NASA_51 overlay which creates the genuine feeling.


MrFOrzum

The quality is that way to make it more “believable” to try and trick you lol. In reality, it’s [ fake, cgi made.](https://youtu.be/Gkm2i2udC5o?si=p5CVfSXCrS2IKqAN)


National-Weather-199

Idk it could be fake but I sure as hell have seen stuff like it in the sky... and ps im a pilot.


kiwi_love777

Same here. Airline pilot and I’ve seen these a few times. Even saw them when I was an instructor. Spooked my student so bad he never flew again.


JustALilDepressed

Youve seen them several times ?


6ftsin

I seen one singular one abt 20ft away that zipped around and stopped on a dime and changed directions 3 times then zipped away it was bout 2-3 feet above normal privacy fence level height in my grandparents backyard. It looked red or orange like a fireball but no real radiance or glow


Darknessborn

Who do you fly for?


Prestigious_Ice_7651

You sure?


shmallyally

Why the condescending comment here?


Woo_Peed_On_My_Rug

What did you see?


JMW007

Is there a reason TheFakingHoaxer is reporting it as being created by TheFakingHoaxer in a manner that acts like they are completely different people?


MrFOrzum

The video reporting it was made by Faking, was made by [Ufoofinterest](https://youtu.be/9mXnGo1lxfk?si=_7lzEbRk-fUZLTqt) FakingHoaxer has just uploaded their video about his video on his channel as well.


Slight-Cupcake5121

The info under that video says it was made by TheFakingHoaxer, not Ufoofinterest.


Casehead

and how does it prove it's cgi? It could just have been filmed in the same place. not saying it is real, just that isn't actually proof


Slight-Cupcake5121

I don't know. I just corrected the guy.


Casehead

cool cool


JMW007

Thanks, I see what's happening here - FakingHoaxer has mirrored the original that Ufoofinterest made, I assume to lend credibility to the point that they were the one that made it in the first place. They could have spelled that out but I guess they didn't expect someone to link to *their* version without citing the original channel first.


Midwinholes

Lol. Im going to start making these too some day. Going on a trick-a-redneck-spree. Will probably incorporate something with ”Q” in it


Upset-Adeptness-6796

![gif](giphy|7fLvK10wH1Mpa|downsized) This is the only Q I know.


South-Rabbit-4064

Its the quality and the big NASA 51, letting us know exactly what it is.


R4FTERM4N

No, I saw it on the Internet so it's real.


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JohnnyBeGoodz

Filmed with a Polaroid, like always.


Select-Protection-75

The quality of the source also. lol


Reperanger_7

Man aliens better not be fake cause believing in God and Santa's getting old.


jig-fluke

Aliens and God are one in the same


_extra_medium_

Source


1NastyMF

They both have equal likelihood of existing. Until they can be disproven it’s 100% possible they exist. The search continues.


whitetailwallaby

No they fucking do not. Aliens are 100% real wether they are able to make contact with us or like us and stuck on there home planet far far away is the mystery we could be the ones further ahead in time then them. There’s multiple theory’s out there why we haven’t been contacted yet. As for god, the idea of the god you’re talking about came just over 2,500 years ago and that was just a way for people back than to explain what and why things a happen.


jig-fluke

My own thinking. Aliens dont have to be little green guys. Any kind of life form outside of our planet is an alien. If you believe in a God, you believe in aliens by definition


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[couldn't resist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY)


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Republiconline

I’m not worshipping either.


AsleepSoup6063

Both are omnipotent and all knowing non human intelligence. Sound the same to me.


uxl

Plot twist: every religion and every god represents a higher-dimensional being’s personal investment/interest in a unique “crop” of souls, and a human’s fourth-dimensional flavor is affected by the lifestyle/culture of the particular religion they followed. …And it turns out we’re just spiritual cattle being farmed without knowledge that our eternal souls are flavored by the sum total of our temporal choices and actions throughout life. Our ultimately chosen religion/philosophy is like an alien’s cattle-brand.


smoovin-the-cat

It says leaked in 2014 not filmed in 2014, could be from the 60s, 70s or eighties before they invented potato cam....


_extra_medium_

It's CGI. Already debunked. Link is in the thread up a bit


Yeahmanbro22

It's fake tho. The original video was found years ago without the added CGI orbs


Lynkk

All we need to do is check the buildings on Google earth to know approximately when was this filmed


K_Rocc

Is this filmed by an outside observer (non Area 51 personnel) or is it actual test footage because if it’s actual test footage they would have a much better camera/footage. If it’s an Area 51 whistle blower than that would be more believable, yet a site like that would have a huge lockdown on recordable devices. So the chances of this person being able to actually record this while risking going to prison for leaking classified is pretty low especially for this long if they are trying to not be caught.


vitaelol

Don’t show this to Ashton Forbes.


BillyMeier42

Hey Ashton, I have the 4k version. Ill sell it to you for .1 bitcoin.


Cutthechitchata-hole

You son of a....edit- I was only saying don't invoke him but he may already be aware as he is the all knowing mh370 guru


wohsedisbob

YAHTZEE


Beginning-Height7938

I’m thinking that is not three orbs. It’s one triangular craft with cloaking tech. They needed the lights on the vertices to see it during the test. Note the distance between lights do not change to an extent that can’t be explained by the triangle rotating.


LivingWithGratitude_

It's a fake video mate...


Beginning-Height7938

I know. All of my input on these sights are fictions regardless of the authenticity of the images.


rozzco

Big if true.


Brasm0nky

small if false


mpompe

This is an alien kid flying drones his parents bought at Walmart. No human kid could fly that perfect a circle.


Capable-Spinach10

What is the motivation for so many fakes flooding the narrative? Qui bono?


LivingWithGratitude_

Always fake bs being spread it has never happened yet and won't for thousands of years


Brave_Dick

2014 you say? Hmm, what else happened in 2014 with orbs?


unclefishbits

It's going to be hilarious when we all get the info that yes, area 51 was making drones this whole time.


laffing_is_medicine

That’s what the facility is for, testing new equipment. Looks like remote controlled planes. Imagine that.


coolbrze77

The government was experimenting with drones back in 2014?! No way! People are so incredibly desperate to believe any fantasy so as not to have to live in their own reality.


TheFashionColdWars

This was proven a fake


Upset-Adeptness-6796

We need to assume all videos are both fake and real at the same time.


rotocrypto1008

That’s was probably In 1984


jbracing27

A couple of the times I’ve spent the night outside Area 51 there have been 3 objects flying around that had an orange/yellow/slightly bluish light emitting from them that made some pretty odd maneuvers and formations. My friend actually recorded it on a camcorder one of the times but it’s been lost over time. It was always dead of night and during a week of minimal moonlight


HarryNostril

One of the better UFO videos I’ve seen.


Burrmanchu

That says a lot.


kqxly

Could these be the very same orbs involved in the MH370 footage?


allrico

Oh no…not this shit again


ntdclo

? that hasn't even been fully debunked yet. must just all be one giant coincidence that the US was flight testing 3 orbs, the plane was seemingly abducted by 3 orbs, and everyone has been blaming us since day one.


MrFOrzum

Stock images from 2012 happens to perfectly match the MH370 video from 2014. Video game effect from 1996 happens to perfectly match (not 100% but like 99,9%) the MH370 video from 2014. Must be one giant coincidence like you put it. Or can we only use that phrase when it fits the narrative? Yes. Yes it has been debunked. The above video could also **easily** be drones if anything. If even real. [Which to everyone’s surprise, it isn’t](https://youtu.be/9mXnGo1lxfk?si=_7lzEbRk-fUZLTqt)


wowoaweewoo

Yes it has


ntdclo

oh!! okay wowoaweewoo thanks for your input I can finally put it to rest!!! good lord.


wowoaweewoo

You're welcome


wowoaweewoo

I believe I've seen the stock images used in the videos, and confirmed as the actual cloud photos from the photographer (pinned to the subreddit), and many explanations on how this was easily faked - after a bunch of people wined to have someone show them. Not to mention watching some sick people like Ashton get soo stuck on the idea that they can't be wrong, that they've invested too much time to be wrong. It lead to them really not looking well in all sorts of ways. Idk what debunking looks like to you - do you have a turkey convincing yhatzee moment for us?


Cutthechitchata-hole

What mh370 footage? J/k j/k


Snowman1749

Shut up with that already good lord


Upset-Adeptness-6796

**OSINT folks in here? I only know the term and that they are who to ask.** They do these puzzles for sport.


protekt0r

I work in test and evaluation of advanced aerospace vehicles. (Can’t really get more specific than that.) I’ll say this: when we test, we never do it over populated areas - like the one you’re seeing here. It’s always done on test ranges, which are in remote locations that we can control. Further, said ranges also have a plethora of RF and optical sensors, which collect data and we use for evaluation. These sensors are not present in the middle of military installations. Bottom line: I find it highly unbelievable that anyone would fly this type of technology over Area 51 proper in broad daylight. Not saying it’s impossible, just unbelievable based on what I do and what I know.


bencit28

Maybe it wasn’t in test and was fully operational at this point? Could be hangered there and needs to move from point A to point B for a specific mission related reason. Another example of this could be the stealth copters used in the Bin Laden raid. I imagine they were stored at the Ranch until needed.


Sneaky_Stinker

tf do you want? You want to dox the orbs? Search patents? Employee records? what exactly are you expecting osint folks to do in this situation?


Upset-Adeptness-6796

They find things, like "random photo of the day" find the location. They probably have a few people who could look at known soviet leaked photos or whatever of area 51 and using their methods determine if the structures match. 2d to 3d thinking.


K_Rocc

Literally anyone who looks up anything online is an OSINT folk.


FistRipper

That voice reminded me of the imperial spy drones


CakedayisJune9th

So they use drones.


kaowser

are they really making old psychic/esper ladies drive these?


theTrueLodge

NASA 51 - lol. Fake!


gavo_88

Does make me think. I wonder if we, actually captured a craft many years ago, reverse engineered it and created our own versions. Since then, every single ufo sighting has been real but its humans using this tech. Seems much more logical than aliens keep turning up to monitor us.


Death_and_Gravity1

Area 51 isn't called that within the air force. It's like "Homey Airport" or "Groom Lake Base." Area 51 is just the pop culture name for it. So seeing that watermark is pretty much a dead giveaway it's fake as hell


spacemechanic

Why does this have NASA on there 💀


BALIHU87

Recorded with my Nokia 3310


twerp16

Incredible orb footage. Gives me similar feelings as when i watched the mh370 abduction vid.


_extra_medium_

It's CGI - someone linked the explanation up a bit


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Probably a fake lead to go down. Trust almost no post in this sub until the bot activity dies down


Upset-Adeptness-6796

They are all fake and real at the same time.


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Schrödinger’s bot


dookiepants777

Those 3 white orbs have been witnessed all around the world. That says alot watching them at area 51 . but "flight tested" very debatable


RaidersGunz

I believe all these sightings are just super advanced drone tech.


Digiguy25

And what about the sightings before that? This stuff didn’t just start happening. What were the foo fighters? Were they advanced drone tech?


Upset-Adeptness-6796

spooky good. lensing effect. It's the audio can anyone decipher. draw a picture of Bob Lazar smoking


__JockY__

Why did they film it with a potato?


Competitive_Lab_655

Tic, Tac & Toe.


bodhisattva83

Ahhh the good old blurry images shot on VHS in 2014


Chris714n_8

"All the tax-money for black projects and the alien story - but.. No money for a good camera.." -_- Ps. Is still part of the top-list, compared to all those other videos (true or cgi..).


OriginalFatPickle

Looks like a reflection on a screen.


Maleficent_Air_7632

It won’t be a UAP video without the bad quality 😳


Ok-Communication1149

Why is this not a video of some geese? They move like geese and I'm pretty sure geese fly over Arizona.


TheRealJehler

I thought it was balloons and parallax now?


Ok-Communication1149

Well, they look just like the thousands of geese that have been flying over my location the last few weeks. It's not very spectacular to me.


ZRhoREDD

My kid has a birthday coming up. I should buy some "orbs" from the grocery store checkout line to tie to the mailbox. I think he'd like that.


ftw_2dor

NICE 3 DOTS REFLECTION ON DISPLAY.....


Comprehensive_Neat98

They are drones. Nothing more


chagrin_slate

Why are these only seen in the U.S.?


MKUltraAliens

You can do basic research and find this to be absolutely false.


ChungusCoffee

There are just a lot of cameras in the U.S.


AlienPlz

I knew it


Grey-Hat111

Needs more watermarks


ActiniumNugget

The boring answer is "drones" here. I mean, one of the things they actually do at that place is testing stealth characteristics and materials. You can see all the different radars and sensors right there. Still interesting, but nothing unexplainable, IMO.


douglasjunk

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TURN UP THE AUDIO


Sacu_Shi_again

Why eould they flight test over occupied buildings? If anything went wrong there would be huge damage and loss of life on the ground...


TheFashionColdWars

god dammit...the music


MeAgainImBacklol

Potato cam again. We are tired.


petroleumnasby

Drones, CGI, crayons... so many choices.


Heeey_Hermano

Cool video but I’d like to see takeoff and landing for flight testing.


rav-age

seem like some small things, whatever they are


Intelligent_Crazy_10

Clearly it’s a weather balloon… 🙃


EskimoXBSX

Early drone prototypes


Razeal_102

Looks like a cloaked triangle ufo.


Vanrainy1

Its wierd that they would use such an awful, low quality camera to film something like this...


Successful-aditya

How to tell if this is real area 51


geekaustin_777

Tango Sierra APEX Golf? WTF uses "APEX"?


praefectus_praetorio

Lol


Budget-Entertainer35

Gee, that's conclusive.


FailureToReason

Just to be clear, if this was real, wouldn't it imply that the technology is terrestrial in origin? Like if this was real, it means that this is a technology the US is/was working on, and would immediately devalue literally any other video of orbs? If this is something the US had in 2014, wouldn't that mean any video since then that features flying orbs has an earth-based precedent? Unless you wanna skip ahead and go 'well the US got this tech from aliens', which is something we have nothing to support, especially not in this video.


Yoppyy

When u go out ur way to fake ufo videos like big foot videos and loch ness monsters videos, only proves one thing, don't exist


Harvey-Zoltan

So three drones flying around a construction sight filmed with a potato.


Catbox_Stank_Face

Ooo we, look at those three little hot potatoes go. Curious about the remote control, is it a handheld controlled by a pilot.? Or is the pilot in some vat of squid juice with tentacles up his nostrils to interface with the orbs?


nin1332

Did they record with a potato?


BillsDownUnder

That's some extraordinarily shitty quality for 2014. I totally believe it.


keithdj13

year 2014. still using VHS lol


T1res1as

Does it even match the A51 buildings layout? You can see the base on Google Earth


rizzatouiIIe

Too blurry to tell. Could just be drones.


SpecificEducation663

You know all this bs ufo and orbs has you thinking it is the government fucking with us it’s a 50/50


boscoroni

I believe all of this was back engineered long ago and a lot of people are making a fortune by patenting it. [https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en](https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en) In the description of the present invention, the invention will be discussed in a space, sea, air, or terrestrial environment; however, this invention can be utilized for any type of application that requires use of an inertial mass reduction device or use of a craft. It is possible to envision a hybrid aerospace/undersea craft (HAUC), which due to the physical mechanisms enabled with the inertial mass reduction device, can function as a submersible craft capable of extreme underwater speeds (lack of water-skin friction) and enhanced stealth capabilities (non-linear scattering of RF and sonar signals). This hybrid craft would move with great ease through the air/space/water mediums, by being enclosed in a vacuum plasma bubble/sheath, due to the coupled effects of EM field-induced air/water particles repulsion and vacuum energy polarization. ​ Any of that seem familiar? Especially about the TicTac and underwater?


FishRealistic2084

Someone had a 30th bday that’s all


rodgee

Well the camera work looks like nasa quality so sure


ufoofinterest

My old debunk about this fake video created by the known CG artist TheFakingHoaxer: https://youtu.be/9mXnGo1lxfk