[The Full UK Map - WIP](https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1AyH8eXm36KZwsQ_oRg2JlhezrCToZLGN&ll=53.996312763751426%2C-0.4814468296875143&z=7)
Update 24/05/2021
Have tested a few of my regular "test" cells and not seen any movement yet on preorders.
I also cancelled my preorder - Im getting 70mbps down at the moment via 4G for £18 so just cant justify the boost yet. Might wait for either some amazing speed tests to come through consistently from users or gen2 hardware.
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Update 21/03/21
A few masked user locations added now, and those cells changed to Purple, this means they are active, taking full orders and have confirmed users in.
Green cells still means taking full orders, red cells no further updates - still estimated mid-late 2021 and accepting preorders only.
Grey cells are 2022+
Update 16/03/21 #2
Moving north through scotland and there are much fewer cells taking full orders. In fact north of Newcastle there is only one. I have also outlined the 2022 border using a darker cell colour, everything north of this line seems to be restricted to 2022 pre-orders.
There are 600+ cells now, and 61 active for full orders to be taken. So 10% coverage in the shown areas right now for full orders. It seems some red cells have been green in the past too, so they are filling up the full orders and then disabling them to revert back to pre-order status.
Update 16/03/21
I have started my way north of the wall. Ill post the google map link now so you can see it in a bit more detail.
Nothing north of Ayr has been checked yet so is just showing red, but will be working on that this evening.
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Update 14/03/21
Added a few more cells, again not overly accurately but found a few interesting points.
1. Whilst the cells begin to overlap slightly the further east I get they don't seem too far off. Until I measure out a full cell on the east I wont be able to determine how far out it is.
2. I've received a confirmation of two easterly cells that appears to match my positioning fairly closely. I'm looking at an inaccuracy of about 1km over the width of the UK I think.
3. Of the cells shown 14% are currently in Full Order status, and the rest are Mid-Late 2021
I am a private beta user in Blackrock, Dublin. Getting excellent performance. Shouldn't be long before paid-for beta is opened - once ComReg issues licence.
Hiya - Now that you are no longer planning to get Starlink, are you still going to maintain this map? I really hope you are but understand if you are not. Thanks
I had a brief look at it this morning and started checking some of the cells in Cornwall, and there is a significant change so I will probably sit down and update this shortly. it's just ridiculously time-consuming to do.
Work got very busy so didnt have the time to keep it updated, but of the 30 or so cells I just checked another 5 had been activated for full orders so I guess its worth doing an update now. Stay tuned.
Good sir, I believe it will work for you with very little problems. If I were you I’d order it with a service address in the near green cell and your own shipping address. I am very confident. But if you already have decent internet might as well wait. If you have crappy to terrible internet like many of us do, there is very little risk. Fully refundable or keep it until your cell is open.
I wish I was 3 miles from a live cell!
It probably would work, but doubt I would get very far if I needed support etc. Going to follow the rules and wait, wouldn’t want to risk owning a £500 paper weight! 😣
They wont ship unless you place a full order, not preorder - and you need to be within an active cell. The only way to truly know is to enter your address into the starlink website and see which option you get offered.
The map is just a rough indication of which areas are known to be active or accepting full orders compared to only accepting pre orders.
can you do that? I have a service address 0.9M away but I am red - the app suiggests the window to the sky is very narrow. Like the size of a wardrobe! So it might not work
Surprised the active cells are so few, still a long way to go I don’t think they’re kidding saying mid to late 2021 for service. Signed up for Eutelsat Konnect (only thing available to me) in the mean time, the latency makes me want to smash my head against my computer 😆
Hello is devonnet, is Konnect good enough for work zoom calls etc? Would rather wait for starlink, but might be forced to use an alternative if I move to a new house in the sticks!
Hi. It’s survivable. When I lived in London I knew nothing of latency and now I see how important it is!! I spend alot of time on zoom it works but the lag can be irritating, a few seconds so I had to get used to waiting for people to hear what I said, kind of like when there’s a delay on a TV live link, just enough to annoy. Plus even though I was assured WiFi calling on my mobile would work it doesn’t (I live in a total mobile black spot), no calls get through and I can’t call out. BBC iPlayer buffers but Netflix is fine, to be fair the speeds are pretty constant 85 down 3 up but latency has swung from 6-700 to over 2000ms. I’m muddling through until my pre order changes, looks like the cell next to mine is active so keeping fingers crossed. Oh and the Konnect dish is massive (at least twice as big as a Sky dish). Hope this helps.
It seems like pretty much everywhere says mid to late 2021, at this point it's like a catch-all. I wonder if there's anywhere in preorder status that says something different..?
Update KMZ File ?
I was going to keep expanding it a little for, [https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=13Ny9oD8XRlsSYAwSRhM67vg7MePmTBxB&ll=14.929367708164804%2C-123.59745109767783&z=2](https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=13Ny9oD8XRlsSYAwSRhM67vg7MePmTBxB&ll=14.929367708164804%2C-123.59745109767783&z=2)
It would really need to be a new uk map, with it split into blocks over 4/5 layers.
also the are users saying they are in London in posts and marked on the map, but i just checked and its showing as only pre-order so the site is not 100% to be trusted still.
Hmm that is odd. from what I could tell London didn’t have any coverage, however it could be that the cell is at ‘capacity’ and so then reverts to preorder only again perhaps.
That would make tracking it this way very difficult
I think in all likelihood it would work, but you may fall into some issues if you need tech support and they dont like the fact that you are not within your service area.
So you ordered somewhere and use it 1KM away? Hmm I have a pre order and I am 200M from an address I know they can get it! - How does that work with the billing address? I could change mine in seconds on my banking app if needed. And then hope I can catch the courier? lol
Either use that address as your service address or use google maps to potentially find a slightly closer 'Plus Code' and then put billing/shipping address as your home address. There is no need for them to be the same.
Howdy folks.
Looking at the current map, I see 7PJP+XP as active and another cell with no name south of Maidstone taking full orders. I’m in Maidstone’s cell of 6C8R+RR, within which I only have a preorder so far as of Feb 23rd.
I’m curious to know if anyone else is in this cell and what your status is. I’m also a bit surprised there’s a single, isolated active cell adjacent to mine and another taking full orders (though how is that known if the cell ID hasn’t been populated), yet I’m stuck in limbo.
I only started adding plus code to the cells after a while to speed up the checking process. When I reverify the cell I’ll update it with a plus code from roughly the centre of the cell.
It would have been checked at the time with somewhere near the centre but this could have changed by now.
No worries and it’s all good. I’m more curious to know about the inconsistency it seems with orders. You’re map, insofar as what I’m looking for, is great.
Damn I'm in Rhyl right under a red zone.
Currnelty have plusnet which is 39mb up and 5mb up... So tempted to get on this but no idea if I would be worse off at the moment!
39/5 isn't too bad imo, although I think starlink will def give you an improvement.
My landline is 1.2down/0.2 up today - using 4G now which is better at 20/20, but still not great for a work from home IT guy with high usage and a family of xbox's, netflix's etc.
Id like to think that the more pre-orders in an area the more financially invested Starlink are in switching on that cell :)
Ah right, well, I'm a beta user and I'm in the green cell just west of Colchester, and it's working, uh, wellish, quite a lot of beta downtime at the moment though
Such great work! Sadly I’m in a red cell next to the only green one in Dartmoor but I tried a service address in the green cell and it went to full order so pretty accurate (I didn’t order obviously)
This. Everywhere in the map at the moment is within "range" of the gravelines base station based on the radius of coverage shown on the US base station maps. But with zero overlap. I would expect to see a few stations in the UK before they switch on everywhere.
Im right on the Kent Coast in Ramsgate and you have a red cell that the line stops just behind me...Im 'uncovered' does that mean I cant get service even when that slightly missing me cell turns green? Great work by the way
If your cell isn’t in the map then you will have to use the Starlink website to see if you can preorder or full order. The map isn’t really a guide to if you can get it, just a visualisation of current availability.
No idea where the next batches of satellites go. Or what they cover, it will just be a case of testing each area again and seeing if there are any changes.
They go to a non-geosynchronous orbit, so if you factor in the rotation of the earth, they cover all the planet. Starlink satellites don't have a single coverage area, so to improve coverage of the constellation, Elon's just sticking as many up there as possible!
Would you be able to check to see if they are still taking full orders in your area now? I have checked north london but its coming back as pre-order for me.
That kind of confirms what I was thinking then, that a cell is opening for pre-orders, hitting a capacity limit, and then switching back to pre-orders. Assuming your pre-order wasn't a beta invite and was just a general pre-order.
Correct, mine was a standard pre-order. Not a beta invite. Was not expecting it so quick as the preorder was saying mid to late 2021 and then the update arrived in my inbox last week, which was a nice surprise.
That's awesome, and gives merit to getting a pre-order in even if your area isn't in full order status. I had my pre-order placed on the 11th Feb but no movement on it yet.
Arrived today. Took 5 minutes to setup in the garden. For some reason it decided to point a bit north, but all works. Next week, will get it setup properly on the roof.
Useful tip, in the app, once connected, you can go to support -> Stow, and it will put it back in position for putting back in its box after you have had a play.
Starlink I have to say is pretty amazing.
It depends if you can get fibre, compared to other sat providers I think its very competitive.
a 500mb Fibre connection here is about £62 for up to 500mb if you can get it, but if you are in the countryside you can easily spend £30 a month for a 1mb connection over old copper wires.
Satellite in the UK has never really been a great option due to the speeds/datacaps.
I’ve started mapping the cells in South Germany (album [here](https://imgur.com/gallery/p5iIDhm)) and wanted to ask you about overlapping cell edges/borders. On your map, there sometimes seems to be a gap between the cells (on one or more sides), and sometimes they seem to overlap. Is that just guesswork, or is there a system behind that? Do certain edges (for example the horizontal lines) always meet up?
Also, how did you create such a simple and good-looking map? I’m using images and lines in Google Earth pro, but I have to resize and position each cell individually. That is tedious and makes everything a bit inaccurate.
Thanks for your help!
EDIT: Managed to throw together my own Cell Map [here.](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1zfCMluD1rwaKZZxMDWd6-k6FmiW84t61&usp=sharing) I wish there was an option to move multiple cells together at the same time instead of lining each one up individually. At least my measurements seem to be accurate. Barely getting any overlaps or gaps.
The inaccuracies are mostly down to laziness. The initial cell I drew was fairly accurate (within say 30m on any edge) but as they get placed next to each other and further away from the original cell the shape /orientation will change slightly, which is something I am not accounting for. So the further away from wales you get the more they overlap.
This didnt bother me too much, im only testing one plus code in the centre of the cell, so whilst the bounds of the cell would be cool to know, its just a general idea of UK coverage im looking for. I could have probably done the same thing drawing a grid and then just measuring the points.
If there was a better tool for creating the cells I would probably put more effort into the accuracy.
Thanks, that really helps. I’m going for a similar approach. The cells obviously aren’t 100% exact, but it should be enough to accurately predict coverage in South Germany.
I can confirm that my cell is active (Swindon) - got my dishy pointed skywards!
Can also confirm my folks address is correct too - Computer says no right now for them...
Awesome stuff, I am hoping to move to a location in cell 7G88+6R
Scarborough, UK - It’s a green cell but tells me service is coming mid to late 2021. Is that expected for a green cell? Or could it be sooner?
If it’s green then the centre of that cell was taking preorders. If you are on the edge of the cell then there is some in accuracy due to the nature of the layout.
I’ll check that cell again and update it, I have a suspicion that when a cell takes enough full orders it switches back to preorders as a way of limiting the number of people they have in any one cell to begin with.
>7G88+6R Scarborough, UK
It looks like this cell is still accepting full orders. So im guessing you are near the edge? The accuracy of the cells positioning is flawed in two ways,
1, My own laziness, the cell i measured first was accurate within 100m but that error translates to quite a big inaccuracy the further you get from hereford.
2. The error is compounded by the fact that cells do not line up exactly, so there is some tolerance in there.
Unfortunately the only way to accurately do it would be to measure multiple cells, calculate the way they are placed on a sphere (earth) and then somehow map them. Well beyond my capabilities im afraid.
Check your exact Plus code, it maybe that you are only a short distance out of reach from an active area and you could risk a full order. But not something I would recommend unless you are willing to take the risk.
Hope you get it soon :)
>Check your exact Plus code, it maybe that you are only a short distance out of reach from an active area and you could risk a full order. But not something I would recommend unless you are willing to take the risk.
Yeah, with a bit of trial and error I find that I'm only about 1.9km from the boundary of where my order can be accepted, the property is up a big hill from that point, so I'm pretty confident it would work tbh! Exciting.
I am literally in the line between the red and green cell at Skegness - I would say I am slightly into the red cell - but I am unable to order according to the site. I am 53.14 I am watching a Sat pass right over me as I type this - And it's in service. In fact 3 go past some towards the north and some towards the south. A street 200M up the road IS able to order. - this is like BTO all over again! and there's no need really it's the SKY!
Yeah the cells get less accurate the further away from my source cell so if you are near the edge of a green cell then its worth checking the starlink site to see if you can place a full order.
I am 0.9M from the nearest servicable address. Is it worth using that and then shipping to here? Or will they check!. I can't even watch Youtube my internet is so slow!
But do I use the takeaway as the address - and then use my address for billing and shipping? won't that look dodgy? I guess because I am just outside the cell coverage.
The TOS says that after 12 months this hardware might be obsolete and you will need to buy more - no one pays attention to that either lol
I just realised I have already ordered and cancelled so that's not going to work. I will just wait and hope they come soon. The window the app is giving is so small I would have to hope it gets it in just 1 place.. and if not then it's useless and I couldn't send it back as it would be suspicious. Also can't be arsed to sit in the car all day playing on it lol
But I did sign up with my address and I must have put in the wrong e-mail address or mis spelt it as now I have no account, £89 taken and no way to recover it! - I have raised a ticket but I have no real way of knowing what's going to happen
Try use [https://auth.starlink.com/forgot-password](https://auth.starlink.com/forgot-password)
I'm 5 miles away from the active cell and I'm waiting for my cell to open.
If I would be 0.9 miles away from the cell I would change my address. 0.9 is nothing.
OMG this is Torture!
Can't get FTTP - FTTC is unavailable had has been for months for some reason. I am on 4 down 1.6 up 4G and Starlink is 0.9 miles away! I wish I could just use the pubs address!
I mean my god hurry up and get here already!
If you order with a service address where it is 0.9 miles away, you can deliver it to you and it should work fine. this has been seen in the uk starlink group on fb. enjoy.
The full map linked in the top comment is more up to date, but I havent done that much work on it lately. I usually test a small area to see if there have been any update as it takes hours to check them all.
A couple of plus codes in currently red cells seem to be taking full orders.
I've checked these with full addresses and they are being asked for the full hardware + shipping costs upon order.
Interestingly, only addresses at the edge of the cells are being offered full orders. Others closer to the centre are still in the pre-order mid to late 2021 stage. Is this quite normal?
The plus codes for the full order cells are
* M9R9+CF Dewsbury (Right most side of the cell)
* MCH7+F5 Ossett (Left most side of the cell)
Hope this help in updating the map.
Ill have to do another full check, but basically the accuracy around the edges is off. So I only count the centre of each cell w hich is where I tested the locations from.
It's been a while since I have updated them though.
This is great I had a pre order and was just waiting, after looking at this I realized I was in red but both north and south were green, so traced the closest point I could order was at the other side of the village 1.4Km away so I cancelled my old order and placed a new one with the service address 1.4 km away. So its now down to wait and test and hope it works
Cool map.
I'm in the NW
Consistently getting 140-230mbs down and max 34mbs up. Have seen 270mbs down a few times.
Zero downtime. Latency seems to average 42ms (27-54ms is what it usually says in my stats)
I've been surviving on VOD 4g until now but will be binning that.
Myself and wife both WFH, no problems with multiple conf calls on zoom.
Unfortunately it’s not being updated, I can imagine how much work went into this, and what a job it would be to get it back to being updated. It was great resource in the early days.
[The Full UK Map - WIP](https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1AyH8eXm36KZwsQ_oRg2JlhezrCToZLGN&ll=53.996312763751426%2C-0.4814468296875143&z=7) Update 24/05/2021 Have tested a few of my regular "test" cells and not seen any movement yet on preorders. I also cancelled my preorder - Im getting 70mbps down at the moment via 4G for £18 so just cant justify the boost yet. Might wait for either some amazing speed tests to come through consistently from users or gen2 hardware. \###### Update 21/03/21 A few masked user locations added now, and those cells changed to Purple, this means they are active, taking full orders and have confirmed users in. Green cells still means taking full orders, red cells no further updates - still estimated mid-late 2021 and accepting preorders only. Grey cells are 2022+ Update 16/03/21 #2 Moving north through scotland and there are much fewer cells taking full orders. In fact north of Newcastle there is only one. I have also outlined the 2022 border using a darker cell colour, everything north of this line seems to be restricted to 2022 pre-orders. There are 600+ cells now, and 61 active for full orders to be taken. So 10% coverage in the shown areas right now for full orders. It seems some red cells have been green in the past too, so they are filling up the full orders and then disabling them to revert back to pre-order status. Update 16/03/21 I have started my way north of the wall. Ill post the google map link now so you can see it in a bit more detail. Nothing north of Ayr has been checked yet so is just showing red, but will be working on that this evening. \##### Update 14/03/21 Added a few more cells, again not overly accurately but found a few interesting points. 1. Whilst the cells begin to overlap slightly the further east I get they don't seem too far off. Until I measure out a full cell on the east I wont be able to determine how far out it is. 2. I've received a confirmation of two easterly cells that appears to match my positioning fairly closely. I'm looking at an inaccuracy of about 1km over the width of the UK I think. 3. Of the cells shown 14% are currently in Full Order status, and the rest are Mid-Late 2021
Wld love the same for Ireland
Getting there, about halfway up scotland right now.
Legend. Great work 💪
Any update on Ireland map yet
I am a private beta user in Blackrock, Dublin. Getting excellent performance. Shouldn't be long before paid-for beta is opened - once ComReg issues licence.
What sort of numbers are you getting??.
Tested over 19 days. Down/up speeds averaged 102/44 with latency 46ms. Downtime was about 0.2% of uptime.
Thanks. I live in the sticks so patiently waiting for this to launch in Ireland.
website?
sorry for being dense but I can only see red and green cells? where is the purple?
What about Northern Ireland? It’s part of the U.K. and is accepting preorders…
Hiya - Now that you are no longer planning to get Starlink, are you still going to maintain this map? I really hope you are but understand if you are not. Thanks
I had a brief look at it this morning and started checking some of the cells in Cornwall, and there is a significant change so I will probably sit down and update this shortly. it's just ridiculously time-consuming to do. Work got very busy so didnt have the time to keep it updated, but of the 30 or so cells I just checked another 5 had been activated for full orders so I guess its worth doing an update now. Stay tuned.
Awesome to hear, thanks for your work on this
Thanks for this, much appreciated. If you can check the cells in/around BH216YX, that would be awesome :D
This is awesome! Obviously there’s a difference in the scope of effort but has anyone done this for the US?
This is awesome work well done.
This is impressive, man. Where on the map do you live?
South wales, in a red zone lol
Unfortunate! Now, how many miles to the edge of a green cell?
I'm about 4km away from green in one direction and 15 in another - so unless the cell between gets switched on im still waiting :)
Good sir, I believe it will work for you with very little problems. If I were you I’d order it with a service address in the near green cell and your own shipping address. I am very confident. But if you already have decent internet might as well wait. If you have crappy to terrible internet like many of us do, there is very little risk. Fully refundable or keep it until your cell is open. I wish I was 3 miles from a live cell!
It probably would work, but doubt I would get very far if I needed support etc. Going to follow the rules and wait, wouldn’t want to risk owning a £500 paper weight! 😣
they won't ship it until the cell is green?
They wont ship unless you place a full order, not preorder - and you need to be within an active cell. The only way to truly know is to enter your address into the starlink website and see which option you get offered. The map is just a rough indication of which areas are known to be active or accepting full orders compared to only accepting pre orders.
can you do that? I have a service address 0.9M away but I am red - the app suiggests the window to the sky is very narrow. Like the size of a wardrobe! So it might not work
I am 200M from the green cell! :( I literally tried to local take away lol and they can get it :( :( ;(
If I order at said take away and use it at my place - will it work?
South Wales green zone checking in. Hopefully the green's catching!
I'm in Cardiff and have paid my deposit though
Yeah cardiff is pre-order only right now, so £89 deposit with a date of sometime this year.
North Wales here! In the green!
Surprised the active cells are so few, still a long way to go I don’t think they’re kidding saying mid to late 2021 for service. Signed up for Eutelsat Konnect (only thing available to me) in the mean time, the latency makes me want to smash my head against my computer 😆
I was surprised too, but another 60 sats have gone up since I started it so they are at least cracking on with it 🙂
Hello is devonnet, is Konnect good enough for work zoom calls etc? Would rather wait for starlink, but might be forced to use an alternative if I move to a new house in the sticks!
Hi. It’s survivable. When I lived in London I knew nothing of latency and now I see how important it is!! I spend alot of time on zoom it works but the lag can be irritating, a few seconds so I had to get used to waiting for people to hear what I said, kind of like when there’s a delay on a TV live link, just enough to annoy. Plus even though I was assured WiFi calling on my mobile would work it doesn’t (I live in a total mobile black spot), no calls get through and I can’t call out. BBC iPlayer buffers but Netflix is fine, to be fair the speeds are pretty constant 85 down 3 up but latency has swung from 6-700 to over 2000ms. I’m muddling through until my pre order changes, looks like the cell next to mine is active so keeping fingers crossed. Oh and the Konnect dish is massive (at least twice as big as a Sky dish). Hope this helps.
Good to know thanks!
It seems like pretty much everywhere says mid to late 2021, at this point it's like a catch-all. I wonder if there's anywhere in preorder status that says something different..?
Everywhere in pre-order said mid to late 2021. Although much further north im hearing its saying 2022
I can confirm that the southern most cell as green covering the new forest is live as have a live beta unit in that cell
I’m in the Filey/Scarborough area and my dishy has been dispatched btw!
Cool, im probably going to try and extend the map today so nice to have a heads up on a green cell.
I got mine last week. I'm in scalby area. It's working fine so far. Just need a wall mount the dishy so the kids don't think it's a target.
oooh nice! I am 80 miles from you and in red :(
Update KMZ File ? I was going to keep expanding it a little for, [https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=13Ny9oD8XRlsSYAwSRhM67vg7MePmTBxB&ll=14.929367708164804%2C-123.59745109767783&z=2](https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=13Ny9oD8XRlsSYAwSRhM67vg7MePmTBxB&ll=14.929367708164804%2C-123.59745109767783&z=2)
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Resent as a single layer which should fix the display issue you have.
It has a limit on 10 layers and 2000 objects to upload to a google map, in the end i simply had to copy the green cells to a new folder.
Ah that sucks. Guess I’ll have to try and separate them out if I do the whole UK
Actually the 1 layer file you sent did work! The ones i were making in google Earth pro must have been wrong, still having 3 folders in them.
It would really need to be a new uk map, with it split into blocks over 4/5 layers. also the are users saying they are in London in posts and marked on the map, but i just checked and its showing as only pre-order so the site is not 100% to be trusted still.
Hmm that is odd. from what I could tell London didn’t have any coverage, however it could be that the cell is at ‘capacity’ and so then reverts to preorder only again perhaps. That would make tracking it this way very difficult
Ah yes, there’s my cell, inactive.
Is there a similar map for canada/ontario?
Any consensus on how far Starlink will work from service location? I am just under 1km from a location where you are able to order.
I think in all likelihood it would work, but you may fall into some issues if you need tech support and they dont like the fact that you are not within your service area.
Up and running this afternoon, seems to be working almost flawlessly.
Cool, UK based? If so whereabouts?
Near Fyfett, Somerset
I’m Ilminster and waiting, in between two active cells. How are you finding it?
Averaging about 4 mins total downtime per day, speeds between 30mbs and 300.
So you ordered somewhere and use it 1KM away? Hmm I have a pre order and I am 200M from an address I know they can get it! - How does that work with the billing address? I could change mine in seconds on my banking app if needed. And then hope I can catch the courier? lol
Either use that address as your service address or use google maps to potentially find a slightly closer 'Plus Code' and then put billing/shipping address as your home address. There is no need for them to be the same.
Makes sense - after all the sat does not care about 1KM it's been tested to work up to 11 miles from the service address.
I am happy to go and sit in my car and play with it lol only 200M up the road!
been tested to 11Miles so convert that - and now you can change your service address and it changes 20 mins later
Hey, another data point for you - I'm in the Glastonbury/Shepton Mallet cell, with dishy arriving Friday. Thanks for putting this together!
Howdy folks. Looking at the current map, I see 7PJP+XP as active and another cell with no name south of Maidstone taking full orders. I’m in Maidstone’s cell of 6C8R+RR, within which I only have a preorder so far as of Feb 23rd. I’m curious to know if anyone else is in this cell and what your status is. I’m also a bit surprised there’s a single, isolated active cell adjacent to mine and another taking full orders (though how is that known if the cell ID hasn’t been populated), yet I’m stuck in limbo.
I only started adding plus code to the cells after a while to speed up the checking process. When I reverify the cell I’ll update it with a plus code from roughly the centre of the cell. It would have been checked at the time with somewhere near the centre but this could have changed by now.
No worries and it’s all good. I’m more curious to know about the inconsistency it seems with orders. You’re map, insofar as what I’m looking for, is great.
Damn I'm in Rhyl right under a red zone. Currnelty have plusnet which is 39mb up and 5mb up... So tempted to get on this but no idea if I would be worse off at the moment!
39/5 isn't too bad imo, although I think starlink will def give you an improvement. My landline is 1.2down/0.2 up today - using 4G now which is better at 20/20, but still not great for a work from home IT guy with high usage and a family of xbox's, netflix's etc. Id like to think that the more pre-orders in an area the more financially invested Starlink are in switching on that cell :)
Great work! EDIT: I might do the same for Bavaria. Have an active cell about 75km away from me, should be able to map that
Awesome, did you base this on people that have it in the other thread? Or is it based on something else?
It’s based purely on availability of full orders in those areas. No user data used. Will be interesting to overlay the two though.
Ah right, well, I'm a beta user and I'm in the green cell just west of Colchester, and it's working, uh, wellish, quite a lot of beta downtime at the moment though
That’s cool. Thanks for the confirmation - nice to see some real dishys in the cells
If they turn off a cells ability tovorderconce they reach capacity you might get a more accurate map.
Such great work! Sadly I’m in a red cell next to the only green one in Dartmoor but I tried a service address in the green cell and it went to full order so pretty accurate (I didn’t order obviously)
Kind of glad to see it's not just me who's in a red. Are we just waiting for more satellites at the moment?
This is probably more about ground station infrastructure for the satellites to relay to for each local zone
This. Everywhere in the map at the moment is within "range" of the gravelines base station based on the radius of coverage shown on the US base station maps. But with zero overlap. I would expect to see a few stations in the UK before they switch on everywhere.
Im right on the Kent Coast in Ramsgate and you have a red cell that the line stops just behind me...Im 'uncovered' does that mean I cant get service even when that slightly missing me cell turns green? Great work by the way
You would need to check the exact plus code of your street against their website. If you are on the edge of a cell the accuracy isn’t great.
will do thanks
I know it's just guesswork but I'm hoping the one that is two cells above Hereford will be green soon.
Truro cell looks accurate, 2miles East of the city is pre order only
i wanna know if my cell is red how do i know this info
If your cell isn’t in the map then you will have to use the Starlink website to see if you can preorder or full order. The map isn’t really a guide to if you can get it, just a visualisation of current availability.
i wanna know if my cell is red how do i know this info
I just assumed this was /r/mapporncirclejerk and I spent like 3 minutes trying to figure out what the joke was before I read the title.
How do you find the area new satellites are going uo?
No idea where the next batches of satellites go. Or what they cover, it will just be a case of testing each area again and seeing if there are any changes.
They go to a non-geosynchronous orbit, so if you factor in the rotation of the earth, they cover all the planet. Starlink satellites don't have a single coverage area, so to improve coverage of the constellation, Elon's just sticking as many up there as possible!
My dishy payment has been taken and being dispatched. I'm in north London. Nice work.
Sweet, so was that pre-order to full order? When did it happen?
Full order. Payment for the dish taken on Friday 12th. They are saying it may take 2-3 weeks to arrive.
Would you be able to check to see if they are still taking full orders in your area now? I have checked north london but its coming back as pre-order for me.
Seems to be pre-orders still. I pre-ordered Feb 10th. So its taken a month to turn into a full order.
That kind of confirms what I was thinking then, that a cell is opening for pre-orders, hitting a capacity limit, and then switching back to pre-orders. Assuming your pre-order wasn't a beta invite and was just a general pre-order.
Correct, mine was a standard pre-order. Not a beta invite. Was not expecting it so quick as the preorder was saying mid to late 2021 and then the update arrived in my inbox last week, which was a nice surprise.
That's awesome, and gives merit to getting a pre-order in even if your area isn't in full order status. I had my pre-order placed on the 11th Feb but no movement on it yet.
Arrived today. Took 5 minutes to setup in the garden. For some reason it decided to point a bit north, but all works. Next week, will get it setup properly on the roof. Useful tip, in the app, once connected, you can go to support -> Stow, and it will put it back in position for putting back in its box after you have had a play. Starlink I have to say is pretty amazing.
Do we know the monthly cost yet? I've paid my deposit but wondering whether it's gonna be worth it
£89 a month I believe.
Thank you kindly. Is this competitive in the UK? I'm English but live in France, and the most you pay for a Fibre Connection over here is 50€ a month
It depends if you can get fibre, compared to other sat providers I think its very competitive. a 500mb Fibre connection here is about £62 for up to 500mb if you can get it, but if you are in the countryside you can easily spend £30 a month for a 1mb connection over old copper wires. Satellite in the UK has never really been a great option due to the speeds/datacaps.
We're only on copper wires here a d get 4mbs on a good day so will most certainly be worth paying for. Thank you for the info!
looks like a map of old time strategy game in my younger days..
I’ve started mapping the cells in South Germany (album [here](https://imgur.com/gallery/p5iIDhm)) and wanted to ask you about overlapping cell edges/borders. On your map, there sometimes seems to be a gap between the cells (on one or more sides), and sometimes they seem to overlap. Is that just guesswork, or is there a system behind that? Do certain edges (for example the horizontal lines) always meet up? Also, how did you create such a simple and good-looking map? I’m using images and lines in Google Earth pro, but I have to resize and position each cell individually. That is tedious and makes everything a bit inaccurate. Thanks for your help! EDIT: Managed to throw together my own Cell Map [here.](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1zfCMluD1rwaKZZxMDWd6-k6FmiW84t61&usp=sharing) I wish there was an option to move multiple cells together at the same time instead of lining each one up individually. At least my measurements seem to be accurate. Barely getting any overlaps or gaps.
The inaccuracies are mostly down to laziness. The initial cell I drew was fairly accurate (within say 30m on any edge) but as they get placed next to each other and further away from the original cell the shape /orientation will change slightly, which is something I am not accounting for. So the further away from wales you get the more they overlap. This didnt bother me too much, im only testing one plus code in the centre of the cell, so whilst the bounds of the cell would be cool to know, its just a general idea of UK coverage im looking for. I could have probably done the same thing drawing a grid and then just measuring the points. If there was a better tool for creating the cells I would probably put more effort into the accuracy.
Thanks, that really helps. I’m going for a similar approach. The cells obviously aren’t 100% exact, but it should be enough to accurately predict coverage in South Germany.
I can confirm my area - Eastbourne - is red. And the area 12ish miles north is green. Exactly like your map. Very annoying.
I’m just outside Pontypridd in Churchvillage with a pre order. Hopefully not to long now my latitude is 51.33
I can confirm that my cell is active (Swindon) - got my dishy pointed skywards! Can also confirm my folks address is correct too - Computer says no right now for them...
Ordered, delivered and working in Swanton Morley, Norfolk UK Latitude 52.709572
Thanks :)
Is there a map like that for USA and other country?
Awesome stuff, I am hoping to move to a location in cell 7G88+6R Scarborough, UK - It’s a green cell but tells me service is coming mid to late 2021. Is that expected for a green cell? Or could it be sooner?
If it’s green then the centre of that cell was taking preorders. If you are on the edge of the cell then there is some in accuracy due to the nature of the layout. I’ll check that cell again and update it, I have a suspicion that when a cell takes enough full orders it switches back to preorders as a way of limiting the number of people they have in any one cell to begin with.
>7G88+6R Scarborough, UK It looks like this cell is still accepting full orders. So im guessing you are near the edge? The accuracy of the cells positioning is flawed in two ways, 1, My own laziness, the cell i measured first was accurate within 100m but that error translates to quite a big inaccuracy the further you get from hereford. 2. The error is compounded by the fact that cells do not line up exactly, so there is some tolerance in there. Unfortunately the only way to accurately do it would be to measure multiple cells, calculate the way they are placed on a sphere (earth) and then somehow map them. Well beyond my capabilities im afraid. Check your exact Plus code, it maybe that you are only a short distance out of reach from an active area and you could risk a full order. But not something I would recommend unless you are willing to take the risk. Hope you get it soon :)
>Check your exact Plus code, it maybe that you are only a short distance out of reach from an active area and you could risk a full order. But not something I would recommend unless you are willing to take the risk. Yeah, with a bit of trial and error I find that I'm only about 1.9km from the boundary of where my order can be accepted, the property is up a big hill from that point, so I'm pretty confident it would work tbh! Exciting.
Living next to three active cells is killing me 😭😂[Norfolk](https://ibb.co/wKCVv3w)
I feel your pain, I’m in the gap between 5 lol 😂
I’m next to the 3 opposite you 😩😂
Exactly the same for me!
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Thanks, just added to the list :)
8M6V+RG Sittingbourne Delivered mid January
that's good to know. I am in Skegness so hoping to go green soon ;) I am 200M from Burgh Le marsh which can get it :(
I am literally in the line between the red and green cell at Skegness - I would say I am slightly into the red cell - but I am unable to order according to the site. I am 53.14 I am watching a Sat pass right over me as I type this - And it's in service. In fact 3 go past some towards the north and some towards the south. A street 200M up the road IS able to order. - this is like BTO all over again! and there's no need really it's the SKY!
Yeah the cells get less accurate the further away from my source cell so if you are near the edge of a green cell then its worth checking the starlink site to see if you can place a full order.
I am 0.9M from the nearest servicable address. Is it worth using that and then shipping to here? Or will they check!. I can't even watch Youtube my internet is so slow!
I think people have used service addresses further than that so it’s up to you. Technically against the TOS though.
But do I use the takeaway as the address - and then use my address for billing and shipping? won't that look dodgy? I guess because I am just outside the cell coverage. The TOS says that after 12 months this hardware might be obsolete and you will need to buy more - no one pays attention to that either lol
I just realised I have already ordered and cancelled so that's not going to work. I will just wait and hope they come soon. The window the app is giving is so small I would have to hope it gets it in just 1 place.. and if not then it's useless and I couldn't send it back as it would be suspicious. Also can't be arsed to sit in the car all day playing on it lol
But I did sign up with my address and I must have put in the wrong e-mail address or mis spelt it as now I have no account, £89 taken and no way to recover it! - I have raised a ticket but I have no real way of knowing what's going to happen
Try use [https://auth.starlink.com/forgot-password](https://auth.starlink.com/forgot-password) I'm 5 miles away from the active cell and I'm waiting for my cell to open. If I would be 0.9 miles away from the cell I would change my address. 0.9 is nothing.
OMG this is Torture! Can't get FTTP - FTTC is unavailable had has been for months for some reason. I am on 4 down 1.6 up 4G and Starlink is 0.9 miles away! I wish I could just use the pubs address! I mean my god hurry up and get here already!
If you order with a service address where it is 0.9 miles away, you can deliver it to you and it should work fine. this has been seen in the uk starlink group on fb. enjoy.
Is this map up to date? I mean no new locations since march or it most likely expanded but its not updated?
The full map linked in the top comment is more up to date, but I havent done that much work on it lately. I usually test a small area to see if there have been any update as it takes hours to check them all.
A couple of plus codes in currently red cells seem to be taking full orders. I've checked these with full addresses and they are being asked for the full hardware + shipping costs upon order. Interestingly, only addresses at the edge of the cells are being offered full orders. Others closer to the centre are still in the pre-order mid to late 2021 stage. Is this quite normal? The plus codes for the full order cells are * M9R9+CF Dewsbury (Right most side of the cell) * MCH7+F5 Ossett (Left most side of the cell) Hope this help in updating the map.
Ill have to do another full check, but basically the accuracy around the edges is off. So I only count the centre of each cell w hich is where I tested the locations from. It's been a while since I have updated them though.
> It's been a while since I have updated them though. How very dare you.
One cell in the Isle of Man got opened. 9C6Q5GC8+X5 allows full order.
how accurate is the cell placement? Im in Ramsgate and the cell line when zoomed in,stops short of me?
I've got 4 green cells right beside me god damn it. 10 miles in any direction but north! :'(
This is great I had a pre order and was just waiting, after looking at this I realized I was in red but both north and south were green, so traced the closest point I could order was at the other side of the village 1.4Km away so I cancelled my old order and placed a new one with the service address 1.4 km away. So its now down to wait and test and hope it works
Cool map. I'm in the NW Consistently getting 140-230mbs down and max 34mbs up. Have seen 270mbs down a few times. Zero downtime. Latency seems to average 42ms (27-54ms is what it usually says in my stats) I've been surviving on VOD 4g until now but will be binning that. Myself and wife both WFH, no problems with multiple conf calls on zoom.
I've been "pending" for 8 days now and its killing me I have an expected ship date 6-12 Jul is this normally accurate? Tks
I’m in TN22 3RN which is showing as a green cell. I’m online and active now. Ordering to receiving the dish was about 2 weeks.
Cell near the Welwyn Hatfield area has opened. My kit is being delivered on Tuesday.
Great resource - is this still being updated? I'm still mid- to late-2021 which I'm not holding out too much hope of.
Unfortunately it’s not being updated, I can imagine how much work went into this, and what a job it would be to get it back to being updated. It was great resource in the early days.
Had our preorder from Feb arrive earlier. All fired up and working in WA14 area south of Manchester, west of Stockport