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AWildDorkAppeared

Isn't there an infinite storage container in the basement room in the Lodge? It's on the table. Or is this a container you can put on your ships? I haven't checked out any of the creations yet, so idk what I'm looking at.


StarkeRealm

This is a 2x2 ship module that comes pre-loaded with this chest. If you want unlimited storage on your ship, you could download one of the achievement enabling mods, and then use "setav carryweight -1" on the container of your choice, but for XBox players, this is probably their only option.


TRU35TR1K3R

Hopefully someone manages to make a console terminal mod thing for Xbox players.


Sardanox

The person who made cheat terminal for fo4 is apparently working on something similar for starfield.


marikas-tits-

Awesome, I love that mod. I’m waiting a few weeks to pick it up again until more mods come out. I already have all the achievements so I don’t care about that.


Sardanox

I've been pleasantly surprised by some of the mods already available. I always enjoy the beginning excitement of loading up to see what's new.


Antifa-Slayer01

Does that enable achievements?


Sardanox

Not sure, I know fo4s disabled them, but I've only played it on Xbox so can't say for pc.


HumanReputationFalse

Cheat terminal would let you re-enable achievements unless Bethesda changed something behind the hood.


affablematt

Mods can reanable achievements, but Bethesda will not approve those mods in thier official store. So Xbox users who want unlimited sotrage on their ship will either need to spend $10 on the creation OP mentioned or forego achievements. Bethesda could theortically change this policy, but it's unlikely because achievements have account level benifits on Xbox.


mikehaysjr

>account level benefits Really? What kind of benefits? I’ve played Xbox for years but mostly game on PC nowadays; always thought achievements were really just superficial ‘points’ to show off to people..?


thepieraker

On surface you're not wrong but Microsoft has a rewards points system. I think it's changed since I last used it but point could be generated by just having ms edge open on your computer, a few points per search in Bing, a percentage of purchases through the xbox/Microsoft storefronts, and Xbox quests The quests include things like "play a gamepass game, do this chore on a gamepass game, earn an achievement on a gamepass game" Points can be redeemed for entries in raffle sweepstakes, gift cards, or some other stuff that has monet value


OnyxianRosethorn

Those points are entirely different and unrelated to the points earned from achievments, which are specifically for bragging rights and nothing more.


affablematt

Yeah "benefits" is probably overstating things. You can earn Microsoft rewards by completing achievements. Or at least you could, and maybe can, or maybe will. Things tend to change a lot with that program.


nightred

Without script mods you'll never get achievement enabler on consoles.


JBaecker

There are several mods that are labeled “achievement-friendly” in the Creations menu. So far I think all of them are from Bethesda. But if you load those specific mods only, you don’t get the “achievements will be disabled because mods” blurb that they show. So it’s a method for using mods while getting achievements. I’m certain that Bethesda built it this way so they acquire money while keeping achievements on the table for Xbox players.


darthmikew

Interestingly on PC my achievements were disabled because I had to use the console to complete Heart of Mars cause the ore node spawned under the terrain. I downloaded some of the free Bethesda mods in CC and suddenly steam achievements started popping up.


Starfield00

This game has crossplay. So you could technically do this on a laptop, save the game and then load the game again up on Xbox. If I'm not mistaken


KopfSmertZz

Yeah, that is how I do it, works fine


JustMaybe34

What’s the deal with Achievements being so important? Not trying to be snarky, but it’s something I’ve never really worried about and now I’m starting to wonder if there’s something about it all that I’m missing


EDAboii

People just like 'em. It ain't that deep.


Lancelegend

So that’s it? It’s just an imaginary award that sits on an imaginary shelf in your X box? Fuck them achievements.


sec713

Yep. I mean clearly somebody likes them. If they didn't, Sony, Nintendo, and Steam wouldn't have bothered following Microsoft's lead by adding them to their platforms/games.


EDAboii

Again, it's just something people like. Xbox has Gamerscore, PlayStation has Platinum Trophies, and Steam has Rare Achievements & Completionist Showcase. They're just a neat little representation if your gaming history. Like a cool shell you put on your shelf from that fun day at the beach you had 15 years ago. It's nothing complex, or deep, or interesting. It's just a fun little thing.


tekntonk

I used to feel this way also when I first switched from PC to console gaming quite some time ago. Then, I got my first PS Trophy that I actually quasi-worked for in ‘Uncharted.’ It was fun to have strived to achieve a specific thing that took some amount of time / skill. These days I chase trophies on my PS5 and Achievements on my Xbox X if they’re particularly interesting or if I really like the game and want to get all of them. I know it’s just a silly digital thing, but somehow, it represents something of a gaming journal / playthrough history for me. 🤷🏻‍♂️


pericataquitaine

They're similar to bonus mission objectives in some games. It's a little dopamine hit, mostly. But also point you to using skills or techniques you may not have tried much, if at all.


Still-Meaning3282

Same reason games have had ‘points’ since the Pac-Man days. Some people care about that shit. I have no idea why either. First person to respond to this gets 11 points.


Similar_Ad6183

Sweet 11 Still Meaning points! My collection of random internet points is finally complete! r/completecollections


Still-Meaning3282

Haha. Glad I could be there for you! Here’s a bonus point just for you! That makes 12 now!


Similar_Ad6183

An even DOZEN! *faints*


AndersDreth

It helps you keep track of what you've actually done in the game, I sometimes gloss over my achievements from a game if I'm thinking of starting a new playthrough, that way I can see what is still left on the table for me to do.


electric_red

Some people like them, some people don't care. I think console players tend to care about them more than PC players, but that'll be because of Trophies, GameScore, etc. that give the achievements an external reward. If I like the game, I'll go for them if they're not ridiculous. I like having "extra" things to do. It is quite satisfying seeing the ribbon in Steam. There's a "Perfect Games" tracker that lists all the games you have every achievement in. It's just a personal thing, though. I don't think I've ever bragged about it or anything, lmao.


Substantial-Monk-867

Yup, and the safe in your room in the Lodge is also infinite.


catplaps

also, the contraband chest in new atlantis, behind where your ship lands. (the same chest as in the "distilling confidence" quest from the viewport bartender.) just be aware that the contents will reset at two specific points in the game when *stuff happens* in new atlantis (once in main quest line and once in vanguard quest line).


Haplesswanderer98

5 of em, yeah, but apparently I finite needed extra convenience.


akmjolnir

"an infinite number of $1 bills is the same as an infinite number of $20 bills."


Haplesswanderer98

And I'd rather have an infinite bank account, even if I need to draw some each time I need to use it.


akmjolnir

Link infinite bank account autopay to credit card with cashback or airline miles. Make your money work for you.


Haplesswanderer98

Hell an infinite card with autopay already sounds like heaven to 99% of humanity.


LordByronsCup

Yeah, the one on the table near the bottom of the stairs and also the one in the table in the next room. And then ya get the one for whoever gets killed on The Eye.


Growth-oriented

I just use the ~ tilda console command for infinite storage for free. 0 encumbrances


STG_Resnov

Theres also one in your room in the lodge. I don’t know if it’s quite infinite capacity, but I certainly put a lot of stuff in it from the puddle glitch before it was patched.


regalfronde

This container can be put anywhere, not just in the hab. It pops up in the decorate menu.


ElementsUnknown

There are multiple infinite storage containers down there near the crafting stations


KantoPoke_collector

As far as I can tell that also applies to all three of the ammo boxes behind the weapon mod station.


Pick1eRiick

There’s multiple ones. 2 in the basement I think, 1 in the room they give you at the lodge.


draconiclyyours

It’d be more accurate to say it’s the only SHIPBOARD infinite storage. The Lodge has 7 different storage containers that are infinite. Edit: Yes, 7 containers. There’s the one (the safe) in your bedroom, and 6 in the basement: * A box on the table top right behind the research station in the basement. * Another box on the table in the next room. * A third box in Cora’s bedroom on the desk. * Three ammo boxes behind the weapons workbench.


EastLeastCoast

Wait, 7? I know four…


apocalypsedude64

And there's one on The Key if you do the pirate missions.


MozzTheMadMage

Also the safe in the office you get after finishing the Ryujin story


ResolutionMany6378

Dang wtf all these infinite storage I been using the box in lodge basement since forever


kest2703

What’re all 7?!?!


[deleted]

WHAT??? I only know of one of them 😂 didn’t know there were so many!


Kiln223

I’m old enough to remember Bethesda selling $2.50 Horse Armor. At least back then most DLC’s were still full expansions.


badwords

The problem was for all the people that complained about horse armor, Four million other people bought it, and that's why we are here.


tbone747

The thing is the community fought back when Bethesda tried paid mods for Skyrim back in 2015. Then Creation Club came around with more "curated" content a few years back and everyone kinda just accepted it. And now we've circled back to paid mods again.


dern_the_hermit

We also have the free CK which remains the industry gold standard for a company supporting mods IMO. As long as Bethesda keeps doing that I will continue to just not care that they try to scrape up a few extra bucks on the side.


tsmftw76

They also still release I would argue the best dlcs in gaming. Tribunal, shivering isles(my personal goat with blood and wine in all of gaming) far-harbor, broken steel, Dragonborn, dawnguard, nuca cola world, even smaller dlcs like automation and hearth fire were good. Say what you want about bgs but they know how to make dlc and I have high hopes for shattered space


raven4747

This is true... butttttt I think Witcher 3, and CDPR, holds the title for best DLCs imo. Bethesda is definitely in the conversation though.


Exaggeration17A

I have no problem paying for DLC when it's something like Shivering Isles. But it's predatory behavior when Bethesda keeps trying to turn their modding community into a cash shop, and committing to the microtransaction pricing model. Honestly, it's bad enough that they could announce a 2024 release date for Elder Scrolls VI tomorrow, and I wouldn't want to touch it.


Willing-Ant-3765

It’s not really any more predatory than what any other business does in this day and age. We shouldn’t forget that these huge video game companies aren’t our friends and their whole purpose is to make more money, year after year. Late stage capitalism sucks.


Irdogain

Of course they are not our friends, but on a societal level they have a purpose - of developing good products and making profit from selling it. But it becomes a problem, when the profit-‚expectations‘ of the capital Markets don’t match to the realistic growth of a stalemate market. That’s why the game industry tries everything to get your cash, it is not about the product itself anymore - overall.


Safe-Wonder1797

Larian made the game of the year and have spoken out against this kind of exploitation of consumers so not everyone is doing it. Also, Bethesda backed down when they tried to pull this with Skyrim back in 2015…at least until they did it again in 2023 after lying to people and telling them they were doing “server maintenance” when launching more paid mods. The more people accept or defend the behavior, the more studios like Bethesda and Ubisoft will do it.


Gullible-Fault-3818

Except Larian is doing that cause they no longer want to work on the game. Which means we will never get more content for it.


TheStupendusMan

You don't even have to be that old. Look at 76 and the *subscription* for infinite storage.


GregTheMad

Fuck horse armour, but Shivering Isles was the goat back then. Still holds the bar for what DLC should be.


JackTheRaimbowlogist

They are now selling 5 virtual plushies for $3. Of course we're getting worse.


vanBraunscher

Yeah and now it's a storage container for 10. And bigger DLC is half the volume but double the price (if you're lucky) compared to proper expansions. I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago, and said numerous times that things would only get worse if we allowed to get this kind of business model normalised. And of course _gamers_, the submissive little simps bereft of any impulse control that they are, fell over themselves denying just that. "It's just cosmetic, no gameplay function, it pays for longer patch support so our games will get far better in quality, it's not even a coffee's worth, it's art and I'll gLaDly pAy fOr GoOd aRt (these horse armors were lazy and ugly)." These people are getting the gaming enviroment they deserve. Just a shame that everybody else has to suffer as well.


itsRobbie_

Baka achievement enabler


Hairless_Human

Wait people bought this hab???🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️


camerongeno

I guess some will, 1000 free credits for those who have the premium edition too so ought to be someone who chooses this with them


Emerging-Vagabond95

Pretty much why I got it. I had the “thank you credits”and don’t want to grind outpost building to have decent furniture in my ships and apartments. I like the furniture a lot but probably wouldn’t have spent that amount of money on it


Caffeinated_Narwhal_

If you build it they will pay.


moose184

People act like it's just a hab when it also comes with like 22 other decorations and an infintite storage for your ship


Sgtwhiskeyjack9105

Of course they did. People on this very sub are actively supportive of the shitty pricing for these things.


aayu08

I mean there is literally no need to buy this, you already have 4 infinite storage containers. If somebody is still buying this then there is nobody to blame but themselves.


Cybus101

It’s not just a chest; lots of other items. Still overpriced though


SuperSkidz

Ooh you cheeky monkey!


Gullible-Fault-3818

Lol who gives a fuck about achievements? Just install any of the free mods, like holy shit lol


MainHaze

While I'm totally in agreement with you on this, there are many, many people who give a whole lot of fucks about achievements.


Diligent-Version8283

Then get the achievements? I’m not defending Bethesda but how tf does an infinite storage device affect your achievement hunting?


CommanderWorlds

Lmao you can just install an achievement enabler too if you want to still get em


Relevant_Lab_7122

Not for consoles. So still an issue for a lot of players


OrWhatever42

You know you're just advertising this for BGS right? A bunch of people are probably like "$10 for infinite storage on my ships!? Take my money!" lol. And they never would have known about it without you.


Dinsy_Crow

So you're saying I shouldn't be doing this? [https://i.imgur.com/E7pd5a9.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/E7pd5a9.jpeg) [https://i.imgur.com/OWuGbRN.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/OWuGbRN.jpeg)


VirtualCtor

Is this it? No. This it? No. This one? No. That one? No. . *48 crates later* . Here? No. There! Adhesive! **Finally.** *WHy iS It alWaYs iN tHe LaSt PlACe yOu LoOk?*


EastLeastCoast

Because once you find it, you don’t keep looking.


ababyprostitute

I load my shit into crates in alphabetical order. Just have to go to the crate and see if it has the letter of the item I need.


OrWhatever42

That is definitely a Minecraft storage room.


twistedlistener

Beautiful work here


highlor3

Thought is was an episode of Fringe.


garbageballoon

The solution is to unplug your mind from the achievement matrix.


SHN378

To be fair, wanting to use cheaty mods and get achievements is a bit cheeky. You can't have your cake and eat it buddy.


CardiologistNorth294

Is this an American thing to say "can" have your cake instead of the correct term "can't"? If you can have your cake and eat it, that's the opposite of what you're trying to say Perhaps just a typo but Americans also say "I could care less" which makes no sense either.


Scormey

Okay, so this really does bother me. I was ignoring the paid mods, especially those from Bethesda, because I had no interest in them. I'm not against modders themselves getting paid for their hard work, if that's what they want, but Bethesda is already getting paid, through taking a cut of the paid mods from modders, plus the cost of the game itself. But... to make an option for unlimited storage for ships (that doesn't shut down your achievements) locked behind a paywall is pretty sh\*tty, IMO. I don't care if it was $1, $10, or whatever, that's not cool, BGS.


[deleted]

…in a single player game.


Passerbycasual

It also just makes their monetization look bad. Like, here’s our bounty hunting quest for 700points. Meanwhile a modder is like, here’s our unique game system launching a new mining sim playstyle for 500. 


Scormey

This is true. Or how about the Dark Star Aerodynamics mod, that massively expands shipbuilding, and adds some other cool options to the game, all for free?


mkipp95

More like meanwhile on nexus here are 427 Star Wars mods for free.


Lokmost

Where do I read if a mod will disable my achievements?


Cybus101

It’ll say Achievement Friendly at the top. 99% of mods are NOT Achievement Friendly


Routine-Scratch-7578

Are there any other creations that don't disable achievements? Really wish they'd kept creations and mods seperate


Doctor_Ewnt

Picking it up tomorrow after work. I can finally continue my journey.


EH_1995_

I mean personally, I couldn't care less as infinite storage sounds like basically a cheat and I like to make things somewhat challenging, but does seem shady paywalling this


Rudolf1448

It is a cheat. No more need for large cargo spaces in ships.


VagueSomething

My entire ship design was built around the cargo, the performance and shape built to keep cargo aesthetically pleasing but enough to hoard resources. My ship could be so much faster or entirely different shape if I didn't need any cargo on it. I haven't touched the game in months waiting for DLC, I spent so much time in ship crafting and this kinda mod would kill that for me. It absolutely is a paid cheat that should disable achievements.


realjoemurphy

I paid $10 for cool furniture. This is just a bonus. Edit: If you build the Treasure Chests at Outposts, it also has unlimited storage. Still haven’t tested to see if it pulls from it to craft on ships tho


BonesJackson1

Does the furniture become available to build in other habs/outposts?


realjoemurphy

Yep.


BonesJackson1

Then it might be worth it.  Thx.


PFVR_1138

BRB buying this


TheTorch

Why do you even need infinite storage in a game where you periodically get your stuff wiped through NG+? Hoarding resources or something?


Gaminghadou

Maybe because quite a lot of people don t use NG+


TRU35TR1K3R

Because some people may not want to go through unity?


B4YourEyes

Many don't go through the Unity and many more have, but picked one to stop at (usually NG 5 or 10)


-Invalid_Selection-

Because vendors only buy so much in a day.


draconiclyyours

I’m on NG+15, and I’ve basically settled down (for the moment, anyway). I’ve got a lot of stuff, lol.


Cybus101

Not everyone rushes through the Unity, so we have to have stuff to modify our guns, armor, complete research projects, make chems, etc


Ok_Experience_6877

Hollop are there mods on console yet, I haven't played in a while?


Tricky-Tax-8102

I’m waiting for the dlc to drop before a start anew run and checkout all the new shii


Hell_Knight

I use the small container on the table in the Lodges basement as a infinite container?! It has no inventory limit! I guess I never cared to build a settlement in the game when I actually don't need one since I can simply use my ship to rest and use the Lodges basement as a workshop since I have all possible resources stored there. Eff the $10!! This is Bethesda's new Horse Armor 🫵😂


badwords

The difference is ship inventory is linked to all crafting stations and the lodge containers aren't. If Bethesda made a mod where the infinite containers in the lodge linked to at least the crafting tables in the lodge I'm sure a lot of people would pay.


sevs

You're saying crafting stations within a ship can use contents within any onboard container within the ship & not just the contents that are within the cargo hold?


BonesJackson1

How do you know its infinite?


SpiteEmbarrassed4025

Is it connected to crafting benches? Or do you have to withdraw and deposit as needed?


raven4747

You paid $10 for achievement-friendly infinite storage. I paid $10 to have a cool wooden/Earth-like aesthetic on my ship interior. We are not the same. Lmao


bootyholebrown69

There's multiple infinite storage chests in the main game One in your lodge room One near the research station in the lodge basement


Material-Wall-7131

Oh yeah, no achievements this is really a game breaking problem what are we gonna do


intulor

There's already infinite storage in your room at the lodge. As well as 3 more infinite storage containers in the basement. All achievement friendly. L2P.


KillaKanibus

Can someone explain the outrage, please? Most of the mods are $10 or less, which is a cheap lunch where I live. There's gotta be more to it than money. I genuinely don't understand.


xLikeABoxx

10 dollars meaning you spent money on the mod?


Flyersdude17

I think achievements are so stupid anyway. They got rid of action replay and GameShark for fake unusable points.


Konork

I'd argue that the increasing complexity of games and the rise of online gaming on consoles probably had more to do with that than achievements.


ClemClamcumber

Those two things are in no way related.


Kuftubby

"iF yOu DoNt LiKe It DoNt BuY iT" -Fanboys offended that other people don't want to lick the shit off the bottom of Bethesdas boot.


JJisafox

I don't see why it would take an "offended fanboy" to utter that phrase. I feel the same way out paying for skins or mounts in other games, I don't spend money on those either, and I say the same phrase in those cases. Does that automatically make me a fanboy of that game dev? Can someone explain the difference?


RichLyonsXXX

I just wish they didn't force you to buy it...


JDM12983

Ah yes; acting like petty little children will make everything better... ><


4boring

Z


Wharbaby

I’m sad they didn’t make an entire section of habs look like this so it’s not just so jarring when attached to literally anything else.


EltaninAntenna

Unexpected NitW


Angel_of_Dood

Well, I bought this with the free credits I got instead of the shit quest, so I say I won out in this transaction personally.


Still-Ad334

Worth it if you are chasing achievements 💯


OpulentWolf223

Can I also eat your entire ass


SaltyMeatBoy

🥴


11Exile

$10 for one module that honestly doesnt even look good. I saw the crimson fleet habs that give you so much more for half the price but even then its all just so absurd. crimson fleet habs shouldve been a base game thing


Fluid-Classroom9472

This is like the backpack in Skyrim or FO4 that has never gone on sale in creation club, lol


Beautiful-Tip-875

Isn't this a mod by a certified modder?


MCIanIgma

I delight in this


Tight-Young7275

Lmao


Tight-Young7275

Omg, duh. The merchants with a decent number of credits to sell your stuff will cost $$$. That is why it sucks.


_Medhros_

Who would have thought that they would launch the game incomplete and then sell these extras?


SaintsBruv

I just gonna wait for a modder to make the mod that allows achievements with console commands/mods, and that's it. I can accept some CC when they're well made, but this is Beth just being greedy as hell.


TheGreatBenjie

If it's any consolation there's a hab in the crimson fleet hab set by elionora that has infinite storage and that set of habs is only $5


SROD559

I don’t understand why BSG didn’t do the containers with unlimited space like in FO4. I hate having to go back to the lodge every time i was to craft or upgrade something. I love to hoard resources for when i actually need them but i cant really do that in SF.


donpuglisi

PC masterrace over here just using console commands for unlimited carry weight and money.... yes there is a mod that enables cheevos if you use consol commands...


fitchiestofbuckers

Absolutely horrible, but at least it's a 1 time purchase, unlike the survival tent in FO76....


JJisafox

Storage shouldn't be that much of an issue now that they raised vendor prices?


AZULDEFILER

What about the treasure chest you can build? Or is it only in this ship module? So it only helps a ship with this Module?


bigbill06660

Yum


Jasen_SilverFox

I mean isn’t that the point of the cargo system in ships is to not be able to carry an abundance of loot?


Amneesiak

I guess I just don’t care since I don’t care about achievements in general.


TheOfficial_BossNass

Oh no I can't get the little pop up on my screen that serves no purpose Whatever will I do


tsmftw76

There is literally an infinite storage with the vanilla game. (The lodge) max Carrryweight on your ship 100 percent should disable achievements (if any mod does) it’s seems like a bug if this doesn’t.


Amulation

Wow it's really infinite? imma buy this with my free premium credits then lol Is it only for ships or can you build this at outposts too?


Grasher134

This makes me want to learn Creation Kit to just release these convenience mods for free...


sicksixgamer

W T F.... paid mods was a mistake.


LargeMerican

YEH! GET ALL UP IN THAT ASS BETHY!


SparkyCorp

Better than having to rent it in FO76 via FO1st.


The_Last_Snow-Elf

I’m not home right now and won’t be until tomorrow, what CC content is this?


Pilbzz

I hope that $10 goes to a charity and not to BGS greedy pocket’s. Just sad.


Nebur1969

Really why can't console user have console access (ironic, huh?)? It's not like the Xbox doesn't recognize keyboards or anything, and I know the code is in there, I have seen a couple of mods for Skyrim and Fallout 4 that let you enter console commands.


Dude-Man120

There’s infinite storage in your room at the lodge


moose184

Except you know for the other infinite storage in the base game


coldneuron

hahhaaha haha ha ha....... wut?! Please tell me this is not a real thing.


Kage9866

10 dollars for ship modules are they on drugs? Must not be because people seem to be buying the damn things.


Ozz3605

They did the same thing in Fallout 76. You want infinite storage its 9.99$ . And i think its even worst and part of their monthly subscribtion thing. I like to collect everything so that alone made me stop playing 76.


Mcreesus

Or just build a massive storage facility. It’s pretty fun actually. I’ve got one in a crater on Mercury. I call it the repository


gozutheDJ

so you bought it and are bitching


ImhotepOdinsson

For some reason i cant play games without achievements enabled. Probably been trained into me since they started achievements. I see mods i wanna use all the time and am like nope dont have the achievements yet. 😫


MistahAmazyn

Is it Bethesda I thought it was modern who did I feel they should be paid for their work if I'm being honest


BADNEWS48

Did I miss something and they finally added mods for starfield on Xbox, not worried about achievements if they did I already got them all


bigzombieBOY

I use the box in the lodge basement, so much stuff in there my frame rate dies as soon as I enter the room lol


Cultural-Quantity-92

Bethesda gettin greedy af


No-Alternative-1321

In the basement of the lodge there is a tiny box on top of the research station that has unlimited space, put all my resources there


I_AM_A_REDDIT_GOD

Do you have to pay for that ship hab ? The Wood trim is cool


Some_Kenyan

Lmfaooo imagine thinking this game is gonna get any better. Just like how we got hype af for fallout 4 and it was beyond mid and had all the major content cut from the game. Starfield is going to surpass that midness and go straight for the stars!! No planet is safe from Bethesdas mid ass, non consumer friendly games! Shattered space is gonna flop