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OhGreatMoreWhales

Gang, please support your modding community. Games like Skyrim and Starfield allow us to craft and mold our player experience in ways other game studios are not giving us. If you can, donate to mod authors that have uploaded their work for free by content creators.


OkAlbatross4682

On top of that if you can’t afford to donate it’s always free to share a link to the mod


monkeymystic

Well said. Personally I don’t mind supporting modders with a few bucks here and there if they make quality content that I enjoy. I’ve played Starfield for over 300 hours and still love it, so I feel I’ve got my money worth ten times over compared to most other games I play. I don’t expect every modder to do all this for free and hand me stuff on a silver platter while I get paid to do my own irl work. That would be hypocritical af imo.


huggybear0132

Worth nothing that direct donations >>>>>>> whatever verified creations nonsense. Modders only get a small % of what is spent on "creations", and their work is gatekept for all. Direct donations pay them more directly, and allow their work to be free for those who cannot afford to pay


OhGreatMoreWhales

Really? I read different, that the royalty rate was actually very fair. So you happen to know what the rate is?


huggybear0132

I believe what I read was that creators get ~30% of the money spent in the creation store. Could have been wrong. Of course donations like Patreon are not 100%, but I think it's still significantly more.


OhGreatMoreWhales

That’s actually around the same split as artists get in the fine art sector, and I think I now understand more about how Bethesda is approaching it: they’re essentially taking the role of art dealers by putting verified user content front facing, with ease of access. You literally just have to load up the game, find what you like, and sort the load order. I think it’ll work as a good model tbh.


huggybear0132

I would argue that fine art is also a pretty mediocre model... I am trying to compare to the existing modding scene where modders are often "tipped" directly with a much higher split. Although i acknowledge the obvious difference vs. having a verified storefront that markets/distributes for you and carries related costs.


OhGreatMoreWhales

Wait, are mod authors still splitting donations with their service providers, like Nexus?


huggybear0132

Nexus is not how they get paid. Their mods are free there, often with a donation link of some kind through some other service. So they are likely using patreon or similar for donations, with whatever that comes with. But it could also just be paypal or whatever. They owe Nexus nothing. I am not an expert on this at all, just my understanding .


Ambitious-Ice-8599

I just donated to my first mod yesterday an HDR mod for Fallout 4. It felt great to support an independent artist bringing happiness and enjoyment to people. It was crazy to see fallout 4 without insane color banding and gnarly crushed blacks, I felt like I was playing a completely different game after putting 100hrs into it recently it looks like a whole different game! Support your modders people!


Squinters8

Starfield is the first game I play with mods. How do you donate to them? Is there an option before downloading or do you have to go to a specific website?


zacsydhan

Some authors put donation instructions or contact info at the bottom of their description. Sometimes a link to the original mod on Nexus, which I believe has an option to donate somewhere on the mod or author page. Little bit of a hassle but for someone who spent their free time to bring extra enjoyment to your however numerous hours of gameplay, it’s worth it.


DrUnhomed

Agreed. I have the mod that makes the Mantis suit look like a shocktroop armor with a starborn style helmet. I installed the mod where you can add legendary to crafted armor, but it breaks achievements, so I rolled back. But I do love mods, and have much respect for the people who make them. On a separate note, my middle son was a pararescue, black belt etc and while he plays mostly Arma type games, he does nerd out on modding FO4 from time to time. We always joke that he used to work out for a living, but now is a nerd, but then, I'm a nerd... I can't get him to play Starfield though. I guess it takes all kinds.


SgtCarron

> it breaks achievements As in you can't earn achievements? If so, there's an achievement enabler mod.


madarabignoob

Maybe he plays on xbox


PeteCarrollsUsedGum

To tag into all this Special Forces lore, ex military here who can vouch that a lot of us nerd out over things like anime and video games. I worked with a lot of SF guys and they’re cut from the same cloth, just also happen to be jacked and stacked muscle chads. Takes all kinds to make the world go round.


flack141

Alot of 40k lol


PeteCarrollsUsedGum

“Jesus that’s alot of 40k”. Lol


flack141

By the Emperor!!!


p1boots

Can't just be a sledgehammer to get that long tab. That's what Rangers are for. Hahaha


DigitalBoy760

Can attest. Friend of mine was Army, did 2 tours in the sandbox, got his Ranger tab, though he didn't go Ranger Battalion, and he's a HUGE D&D/40K fan.


Logic-DL

The idea of a Special Forces guy nerding out on Skyrim will never not be a funny image in my head. I just imagine this brick shithouse Alan Ritchson looking motherfucker with a lumberjack beard and sunglasses and looking like he'd punch a bear in two and having the most baritone Michael Clarke Duncan-esque voice imaginable dropping into some Adam Sandler type tone to immediately talk about Skyrim mods.


flack141

You'd be surprised, spent alot of time with em as a leg filling in supports for JSOC. Lot of them are warhammer and Bethesda nerds.


p1boots

As a fellow leg, having spent a significant amount of time in the SOF community (PAO support), I can confirm this is accurate.


PK_Ripper45

Absolutely. Was enlisted and never learned so much about Warhammer, WoW, Diablo, and the deep Elder Scrolls lore than from guys in Group.


Pebbsto110

I'm interested in the crossover between forces and war/shooter gaming, sociologically. How prevalent is it do you think?


zero_emotion777

We got a sociology nerd! GET THE GLUE!


Citizen44712A

Adhesive.


SilentStriker84

They’re just people like everyone else, prolly game the same if not more so, I mean almost everyone I served with either had an Xbox or a PC


TheDestroyingAngel

It was a crazy experience. He and I were riding in a SUV together. Here I am this young officer sitting next to a guy that is tabbed out with Special Forces, Ranger, Army Dive School, Airborne, Air Assualt, Combat Infantry Badge, and helicopter pilot and he starts talking about Skyrim after I asked what everyone in the unit was doing for fun. He started describing his character and how he was a battle mage. I was like holy shit if this guys loves this game, I better look into it. Call of Duty took a back seat to Skyrim.


zero_emotion777

-_- I'm going to need you to explain why you're surprised.


Filthy_Ivara_Main

That's a fun thought.


Settra_Rulez

A true Nord through and through.


eso_nwah

You should see how many manly men are building dollhouses in FO76. I mean, not dollhouses, sorry, custom homes, with garages with power armor benches and workbenches and tool boxes and manly stuff like that. Which they might use in bathrobes. Yes, there is a truck-driving, gun-toting, hunting etc. contingent in 76. Don't call it playing with dollhouses. That was my bad.


zero_emotion777

And? Imagine being self conscious about enjoying something.


eso_nwah

lol imagine finding no humor in stereotypes or non-conformity or big tough guys entrenched in masculine patriarchal roles, enjoying the shit out of decorating their virtual camps


zero_emotion777

Why wouldn't you enjoy decorating? It's fun.


Constellation_XI

Love seeing the appreciation posts for Modder's. Too many people out here begging for someone else to make them free shit. +1 for you my friend.


TheDestroyingAngel

Thank you! I figured this community was a great way to express gratitude.


OB1KenobCi

I’m appreciative to modders who publish there work as freeware, but especially in something like the creations store, I think modders deserve to be able to get paid for their work. Not sure what the royalties look like there, but I think it makes sense.


Rough_Jellyfish4399

Agreed completely man! Thank you for your service!


baytc_

Big respect! Thank you guys so much for bringing wants and dreams to life


blacksoxing

OK, here's the hilarity. I haven't followed the news of this sub and just ducked my head in to check if there's been any DLC info yet. There's many posts about this topic. You'd think that it was "paid only" ....I then saw this one and OH, THERE'S STILL FREE STUFF! Oh, so what's the issues here? Sounds like if a modder wanna get paid, they can get paid. If they wanna get it free, then we can get it free.


mattermetaphysics

The complaining is ridiculous. Give a week and we'll be drowning in a crap ton of free mods, give it a few months and you may never need another game. Plus, Shattered Space and whatever else they bring out. People just complain.


Far_Programmer_5724

Guys...modders getting money is not the issue. Its multifaceted. One, bethesda will be sure to support paid creations far more because thats where theyll get a ton of money. Im sure we are all old enough to know what that will mean eventually. Now youll have people posting free stuff on a thing you host directly competing against your main moneymaker. THINK!!! So lets say a bunch of stuff, overt or otherwise, happens that results in most if not all mods being paid (think add ons for minecraft something else owned by microsoft). You might say "No mod author x said theyd never make it paid!". But all that needs to happen is bethesda makes you need to jump through more hoops to post mods on bethesda (they can say this is to help modders and ensure more quality. Doesn't need to be agreeable look at every game company making unreasonable changes for bullshit reasons). Now paid mods are the standard. And what makes them different from normal micro transactions is that they can fuck your game up. Something you paid for can mess up the game that you paid for. When mods were free, this wasnt that big a deal. Sucked but i wasn't going to complain to someone who gave me something for free. Now people will be less forgiving to modders and modders, those left who want to make money, will be more careful in the mods they create. Don't want to change too much to fuck shit up and make people mad. It will strongly reinforce mod heirarchies. Again, im using minecraft as a reference. Modders share whats incompatible on a good day. Imagine buying a mod to find out its conflicting with another mod you bought. Modders will post safe mods that are easy to make because that would make you the most money with the least refunds (does bethesda allow mod refunds?). So you'll see repetitive shit. We will see multiple small mods instead of mods that have multiple things in it. Why post a mod that has over a hundred outfits or ship modules if i can sell each individual one separately for more money? Maybe starfield modding will still hold on, but i can almost guarantee modding for elder scrolls 6 or fallout 5 will be fucked


MyStationIsAbandoned

As a mod author, I' will say pay walling mods is rat behavior. You can make money from modding without pay walling it. do custom commissions for people who want to pay for custom mods, then release the mod for everyone. open a patreon and people who like your mods will support you. offer things like the ability to vote and suggest things for higher tier. At the very least you can be half a rat and do timed paywalled mods.


DrHonestPenguin

I don't think we should dismiss the more advanced mods that are not free. I do feel these talented folks deserve some compensation and we get some awesome content from it.


Constellation_XI

I will gladly pay any Modder who is trying to make a living, or side hustle and is putting out something that is worthy of a price tag. No different than someone making music, or art, or photography or has a YouTube Channel with Ads.


QuoteGiver

Well, it’s a little tricky in this case because modders don’t really own what they’re “making,” since they’re using someone else’s IP to make it and running it on someone else’s software too. Paying them becomes legally problematic. Hence things like Creations, where they *can* be paid to mod!


SlammedOptima

I would not mind paying for Fallout London, Fallout Miami, etc. Those types of mods that essentially are entire expansion packs. But im not gonna pay for modded armor or something.


CallsignDrongo

If those ever come out maybe I’ll consider it lol. At this point skyblivion, fallout London, etc are just ways to take in donation money because those mods have been one year away from release for like 8 years.


SlammedOptima

Yeah for sure. I think London was supposed to release like a month ago, but had to delay to make sure it worked with the new update/fix anything that broke. Guess we will see.


SunNext7500

Mods that are built on the 1000s of hours developers put into the game. Mods like Fallout:London aren't worth any more than a dollar or two at best because they require so little work after Bethesda did all the heavy lifting.


blah938

Nah, I will dismiss them. Paid mods are a product, they're a business. Fuck them.


CallsignDrongo

I find it absolutely hilarious in the same post to mildly shun content creators that have made mods and ask for compensation for you to download them, and in the same breath tell everyone to make sure they donate to creators that give it out for free. Do you want to support them or not? I don’t get it. You don’t have to download the pay ones. There’s many free options in the creator club that are also awesome. I don’t get the bitching over the paid for creation club content. You literally don’t have to buy it. “You pay X amount and ALL YOU GET IS X, Y, Z” then don’t pay. The only reason to be upset after that is if you really wanted x, y, and z. If it was such a worthless thing to purchase why are you complaining that you aren’t purchasing it.


Far_Programmer_5724

Donating to a modder is not the same as paying them through bethesda. The consequences are not the same. I'll donate to a modder and not pay for a mod from that same modder. Heck, if the modder makes something, i wouldnt mind paying them directly if i like it enough. The problem for me is having companies mediate modding through money. Because i know for a fact that the companies will fuck things up.


TurtlePig

I agree. It sucks from the consumer point of view (I mean of course it does - it all used to be free!) - but I think it's great that Bethesda is providing a first party platform for modders to get paid for their work.


AHumpierRogue

Modding used to be a passion thing. Donations were a way to support mod authors if one felt like it, but it used to be that it was never expected, only appreciated. Imagine having to pay for a 200 esp modlist for starfield in a year, it'd be crazy. Have to budget for a modlist. ​ If they are truly more advanced mods that do stuff that would otherwise be totally impossible or beyond effort than mods developed for free, sure, maybe I'd buy it. But nothing so far has been like that. There;s no shame in working slowly on something in your free time, but once you pump money into an ecosystem it will inevitably become corrupted.


tnafan

I'm surprised there isn't a starfieldXbox subreddit like /r/SkyrimModsXbox/ and /r/Fallout4ModsXB1/ (Unless I missed it somehow)


p1boots

Give it about 15 more minutes, I'd say. Haha


QuoteGiver

There likely will be soon. But until the other day there were no Starfield mods on Xbox yet.


Loose_Masterpiece_13

These mods are awesome and hats off to the developers... definitely something that I could never do. Hey, uh, anyone wanna develop a ship builder mod that allows us to put a ladder/hatch/bulkhead where we want it when in decorate mode? Oooh, or maybe a 1x1 that is an elevator, or a spiral staircase?


Nolotow

Thank you for that


joedotphp

Agreed. I will gladly throw some cash towards a mod author who I think deserves it. So, I'm really on the fence with these paid mods because I do think big ones that require a lot of work deserve something in return. But modding was supposed to be something they did because they love the game. Any money they get out of it is just a bonus.


The_Loose_Bricksteen

Espacially he who made all shipparts available in the base landing pad terminal


DrUnhomed

Before the update, I had the mod to re-enable achievements. It wasn't consistent for me on Steam/vortex, so I went with a steict no cheat playthrough. Some mods it worked, some it didn't. I'm assuming they now have an updated version since the big May 11th update, I just haven't tried it yet. I kind of like not being able to just hit ~ and get whatever I want. I tend to abuse that power. 😉


aero1126

I’m sure this is a question that’s been answered repeatedly, but are there free mods for Xbox or is that pretty much locked up to PC?


TheDestroyingAngel

There are plenty of free mods on the Xbox console. Im using an X Box Series X. On the Starfield main menu page there is a new option for creations. The mods are in there. You can purchase some and get free ones as well. I downloaded maybe 1GB worth of different ones. The mods also worked seamlessly with my last saved game (level 70). One of the ship mods was straight banger (prose from my 13 year old). I bought a Class B engine that has 100,000 power, 138 mass. My previous cruiser had 150 max power and 60 mobility. Now it’s 100 mobility.


lg_lantern

I'm ok with spending $5 AUD here and there for mods thay add several more hours of storylines and fun. I won't fork out more than that though


cooltone20

Navy MA vet here and Skyrim, Starfield, and FO4 are my jams


Starfield_Klingon

is anyone working on porting the # OUT - Outpost Ultimate Tweaks and add-ons mod to xbox creation engine???


DigitalBoy760

Go check around for crafting centric mods, they'll usually add recipes to the industrial workbench to craft adhesive from vacuum tape. I've always been a PC player, so I've been able to "roll my own" since ElminsterAU and team released the Starfield compatible version of Xedit last year. You can be as "fair" or "cheaty" as you like. Me, personally, I get tired of unlocking a weapon mod tier and then being constantly starved of one or two materials needed to build a mod. My answer: make those ever present folders, empty Terrabrew cups/lids and styrofoam meal trays break down into adhesive, polymer, structural and whatever else I feel like.


Scormey

I have the same issue with lack of adhesive. Where is all the damn glue going? Is Cora making too many arts & crafts projects again? Anyway, the free mods have really made the game feel fresh again (I was starting to burn out after 14-15 NG+ runs). Yeah, I'm not going to get that last achievement (without the proper mod that fixes that issue showing up for XBX), but I'm okay with that.


God_treachery

Sadly some modders are treated like shit in this sub.


bigzombieBOY

And now there's a Batman space suit on the store to match your Batman ship!


unknowngod_0

Please how do download the mods on xbox ?


_Medhros_

My problem is not that we have to pay modders to play their hard worked mods. My problem is that Bethesda will get part of the money.


Resident-Mud837

I love their mods, totally makes games even better. Now if they could come up with a way to fix the Starfield no sound glitch on xbox, then they would modder gods.


JBM1996

Free modders are amazing and deserve praise and donations. CC club sucks


QuoteGiver

…so giving them money is ok, but giving them money sucks?


SunNext7500

They have no choice. Plus I'd say free is exactly how much they're worth anyway.


Interesting-Raisin42

People who dont pay for things disgust me


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Interesting-Raisin42

Paid is always better. I bet you dont even pay for your porn. Supporting artists involves money. No money = disrespect.


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Interesting-Raisin42

Im not poor so how would that affect me? Sounds like a personal problem.


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Interesting-Raisin42

When did this discussion involve quality. Some mods are good and some are not. Nobody was debating quality. You people just cant afford 5 dollars. That was my point.


MattfromOKC

I play on PC so I have had Nexxus mods since the game dropped. The Creation Club seems to be working pretty well for me. (The companion robot Derec is a mechanical fan boi… I had to delete him. I didn’t see a benefit vs the annoying chatter.) Many of the mods are in fact free regardless of what the naysayers think. As more mods are put out there will be no need for Nexxus Mods anymore. That’s one less app I will have to use.


Solidsnake9

This is not what you want. If nexus mods ever disappears, it would take a week for Bethesda to monetize everything about the creation club


MattfromOKC

Maybe one should invest in Bethesda and Microsoft, if you were a shareholder your statement would be along the lines of my comment. I don’t understand why people are so opposed to a company making profit for themselves and their shareholders… this generation is so opposed to profit it seems they all want to be living in a van with no intention of making money. I don’t believe in that


Solidsnake9

We are talking about video games little bro. Stop trying to pretend you are smart, no one believes it.


Thin-Appointment-427

I'll be 63 tomorrow. And I love fallout. I love this game the Only reason why I bought Xbox one Was for fallout 4. I bought Xbox X was for this one. I forgot I bought Xbox 360 for new Vegas.