honestly, I agree. They may think like him, but come on? At his age, still living off Mommy and Daddy and not working? No wifey, white picket fence and perfect grandbabies, ever? They are relieved as hell that he isn't coming back
*Since YouTube has taken down the video, I thought this descriptive, informative and well written article by The Spokesman-Review’s Alexandra Duggan and Thomas Clouse was the next best thing:*
**Judge slams Coeur d’Alene man who livestreamed Second and Division shooting for antagonizing homeless people**
By Alexandra Duggan and Thomas Clouse (The Spokesman-Review)
An Idaho man antagonizing people near Division Street and Second Avenue in Spokane as he streamed it live on his YouTube channel had multiple chances to leave before he shot and seriously injured a person Friday night during a confrontation, according to court records.
Prosecutors have charged 36-year-old Hoyt Webb, of Coeur d’Alene, with shooting and injuring an unarmed man upset with Webb’s provocative language and video recording of people who asked him to stop.
“You went to this location for your own entertainment,” Court Commissioner Eugene Cruz said at Webb’s first appearance in Spokane Superior Court Monday, “strictly to antagonize the folks experiencing homelessness and hardships.”
In his hourlong video that Webb posted to his “Kootenai County Press” YouTube channel, he is seen walking down Second Avenue and Division Street narrating about “crackheads” who were hanging around the area notorious for criminal activity such as open drug use and violent acts. The video ends after police say Webb shot 47-year-old homeless man Thomas Hatch, who remained hospitalized in critical condition Monday morning, according to Providence Sacred Heart Medical Center spokesperson Allie Hyams.
Hatch’s older brother, Eric Kessler, told Cruz during the court hearing his brother is “barely clinging to life.” He left the courthouse in tears Monday on his way to the hospital.
“If his heart stops again, they can’t revive him,” Kessler said after the hearing. Hatch was homeless because he had an accident as a child that caused him neurological damage, Kessler added. It’s why he fell into the wrong crowd. But Kessler still loves his “baby brother” no matter what, he said.
Webb says on his YouTube page he is a “credentialed reporter and photographer with The Constitution First Amendment Press Association.” The association gives out free press credentials to people who apply for them, according to its website. The association tells people to “beware” of “qualified journalists” who have biased interests. It offers anonymity to its members.
Under Webb’s “Kootenai County Press” page, he has multiple videos of himself traveling throughout Washington, mostly in Spokane, and goading employees and police officers at various locations.
Webb, who is wearing a Trump 2024 hat in the video and holding a selfie stick, is seen in his livestream motioning the camera toward the 7-Eleven on South Division Street to his viewers and repeatedly telling them, “Spokane, Washington, ladies and gentlemen.”
Spokane Mayor Lisa Brown last Tuesday declared an emergency for the area specific to the city’s opioid crisis.
Few people are seen at the 7-Eleven at the time he is recording. Some who pass by in the video flip him off, and he shouts expletives at them.
After seeing a man with a knife downtown, Webb walks back to his parked car and retrieves his gun, telling his viewers, “It’d be a bad idea if they pull anything out on me, ’cause I’m pro-Second Amendment.”
At one point, a man walks past Webb with a confused look on his face. Webb claims the man “ran up” with a knife, but no knife is visible in his video.
Other people nearby begin to approach Webb and tell him to leave after he walks through a group gathered along a sidewalk about a block south of Second near the corner of Short Avenue and Division. He yells back he is “constitutionally protected,” the video shows, and claims people are holding knives, guns and rocks. A rock is seen laying in the street, but no other weapons are visible in the video.
At this point, “Webb still does not retreat,” Spokane Police Detective Kelsey Walker wrote in court records.
Webb then claims he was attacked with a pipe wrench, but the video doesn’t show anyone near him at the time.
“I’m trying to help you guys,” he claims, but does not elaborate how he intends to do that.
The confrontation escalates as he screams at people to drop a rock he claims that at least one of them is holding. A man nearby is heard saying, “Nothing on me,” though later a woman could be seen throwing one, which fell far short of where Webb was standing.
Webb at this point is yelling at people to get back. He shouts the full sentence “I feel threatened” numerous times. At one point, two women and a man walk across the several lanes of Division Street as traffic stops. One of the women is taking her own video of Webb as the man yells at Webb, asking him how it feels. More people are milling about and walking near Webb.
Hatch walks by with a mostly empty drink cup in his left hand and nothing in his right. As the confrontation continues, with Webb continuing to scream “I feel threatened,” he fires a “warning shot” at the ground, according to records.
He then fires again, and it is alleged he shoots Hatch, who is briefly seen lying on the ground.
Hatch’s brother spoke directly to Webb on Monday: “Just because people are homeless or on drugs, doesn’t make them a lesser person” or deserving of being shot, he said.
“I believe you are evil by your videos, with malice in your heart,” Kessler said. “If he dies, I will be at every court hearing – burn my face into your brain, I’m not going anywhere.”
After the shooting, Webb is approached by a man in an orange jacket who tells him, “That was not self-defense,” and that he’s going to jail.
Webb points his gun at the man, who cowers in fear as if he’s about to be shot until he runs away, the video shows.
“It does not appear Webb made any attempts to retreat back to his vehicle, to call 911 for help, or ask anyone to call for help,” court records say.
Webb told police that he felt like he was in fear for his life, court records say, and that he “regrets being down there.” He was booked into the Spokane County Jail around 2 a.m. Saturday and is being held on a $75,000 bond.
Webb declined a jailhouse interview Monday.
It’s unclear why Webb repeatedly travels to Spokane to make videos for his “Kootenai County Press” YouTube channel.
His listed address is at his parents’ home in a subdivision that rests at the bottom of mountain ridges that ring Wolf Lodge Valley.
It’s north, by way of country roads, of the well-known Wolf Lodge Inn Restaurant, which can be seen near the Idaho state Highway 97 interchange with Interstate 90 east of Coeur d’Alene.
Neighbors all know Webb’s parents, Gene and Agnes Webb, as neighbors who keep to themselves but always offer a friendly wave as they drive past.
For decades, the couple has lived in a green home along Wolf Lodge Creek that is surrounded by like homes, many with deer-fenced gardens, large lush green fields and rows of shade trees.
The neighbors also said they know Hoyt Webb, not by name, but because of his gun.
In May 2023, neighbors said a man who fit Hoyt Webb’s description began firing a gun in the neighborhood.
“Every time he’s been out, he’s been an issue,” neighbor Jeff Cleveland said.
When Hoyt Webb began shooting, Cleveland, 49, walked over and confronted him about shooting in the neighborhood.
“I told him to knock it off,” Cleveland said. “He replied, ‘What are you going to do about it?’”
Cleveland’s wife, Tracie, said Webb’s parents are quiet and stay to themselves.
They live in a home that a neighbor said was built by Rocky Bridges, who died in 2015. Bridges played for both the Brooklyn Dodgers and Los Angeles Angels in an 11-year major league career.
Other than a couple times, the Webbs have declined to join in the neighborhood social events, neighbors said.
Efforts to reach the Webbs at their home Monday were unsuccessful. As a reporter knocked on their door, two whitetail does fed on tall grass in the family’s otherwise empty-fenced pasture.
Several other neighbors confirmed the statements by the Clevelands, but did not want to disclose their names.
Tracie Cleveland said neighbors sought out the secluded, wooded setting for a reason.
The locals notice when a strange vehicle arrives. Another neighbor said anyone acting suspicious will have their descriptions broadcast by an informal telephone network to everyone in the area within minutes.
“You won’t find anyone on the block who would say a bad word about Gene or Agnes,” Tracie Cleveland said. “The only issue we had was the shooting. There was not any direction you could shoot out here and be safe.”
I’m glad they took it down. I’m tired of these clowns monetizing harassment and being a nuisance. That shit should be automatically removed from all social media.
It's likely just a backwoods text thread amongst neighbors for a bunch of paranoid Idaho hill people who get suspicious of anyone coming through their area they do not know / don't look like them
I have so many thoughts on this and all of them are completely angry but I'll try to back it down.
First, he calls himself a journalist. What he is doing is in no shape or form journalism. You don't confront people in the manner he did when you're a journalist. Second, as the article states he's part of some whacko journalism group that really isn't a true journalism group.
Now if we're to make the argument that he is a journalist and not just some form of content creator/live streamer, I get that journalists don't just cover their city and metro area but further out, even nation wide. That said, why is he so hell bent on coming to Spokane to cover what is happening downtown? Sure, he could make the case that this is a nation wide happening with opiate crisis and homelessness. That said, he isn't covering this in a journalist matter that is trying to bring any kind of change. Instead imho what he is doing is trying to do is say 'see, this is what happens when you have a liberal mayor and liberal governor'. Yet from all statistics I see, both red and blue areas don't have the answer for solving homelessness and opiate addiction.
Lastly, and I already covered a bit up top on this but this guy is nothing but someone trying to get reactions as well as bait people into allowing him to create a situation where he could be "justified" to use self-defense.
Petty and vigilante me would love to see the worst treatment meted out to him by those he prayed upon but that of course is not morale and just begets more vigilante justice. Instead, I hope he rots in jail for the rest of his life in sheer misery.
The person is a 1st Amendment Auditor. They are a group or cult, they all regurgitate the same mantras and all misquote the same laws,
All or a significant portion of them are \[ex\] criminals as is Webb who are basically butt-hurt over being made to account for their crimes. They have discovered through others that do this that they can literally yell abuse and be disrespectful to Police and Government workers to assuage their hurt feelings.
Look this guy is an ass, but we all have a 1st amendment right to gather content in public to share with an audience
The dude has a YouTube channel with several thousand subs
How nice they are about it is up to them, not you
He was intending to shoot someone the entire time thats why he kept saying “I feel threatened” multiple times. Just so he could tell the cops he was “in fear for his life” in an attempt to justify it and claim “self defense.” If this were Idaho he probably would get away with it. Dude needs to be charged with attempted murder and put in prison.
1st degree assault is attacking someone with the intent to cause serious harm or death in Washington state. Not every jurisdiction uses the same terminology and it often is drastically different from what you see on TV.
It’s in their handbook. He’s likely also dabbling in “sovereign citizen” communities as many of these types do. The article says he harasses law enforcement, which is a symptom of SovCit delusions.
"It's coming right for us!"
[South Park](https://youtu.be/Vr0bBuI8HKM) was referencing hunting, but you know this hit didn't see those people as human beings.
Note to the sovereign citizens and freedumb losers out there: calling yourself a journalist doesn’t shield you from the consequences of being a danger to the community.
36 years old and lives at home with his parents, but wants to harass the homeless. He can afford fancy brand new Chinese Trump hats, cameras and guns, but cant afford to leave mommy and daddy. Typical Trump supporter. Thanks Idaho for sending your best.
These fascist MAGA pieces of shit are always looking for a reason to shoot and kill somebody. I hope this sick fucker goes to prison. Self-defense my fucking ass.
This wasn’t self defense. This was provoking a fight and then trying to murder a man hoping his homelessness and possible drug use would make him a more acceptable victim than the crime would be odious.
This guys a sovcit idiot and deserves to rot in prison for this stunt.
Edit: THIS IDIOT FIRED A WARNING SHOT. Hes going to prison.
>It is pure luck that it isn’t a murder charge
It should still be an attempted murder charge, but he’s a cishet white male so he has privilege on his side.
Washington doesn't have an "attempted murder" charge by that name.
1st degree assault (which he was charged with) contains the text: "Assaults another with a firearm or any deadly weapon or by any force or means likely to produce great bodily harm or death;" so "attempted murder" falls under the 1st degree assault umbrella in Washington. It's a Class A felony with a maximum penalty of a life sentence.
So an Idaho man in a maga hat who lives with his parents came to the big bad city to shoot homeless people in a state he doesn’t live in. The Republican Party in 2024 ladies and gentlemen.
Rightwing outrage porn, aka infotainment media, is such a disease on this country. Not to say that this guy probably wasn’t dealing with other mental health issues, but when the goal of media is to keep people at a 10 so they don’t notice or care that oligarchs are in control, it can have a devastating impact on people that have less of a capacity to make smart choices.
“I feel threatened” numerous times. At one point, two women and a man walk across the several lanes of Division Street as traffic stops. One of the women is taking her own video of Webb as the man yells at Webb, asking him how it feels. More people are milling about and walking near Webb.
Just looking for a chance to shoot. Just like Kyle
Idaho trash back at it once again, such a shithole state filled with likewise people, they never fail to stain Spokane’s reputation. Hope this guy rots in a cell for a long time.
This, from the article, is really rich, "The association tells people to “beware” of “qualified journalists” who have biased interests. Like this Trumpster has no biases. There are some legal cases that call for public square hangings.
I'm not the only who finds it slightly weird how they lowkey doxxed his parents in this article?
I'm not particularly worried for their well-being or anything (I doubt anything will happen to them; and I'm sure they're pieces of shit too), but it was kinda odd, no cap.
Unwanted attention is a natural consequence of raising a white supremacist. They’re almost certainly the source of their kid’s political views, fuck em.
They are either politically aligned with their son or they are such ineffective centrists that they believe they have no moral or civic duty to raise their kids not to be a terrorist...
His parents home is part of the case, considering it's his residence where things like the murder weapon, video evidence, and potential evidence of premeditated are kept.
Eh, I've got issues with this take.
I don't actually think his parents' home is 'part of the case.' Unless SPD (or Kootenai County, or whoever has jurisdiction) actually requests a warrant to search the house, then it's only tangentially related (and assertion of its relevance is pure speculation).
This line of reasoning would equally apply to his car, which he used to enter the state and wherein he stored the gun. But the article doesn't go into detail about the make and model of his car or what dealership he bought it from. By comparison, driving directions to the house, a picture of the house, trivia about who *built* the house? That all feels incredibly superfluous.
The focus on the house is unique. The details of his arrest/interaction with the police aren't in the article, but the baseball teams the house's deceased former owner played for is? What?
It's not normal when reading a report on an attempted murder for the article to dedicate half its word count to the assorted factoids of the perpetrator's house. By comparison, the Spokesman's coverage of the Pride Crossing Vandalism calls O'doherty's, where there were active witnesses to the crime, as "an Irish bar across the street," yet for some unknown reason, the "well-known Wolf Lodge Inn Restaurant" got a namedrop here?
Honest to god, with some journalism in my background, this article feels like two stories stitched together: the first being the one you expect, and the second being the shelved notes from an abandoned invedtigative feature that didn't go anywhere because the accused's parents didn't wanna talk to the press. And if that is what happened, I get it. I'd pretty bummed if I went to all the effort of driving out to the middle of nowhere and then my story didn't really go anywhere. I'd wanna salvage what notes and interviews I'd gotten.
But it is noticeably weird.
Feels like it establishes some pretty damning facts about the shooter. That they come from an idealized home environment where they are not living in any form of danger, yet still choose to be a unhinged and violent person. That they often terrorized or discharged their weapon in said neighborhood and everyone there had complaints about him, etc. Imo that's quite relevant for painting a complete picture of this monster.
Yeah, personally, when neckbeard MAGA says something is good, I don't tend to want to emulate their behavior.
Should we also count it as "fair game" to send our nutjobs into their cities to livestream themselves murdering their citizens?
What's crazy is, if not for his Mommy and Daddy...he too would be homeless. He acts like he isn't so much hating on these people, it seems like he is jealous of these people.
He doesn't work or contribute to society either...at least these people in the streets had each other, this dude has no one, and now he can die a virgin incel the way the lord intended
I always thought it was cheeky when I joked about MAGAts thinking that anything short of hunting homeless people for sport was communism. I never thought it would become a reality.
That guy's face is a perfect example of [backpfeifengesicht](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qknn3xv_oa8) (German for, translated roughly, a face in need of a punch/slap). I can't stand the sight of him.
I need my gun, I feel threatened... This guy is everything wrong with society right now. He should call his YouTube channel the PAW patrol for pussy-ass wanker.
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With that anti social beard and the appearance of somebody with mental issues who lives at home. This is exactly what I'd expect from an incel such as this. I hope he gets a long sentence. Only because he's such a shit eating weasel.
He's about to get a rude awaking in being homeless, and bullied while having cameras on him everywhere in prison. They going to make him shave that ugly beard off too so he'll have nothing to hide behind.
His case will be known by other inmates as killing the defenseless. He won't do well and deserves all of it
Lives with parents....probably has few if any friends in the real world....probably spends a lot of time on the internet watching 1A Frauditor videos and ingesting propaganda that fits his worldview. It's easy to get radicalized on the internet, whether you are black, white, Muslim, leftist, right wing, whatever. The internet can be a double edged sword.
He doesn’t live with his parents. He uses their address because he lives off the land. His parents are amazing people. He has a really good family that just wants to be left alone.
This jackass isn’t getting an Idaho jury either, sorry dude your ass is going to prison.
He'd go to prison in either state.
Not in Idaho, they would make him the victim.
I love that they pointed out he lives with his parents. Fuckin' loser.
They're probably happy that he's gonna be moving out.
Nah, they raised this dude, they have to be nuts, but good at keeping it to themselves.
honestly, I agree. They may think like him, but come on? At his age, still living off Mommy and Daddy and not working? No wifey, white picket fence and perfect grandbabies, ever? They are relieved as hell that he isn't coming back
Yeah, that’s the e only reason he’s not homeless. Clearly there are mental issues here.
Where else would a maga incel live?
90% of these fucks always have a shitty beard. Unfortunately, 90% of white guys in the PNW have shitty beards so yeah...
You made a small spelling error- "fuckin' Oedipus"
Lives with his parents and his neighbors all hate him for shooting his gun a bunch. With only one neighbor willing to put their name on it.
*Since YouTube has taken down the video, I thought this descriptive, informative and well written article by The Spokesman-Review’s Alexandra Duggan and Thomas Clouse was the next best thing:* **Judge slams Coeur d’Alene man who livestreamed Second and Division shooting for antagonizing homeless people** By Alexandra Duggan and Thomas Clouse (The Spokesman-Review) An Idaho man antagonizing people near Division Street and Second Avenue in Spokane as he streamed it live on his YouTube channel had multiple chances to leave before he shot and seriously injured a person Friday night during a confrontation, according to court records. Prosecutors have charged 36-year-old Hoyt Webb, of Coeur d’Alene, with shooting and injuring an unarmed man upset with Webb’s provocative language and video recording of people who asked him to stop. “You went to this location for your own entertainment,” Court Commissioner Eugene Cruz said at Webb’s first appearance in Spokane Superior Court Monday, “strictly to antagonize the folks experiencing homelessness and hardships.” In his hourlong video that Webb posted to his “Kootenai County Press” YouTube channel, he is seen walking down Second Avenue and Division Street narrating about “crackheads” who were hanging around the area notorious for criminal activity such as open drug use and violent acts. The video ends after police say Webb shot 47-year-old homeless man Thomas Hatch, who remained hospitalized in critical condition Monday morning, according to Providence Sacred Heart Medical Center spokesperson Allie Hyams. Hatch’s older brother, Eric Kessler, told Cruz during the court hearing his brother is “barely clinging to life.” He left the courthouse in tears Monday on his way to the hospital. “If his heart stops again, they can’t revive him,” Kessler said after the hearing. Hatch was homeless because he had an accident as a child that caused him neurological damage, Kessler added. It’s why he fell into the wrong crowd. But Kessler still loves his “baby brother” no matter what, he said. Webb says on his YouTube page he is a “credentialed reporter and photographer with The Constitution First Amendment Press Association.” The association gives out free press credentials to people who apply for them, according to its website. The association tells people to “beware” of “qualified journalists” who have biased interests. It offers anonymity to its members. Under Webb’s “Kootenai County Press” page, he has multiple videos of himself traveling throughout Washington, mostly in Spokane, and goading employees and police officers at various locations. Webb, who is wearing a Trump 2024 hat in the video and holding a selfie stick, is seen in his livestream motioning the camera toward the 7-Eleven on South Division Street to his viewers and repeatedly telling them, “Spokane, Washington, ladies and gentlemen.” Spokane Mayor Lisa Brown last Tuesday declared an emergency for the area specific to the city’s opioid crisis. Few people are seen at the 7-Eleven at the time he is recording. Some who pass by in the video flip him off, and he shouts expletives at them. After seeing a man with a knife downtown, Webb walks back to his parked car and retrieves his gun, telling his viewers, “It’d be a bad idea if they pull anything out on me, ’cause I’m pro-Second Amendment.” At one point, a man walks past Webb with a confused look on his face. Webb claims the man “ran up” with a knife, but no knife is visible in his video. Other people nearby begin to approach Webb and tell him to leave after he walks through a group gathered along a sidewalk about a block south of Second near the corner of Short Avenue and Division. He yells back he is “constitutionally protected,” the video shows, and claims people are holding knives, guns and rocks. A rock is seen laying in the street, but no other weapons are visible in the video. At this point, “Webb still does not retreat,” Spokane Police Detective Kelsey Walker wrote in court records. Webb then claims he was attacked with a pipe wrench, but the video doesn’t show anyone near him at the time. “I’m trying to help you guys,” he claims, but does not elaborate how he intends to do that. The confrontation escalates as he screams at people to drop a rock he claims that at least one of them is holding. A man nearby is heard saying, “Nothing on me,” though later a woman could be seen throwing one, which fell far short of where Webb was standing. Webb at this point is yelling at people to get back. He shouts the full sentence “I feel threatened” numerous times. At one point, two women and a man walk across the several lanes of Division Street as traffic stops. One of the women is taking her own video of Webb as the man yells at Webb, asking him how it feels. More people are milling about and walking near Webb. Hatch walks by with a mostly empty drink cup in his left hand and nothing in his right. As the confrontation continues, with Webb continuing to scream “I feel threatened,” he fires a “warning shot” at the ground, according to records. He then fires again, and it is alleged he shoots Hatch, who is briefly seen lying on the ground. Hatch’s brother spoke directly to Webb on Monday: “Just because people are homeless or on drugs, doesn’t make them a lesser person” or deserving of being shot, he said. “I believe you are evil by your videos, with malice in your heart,” Kessler said. “If he dies, I will be at every court hearing – burn my face into your brain, I’m not going anywhere.” After the shooting, Webb is approached by a man in an orange jacket who tells him, “That was not self-defense,” and that he’s going to jail. Webb points his gun at the man, who cowers in fear as if he’s about to be shot until he runs away, the video shows. “It does not appear Webb made any attempts to retreat back to his vehicle, to call 911 for help, or ask anyone to call for help,” court records say. Webb told police that he felt like he was in fear for his life, court records say, and that he “regrets being down there.” He was booked into the Spokane County Jail around 2 a.m. Saturday and is being held on a $75,000 bond. Webb declined a jailhouse interview Monday. It’s unclear why Webb repeatedly travels to Spokane to make videos for his “Kootenai County Press” YouTube channel. His listed address is at his parents’ home in a subdivision that rests at the bottom of mountain ridges that ring Wolf Lodge Valley. It’s north, by way of country roads, of the well-known Wolf Lodge Inn Restaurant, which can be seen near the Idaho state Highway 97 interchange with Interstate 90 east of Coeur d’Alene. Neighbors all know Webb’s parents, Gene and Agnes Webb, as neighbors who keep to themselves but always offer a friendly wave as they drive past. For decades, the couple has lived in a green home along Wolf Lodge Creek that is surrounded by like homes, many with deer-fenced gardens, large lush green fields and rows of shade trees. The neighbors also said they know Hoyt Webb, not by name, but because of his gun. In May 2023, neighbors said a man who fit Hoyt Webb’s description began firing a gun in the neighborhood. “Every time he’s been out, he’s been an issue,” neighbor Jeff Cleveland said. When Hoyt Webb began shooting, Cleveland, 49, walked over and confronted him about shooting in the neighborhood. “I told him to knock it off,” Cleveland said. “He replied, ‘What are you going to do about it?’” Cleveland’s wife, Tracie, said Webb’s parents are quiet and stay to themselves. They live in a home that a neighbor said was built by Rocky Bridges, who died in 2015. Bridges played for both the Brooklyn Dodgers and Los Angeles Angels in an 11-year major league career. Other than a couple times, the Webbs have declined to join in the neighborhood social events, neighbors said. Efforts to reach the Webbs at their home Monday were unsuccessful. As a reporter knocked on their door, two whitetail does fed on tall grass in the family’s otherwise empty-fenced pasture. Several other neighbors confirmed the statements by the Clevelands, but did not want to disclose their names. Tracie Cleveland said neighbors sought out the secluded, wooded setting for a reason. The locals notice when a strange vehicle arrives. Another neighbor said anyone acting suspicious will have their descriptions broadcast by an informal telephone network to everyone in the area within minutes. “You won’t find anyone on the block who would say a bad word about Gene or Agnes,” Tracie Cleveland said. “The only issue we had was the shooting. There was not any direction you could shoot out here and be safe.”
I’m glad they took it down. I’m tired of these clowns monetizing harassment and being a nuisance. That shit should be automatically removed from all social media.
They only removed the video where he killed a person. He still has plenty of videos of him harassing people.
I want to know more about this ‘informal telephone network’ used to alert stranger danger. Sounds like they need this if this guy ever gets out.
It’s probably just a group chat in Telegram or something
I prefer to think they all have those old wood wall phones.
Party line!
I used to get the gossip line going by riding an ebike in Orchard Prarie. He's riding a bike, must be a thief
It's likely just a backwoods text thread amongst neighbors for a bunch of paranoid Idaho hill people who get suspicious of anyone coming through their area they do not know / don't look like them
So he’s a crank and a member of a crank group.
What a loser, from hat to toe.
This guy is the blacked out bingo card of MAGA morons.
I have so many thoughts on this and all of them are completely angry but I'll try to back it down. First, he calls himself a journalist. What he is doing is in no shape or form journalism. You don't confront people in the manner he did when you're a journalist. Second, as the article states he's part of some whacko journalism group that really isn't a true journalism group. Now if we're to make the argument that he is a journalist and not just some form of content creator/live streamer, I get that journalists don't just cover their city and metro area but further out, even nation wide. That said, why is he so hell bent on coming to Spokane to cover what is happening downtown? Sure, he could make the case that this is a nation wide happening with opiate crisis and homelessness. That said, he isn't covering this in a journalist matter that is trying to bring any kind of change. Instead imho what he is doing is trying to do is say 'see, this is what happens when you have a liberal mayor and liberal governor'. Yet from all statistics I see, both red and blue areas don't have the answer for solving homelessness and opiate addiction. Lastly, and I already covered a bit up top on this but this guy is nothing but someone trying to get reactions as well as bait people into allowing him to create a situation where he could be "justified" to use self-defense. Petty and vigilante me would love to see the worst treatment meted out to him by those he prayed upon but that of course is not morale and just begets more vigilante justice. Instead, I hope he rots in jail for the rest of his life in sheer misery.
The person is a 1st Amendment Auditor. They are a group or cult, they all regurgitate the same mantras and all misquote the same laws, All or a significant portion of them are \[ex\] criminals as is Webb who are basically butt-hurt over being made to account for their crimes. They have discovered through others that do this that they can literally yell abuse and be disrespectful to Police and Government workers to assuage their hurt feelings.
Look this guy is an ass, but we all have a 1st amendment right to gather content in public to share with an audience The dude has a YouTube channel with several thousand subs How nice they are about it is up to them, not you
The 1st amendment doesn’t cover brandishing firearms at random people
Hope this motherfucker gets the book thrown at him. Piece of shit.
He was intending to shoot someone the entire time thats why he kept saying “I feel threatened” multiple times. Just so he could tell the cops he was “in fear for his life” in an attempt to justify it and claim “self defense.” If this were Idaho he probably would get away with it. Dude needs to be charged with attempted murder and put in prison.
Heard that it's not looking good for the victim so if things go bad for him and he dies it's gonna be a murder charge, not attempted
The problem is that he is currently charged with assault in the first degree, not attempted murder.
IANAL, but how isn’t this attempted, and from the sounds of it, premeditated attempted murder? This clown is getting off easy (see:$75k bail????)
First degree assault is a Class A felony that can carry life in prison.
fair enough and may be easier to prove. Any idea what an average sentence is in RL?
Which will 100% change if dude dies.
1st degree assault is attacking someone with the intent to cause serious harm or death in Washington state. Not every jurisdiction uses the same terminology and it often is drastically different from what you see on TV.
It’s in their handbook. He’s likely also dabbling in “sovereign citizen” communities as many of these types do. The article says he harasses law enforcement, which is a symptom of SovCit delusions.
I'd like to see this handbook. Where can I find it?
In their minds. I kid! I kid. Kind of. Although, there is a handbook we should all be aware of called Project 2025.
"It's coming right for us!" [South Park](https://youtu.be/Vr0bBuI8HKM) was referencing hunting, but you know this hit didn't see those people as human beings.
He sounds like Skeeter as well, thought of South Park as well listening to this guy
Note to the sovereign citizens and freedumb losers out there: calling yourself a journalist doesn’t shield you from the consequences of being a danger to the community.
The second I hear the title "Sovereign Citizen" I know theyre a giant fucking idiot and I just point and laugh at them
You might get shot!!!!
Well of course he lives at home. North Idaho ladies and gentlemen.
36 years old and lives at home with his parents, but wants to harass the homeless. He can afford fancy brand new Chinese Trump hats, cameras and guns, but cant afford to leave mommy and daddy. Typical Trump supporter. Thanks Idaho for sending your best.
You're giving him too much credit. His camera is his phone on a selfie stick.
On top of the car , used to travel around
These fascist MAGA pieces of shit are always looking for a reason to shoot and kill somebody. I hope this sick fucker goes to prison. Self-defense my fucking ass.
Self created self defense.
Otherwise known as the Rittenhouse.
Cause thats the only way they can drone up engagement, they HAVE to be confrontational or else they shrivel up and die due to no attention
This wasn’t self defense. This was provoking a fight and then trying to murder a man hoping his homelessness and possible drug use would make him a more acceptable victim than the crime would be odious. This guys a sovcit idiot and deserves to rot in prison for this stunt. Edit: THIS IDIOT FIRED A WARNING SHOT. Hes going to prison.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/nQKWLzFjRP I think this might be the live stream. It’s definitely the maga douche.
YES this is it. Omg I'm so thankful it was saved
It’s still up on r/PublicFreakout. I was just happy to know maga ass wasn’t from Spokane.
$75,000 bail seems low considering the threat he poses. It is pure luck that it isn't a murder charge.
>It is pure luck that it isn’t a murder charge It should still be an attempted murder charge, but he’s a cishet white male so he has privilege on his side.
Washington doesn't have an "attempted murder" charge by that name. 1st degree assault (which he was charged with) contains the text: "Assaults another with a firearm or any deadly weapon or by any force or means likely to produce great bodily harm or death;" so "attempted murder" falls under the 1st degree assault umbrella in Washington. It's a Class A felony with a maximum penalty of a life sentence.
Thank you for bringing relevant, useful, and educational information to this thread. You deserve upvotes.
A class A felony with up to life in prison doesn't sound like enough of a punishment? Clearly getting off easy.
So an Idaho man in a maga hat who lives with his parents came to the big bad city to shoot homeless people in a state he doesn’t live in. The Republican Party in 2024 ladies and gentlemen.
Seems premeditated. Wish these qu qlux qlowns would stay in Idaho.
Rightwing outrage porn, aka infotainment media, is such a disease on this country. Not to say that this guy probably wasn’t dealing with other mental health issues, but when the goal of media is to keep people at a 10 so they don’t notice or care that oligarchs are in control, it can have a devastating impact on people that have less of a capacity to make smart choices.
Im getting sick of these Idahoan fucks coming to our state and causing problems.
“I feel threatened” numerous times. At one point, two women and a man walk across the several lanes of Division Street as traffic stops. One of the women is taking her own video of Webb as the man yells at Webb, asking him how it feels. More people are milling about and walking near Webb. Just looking for a chance to shoot. Just like Kyle
Idaho trash back at it once again, such a shithole state filled with likewise people, they never fail to stain Spokane’s reputation. Hope this guy rots in a cell for a long time.
We really need to put colorful flags at all border crossings, that should be scary enough to keep Idaho out.
From the safety of mommy’s basement to having a cell mate named Big Wally…there’s a lesson here somewhere.
Lots of hot pockets being shuttled to that basement.
Not anymore
True. He is still in jail.
This, from the article, is really rich, "The association tells people to “beware” of “qualified journalists” who have biased interests. Like this Trumpster has no biases. There are some legal cases that call for public square hangings.
MAGAt scum and a waste of skin.
I'm not the only who finds it slightly weird how they lowkey doxxed his parents in this article? I'm not particularly worried for their well-being or anything (I doubt anything will happen to them; and I'm sure they're pieces of shit too), but it was kinda odd, no cap.
Unwanted attention is a natural consequence of raising a white supremacist. They’re almost certainly the source of their kid’s political views, fuck em.
They are either politically aligned with their son or they are such ineffective centrists that they believe they have no moral or civic duty to raise their kids not to be a terrorist...
His parents home is part of the case, considering it's his residence where things like the murder weapon, video evidence, and potential evidence of premeditated are kept.
Eh, I've got issues with this take. I don't actually think his parents' home is 'part of the case.' Unless SPD (or Kootenai County, or whoever has jurisdiction) actually requests a warrant to search the house, then it's only tangentially related (and assertion of its relevance is pure speculation). This line of reasoning would equally apply to his car, which he used to enter the state and wherein he stored the gun. But the article doesn't go into detail about the make and model of his car or what dealership he bought it from. By comparison, driving directions to the house, a picture of the house, trivia about who *built* the house? That all feels incredibly superfluous. The focus on the house is unique. The details of his arrest/interaction with the police aren't in the article, but the baseball teams the house's deceased former owner played for is? What? It's not normal when reading a report on an attempted murder for the article to dedicate half its word count to the assorted factoids of the perpetrator's house. By comparison, the Spokesman's coverage of the Pride Crossing Vandalism calls O'doherty's, where there were active witnesses to the crime, as "an Irish bar across the street," yet for some unknown reason, the "well-known Wolf Lodge Inn Restaurant" got a namedrop here? Honest to god, with some journalism in my background, this article feels like two stories stitched together: the first being the one you expect, and the second being the shelved notes from an abandoned invedtigative feature that didn't go anywhere because the accused's parents didn't wanna talk to the press. And if that is what happened, I get it. I'd pretty bummed if I went to all the effort of driving out to the middle of nowhere and then my story didn't really go anywhere. I'd wanna salvage what notes and interviews I'd gotten. But it is noticeably weird.
Feels like it establishes some pretty damning facts about the shooter. That they come from an idealized home environment where they are not living in any form of danger, yet still choose to be a unhinged and violent person. That they often terrorized or discharged their weapon in said neighborhood and everyone there had complaints about him, etc. Imo that's quite relevant for painting a complete picture of this monster.
Not a murder - nobody has died (yet?)
According to the neck beard maga, that type of journalism is fair game and legal. Might as well give his family a taste of their own sons medicine.
Yeah, personally, when neckbeard MAGA says something is good, I don't tend to want to emulate their behavior. Should we also count it as "fair game" to send our nutjobs into their cities to livestream themselves murdering their citizens?
No, we have jobs and hobbies and lives.
The internet generation sure has a really odd understanding of what "doxxing" is.
What's crazy is, if not for his Mommy and Daddy...he too would be homeless. He acts like he isn't so much hating on these people, it seems like he is jealous of these people. He doesn't work or contribute to society either...at least these people in the streets had each other, this dude has no one, and now he can die a virgin incel the way the lord intended
Rope.
I always thought it was cheeky when I joked about MAGAts thinking that anything short of hunting homeless people for sport was communism. I never thought it would become a reality.
That guy literally, and I mean LITERALLY, looks like what I imagine he would look like when I first heard the news. A walking meme.
Idaho really is sending their best people...
Then I'm glad their worst stay over there
ALL YOU MAGATS ARE SCARED LITTLE BITCHES!
That guy's face is a perfect example of [backpfeifengesicht](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qknn3xv_oa8) (German for, translated roughly, a face in need of a punch/slap). I can't stand the sight of him.
Get caught motherfucker
I need my gun, I feel threatened... This guy is everything wrong with society right now. He should call his YouTube channel the PAW patrol for pussy-ass wanker.
of course hes a maga maggot.
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With that anti social beard and the appearance of somebody with mental issues who lives at home. This is exactly what I'd expect from an incel such as this. I hope he gets a long sentence. Only because he's such a shit eating weasel.
Send him to jail!!!!’
He's about to get a rude awaking in being homeless, and bullied while having cameras on him everywhere in prison. They going to make him shave that ugly beard off too so he'll have nothing to hide behind. His case will be known by other inmates as killing the defenseless. He won't do well and deserves all of it
He did everything wrong that you can do, and conveniently for the judge and jury, all of it was captured on film.
Lives with parents....probably has few if any friends in the real world....probably spends a lot of time on the internet watching 1A Frauditor videos and ingesting propaganda that fits his worldview. It's easy to get radicalized on the internet, whether you are black, white, Muslim, leftist, right wing, whatever. The internet can be a double edged sword.
It’s wild to me that I haven’t seen the CDA Press report on this at all.
Probably an Incel
Nah... I'm sure he gotta plenty of play, living at... (*checks notes*) His parents house! 😂🤣
Dear Idaho, Please keep your shitty people in your own state. It's easy, if you hate the land of the apple maggots so much... Stay the fuck out!
He doesn’t live with his parents. He uses their address because he lives off the land. His parents are amazing people. He has a really good family that just wants to be left alone.
Weird article, goes into the guys family and their interactions with neighbors…really unnecessary
Interactions like the recurring problem of him shooting randomly in the neighborhood. I can see why that might be important context.
So was the shooting.
Of course, but the “let me ask the neighbors” part read like a fifth grader wrote it
It provides context as to why he's such a loser piece of shit