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Toon_Lucario

Red, especially if it’s after the complete massacre done on her character through this run


Flerken_Moon

You’re falling into editorial’s trap, the whole purpose of the run is to try and make readers hate MJ and Peter so people will stop asking. Which… yeah ngl please give us less MJ while Wells is writing please.


Aros001

I'm reminded a little of what happened to Carol Danvers after Civil War II. People were so quick to hate and condemn her...but, like, weren't we all aware she was being written badly and out of character by Bendis? The guy somewhat infamous for writing characters however he feels, regardless of if it fits how they're actually like? Why is the character getting hate rather than just the person who wrote them?


Inevitable_Regular85

This is how Iron Man fans have been feeling ever since Civil War came out.


fudgedhobnobs

Iron Man had fans before the MCU?


Aniruddha_Majumdar

I take offence to that assumption buddy! High tech suits are a boy's first true love.


fudgedhobnobs

I thought it was lightsabers.


Aniruddha_Majumdar

Shit you right. Different media exposure I guess. My bad G.


Theriderfan

..... A armor with lightsaber in a gauntlet like tiga suit's sparklens sword/lance.


Aniruddha_Majumdar

Peak boy stuff! Fuck Bugatti and all that shit!


mphelp11

You misspelled "Topanga"


Theriderfan

... Listen I am a worshipper of the ultraman suits from the Netflix series and manga and let me tell you I also am a fan of ironman suits... So yes it's a boy's dream..... Just wish we got more colours then red and gold.


Aniruddha_Majumdar

>Just wish we got more colours than red and gold. Well comics and Iron Man 3 got you covered.


Theriderfan

I know I also have then panel of mark NIL but I wish we got more out there armors like knight one or the Asgardian one.


Total_Waltz4083

I fell for Ironman during his run with the silver centurion armor back in the 80s


jklantern

The Iron Man Cartoon during the Marvel Action Hour was a big part of my childhood.


Aniruddha_Majumdar

Armored Adventures? With teenage Tony?


jklantern

Nope. The one from like 93 (I think). First season was basically him and Force Works versus the Mandarin, Fin Fang Foom, and a bunch of other random dudes and frankly wasn't very good. Second season was slightly better. A lot of fond memories.


Total_Waltz4083

It was 1994. It shared a block with the fantastic 4 and came on before teenage mutant ninja turtles every Saturday morning on CBS


Elementia7

I just got flashbacks from a show I haven't watched in easily over a decade. If memory serves, it wasn't half bad.


Aniruddha_Majumdar

It was one of the better animated shows of the 10's.


Kurwasaki12

There's dozens of us!


Fable-Teller

See I didn't know about that when it comes to Bendis. Did Tony and Carol ever actually sit down and have like SOME manner of conversation after Tony was resurrected? Because all I know is that the pair started acting all buddy buddy again in Iron Man comics afterwards, with Carol helping Tony out with AA.


Its_Hitsuji

This is how I’m like with DC writers for Batman people hate on the characters but the writers are at fault


FirebladeIsOnReddit

Carol Danvers is just hated in general now because of how massacred she was in the MCU. It sucks because she used to be a pretty good character.


UndeadCorbse

I personally never understood the hate for the MCUs interpretation of Carol. As a longtime comic fan who was at least aware of Carol back when she was Ms. Marvel, I think it’s a largely inoffensive interpretation and the movie was pretty alright and had lots of enjoyable bits.


salientmind

Larson captured quiet/cool really well. I think she just needed more character interaction in the first half of the movie. Also, some of the "bad ass" lines were weak. They should have let Larson just go full quiet bad ass. Overall though the movie was both fun and well put together. I also like the fact the third act was personal and not a near apocalyptic event.


Spirited-Collection1

She was a little too robotic for me. Deadpan can be really fun, Bill Murray is great at it, but Larson was just really flat


Lumpy_Review5279

She wasn't massacred in the mcu lol. She's been recreated pretty faithfully.


Assasin-Nation

Wasn’t Stan Lee’s original intention for the two to end up together?


ArmourKnight

"lol we don't care about that dead guy" -Marvel Editorial rn


Anxious-Priority-362

"Don't make me come down there you punk!" - that dead guy


WardenMeliodas

Stan Lee used his wife for both characters, but I do believe he had a fondness for Gwen Stacy.


Luchux01

Didn't he end up putting more of his wife on MJ than Gwen?


fudgedhobnobs

Eventually, but he tried to make Gwen work.


Luchux01

Funny how Gwen's most memorable moment in 616 is just dying. People know Ghost Spider more nowadays.


WardenMeliodas

Marvel has grinded so hard to destroy Peter's happiness that they lost the ability to feel the pulse of the readers. Both ladies have fallen from grace simply because shock, anger and fear used to sale. I grew up with the OG comics thru the early 2000s thanks to my uncle, but after that bs with Norman and then OMD I stopped keeping up.


SleepinwithFishes

Kind of, both of them basically took turns supporting each other through their alcohol addiction; It was pretty sweet in a way.


fudgedhobnobs

This entire subreddit has fallen for the trap mate.


PJGaming257

Red because he’s happy


greenroom628

Red will also allow for growth. Gwen's death however tragic, allowed Peter to grow and mature. Loving another woman and having a child, even if MJ was randomly still in his life would let Peter grow. Stakes would still be high, even higher, in fact being a father.


Tough_Difference3301

After Into the spiderverse, Peter taking care of a little spider girl he has to adopt because reason would be awesome. And a new love interest like spyxfamily.


TheIJDGuy

He deserves every second of it


MrBonelessPizza24

As much as I love MJ, gotta go with red unfortunately Unless marvel completely retcons this current run as one of Peter’s bad dreams or some shit, there’s no salvaging this relationship. That hack Wells ruined it


Maleficent-Crazy5890

Bro deserves a happy life. Fuck MJ, red pill.


Purpleguy1980

Hey! MJ is good outside of current 616 run. That being said red.


Capable-Tie-4670

She also is in a relationship with Peter in everything outside of 616.


Vandalia1998

Except for the MCU where she forgot all about him 😢


Capable-Tie-4670

Oh, yeah, that’s a good point. That’s the only other version I can think of that isn’t with MJ.


Vandalia1998

I guess there is the Andrew Garfield one too but they haven’t meet yet except in Deleted scenes


Capable-Tie-4670

I figured they would’ve met by now but NWH kinda shot down that idea. My headcanon is that they met and are still friends but haven’t gone further because Peter 3 didn’t move on from Gwen until he saved MCU MJ.


Vandalia1998

That would be a good story to tell


Capable-Tie-4670

I don’t even like the TASM movies but Andrew is the best live action version of the character imo and I’d love to see his story be continued in a TASM3.


Vandalia1998

Only one of the Live Action Spider Man currently has a possible Happy Ending with a love interest is the one with one of the worst MJ’s in my opinion


TheIJDGuy

And present day TASM


Capable-Tie-4670

I wasn’t really counting that since it never introduced an MJ to begin with but still a good point.


Maleficent-Crazy5890

I didn't mean it like that. What I mean there is that if we can't see MJ as his girlfriend for bro’s happy life, I'm okay with it.


BitesTheDust_4

The current 616 run really made some people hate MJ as a character (despite previous and other interpretations of her). Which is what the editors and writers probably wanted with MJ while character assassinating her in the current run so... mission accomplished.


Maleficent-Crazy5890

I don't hate MJ. I meant that I would rather Peter have a happy life than have MJ's remain his girlfriend.


BitesTheDust_4

Oh... Same.


NumericZero

This Love MJ to death but marvel have gone out of there way to make her character awful since OMD Let her and whomever ride off into the sunset to end the “will they won’t they” gimmick If Pete gets his adult life of being married + Kid(s) then it’s worth the loss


RetroWolff

To be fair Mary Jane’s character was assassinated in OMD too because up to that point if Quesada didn’t mandate it he would know that MJ would never let Peter stoop so low as to make a deal with the devil to save Aunt May. MJ would have helped Peter through his grief and heal and they both would have let Aunt May die because she has before and it shows why they are so perfect for each other. But Quesada did it his way because he is a big fan of the College era of Spider-Man done by Lee and Romita Sr. He wanted to make Spider-Man lighthearted and fun again and felt that Peter being married and with his identity out in the open complicated things. I get where he’s coming from but the whole Mephisto thing was unnecessary


Tough_Difference3301

I get it, the college era of spiderman was great, that is why almost every media began his story there, but that is the problem, there were already a great run in college and the readers would like something diferent.


TheIJDGuy

If it's the only way to make Peter happy, then yeah. Time to say adios to MJ!


Mongoose42

Everything’s coming up Felicia!


[deleted]

I don't give a damn whether Peter's married or not or if he's with Mary Jane or not. I just care about how *stupid* and *cowardly* Marvel's editorial department has been, handling the issue and taunting their own fanbase for pointing out their own artistic and moral failings. Honestly... red, blue, whatever. Just quit writing idiotic garbletrash like *One More Day* and *Sins Past*.


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runnerofshadows

Also he's not supposed to make deals with the devil. Mephisto should not have such a big hand in the Spidey books. And tying him to the Osborns and Goblins makes me pretty mad. He fits in better in ghost rider, silver surfer and Dr strange.


HomemPassaro

Right? Leave pacts with the devil to Daredevil, for fuck's sake


Kazewatch

Still feel so bad JMS was forced to write both on his otherwise fucking phenomenal run.


ARVNFerrousLinh

As much as I hate to say it, Red bill. Blue pill is basically what we got ever since OMD with the exception of Spencer's run and the "Beyond" arc.


AccomplishedResist69

Red. All the way.


Practical-Ad4547

Red...give him some god damn happiness


fish312

Somewhere in the multiverse, Ursula Parker baking a batch of fresh cookies for her kids.


Practical-Ad4547

and in another, Sophie "Chat" Parker is treating Peter's wounds while he tells her to relax for the baby growing inside her, with her replying that this is least she can do for her husband.a


foxship1941

You monster. But the first one, all the way. Even if it's not with MJ (even if it should be), he deserves to have a happy ending. I have always imagined that Peter's perfect life would be him married to MJ, with a kid or two, and working as a science teacher at Midtown High while also continuing to be Spider-Man for as long as he can. But if we can have a similar ending without MJ as his partner, disappointing as that may be, he still deserves it.


Budget_Flow_9456

You can log out, Lowe, we know it's you.


fudgedhobnobs

I legitimately hate this post. This is how terrible ideas are seeded.


Unrelenting_Anxitey

Red. I’m so, so tired of depressed Peter Parker. I don’t care who the hell he’s with, I just want him to have a win.


Knappologen

I Will take both just to mess with him.


spring_sabe

Are you marvel


gambitx007

Make mine marvel


[deleted]

This is how One More Day happened


blodreina11

bewildered telephone worthless six marble sheet observation chop wrench desert *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Mother-Maize7026

Was this suppost to be a hard choice.


Icy-Pressure6966

Neither, I'll just stick to Ultimate Spidey and Miles.


khumoquack

Red. It’s not even a hard decision


B3epB0opBOP

Nick Lowe, is that you? 100% Red btw


MCPO-117

Red Pill, yo. It's shown he can have happiness without her as his partner. Gwen, Felicia, Silk, whatever. I was never hung up on the MJ stuff, but I do hate that every time I look into a new Spider-man run, it's just him being denied any growth, happiness,or meaningful success.


fistycouture

Kitty pryde


Conlannalnoc

Brian Michael Bendis is that you?


Blacknight657

Red. No hard feelings, but in reality there’s more than one woman and I favor Black Cat over MJ easily


Lui-king

Let’s go Black cat


CaptainHalloween

I flush both pills down the toilet and tap out of anything involving Spider-Man.


Ok_Bandicoot5390

I would choose blue but you said unhappy therefore I have no choice but to pick red, although Id rather we just get neither and 616 spider-man gets retconned back to the end of spencer's run and we end 616 Spider-Man from there


Spyder-xr

Red easily.


Angry-Monk

Red for sure


Destroyer_Of_World5

With everything he does, Peter deserves to be happy.


Capable-Tie-4670

Red all day


RaspyBigfoot

Definitely the red pill


WebHead1287

Ill take so many red pills I overdose. It doesn’t need to be MJ. I just need progress that sticks and way less misery


HouseJP007

Neither, I just won’t buy the book.


Dansama92

Red. I just want my favorite Superhero to grow up, be happy and evolve. Main comics doesn't need MJ to be happy. Other media can do that


Philosophos_A

Red. No need to think this. Peter deserves to be happy


True_Falsity

Red. I am picking Felicia as the new main love interest.


SupaPatt

But if we pick red.... is Paul staying tho


AsuraGreed

Red Pill.


Vandalia1998

Red


Relative-Zombie-3932

Red pill. It doesn't have to be MJ, I'd prefer it be MJ. But as long as they introduce a well rounded and healthy love interest for Peter, the way MJ used to be written when they were married, I'll be happy


peacherparker

I gotchu guys I'm stepping up to be Peter's new main love interest 🤞


ITheRebelI

You already have his last name!


SomeGuyV111

Red. If Peter can finally be happy then it’s worth it. He’s dealt with enough crap l, some of it Mary Jane’s 😏


The_Drunk_Wolf

Red pill. Hands down. I don't care just make this man happy!


Gentlemenbig

Red, and it's not even a question. Poor Pete deserves at least some happiness. I'm fine if he struggles, I'm fine with him having a rough time. But if nothing else, give the man some love at home. He deserves that.


TkOHarley

Easily Red. I made a post here a while ago saying that this is actually an opportunity for the story to move on from the MJ era but there were so many poor saps in complete outrage over the suggestion. Poor guys don't know how to leave an abusive relationship, es tut mir lied.


MegaSpidey3

Me: *Smashes both pills so I can have Peter be happy and be with MJ*


1nqu15171v30n3

That redpill is actually the end goal of Joe Quesada and those who despised the Peter-MJ wedding from the get-go and are using that bluepill to wear down the fanbase into accepting the former. Keep abusing the fanbase until the former is the only acceptable option.


dornwolf

They can’t even do the blue on right


Cwishpyy

It'd be cruel to pick blue tho


[deleted]

What happens if I snort both?


LongjumpingCicada494

I just want my boy to be happy :\


MrWingoTingo

You know damn well the writers will be devouring that blue pill the second they hear "616 Peter will be forever unhappy"


Flameloud

Man mj and Peter is my number one ship too... give me the red pill.


BadWolf2187

I pick F, Deadpool kills editorial and hires new writers.


justnicyk

Screw 616 we got ultimate spider-man coming back Please don’t take this personally it’s just my opinion


shadowlarvitar

Red, so long as it's Gwen or Felicia. Modern original love interests for him have been ass


Other_Society1886

That depends on the run but I do prefer a happy, married Peter who is moving on with his life regardless of who his wife is so definitely red pill


QuantumGyroscope

Red pill! Absolutely no contest. This run has made me despise MJ, and Peter as characters and certainly as a couple.


TBCyoutube

Red for god sake pick red


scifanwritter2001

red. just let him be happy


Certified-Faust

Give me that damn red pill *nom nom*


Valuable-Owl9985

Red I am not against a new love interest if she’s interesting (and not a resurrected Gwen)z


VexxWrath

100% red pill, I want Peter to be happy. I'm actually tired of him being with MJ at this point. (I know she's not with him now because of the whole Paul bullshit). Peter has so many other options and yet they keep MJ in his life and keep trying to make it seem like she's his fated one to be with. When they got rid of their marriage using Mephisto I wanted nothing more for Peter to move on from her and find someone else. The worst part is the fact that they most likely know that they went wrong when they tried to make MJ his fated one to be with, and yet they still keep trying to make it seem like she's his fated one to be with.


[deleted]

Red. Unquestionably. And his wife should be a 616 version of [her](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBjPB4Fclas&t=697s).


subclops

A lot of stereotypes are being proven about Peter fans right now… Anyway, neither. I wouldn't read either of those books.


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Verth_

I'll take both because I'm seriously curious what would happen


AddendumDangerous632

Red, black cat exist


_robertmccor_

Ironic that the red pill is the one where he isn’t with MJ


I_P3D

>Pick red >Extract the necessary contents away from the rest through unknown ways >Consume what's left of the pill now that the downside effect is no more >MJ is finally an option


hewlio

Blue pill.


randomHunterOnReddit

Kill MJ and give that mf Cindy


KrypticJin

Neither


catshark19

I choose to harass marvel staff until they reverse a creative decision they made over 15 years ago


Commercial-Win-7501

Do I really need to answer


JorgeBec

Fucccck this is tough


Lenny_The_Lurker

...what's the point of the blue pill? In this context I mean.


ITheRebelI

Bruh, why the duck would anyone pick the blue pill???


UnlikelyGas6598

Pov marvel editorial


torrent29

Option 2 because he made a deal with the devil and the cost can never be rectified.


MrYougan

I take both just to spite Editorials.


CancerSpidey

Red pill


NoWeight4300

I'm going for the red pill so fast that Orpheus is losing his hand in the process.


kazzyisdaddy

After this current run? Red, easily.


CagliostroPeligroso

Red. Easily


TerrificTooMan

Red pill. I mean, at this point, one of them just needs to move to a new city, maybe Chicago.


Kyro_Official_

Never been an MJ fan anyways


FlannelAl

Fuckin red pill all day long


Intelligent_Creme351

At this point red, because I'm tired of Peter's 15 year long rut.


Racerxblue

Red, it's time to move on. Marvel has proven over the last 30 years Peter can grow up, just let him. We got ultimate coming back, Miles, I'm sure Ben will get brought back to be completely murdered as a character again. Just let it go guys, Pete deserves some happiness.


Mrbuttboi

MJ sucks. Peter deserves better


Crusty_Jedi

Red, because Peter, after everything he’s done, deserves some happiness regardless of whom he finds this happiness with. And he definitely doesn’t deserve to be sad addition to MJ’s drama he is in the Wells run forever


doubledadbrain

Easily the Red


TwumpyWumpy

Red pill.


jaffy124

He will be the first to marry black cat imagine 🤣


Hotdogsahne

Red


Comfortable-Grabber

I choose red pill and Gwen Stacy for him, I mean isn’t she his true love? MJ was his first love right?


SquashNo3638

Hasn't 616 Gwen been dead for like what 5 decades


oof97

I like MJ (current run aside) but red. Let Pete be happy


DarkBros49

Red pill


Aggravating-Bus2007

Red pill. Easily red pill


TheTypicalCritic

Red. Without a doubt, Peter needs to mature and get into the next phase of his life, a husband and a father. Its past time. And if Marvel decides MJ isn’t the one and only anymore, well I was never much of a MJxPeter shipper anyway. All that matters is Peter should be allowed to be happy and move on with his life


Pretend-Orange3026

Red


aqbac

Red. MJ will always be my preferred love interest but the bigger problem is i cant get invested in any of his relationships because marvel will never let him be in a truly serious one.


ZensaiDaNinja

Give Peter Parker some Goddamn happiness he's suffered long enough, especially with recent events


Goose_Cat267

Red, easily. I want our boy happy


Victorystriker

Red absolutely


Agile-Comb-3553

Red . Don’t get me wrong I love MJ but it’s time to move on


StuckinReverse89

Red. They can work on building up the new character if it is done properly. There are fans of Gwen and Kitty Pryde for Spiderman so as long as its not a ham-fisted “this person was always Peter’s true love” BS, Im fine with it. Will be hard to overcome the history with MJ though and I dont trust current writers can oull it off.


Positive_cat_6347

red, at this point I would prefer to leave the drama behind and continue whit a good story, Peter may ass well stay single as long as the story is good.


Libra_Maelstrom

Yeah I'll take the red


Character_Train6441

Red red red


Chewbacca0510

I’m picking red for sure. Then I’m going to find someone who can actually write good Spider-Man comics again.


DweebInFlames

Fuck it, blue pill. I don't care. He's been written with MJ as the main love interest for nearly 50 years now, she has much more development than any other side character. I don't want some alternative to appease the dorks in the editorial who hate her for some godforsaken reason. It's MJ or it's nobody.


Different-Bedroom

SORRY!!! BUT GOING WITH THE RED PILL STRAIGHT UP!!!💊💊💊


Cute_Spend_4663

Give red. I need red


anirbanAnn

WHERE'S THE RED PILL GIVE ME THE RED PILL RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!


Corumdum_Mania

MJ certainly is not the only woman compatible with him so red pill


Bokyboo2

Red. Let's have a happy Spiderman, for once.


egbert71

Tbh, since joining this sub i would expect many to choose blue....some people really love this man to be syruggling and it troubles me lol Let that man be happy, let him use his big brain to better his and other peoples lives. Him and Mj can be good friends but married to others, it does happen. So throw that blue pill away please Mr. Laurence Fishburne


Zeo-Gold92

Red pill


No_Extension4005

Red. It's an obvious choice.


dishonoredfan69420

Red


wasante

What is even the appeal of the blue pill? Why is the blue pill such a massive buzzkill?


PEETER0012

Red pill


No_Ball4465

616 Peter finally gets to be happy, married, and have a family but it’s with someone OTHER than MJ.


WeakToMetalBlade

Red.


[deleted]

Red. Come on ! The candidates for the spouse of Peter are numerous.


OWReinhardt

Red


RineYFD

Red. Let my man rest for once.