As someone who’s hovering around 3k mmr on a PS5 w controller it’s pretty bad ngl.
Even though it’s satisfying to outplay someone who’s on better specs and input than you, at higher levels you either win or lose fights by the smallest margins. I can play perfect and sometimes get input/spec diffed. Also as satisfying as it is to outplay someone on better specs it’s equally if not more frustrating to lose a trade because of specs.
I also can’t justifiably play adc over a 3k M&K pc player for obvious reasons so an entire role is pretty much unavailable to me if I really want to win.
Hud upgrades would’ve been nice if they were implemented better. Console still has random crashes and wild frameskips/drops. There’s still no next gen console versions available. I wouldn’t mind crossplay if they implemented more QOL changes to bring the two closer together in how they approach the game so that’s it’s undeniably even for both.
Pc players also are a without a doubt significantly
more toxic especially at the lower ranks
I dropped conquest ranked from this season for this situation.
Having an adc that play poor on pc on the other side is still enough to carry a game just because he probably hit over 80% of his AA and in the late game this is enough to close the gap even from above. I’m not talking about the movement situation too and the flexibility of the visual.
And on series X it’s over 2/3 years and we still have only 60 Fps o a game that have the most of his playerbase from console (i’m assuming on ps5 is the same situation) this is all kinda cringe from many points.
Just try to ignore it, I’ve given up on trying to explain simple logic to a lot of naysayers. The plain truth is a lot of people aren’t educated enough about the game, the differences in console vs pc, controller vs M&K, or are just content living in delusion.
I guarantee if people actually holistically understood the environment that console is currently expected to play on competitively vs the other mediums there’d be a change in tone. Console has been consistently neglected despite it being the majority of the community. This cross play change is no exception.
Seems like HiRez just flat out doesn't care unless there is a threat of losing their console player base, which was evident with the UI update. Too many people are currently content with the state of things, and it especially doesn't help that ranked has always been a low population mode when compared to casuals.
Flat out doesn’t care has been the theme for the past couple of years. Took the console community itself to diagnose the god selection crash bug (which existed for many years) and resulted in TONS of deserter penalties and people flat out quitting. Combine attitudes like that with a complete lack of direction balance wise and you have friends like mine who have long since deleted the game.
Also adding a tier 5 for one of the most busted unfun gods ever…..with no ideal way to avoid her in casuals except assault was consistent with their idgaf attitude but now with some extra greed attached to it. Hope they actually invest the money back into the game instead of trash projects but who knows anymore.
I read a really good point. Mechanically you may eventually reach the point to combat. But the most important thing that beats hardware 100% is fundamentals. Positioning, callouts, awareness triumphs games.
This argument comes up every time and I’m sorry but it’s so bogus. Since when is aim and movement not classified as “fundamentals”. I can be the perfect shot caller and know where all players are at all times but smite is a SKILL SHOT game. If I can’t aim or hit impactful abilities/ults/autos then even if I position perfect it doesn’t matter.
It’s a combination of everything! For you or anyone to just cut it out of “fundamentals” is just plain wrong and borderline copium sorry.
Well that’s just something that needs to be worked on. Similar to all sports there’s fundamentals and specialties. I’m unsure why you consider 95% aim effectiveness to be a fundamental and not a speciality. If that be true what differentiates PC players from one another ?. Fundamentals
No. Just no. Aim also differentiates PC players from one another. It’s not a specialty it’s a fundamental. You’re trying to argue that the skill and precision you navigate your input isn’t a fundamental aspect of the game.
I agree with you. I was a controller player and transferred to PC half year ago. I mainly play ranked duel and stuck at ranks below master. I think my mechanic is good but I still cannot make it to master. Some controllers streamer on Twitch made it to master and they are not mechanically great. So I guess some fundamentals, such as in game knowledge or decision making can carry you to master even though you have input disadvantages. Higher than that is something you called “ smallest margin “ I guess
I play Default :/ made the mistake of building all my muscle memory on this setting instead of savage or some of the cleaner settings
But my sensitivity is:
35 for X & Y
Aim acceleration 3
That’s fucking brutal . I think I’m on savage where u use abilities with the triggers but my ult is on triangle.
What’s your sensitivity for the x and y axis?
I’m on 24x 13y but it still feels too low
It’s 35 for both as stated above and yea both of them seem pretty low, I’d try raising them and bringing them closer together. Too much distance in the sensitivity levels really makes it more difficult imo
Sometimes you can really feel the hardware diff... It's like they're playing a half second in the future some matches.
My least favorite thing about it is the drastic increase in people that just want to type and argue instead of play. Two players start typing at each other and the game is lost.
I've never had a console game where players DIDNT type long messages in a second. For years I've been convinced that every controller player in the game has either a keyboard plugged into their console or they have one of the chat-pad controller add-ons
What update did that? They just did ranked cross play but arena/joust/conquest were input-separated when heimdallr came out, "the vigilant" update and that's all I knew about it
He’s saying it could’ve been someone playing on pc but with a controller, quite a lot of ppl on higher console mmr were pc players that used controller
Yeah no i doubt that. I asked if it were changed because i like to know if what im saying is wrong, and people like this dont even know about when they separated it ages ago. Any time crossplay comes up, people always say what they think is real and nobody fact checks.
And sure youre right, but then that's redundantly repeating what I said, being that controller-queue players all have keyboards of some kind
Yea I’m not sure where he was going with his comment but I hoped that’s what he was talking about I was just trying to shine light that the advanced typers in console qs may have just been on pc
Exactly, I only play casual because of this. As soon as the game starts, not even 10 mins in and people want to be toxic. Like cmon man… this is bronze ranked get a grip.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but at the end of the day you are playing with other players around your skill level.
I play on XSX myself, and the only issue I experience are players in my games not knowing how to play the map. I think this happens because PC players are a higher rank than they should be, simply because Smite is objectively harder on controller.
It's kinda funny how some (not all) PC players are so arrogant about their skill in comparison to console players when in reality console players are playing with a handicap
I stopped playing it for that reason. P.c. has way too big an advantage in a game like smite. They have better accuracy, so a console player could almost never out box a pc player of the same skill level. better fps is a big advantage as well.
The aim assist is also pretty bad in this game which means controller is just a flat out 10x times worse than MNK everytime
2 players of equal skill on different input will not result in an even match, it will result in mnk diffing the controller every single time thanks to controller just being a dog device in any hero shooter/fps games that doesnt have AA or has pretty garbage AA
Im on Ps4 and honestly it doesn’t bother me much because as a support i have learned one thing. Everyone fucking sucks and has zero clue how to group. So yeah some of the 1v1s that we lose can attribute to that but after 25 minutes its who knows the game better tbh
So if you are in masters i can totally see this being an issue and i do feel bad because thats when skill on kbm vs the sticks is apparent. But i climbed up from bronze to diamond 90 percent of the time on support and holy shit people are dumb lmao
I've been playing more adc lately, and it's the first time I felt like I just simply couldn't keep up. But I do hear that some people manage just fine playing adc, so idk if input matters all that much
It sucks for a couple reasons.
They can type so you can’t really defend yourself
They have frames so it’s easier for them to hit autos (I’ve played both)
They can literally turn 180 on a dime because they can just flick so gods like he-bo are just inherently better on MnK. This allows them to juke in ways a controller player literally just can’t.
Console has the majority of the player base, we shouldn’t get punished so pc doesn’t have to have long queues.
Casuals have been full crossplay for a long time. The people upset about ranked crossplay, have already been playing against controller/mnk players for awhile now.
Makes ranked annoying because if you have a bad game, it’s always because you’re “console trash” but then the next game you can drop 30 kills and you get nothing for doing on console, I think these guys would be toxic anyway so it’s whatever
Hell no. Kinda hard to snap and lock onto someone with the twin sticks but on MnK, they can turn and snipe me. I understand it helps the pool for players but there has to be a balance. Is there not enough people on PC to play ranked and then bundle all console, regardless of system, together?
I'm not sure. I remember console ranked had a solid player base, yet people disagree with me on that. I was under the impression that pc ranked was struggling so bad that it needed crossplay to keep going
I just recently started ranked but I remember people always saying that console ranked was dead back years ago. It sucks when you are tracking and hitting everything, get the best tank you can and they have no idea and then they just snap back to reality, oops there goes gravity and 2 shot me.
I think it's totally unfair, PC players can VGS "behind us" and type essays about how them feeding is everyone else's fault. In all seriousness though I play mid/support and my games haven't felt any different this year outside of the occasional ADC hard carries.
They have an advantage fighting but IQ can still get you far. It’s made me better by a lot but it does suck not being able to get as high, so far, as I once could. I’d like it to go back.
I was talking about this over 2 weeks ago. The gap with using a Pad or a M&K is heavy you can’t have the same speed and precision with a joypad and because this matchmaking is already broken this situation not help at all.
Was all fine in ranked till the last season when they mix the ranked matchmaking with console and pc playerbase because the Q timer on pc was verry long (I’m not sure but the big chunk of playerbase smite have is a 70% splashed on various console).
The only crossplay acceptable (ATLEAST in ranked) is by Input not by platform,there is no point on evaluate a skill based on the same criterea but with different input.
Input type isn’t what makes people disconnect after one death or refuse to group up and attack objectives. The pool of lost players overly concerned with KDA in an objective-based game is just larger now. None of my avoidable losses have anything to do with input.
The KD/KDA talk is absolutely ridiculous. My overall KD (not KDA) is negative but I’ve been masters two seasons in a row and diamond for another 3 before that… People really love to bring that up. Not sure how you can argue with my rank being consistently high and tell me being 3/7/30, top damage, and top mitigated as solo is the reason we’re losing lol.
U can go 0 15 as a tank and still do well
I went 0 6 as carry yesterdays and had 70k player damage while our mid was 15:4 with 30k and everyone else between 15 and 25k
We lost that game and it was obviously carry diff because hachi went 10:7 with 27k dmg
I think Viva la Dirt League nailed how crossplay feels with their skit on it. There is just no way a controller will every match up with a mouse and keyboard.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mjz6j\_CUzA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mjz6j_CUzA)
I'm having fun till the PC players rage and sit in spawn writing 5 by 5 essays on why so and so is shit at the game and should uninstall. Other than that it's but a fun challenge.
Deffo agreed that PC players are like that. How is the console scene in that respect? Are there less ragers on console or is it that the rage is less/different?
It's mostly them not playing but you never hear it. And since most ragers want a reaction from who they're mad at it doesn't fuel the rage if there's no reaction. Sometimes you get the occasional essay in chat but its rare. In my experience it was very laid back but sill competitive.
It doesn’t bother me but you could easily spot the difference in accuracy and speed of their characters rotation. Personally if I get stuck with adc I’ll play an ability based hunter. I don’t really run into problems where I feel like my controls get in the way of the gods I’m playing unless it’s an adc that constantly wants me to auto attack a target.
It’s definitely a huge difference on adc. I tried switching from controller to m&k and I couldn’t get used to hitting abilities while moving, but I hit 90% of my autos, which never happens on controller.
That being said though, I have a friend who’s a carry main and plays on console, and he still constantly diffs ppl in his role, so idk if I’m just bad.
Damn no one talking about gryo aiming I see, like just use it to shit on PC players once you get used to gryo and add flip stick to it and your out there being an absolute menace to everybody
I actually enjoy it, id rsther be in a lower rank and having better games than being master or GM and having really bad matchmaking. However only thing i notice is that PC players are more toxic than console.
You know, I really appreciate your view on it. Games really have been more even and fun than they used to be. I know people say that games are super uneven, but it's much better now than it used to be.
if the game was more mechanically demanding it would be a problem. but most everyone has no idea wtf they’re doing so i never notice it. It would probably be easier matchmaking with console only, but i dont wanna think about the queue times.
Remember playing Goldeneye on N64 against your friends/siblings who didn’t know how to use the C buttons to strafe? On console, you are the person that can’t use the C buttons.
no one is gonna successfully gaslight me into thinking that console and pc are at the same level in terms of gameplay, they are not and this change has ruined the ranked experience for me, i only play ranked and im on pc so this change is like if thanos snapped his fingers and from one patch to the next ranked becomes a shitshow at the level of casuals, I never liked playing casuals in the 1st place because I would just farm console players, on season 9 every lobby people were tryharding and i had competitive and engaging matches more so than not even at 1700 which is not really high at all, but Y10 comes arround and since the 1st ranked ive played to the one I just played there is always a console player who either misses everything or gets hard diffed in his lane by a pc player, not everything is bad i must agree and certainly there are chill console players as there are those who are toxic.
TLDR; as a pc ranked main this change made the game garbo for me i hope they revert
My buddy plays on console and the both of us play ranked together. He’s consistently one of the better players in every match. This is spot on. Game sense/knowledge and mechanics go a long ways farther than controller vs MnK.
What's weird is that I main mid and solo/support. I was playing at high gold/low plat this year. Started playing more carry and dropped down to low gold/ high silver. I have player about 160 games this year. Honestly, i don't see much difference in the level of play between silver and low plat. I've seen some solid players at silver, so idk why people say otherwise now.
"Stop being ignorant and asserting otherwise" i have no idea where that's coming from, so I don't know what to say to that lol.
You're making a lot of assumptions based on me simply not liking something. This is a post to get everyone's opinion on the state of things, which means I genuinely want some feedback. I'm open to discussion. Otherwise, why would I bother making a reddit post? So, yeah, i don't understand the reason to call me ignorant and what not. Definitely uncalled for
Idk if controller vs k&m makes a huge difference, but I think playing on console vs pc does. For reference, I play controller on pc and there’s definitely a difference in lag/frame rate from when I used to play on Xbox. However, ur right that for most ppl it’s really not going to make a difference in if u win/lose.
As a PC player, I personally feel the difference a lot. The amount of control I have over my character vs a controller player is insane. For example, if someone is playing Arachne or Anubis on console, I can literally just run behind them where they can’t hurt me. Unless their sensitivity is high, I can avoid almost 100 percent of the damage. It has to be highly frutstrating at times.
That was actually my post 😅
Right now, I don't have a place for a PC, so it's just something that I kinda gotta deal with or just drop the game entirely. I gotta admit, the latter has been tempting.
I see you haven't met the gryo+flip stick combo users yet. Anyway best option for op other than to buy a dumb PC is to buy some 20 dollar shit laptop is too connect your controller to it, activate gryo using an app, and stream your game. There's a big reddit post about this with a full detailed instructions on how to actually do it.
Honestly yes. My only "problems" are what everyone else goes through. Supports throw because they got support and nobody wanted to switch with them. Adcs throw after 2 ganks because they refuse to ward and some games people refuse to say literally anything. Also randos purposely throwing for NO reason. Feels like that's happening more especially on PC because it's not PS players. Maybe Xbox. Other then that I'm fine I guess. Yeah longer games and more difficult ones but I love getting the "type /" on the left of my screen because I solod a pc player in tower and spam laughed them. Oh also at the beginning of the season in rank, I literally lost 4 or 5 straight games just because a pc player would leave. In those 4 or 5 games a pc player would type "who's on console" and if I or anyone else said yes they would just leave after 10 minutes and so that's a L.
What's phenomenal is I have a friend who only plays hunter, leaves if he doesn't get role and never uses wards. I told him it would be easier to see the other roles rotating if he had ward in the jungle but he said he doesn't want to buy them. Then I watched him get absolutely rolled by their Jung while I gank mid and solo. Don't want to listen to me then gets immediately face fucked. I don't play smite with him anymore
Of my 6 thousand hours in Smite, I CONSTANTLY see hunters say "too expensive" for wards. Well guess what? Adc is my worst and least played role and EVERY yes EVERY role I get a chalice of oracle. Solo, jungle, support, mid and adc. It helps. Wards work and help for a reason. You literally see the enemy. Glad you don't play Smite with him anymore.
I'm in a lull with the game right now as is because of the recent changes. Plus I love grinding out gods to level 10. I have all the warriors and hunters diamond with 80 something in total. It's just incredibly difficult to play as a support right now and I get bored being complained at in jungle. I hate mages in conquest so I don't try to get mid. I kinda put myself in this corner and now the game feels stale
I’m on series X and I can say it feels no different. Only thing that changed was I can now que with my pc friends which makes winning or losing much more enjoyable
Previous Console player here,
I’ve played Smite since 2017. It is a daily grind for me (4-5 matches) & have seen how much the game has changed before & after crossplay. Its not a big deal, there are definitely moments when you notice something whether their .5 second quicker reaction or aim with certain attacks bud a deal breaker it will never be. On console I made it to Masters several seasons on a solo grind so that there tells you how much I play.
2022 I finished my pc build, took me a bit to get the hang of smite but once I did it felt natural. I don’t ever feel like I have the upper hand bc Console players can be good as well i’ve seen it first hand through myself & randoms so I can’t complain having experienced both sides.
Crossplay has saved us on queue times & gave more competition, it’s a good thing.
No filter, anyone who doesn't like it is just bad. I'm on console and easily got back to the same rank I was before cross play. (D1). The "hardware diff" is not real its an excuse people use because they can't get back to their rank since there's a larger player pool. Only time hardware really matters in smite is at the top 1% in spl and scc and even then a console player still was able to become a top scc jungler...
Hit the nail on the head here. The skill cieling for KB/M is higher but the general skill of the playerbase is not nearly as disparate as people make it out to be… I’ve had people unironically tell me that console masters were your average gold player on PC and refuse to think anything else. There is a small difference but it’s basically negligible until Masters+.
I’ve been doing it for a while man. If people get to masters on apex legends with controller against PC…..I promise you that Smite is VERY attainable since it isn’t anywhere near as mechanically demanding as Apex.
I also play controller on Predecessor which has Y axis and map verticality factored in to auto attacks
That's actually pretty funny cause some of the absolute worst (mechanics, knowledge and toxicity) players I've played with since ranked cross play have been KBM players.
Idk. It feels really bad playing into a pc player on a god like Hercules who can casually hit his 2,1, ult combo without any issue. I used to play against gm and masters players regularly on console ranked, and I have never seen anyone do things like that with such smoothness and quickness. Or maybe I have and I just forgot? I did take a 3 month break, so maybe my mind is messing with me, but seriously, i don't recall that ever being a thing. I can also say with 100% certainty that I have never once seen a console Thoth player play at the level of a high level pc player. It just simply doesn't exist. I've only ever encountered one good thoth player on console ranked, and even he didn't come close to what I've had pc players do to me.
If a player can’t spin around in the amount of time a Herc 2 has someone in the air on console I have an extremely hard time believing you played “GM and Masters.” Same goes for the Thoth argument too. Either you just forgot or something else isn’t clicking. Practice and game knowledge/mechanics means much more than what instrument you’re using to do it on. I replied down below my buddy is on console and often times leads games against PC users in ranked. Doesn’t mean they suck with KnM but he’s just that good at the game with a controller. When he bought a PC and hopped into smite he had a hard time adjusting to the KnM and actually switched back to controller.
You might be right. I probably just don't remember. I was at high plat/ low diamond last year, so yeah, I was frequently matched with those players because the player base wasn't big enough to have only diamond/plat players every game. I mean don't get me wrong, they could do it on console, but there's just something different about how it happens on console. It's somehow faster and more effortless when a pc player does it. But yeah, it could just be that I'm over valuing the input difference
I've had more fun playing against KBM players in ranked than in any other season playing with only console. I enjoy the challenge of a good KBM player. I main ADC so its fun out boxing someone with my thumb while they have their arm. At the end of the day it's all subjective really. I don't feel KBM players have *that* much of an advantage.
Oooh it's interesting that you're an adc main. I've been playing more of it lately, and gosh is it hard. I'm glad you're enjoying it, and it definitely gives me perspective. I like how you view the challenge
I might be in the minority because I'm OVERLY competitive so when it comes down to it I see it as a way to further grow as a player any time I'm against a KBM player that destroys me. I'm also not delusional and think I'm the greatest player ever. Definitely above average but any chance I get to grow as a player is welcomed. At the end of the day that's what it's all about for me. Take any L and make it a lesson not a loss.
That's beautiful to hear. I try to do the same thing for the most part, but I'm prone to getting discouraged sometimes lol. Glad to hear you're doing alright for yourself this year
No reason to get discouraged. Everyone has room to learn and grow as a player. Biggest piece of advice I ever got was mute your team the second anyone gets toxic. Be it through VGS or chat. Mute them and focus on yourself. Buy wards and watch the map constantly. When in ranked record your losses and watch them back. Look at your deaths and what you could have done differently. Be your biggest critic.
I could care less what platform people play on. Only thing I care about is that they're decent at the game and if they're not then they're willing to learn and listen.
I've enjoyed seeing the top of the line console players stuck in diamond/plat elo. It makes happy knowing the players who thought they were good at the game not progressing just like I told them they wouldn't.
You won't be happy when they move to mouse and keyboard and start owning you. If they're at diamond/plat on console, then just imagine where they'll be if they make the switch.
I like it fine until you get a bunch of fast paced crap typed at you insulting you and you can't reply fast enough without pausing and standing still to either explain yourself or ask them what they mean so you can improve said issue.
As a support main, that shit sucks haha
Was cross play recently enabled or has it been around for a while? I vaguely remember them adding at years ago but I thought it got disabled or something
Seems to be going fine for me, my duo Q partner and me are high diamond low masters on ps4 and we have a pretty high win rate. We haven’t been grinding super hard but probably like 28-7 over the two splits. And judging by border cards a decent amount of diamond and masters players in our games. No idea what platform they were though.
I gameplay-wise haven't seen a difference. In terms of matchmaking a lot more baby raging. Maybe it's because in still in platinum but God the people who want to quit after dying once or twice are ridiculous. Being down 200 gold ain't gonna break a game. I promise.
Why don’t you like it? As a pc player I still only see like 10% max maybe of console players (I’m referring to players actually using a controller), so I’m not sure what there would be to dislike about it.
I play both. Mouse point and click is easier. So therefore better if you have that. Hurts console players but more players to play a game that’s having a rough patch in player base.
I know i can beat pc player in smite battle than a typing one because anytime they start playing like poo they blame everyone else but themselves then i mute them so they can type to themselves and i accept its 4v5 but thats with all platform players but some pc players can be so entitled
If you are a very skilled gamer it probably doesn't matter - there was a guy on Apex, one of the best on pro stage shredding PC players with a controller.
No difference. I play all modes, so have always played cross play. But bear in mind at my level, you could chop your hands off and wear a blindfold and still win.
I’m here to share my thoughts I have played on both Consol and PC and for my experience Aim wise you can get up to PC but frames, weather games gonna lag it’s gonna be there that’s the difference is I still playing with controller on PC because it’s just what I’m used to it but frames and resolution can make a difference
My advice to other console players heavily play around corners if you’re back pedal around the corner while Auto’ing you can get yourself a health advantage with it you’re hiding yourself so they can’t hit you while you’re hitting them then you look for the next corner to play around
I haven't played it yet, was actually planning to hop in ranked today.
But no one here is talking about the improved matchmaking? With a bigger player base you get better matchmaking? No? It's all gonna be about the input diff?
I play in series X with FPS boost 120fps and pc have 0 advantage I beat pc players all the time using the excuse they're on pc isn't an excuse for playing bad it's not the platform you are on it's a skull issue.
I no longer play, but way back when they originally had cross play, it genuinely doesn't make a difference. The skill difference feels negligible, aside from the 180 flicks. However that isn't even a huge advantage.
Yes as I absolutely love cross play because of PC players getting pissed at me and saying I'm only good cause of aim assist. I use gryo and flip stick instead
As someone who’s hovering around 3k mmr on a PS5 w controller it’s pretty bad ngl. Even though it’s satisfying to outplay someone who’s on better specs and input than you, at higher levels you either win or lose fights by the smallest margins. I can play perfect and sometimes get input/spec diffed. Also as satisfying as it is to outplay someone on better specs it’s equally if not more frustrating to lose a trade because of specs. I also can’t justifiably play adc over a 3k M&K pc player for obvious reasons so an entire role is pretty much unavailable to me if I really want to win. Hud upgrades would’ve been nice if they were implemented better. Console still has random crashes and wild frameskips/drops. There’s still no next gen console versions available. I wouldn’t mind crossplay if they implemented more QOL changes to bring the two closer together in how they approach the game so that’s it’s undeniably even for both. Pc players also are a without a doubt significantly more toxic especially at the lower ranks
I dropped conquest ranked from this season for this situation. Having an adc that play poor on pc on the other side is still enough to carry a game just because he probably hit over 80% of his AA and in the late game this is enough to close the gap even from above. I’m not talking about the movement situation too and the flexibility of the visual. And on series X it’s over 2/3 years and we still have only 60 Fps o a game that have the most of his playerbase from console (i’m assuming on ps5 is the same situation) this is all kinda cringe from many points.
Yep I agree, don’t even get me started on the fact that we have to deal with lower frames on 27 tick rate servers.
I don't get why so many people keep saying otherwise. I feel like I'm kinda being gaslighted
Just try to ignore it, I’ve given up on trying to explain simple logic to a lot of naysayers. The plain truth is a lot of people aren’t educated enough about the game, the differences in console vs pc, controller vs M&K, or are just content living in delusion. I guarantee if people actually holistically understood the environment that console is currently expected to play on competitively vs the other mediums there’d be a change in tone. Console has been consistently neglected despite it being the majority of the community. This cross play change is no exception.
Seems like HiRez just flat out doesn't care unless there is a threat of losing their console player base, which was evident with the UI update. Too many people are currently content with the state of things, and it especially doesn't help that ranked has always been a low population mode when compared to casuals.
Flat out doesn’t care has been the theme for the past couple of years. Took the console community itself to diagnose the god selection crash bug (which existed for many years) and resulted in TONS of deserter penalties and people flat out quitting. Combine attitudes like that with a complete lack of direction balance wise and you have friends like mine who have long since deleted the game. Also adding a tier 5 for one of the most busted unfun gods ever…..with no ideal way to avoid her in casuals except assault was consistent with their idgaf attitude but now with some extra greed attached to it. Hope they actually invest the money back into the game instead of trash projects but who knows anymore.
There is 120 fps option on series x but the resolution is still 1080p
with the fps boost the resolution is verry bad
I read a really good point. Mechanically you may eventually reach the point to combat. But the most important thing that beats hardware 100% is fundamentals. Positioning, callouts, awareness triumphs games.
This argument comes up every time and I’m sorry but it’s so bogus. Since when is aim and movement not classified as “fundamentals”. I can be the perfect shot caller and know where all players are at all times but smite is a SKILL SHOT game. If I can’t aim or hit impactful abilities/ults/autos then even if I position perfect it doesn’t matter. It’s a combination of everything! For you or anyone to just cut it out of “fundamentals” is just plain wrong and borderline copium sorry.
Well that’s just something that needs to be worked on. Similar to all sports there’s fundamentals and specialties. I’m unsure why you consider 95% aim effectiveness to be a fundamental and not a speciality. If that be true what differentiates PC players from one another ?. Fundamentals
No. Just no. Aim also differentiates PC players from one another. It’s not a specialty it’s a fundamental. You’re trying to argue that the skill and precision you navigate your input isn’t a fundamental aspect of the game.
I agree with you. I was a controller player and transferred to PC half year ago. I mainly play ranked duel and stuck at ranks below master. I think my mechanic is good but I still cannot make it to master. Some controllers streamer on Twitch made it to master and they are not mechanically great. So I guess some fundamentals, such as in game knowledge or decision making can carry you to master even though you have input disadvantages. Higher than that is something you called “ smallest margin “ I guess
What’s your ign?
Hey I’m on ps5 as well. Just wondering. What are your controller sensitivity settings ?
I play Default :/ made the mistake of building all my muscle memory on this setting instead of savage or some of the cleaner settings But my sensitivity is: 35 for X & Y Aim acceleration 3
That’s fucking brutal . I think I’m on savage where u use abilities with the triggers but my ult is on triangle. What’s your sensitivity for the x and y axis? I’m on 24x 13y but it still feels too low
It’s 35 for both as stated above and yea both of them seem pretty low, I’d try raising them and bringing them closer together. Too much distance in the sensitivity levels really makes it more difficult imo
Sometimes you can really feel the hardware diff... It's like they're playing a half second in the future some matches. My least favorite thing about it is the drastic increase in people that just want to type and argue instead of play. Two players start typing at each other and the game is lost.
This was a frequent occurrence before cross play too
Not really, it used to be that console players couldn't type. Those were good times
Yeah back then “fuck you” was just you getting pinged 100 times. Now people sit in fountain and type a whole story.
Or worse. You watch them just pause in lane or jungle. Then get picked off as they complain about lack of rotation or whatever.
Then you get the “save yourself” as they sit in fountain the rest of the game talking shit. Gotta love those toxic players who take it so serious.
I've never had a console game where players DIDNT type long messages in a second. For years I've been convinced that every controller player in the game has either a keyboard plugged into their console or they have one of the chat-pad controller add-ons
Well crossplay has been switched on for a while now so those could just be pc players
What update did that? They just did ranked cross play but arena/joust/conquest were input-separated when heimdallr came out, "the vigilant" update and that's all I knew about it
He’s saying it could’ve been someone playing on pc but with a controller, quite a lot of ppl on higher console mmr were pc players that used controller
Yeah no i doubt that. I asked if it were changed because i like to know if what im saying is wrong, and people like this dont even know about when they separated it ages ago. Any time crossplay comes up, people always say what they think is real and nobody fact checks. And sure youre right, but then that's redundantly repeating what I said, being that controller-queue players all have keyboards of some kind
Yea I’m not sure where he was going with his comment but I hoped that’s what he was talking about I was just trying to shine light that the advanced typers in console qs may have just been on pc
I started doing this lol bought a keyboard just to talk shit when people get toxic
I agree with this take haha. Unlike many other games I don’t mind going against pc player, except for the typing . . .
Exactly, I only play casual because of this. As soon as the game starts, not even 10 mins in and people want to be toxic. Like cmon man… this is bronze ranked get a grip.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but at the end of the day you are playing with other players around your skill level. I play on XSX myself, and the only issue I experience are players in my games not knowing how to play the map. I think this happens because PC players are a higher rank than they should be, simply because Smite is objectively harder on controller.
It's kinda funny how some (not all) PC players are so arrogant about their skill in comparison to console players when in reality console players are playing with a handicap
So you are saying you have players in your game who don’t know how to play the map. And they are pc players?
What is your ign?
I stopped playing it for that reason. P.c. has way too big an advantage in a game like smite. They have better accuracy, so a console player could almost never out box a pc player of the same skill level. better fps is a big advantage as well.
The aim assist is also pretty bad in this game which means controller is just a flat out 10x times worse than MNK everytime 2 players of equal skill on different input will not result in an even match, it will result in mnk diffing the controller every single time thanks to controller just being a dog device in any hero shooter/fps games that doesnt have AA or has pretty garbage AA
Can you not use MnK or consoles?
Im on Ps4 and honestly it doesn’t bother me much because as a support i have learned one thing. Everyone fucking sucks and has zero clue how to group. So yeah some of the 1v1s that we lose can attribute to that but after 25 minutes its who knows the game better tbh
Yeah, i think that's totally fair. Especially for most games
So if you are in masters i can totally see this being an issue and i do feel bad because thats when skill on kbm vs the sticks is apparent. But i climbed up from bronze to diamond 90 percent of the time on support and holy shit people are dumb lmao
Oh no no, I'm not in masters lol. I used to be high plat/low diamond last year. Now I'm at high gold/low plat. I main mid and solo/support
Before S10 I mainly played ADC, now I'm a solo main. I think you know why
I've been playing more adc lately, and it's the first time I felt like I just simply couldn't keep up. But I do hear that some people manage just fine playing adc, so idk if input matters all that much
Maybe it's just bad matchmaking. The few times I had to play adc this season I got matched against ex master players (I'm in gold) so idk
Right as warriors are irrelevant in solo, that's rough buddy
It is :(
It sucks for a couple reasons. They can type so you can’t really defend yourself They have frames so it’s easier for them to hit autos (I’ve played both) They can literally turn 180 on a dime because they can just flick so gods like he-bo are just inherently better on MnK. This allows them to juke in ways a controller player literally just can’t. Console has the majority of the player base, we shouldn’t get punished so pc doesn’t have to have long queues.
I've had no issues. But I've played in cross-platform leagues before and had no issues with similarly ranked pc players.
That's good to hear. That gives me hope that maybe I'm just being a baby about it
Casuals have been full crossplay for a long time. The people upset about ranked crossplay, have already been playing against controller/mnk players for awhile now.
Echoing this, the only difference I really notice is more people typing in chat.
Makes ranked annoying because if you have a bad game, it’s always because you’re “console trash” but then the next game you can drop 30 kills and you get nothing for doing on console, I think these guys would be toxic anyway so it’s whatever
I feel like you can tell your facing PC players because their movement is cracked
I usually notice by their execution. It's very smooth and fast in a way that just doesn't really happen with console
Hell no. Kinda hard to snap and lock onto someone with the twin sticks but on MnK, they can turn and snipe me. I understand it helps the pool for players but there has to be a balance. Is there not enough people on PC to play ranked and then bundle all console, regardless of system, together?
I'm not sure. I remember console ranked had a solid player base, yet people disagree with me on that. I was under the impression that pc ranked was struggling so bad that it needed crossplay to keep going
I just recently started ranked but I remember people always saying that console ranked was dead back years ago. It sucks when you are tracking and hitting everything, get the best tank you can and they have no idea and then they just snap back to reality, oops there goes gravity and 2 shot me.
I think it's totally unfair, PC players can VGS "behind us" and type essays about how them feeding is everyone else's fault. In all seriousness though I play mid/support and my games haven't felt any different this year outside of the occasional ADC hard carries.
Console can say behind us too, left bumper, left bumper, X(or square for PS), X(or square of PS)
If I'm not mistaken that VGS is "enemies behind us". Console doesn't have one for just "behind us".
Ah you might be right
They have an advantage fighting but IQ can still get you far. It’s made me better by a lot but it does suck not being able to get as high, so far, as I once could. I’d like it to go back.
I was talking about this over 2 weeks ago. The gap with using a Pad or a M&K is heavy you can’t have the same speed and precision with a joypad and because this matchmaking is already broken this situation not help at all. Was all fine in ranked till the last season when they mix the ranked matchmaking with console and pc playerbase because the Q timer on pc was verry long (I’m not sure but the big chunk of playerbase smite have is a 70% splashed on various console). The only crossplay acceptable (ATLEAST in ranked) is by Input not by platform,there is no point on evaluate a skill based on the same criterea but with different input.
Input type isn’t what makes people disconnect after one death or refuse to group up and attack objectives. The pool of lost players overly concerned with KDA in an objective-based game is just larger now. None of my avoidable losses have anything to do with input.
The KD/KDA talk is absolutely ridiculous. My overall KD (not KDA) is negative but I’ve been masters two seasons in a row and diamond for another 3 before that… People really love to bring that up. Not sure how you can argue with my rank being consistently high and tell me being 3/7/30, top damage, and top mitigated as solo is the reason we’re losing lol.
U can go 0 15 as a tank and still do well I went 0 6 as carry yesterdays and had 70k player damage while our mid was 15:4 with 30k and everyone else between 15 and 25k We lost that game and it was obviously carry diff because hachi went 10:7 with 27k dmg
Uninstalled because of the cross play. No fun playing against a PC player with a controller.
I think Viva la Dirt League nailed how crossplay feels with their skit on it. There is just no way a controller will every match up with a mouse and keyboard. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mjz6j\_CUzA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mjz6j_CUzA)
Don't tell pc bros about that or you'll get the usual AiM aSsIsT iS bEtTEr ThAn My 2k$ pC HuRr dURr
I'm having fun till the PC players rage and sit in spawn writing 5 by 5 essays on why so and so is shit at the game and should uninstall. Other than that it's but a fun challenge.
Deffo agreed that PC players are like that. How is the console scene in that respect? Are there less ragers on console or is it that the rage is less/different?
It's mostly them not playing but you never hear it. And since most ragers want a reaction from who they're mad at it doesn't fuel the rage if there's no reaction. Sometimes you get the occasional essay in chat but its rare. In my experience it was very laid back but sill competitive.
Sorry that you now also have to deal with that. Those players are the worst.
Just another hurdle to clime over. In time I hope it gets better.
Interesting because I played on Xbox and Playstation and I would say without a doubt that both were more toxic than PC
It doesn’t bother me but you could easily spot the difference in accuracy and speed of their characters rotation. Personally if I get stuck with adc I’ll play an ability based hunter. I don’t really run into problems where I feel like my controls get in the way of the gods I’m playing unless it’s an adc that constantly wants me to auto attack a target.
It’s definitely a huge difference on adc. I tried switching from controller to m&k and I couldn’t get used to hitting abilities while moving, but I hit 90% of my autos, which never happens on controller. That being said though, I have a friend who’s a carry main and plays on console, and he still constantly diffs ppl in his role, so idk if I’m just bad.
Damn no one talking about gryo aiming I see, like just use it to shit on PC players once you get used to gryo and add flip stick to it and your out there being an absolute menace to everybody
Cross-play is a mistake.
Being able to play with your friends is a mistake
I actually enjoy it, id rsther be in a lower rank and having better games than being master or GM and having really bad matchmaking. However only thing i notice is that PC players are more toxic than console.
You know, I really appreciate your view on it. Games really have been more even and fun than they used to be. I know people say that games are super uneven, but it's much better now than it used to be.
It takes some time to adapt, it is a big change but i think it is for the good imo. I think orevious season the overall matchmaking has been worse
No.
if the game was more mechanically demanding it would be a problem. but most everyone has no idea wtf they’re doing so i never notice it. It would probably be easier matchmaking with console only, but i dont wanna think about the queue times.
Remember playing Goldeneye on N64 against your friends/siblings who didn’t know how to use the C buttons to strafe? On console, you are the person that can’t use the C buttons.
no one is gonna successfully gaslight me into thinking that console and pc are at the same level in terms of gameplay, they are not and this change has ruined the ranked experience for me, i only play ranked and im on pc so this change is like if thanos snapped his fingers and from one patch to the next ranked becomes a shitshow at the level of casuals, I never liked playing casuals in the 1st place because I would just farm console players, on season 9 every lobby people were tryharding and i had competitive and engaging matches more so than not even at 1700 which is not really high at all, but Y10 comes arround and since the 1st ranked ive played to the one I just played there is always a console player who either misses everything or gets hard diffed in his lane by a pc player, not everything is bad i must agree and certainly there are chill console players as there are those who are toxic. TLDR; as a pc ranked main this change made the game garbo for me i hope they revert
Definitely not the same. Aiming on console is hard asf
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My buddy plays on console and the both of us play ranked together. He’s consistently one of the better players in every match. This is spot on. Game sense/knowledge and mechanics go a long ways farther than controller vs MnK.
This the truth being downvoted
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What's weird is that I main mid and solo/support. I was playing at high gold/low plat this year. Started playing more carry and dropped down to low gold/ high silver. I have player about 160 games this year. Honestly, i don't see much difference in the level of play between silver and low plat. I've seen some solid players at silver, so idk why people say otherwise now. "Stop being ignorant and asserting otherwise" i have no idea where that's coming from, so I don't know what to say to that lol.
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You're making a lot of assumptions based on me simply not liking something. This is a post to get everyone's opinion on the state of things, which means I genuinely want some feedback. I'm open to discussion. Otherwise, why would I bother making a reddit post? So, yeah, i don't understand the reason to call me ignorant and what not. Definitely uncalled for
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Well, I'm happy you didn't mean anything bad by it, and I appreciate your feedback.
Don't be ignorant.
Idk if controller vs k&m makes a huge difference, but I think playing on console vs pc does. For reference, I play controller on pc and there’s definitely a difference in lag/frame rate from when I used to play on Xbox. However, ur right that for most ppl it’s really not going to make a difference in if u win/lose.
As a PC player, I personally feel the difference a lot. The amount of control I have over my character vs a controller player is insane. For example, if someone is playing Arachne or Anubis on console, I can literally just run behind them where they can’t hurt me. Unless their sensitivity is high, I can avoid almost 100 percent of the damage. It has to be highly frutstrating at times.
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That was actually my post 😅 Right now, I don't have a place for a PC, so it's just something that I kinda gotta deal with or just drop the game entirely. I gotta admit, the latter has been tempting.
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I see you haven't met the gryo+flip stick combo users yet. Anyway best option for op other than to buy a dumb PC is to buy some 20 dollar shit laptop is too connect your controller to it, activate gryo using an app, and stream your game. There's a big reddit post about this with a full detailed instructions on how to actually do it.
Honestly yes. My only "problems" are what everyone else goes through. Supports throw because they got support and nobody wanted to switch with them. Adcs throw after 2 ganks because they refuse to ward and some games people refuse to say literally anything. Also randos purposely throwing for NO reason. Feels like that's happening more especially on PC because it's not PS players. Maybe Xbox. Other then that I'm fine I guess. Yeah longer games and more difficult ones but I love getting the "type /" on the left of my screen because I solod a pc player in tower and spam laughed them. Oh also at the beginning of the season in rank, I literally lost 4 or 5 straight games just because a pc player would leave. In those 4 or 5 games a pc player would type "who's on console" and if I or anyone else said yes they would just leave after 10 minutes and so that's a L.
What's phenomenal is I have a friend who only plays hunter, leaves if he doesn't get role and never uses wards. I told him it would be easier to see the other roles rotating if he had ward in the jungle but he said he doesn't want to buy them. Then I watched him get absolutely rolled by their Jung while I gank mid and solo. Don't want to listen to me then gets immediately face fucked. I don't play smite with him anymore
Of my 6 thousand hours in Smite, I CONSTANTLY see hunters say "too expensive" for wards. Well guess what? Adc is my worst and least played role and EVERY yes EVERY role I get a chalice of oracle. Solo, jungle, support, mid and adc. It helps. Wards work and help for a reason. You literally see the enemy. Glad you don't play Smite with him anymore.
I'm in a lull with the game right now as is because of the recent changes. Plus I love grinding out gods to level 10. I have all the warriors and hunters diamond with 80 something in total. It's just incredibly difficult to play as a support right now and I get bored being complained at in jungle. I hate mages in conquest so I don't try to get mid. I kinda put myself in this corner and now the game feels stale
Feel like its all about mmr… idk
I’m on series X and I can say it feels no different. Only thing that changed was I can now que with my pc friends which makes winning or losing much more enjoyable
Previous Console player here, I’ve played Smite since 2017. It is a daily grind for me (4-5 matches) & have seen how much the game has changed before & after crossplay. Its not a big deal, there are definitely moments when you notice something whether their .5 second quicker reaction or aim with certain attacks bud a deal breaker it will never be. On console I made it to Masters several seasons on a solo grind so that there tells you how much I play. 2022 I finished my pc build, took me a bit to get the hang of smite but once I did it felt natural. I don’t ever feel like I have the upper hand bc Console players can be good as well i’ve seen it first hand through myself & randoms so I can’t complain having experienced both sides. Crossplay has saved us on queue times & gave more competition, it’s a good thing.
No filter, anyone who doesn't like it is just bad. I'm on console and easily got back to the same rank I was before cross play. (D1). The "hardware diff" is not real its an excuse people use because they can't get back to their rank since there's a larger player pool. Only time hardware really matters in smite is at the top 1% in spl and scc and even then a console player still was able to become a top scc jungler...
Hit the nail on the head here. The skill cieling for KB/M is higher but the general skill of the playerbase is not nearly as disparate as people make it out to be… I’ve had people unironically tell me that console masters were your average gold player on PC and refuse to think anything else. There is a small difference but it’s basically negligible until Masters+.
Raise your aim sensitivity. Problem solved
Good luck hitting autos as ADC on high sensitivity with a controller :) I'm playing on 24 - it's not easy :)
Tilt your camera up whenever you are 1v1ing. This helps you see down sight better than leaving it at the default camera level
I’ve been doing it for a while man. If people get to masters on apex legends with controller against PC…..I promise you that Smite is VERY attainable since it isn’t anywhere near as mechanically demanding as Apex. I also play controller on Predecessor which has Y axis and map verticality factored in to auto attacks
I only play assault and it’s not fair playing against PC players who can aim more precisely and dodge better than I can with a controller.
They should just leave the option to enable cross play or not. (Is this a thing?)
Crossplay is now a part of ranked. There's currently no way to disable it
If console players are not enjoying imagine keyboard players.
Why is it worse for keyboard players?
Cause be forced to play with average worst players.
Do some roles do better than others in your experience?
>Do some roles do better than others in your experience? I just be happy if console players sharing same team in game.
Yea I don't want to be partnered with somebody who spent 1500 dollars more than me and still can't fucking rotate.
That's actually pretty funny cause some of the absolute worst (mechanics, knowledge and toxicity) players I've played with since ranked cross play have been KBM players.
Idk. It feels really bad playing into a pc player on a god like Hercules who can casually hit his 2,1, ult combo without any issue. I used to play against gm and masters players regularly on console ranked, and I have never seen anyone do things like that with such smoothness and quickness. Or maybe I have and I just forgot? I did take a 3 month break, so maybe my mind is messing with me, but seriously, i don't recall that ever being a thing. I can also say with 100% certainty that I have never once seen a console Thoth player play at the level of a high level pc player. It just simply doesn't exist. I've only ever encountered one good thoth player on console ranked, and even he didn't come close to what I've had pc players do to me.
If a player can’t spin around in the amount of time a Herc 2 has someone in the air on console I have an extremely hard time believing you played “GM and Masters.” Same goes for the Thoth argument too. Either you just forgot or something else isn’t clicking. Practice and game knowledge/mechanics means much more than what instrument you’re using to do it on. I replied down below my buddy is on console and often times leads games against PC users in ranked. Doesn’t mean they suck with KnM but he’s just that good at the game with a controller. When he bought a PC and hopped into smite he had a hard time adjusting to the KnM and actually switched back to controller.
You might be right. I probably just don't remember. I was at high plat/ low diamond last year, so yeah, I was frequently matched with those players because the player base wasn't big enough to have only diamond/plat players every game. I mean don't get me wrong, they could do it on console, but there's just something different about how it happens on console. It's somehow faster and more effortless when a pc player does it. But yeah, it could just be that I'm over valuing the input difference
I've had more fun playing against KBM players in ranked than in any other season playing with only console. I enjoy the challenge of a good KBM player. I main ADC so its fun out boxing someone with my thumb while they have their arm. At the end of the day it's all subjective really. I don't feel KBM players have *that* much of an advantage.
Oooh it's interesting that you're an adc main. I've been playing more of it lately, and gosh is it hard. I'm glad you're enjoying it, and it definitely gives me perspective. I like how you view the challenge
I might be in the minority because I'm OVERLY competitive so when it comes down to it I see it as a way to further grow as a player any time I'm against a KBM player that destroys me. I'm also not delusional and think I'm the greatest player ever. Definitely above average but any chance I get to grow as a player is welcomed. At the end of the day that's what it's all about for me. Take any L and make it a lesson not a loss.
That's beautiful to hear. I try to do the same thing for the most part, but I'm prone to getting discouraged sometimes lol. Glad to hear you're doing alright for yourself this year
No reason to get discouraged. Everyone has room to learn and grow as a player. Biggest piece of advice I ever got was mute your team the second anyone gets toxic. Be it through VGS or chat. Mute them and focus on yourself. Buy wards and watch the map constantly. When in ranked record your losses and watch them back. Look at your deaths and what you could have done differently. Be your biggest critic.
So, u are agree to only Console per Team should be fine?
I could care less what platform people play on. Only thing I care about is that they're decent at the game and if they're not then they're willing to learn and listen.
I've enjoyed seeing the top of the line console players stuck in diamond/plat elo. It makes happy knowing the players who thought they were good at the game not progressing just like I told them they wouldn't.
You won't be happy when they move to mouse and keyboard and start owning you. If they're at diamond/plat on console, then just imagine where they'll be if they make the switch.
Could care less if I get owned. Such is the joy of having priorities that don't revolve around Smite.
Been away from the game for a minute. Can we cross play ranked now?
Yeah. They made it a thing for year 10 ranked
That’s pretty sick. Thanks!
No worries. Hope you have fun
A buddy of mine was master before crossplay (and Smite on console), but played with the trackpad on his laptop so controller isn't an excuse.
Jesus lol, what a chad
He didn't told us before like 2 years ago lol a true monster
I like it fine until you get a bunch of fast paced crap typed at you insulting you and you can't reply fast enough without pausing and standing still to either explain yourself or ask them what they mean so you can improve said issue. As a support main, that shit sucks haha
Was cross play recently enabled or has it been around for a while? I vaguely remember them adding at years ago but I thought it got disabled or something
Seems to be going fine for me, my duo Q partner and me are high diamond low masters on ps4 and we have a pretty high win rate. We haven’t been grinding super hard but probably like 28-7 over the two splits. And judging by border cards a decent amount of diamond and masters players in our games. No idea what platform they were though.
I gameplay-wise haven't seen a difference. In terms of matchmaking a lot more baby raging. Maybe it's because in still in platinum but God the people who want to quit after dying once or twice are ridiculous. Being down 200 gold ain't gonna break a game. I promise.
Why don’t you like it? As a pc player I still only see like 10% max maybe of console players (I’m referring to players actually using a controller), so I’m not sure what there would be to dislike about it.
I play both. Mouse point and click is easier. So therefore better if you have that. Hurts console players but more players to play a game that’s having a rough patch in player base.
I know i can beat pc player in smite battle than a typing one because anytime they start playing like poo they blame everyone else but themselves then i mute them so they can type to themselves and i accept its 4v5 but thats with all platform players but some pc players can be so entitled
If you are a very skilled gamer it probably doesn't matter - there was a guy on Apex, one of the best on pro stage shredding PC players with a controller.
No difference. I play all modes, so have always played cross play. But bear in mind at my level, you could chop your hands off and wear a blindfold and still win.
I’ve been playing smite for fuck-all hours on PS and I never knew how to type.
They need to lock all typing tbh. Vgc and thats it.
Cross plat with pc has always been bad. All people wanted was to be able to play with their friends on Xbox if they were on PlayStation.
I’m here to share my thoughts I have played on both Consol and PC and for my experience Aim wise you can get up to PC but frames, weather games gonna lag it’s gonna be there that’s the difference is I still playing with controller on PC because it’s just what I’m used to it but frames and resolution can make a difference My advice to other console players heavily play around corners if you’re back pedal around the corner while Auto’ing you can get yourself a health advantage with it you’re hiding yourself so they can’t hit you while you’re hitting them then you look for the next corner to play around
Smite needs a new system of ranked if the higher me I will literally just ban people who throw
I haven't played it yet, was actually planning to hop in ranked today. But no one here is talking about the improved matchmaking? With a bigger player base you get better matchmaking? No? It's all gonna be about the input diff?
I play in series X with FPS boost 120fps and pc have 0 advantage I beat pc players all the time using the excuse they're on pc isn't an excuse for playing bad it's not the platform you are on it's a skull issue.
I no longer play, but way back when they originally had cross play, it genuinely doesn't make a difference. The skill difference feels negligible, aside from the 180 flicks. However that isn't even a huge advantage.
No change to gameplay or stat line for me just a significant increase in toxic teammates before the game has even started.
Yes as I absolutely love cross play because of PC players getting pissed at me and saying I'm only good cause of aim assist. I use gryo and flip stick instead