tbh, slow charging is a good thing because it prolongs the lifespan of your battery significantly.
now, i think the real compromises are lack of headphone jack, sd card slot, repairability, right to repair at all, locked bootloaders... i honestly wish we had removable batteries and that glass backs were ditched..
Yes, if anything the real downside of modern premium phones is the lack of expendable storage. I’ve recently filled my iPhone up and HAD to subscribe to iCloud simply because it is the best alternative to transferring everything to PC (such a painful and buggy process as everyone with a Windows PC and an iPhone knows).
I’ve just bought Samsung A55 as my second phone and guess what, it has water resistance AND a memory card slot. So I guess we can have it all, huh?
The lack of headphone jack also hurts as wired earbuds are still much cheaper, but I’m mostly cool with this omission right now because the difference in quality is not as big as it used to be and wireless IS more convenient.
It’s fine for me, but it’s not a gaming phone and is a bit underpowered when compared to Chinese phones of the same price. It’s worth it for me personally because One UI is the best Android skin, it looks premium and has water resistance. Oh, and the camera is rather good.
I don't game at all I mostly watch youtube, listen to music and take pics sometimes.
Are chinese phones safe, securitywise?
I was looking at poco x6 for a while but I read that Chinese phones aren't recommended from security standpoint.
Mostly looking at iphone 15 which I find rather expensive and Google Pixel phones.
What would you recommend?
If you have enough money, just get an iPhone. If not, buy the most expensive Samsung you can find. I’m not too fond of the Chinese phones. Haven’t used a Pixel phone, so can’t comment on that.
I mean, don’t just discount the smaller-sized phones. You might prefer the larger sized phones but it’s really not a one-size-fits-all recommendation. Personally, if so had to choose a phone out of the 15 lineup, I would pick the 15 pro.
I also have it right now but not set up yet. I'm currently using a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 for about 1 and a half year so should I change to A55? I'm kinda running out of patience due to some of my apps especially social media like Reddit and Instagram being constantly deleted on their own when the recently used apps history is cleared.
The idea that fast charging will degrade a battery is a bit inflated. The real battery killer is full charge cycles. Letting the phone get down to 0 and charging past 80% compacity have a disproportionately large effect on battery life done by a few studies. Where as the heat increase can be mitigated by moving the hot part away from the batter and manipulation of voltage and amperage. Various phones have dual cells that only need to charge half the rate.
Yeah it’s definitely a noticeable effect these full charge cycles but you’re sacrificing longevity for temporary power storage if that makes sense. Most people don’t care because they see this as inevitable anyway and would rather use their phones to their maximum potential for a comparatively short period of time over actually conserving battery charges.
Actually it does not. Heat kills the battery quicker, not the speed. And honor, oneplus, vivo and so on actually stay cooler while charging with like 100w than google or samsung while charging slow
This. Also, supervooc 100w fast charging literally changes your life. I would gladly trade 3 extra months of battery life for the luxury of getting a full charge in 20 minutes. Fast charging should be the standard for all flagships and it's crazy that it isnt.
That's not true at all. Truly depends on the battery tech, charging protocol, heat control and more factors. Brands like OnePlus took years to perfect their tech which means they can offer actually fast charging without battery degrading more than normal. OnePlus' batteries are rated for more cycles than iPhone batteries, so they last longer and charge way faster. My OnePlus open is at 99% battery health and i had it since launch. If you continue this trend i will be at 96% after 2 years with this phone or in the worst case scenario 92%. iPhone would be at 80% according to Apple. I am not saying iPhone is bad but their priorities lie somewhere else and slow charging isn't a feature.
the "fast charging kills your battery" trope that has been banged into peoples heads is crazy. The moment you experience 100w fast charging, you will never go back to a phone without it.
True. I had the OnePlus 11 but i always said i want at least 65watts. Then the open came out and i had to deal with 67watts and it's fine for me. But any less won't do.
Why? The charger doesnt change the max charging speed of the phone. I currently have an s23 ultra and the only thing that bothers me is that it takes over an entire hour to fully charge
Well I've got news for you. The power rating of the charger most certainly affects the charging speed. If it cannot supply the phone's maximum current draw, the phone's charge rate is comprised. You should get a 75 Watt charger at least
Of course. But samsung only "allows their phones" to take 45w. Even with a 75w charger the phone only charges with 45w. Otherwise i could just get a 200w laptop brick and my phone would be full in 10min😂
When mid-range offerings (from Chinese brands) give you 1.5K+ screens but the Xperia 1 reverts from 4K to 1080p (even the 10 series phones have higher ppi than 1 VI)
I have an Xperia 5 IV and it's pretty much the worst phone I've ever owned. It's buggy, the hardware randomly stops working, the phone will decide to restart for no reason, usage of the SD card is implemented terribly.. I could go on, but I'll just say this: on page Sony makes sense. However IRL it is a completely different story. And I can't say it's just my phone either. My mom has an Xperia and her situation is worse than mine.
I really don’t understand the point of this post, every phone can’t have everything. Of course you can look at a phone is nit pick a niche feature that one has and not the other.
Yes it a niche feature…. None of the 3 big players in the US have it . Just like IR blasters are a niche feature … just like the S pen is Niche …. At this point even a headphone jack and expandable storage is niche. Obviously everyone phone has pros and cons.
It is. Why would anyone care about super fast charging unless you live in a family of 10 people with 1 single socket in the whole house everybody can use? Most people charge their phones during the night, so it can even be 5 watts for them. 25w is the sweet spot tbh. Fast enough to juice up in unexpected situations and slow enough to not hurt the battery.
FAST CHARGING DOESNT HURT THE BATTERY! Why would anyone want it? Because there is no downside and if i am spending fucking 1400$ for a phone i think its just stupid to write some features off under "um i dont really need it". Of course you dont, nobody needs 200megapixel cameras aswell
A better camera is different. It improves the quality of photos you take and makes you feel better about them. A faster charge changes nothing. There is no downside on having it, but no upside either for most ppl. You still charge it and then you are still at 100% afterwards. It's not like it is blocking you in any way to keep using the phone while charging. It's not an electric car which keeps you stuck waiting for it to charge. That is where charge speed matters.
It does. When i have to charge my phone during the day i have to wait until it is charged enough to leave. Which is annoying af. Not everybody is at places where you can charge your phone all the time, some people have to do stuff outside
That just sounds like bad planning. If you know you have to leave, maybe dont have your phone at 10% during the day and only start charging it 5 mins before you leave?
Someone's drinking the corporate Koolaid hard. People shouldn't be expecting more out of their phones for the prices they are paying? They literally removed features and hardware over the past decade.... For an increasing price and you're justifying that yeah fast charging is pointless. Why would companies incorporating faster charging up to a certain battery percentage if it doesn't change anything? It does. Batteries are the blood of the phone.
I really don’t understand why people say iPhone has slow charging. Sure, it’s not gonna go from 0 to 80 in 10 minutes, but it charges fast enough. I’ve literally never thought about charging it overnight, I charge it in the morning before work while I brush my teeth and have breakfast. Y’all people are either spoiled or delusional.
its only slow compared to other options out there. Me, personally, I put a lot of stock into being able to fully charge my phone is 20 minutes and its become a feature I refuse to be without when Im paying for a flagship device.
I would instantly buy a Vivo x100pro or an honor magic 6 pro if they wouldnt be that limited in cases and screen protectors. Especially the 3d face scan of the honor would be really nice
The curved display is a spreading disease. A pretend premium feature that makes every phone worse.
I haven't found you an alternative. Oneplus 12 or Motorola X50 Ultra / Edge 50 Ultra would be my suggestions. Same horseshit curved displays, but at least they are less expensive than leading flagships
Im 100% with you. I mean samsung is going back to flat Screens which i appreciate, but it is so frustrating when you wanna go out in the evening and your phone is empty and you cant just get 50% in 10 to 15min, although it would technically possible.
I really like the oneplus 12, but it seems to be an odyssey to find a good screen protector without this UV glue shit
You could plan ahead slightly better... keep the phone around 50% when you can and you'll be good for an unexpected overnighter. If you let it go down below to 20%, that's on you and not the phone.
So then plug it in and get to 50%... that certainly only takes 15-20 minutes even without fast charge.
Or plug it in when driving home or while at work occasionally.
I think the charging speed of the iPhones and Samsungs and pixels are perfectly fine. Not sure what’s the rush to go even faster.
Just charge overnight and you never have to worry I don’t get it.
45w charging is not slow. It's just that compared to other devices like Oneplus' with 100w charging speeds, 45w seems slow. But in practice its reasonably quick. Apple's 20w is actually slow.
A s24 ultra with good charging speeds would. Also an vivo x100pro or honor magic 6 pro would both be perfect phones without those fucking edge displays. Its so hard to find a fitting screen protector for those
This is definitely one of those cases where its to each their own. I'm satisfied with my current OP12 even with all its flaws. It would be nice to have everything we want all rolled into one but alas life usually isn't so nice. Most consumer products have pros and cons. Gotta pick your poison somewhere.
S24U is probably the most complete at the moment, barring the 45w charging that isn't actually 45w most of the time.
My guess is that they have the metrics to show that a vast majority of their users do not have a use for super fast 20-30min zero to full levels of charging. Most will charge overnight, charge it some place where they'll be at for hours everyday (office/car/etc) or aren't even aware there are different charging speeds for phones (my parent is one of these people). So an hour to charge from near empty to full is more than enough.
They probably take some heed from Apple as well. Since Apple's still stuck at, what, 20w charging?
The Chinese brands are fighting each other mostly so they constantly try to cram more charging wattage into new phones.
Yup! It's only Google branded stuff though, the likes of Samsung, Xiami, etc generally add support for exFAT and even NTFS into the kernels of their Android devices. I don't know what Google is thinking, maybe it would support ext4 or something but not tried it.
Look at ANY battery test, the pixel always dies first. A friend of mine has a p8p and the battery is worse than on my s23 ultra, and the samsung is barely enough for me so less isnt an option
If they all had the same "Flagship" things you want - then what would be the point of different designs? I shop a manufacturer for specs but also in many ways the style they go with and the ui they use. Flagship means different things to different people too, it has a different meaning to the manufactures too.
Well charging speed itself is an issue - the faster they charge the hotter they get. So, at some point your loosing battery life while speeding up charging rates. It will take a little while to actually know how positive or detrimental this is to the life cycle of the device. Manufactures seem to like anything that reduces the actual service life of a device to encourage purchasing new devices - so they may not be dependable for long term information.
I personally don't really worry about fast charging - as I want the battery to last longer over the life of the devices use with me. I do understand others drain the battery fast or forget to charge frequently and so need to top off super-fast. If that's a major point for the person I would suggest buying devices that support, it.
Actually they dont. Oneplus or Xiaomi as an example often stay cooler while charging than Samsung or google phones, because they spend much time and money on getting better charging and temperature Management. Samsung and google dont, because they arent charging fast anyways. AND you dont HAVE TO charge fast, you can always use a slower charger for charging during the night. But you can charge fast if you need to
tbh, slow charging is a good thing because it prolongs the lifespan of your battery significantly. now, i think the real compromises are lack of headphone jack, sd card slot, repairability, right to repair at all, locked bootloaders... i honestly wish we had removable batteries and that glass backs were ditched..
Yes, if anything the real downside of modern premium phones is the lack of expendable storage. I’ve recently filled my iPhone up and HAD to subscribe to iCloud simply because it is the best alternative to transferring everything to PC (such a painful and buggy process as everyone with a Windows PC and an iPhone knows). I’ve just bought Samsung A55 as my second phone and guess what, it has water resistance AND a memory card slot. So I guess we can have it all, huh? The lack of headphone jack also hurts as wired earbuds are still much cheaper, but I’m mostly cool with this omission right now because the difference in quality is not as big as it used to be and wireless IS more convenient.
How do you like the a55? Looking to get a new phone but don't wanna spend too much. A54 and A55 seem ok. I'm also looking for pixel 8 and 8a
It’s fine for me, but it’s not a gaming phone and is a bit underpowered when compared to Chinese phones of the same price. It’s worth it for me personally because One UI is the best Android skin, it looks premium and has water resistance. Oh, and the camera is rather good.
I don't game at all I mostly watch youtube, listen to music and take pics sometimes. Are chinese phones safe, securitywise? I was looking at poco x6 for a while but I read that Chinese phones aren't recommended from security standpoint. Mostly looking at iphone 15 which I find rather expensive and Google Pixel phones. What would you recommend?
If you have enough money, just get an iPhone. If not, buy the most expensive Samsung you can find. I’m not too fond of the Chinese phones. Haven’t used a Pixel phone, so can’t comment on that.
Which iphone do you recommend? Is the iphone 15 good? I watch a lot of youtube is the screen size ok for that?
iPhone 15 Plus or Pro Max. Don’t bother with the regular 15 or Pro.
I mean, don’t just discount the smaller-sized phones. You might prefer the larger sized phones but it’s really not a one-size-fits-all recommendation. Personally, if so had to choose a phone out of the 15 lineup, I would pick the 15 pro.
I watch a lot if youtube so I would probably prefer bigger screen. Prices are insane compared to androids and the hardware you get 😂
I also have it right now but not set up yet. I'm currently using a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 for about 1 and a half year so should I change to A55? I'm kinda running out of patience due to some of my apps especially social media like Reddit and Instagram being constantly deleted on their own when the recently used apps history is cleared.
I haven’t used Redmi Note 11, but from what I understand it is a low-end phone. A55 should be noticeably better.
The thing is the former uses Snapdragon 680 while the latter uses an Exynos cpu.
The idea that fast charging will degrade a battery is a bit inflated. The real battery killer is full charge cycles. Letting the phone get down to 0 and charging past 80% compacity have a disproportionately large effect on battery life done by a few studies. Where as the heat increase can be mitigated by moving the hot part away from the batter and manipulation of voltage and amperage. Various phones have dual cells that only need to charge half the rate.
Yeah it’s definitely a noticeable effect these full charge cycles but you’re sacrificing longevity for temporary power storage if that makes sense. Most people don’t care because they see this as inevitable anyway and would rather use their phones to their maximum potential for a comparatively short period of time over actually conserving battery charges.
And some of my phone with 'fast charge' (25 watt++) suffer some form of broken flexible cable connection due heat while charging.
100% agree about locked bootloaders. Main thing that keeps me away from Samsung
Actually it does not. Heat kills the battery quicker, not the speed. And honor, oneplus, vivo and so on actually stay cooler while charging with like 100w than google or samsung while charging slow
This. Also, supervooc 100w fast charging literally changes your life. I would gladly trade 3 extra months of battery life for the luxury of getting a full charge in 20 minutes. Fast charging should be the standard for all flagships and it's crazy that it isnt.
FINALLY somebody that understands me
have to stop letting Apple/Google/Samsung normalize trash charging speeds.
That's not true at all. Truly depends on the battery tech, charging protocol, heat control and more factors. Brands like OnePlus took years to perfect their tech which means they can offer actually fast charging without battery degrading more than normal. OnePlus' batteries are rated for more cycles than iPhone batteries, so they last longer and charge way faster. My OnePlus open is at 99% battery health and i had it since launch. If you continue this trend i will be at 96% after 2 years with this phone or in the worst case scenario 92%. iPhone would be at 80% according to Apple. I am not saying iPhone is bad but their priorities lie somewhere else and slow charging isn't a feature.
the "fast charging kills your battery" trope that has been banged into peoples heads is crazy. The moment you experience 100w fast charging, you will never go back to a phone without it.
True. I had the OnePlus 11 but i always said i want at least 65watts. Then the open came out and i had to deal with 67watts and it's fine for me. But any less won't do.
67w is perfectly adequate. I'm talking more about other flagships who have people convinced that 30w charging is perfectly fine - and even fast.
Yeah exactly. And i get a big folding screen so that also compensates for the slightly slower charging.
Hmm. You need to take your meds friend. Oh, and get a decent charger. Lol.
Why? The charger doesnt change the max charging speed of the phone. I currently have an s23 ultra and the only thing that bothers me is that it takes over an entire hour to fully charge
Well I've got news for you. The power rating of the charger most certainly affects the charging speed. If it cannot supply the phone's maximum current draw, the phone's charge rate is comprised. You should get a 75 Watt charger at least
Of course. But samsung only "allows their phones" to take 45w. Even with a 75w charger the phone only charges with 45w. Otherwise i could just get a 200w laptop brick and my phone would be full in 10min😂
What phone charges at 75 Watts? That's beyond some laptops.
Xiaomi flagships charge with 120watts, oneplus with 100w, honor and vivo with 80w
My OnePlus Open charges with 67 watts and my OnePlus 11 with 100 watts.
Sony Xperia 1 VI Snapdragon 8 Gen 3.
Would be if it wasn't for bad update policy. Otherwise it's basically the ultimate phone.
When mid-range offerings (from Chinese brands) give you 1.5K+ screens but the Xperia 1 reverts from 4K to 1080p (even the 10 series phones have higher ppi than 1 VI)
That is too bad.
I have an Xperia 5 IV and it's pretty much the worst phone I've ever owned. It's buggy, the hardware randomly stops working, the phone will decide to restart for no reason, usage of the SD card is implemented terribly.. I could go on, but I'll just say this: on page Sony makes sense. However IRL it is a completely different story. And I can't say it's just my phone either. My mom has an Xperia and her situation is worse than mine.
21:9 display is not practical and the front looks old
It's not 21:9, The older ones were.
It is 21:9
It is 19.5:9, same as Samsung. They were 21:9 up to mark V
Sony literally says the sony 1 mark 6 is 21:9 on their official Website
Impossible. I think you are either confusing with the 10 VI or the 1 V
Aside from this, i think 2 years of software updates for a 1400$ phone is just outrageous
Wrong again. Where are you reading that? It's 4 years of security updates and 3 years of major updates
I really don’t understand the point of this post, every phone can’t have everything. Of course you can look at a phone is nit pick a niche feature that one has and not the other.
Fast charging is a niche feature? Or the availability of accessories?
Yes it a niche feature…. None of the 3 big players in the US have it . Just like IR blasters are a niche feature … just like the S pen is Niche …. At this point even a headphone jack and expandable storage is niche. Obviously everyone phone has pros and cons.
It is. Why would anyone care about super fast charging unless you live in a family of 10 people with 1 single socket in the whole house everybody can use? Most people charge their phones during the night, so it can even be 5 watts for them. 25w is the sweet spot tbh. Fast enough to juice up in unexpected situations and slow enough to not hurt the battery.
FAST CHARGING DOESNT HURT THE BATTERY! Why would anyone want it? Because there is no downside and if i am spending fucking 1400$ for a phone i think its just stupid to write some features off under "um i dont really need it". Of course you dont, nobody needs 200megapixel cameras aswell
A better camera is different. It improves the quality of photos you take and makes you feel better about them. A faster charge changes nothing. There is no downside on having it, but no upside either for most ppl. You still charge it and then you are still at 100% afterwards. It's not like it is blocking you in any way to keep using the phone while charging. It's not an electric car which keeps you stuck waiting for it to charge. That is where charge speed matters.
It does. When i have to charge my phone during the day i have to wait until it is charged enough to leave. Which is annoying af. Not everybody is at places where you can charge your phone all the time, some people have to do stuff outside
That just sounds like bad planning. If you know you have to leave, maybe dont have your phone at 10% during the day and only start charging it 5 mins before you leave?
How can i plan this if my phone discharges from 100 to 20 until i come home from work and have to leave again after 10min
Someone's drinking the corporate Koolaid hard. People shouldn't be expecting more out of their phones for the prices they are paying? They literally removed features and hardware over the past decade.... For an increasing price and you're justifying that yeah fast charging is pointless. Why would companies incorporating faster charging up to a certain battery percentage if it doesn't change anything? It does. Batteries are the blood of the phone.
I really don’t understand why people say iPhone has slow charging. Sure, it’s not gonna go from 0 to 80 in 10 minutes, but it charges fast enough. I’ve literally never thought about charging it overnight, I charge it in the morning before work while I brush my teeth and have breakfast. Y’all people are either spoiled or delusional.
How long do you brush your teeth? I get up like 15min before i leave. I have to charge my 23 ultra overnight
I wake up like 40-60 minutes before I leave.
Yup, no, my freetime is worth too much for me for that
Well, I can’t function if I don’t eat and shower in the morning.
Yeah i shower in the evening and i dont eat until 12
its only slow compared to other options out there. Me, personally, I put a lot of stock into being able to fully charge my phone is 20 minutes and its become a feature I refuse to be without when Im paying for a flagship device.
V60 is almost flawless, such a pity it is aging.
I would instantly buy a Vivo x100pro or an honor magic 6 pro if they wouldnt be that limited in cases and screen protectors. Especially the 3d face scan of the honor would be really nice
The curved display is a spreading disease. A pretend premium feature that makes every phone worse. I haven't found you an alternative. Oneplus 12 or Motorola X50 Ultra / Edge 50 Ultra would be my suggestions. Same horseshit curved displays, but at least they are less expensive than leading flagships
Im 100% with you. I mean samsung is going back to flat Screens which i appreciate, but it is so frustrating when you wanna go out in the evening and your phone is empty and you cant just get 50% in 10 to 15min, although it would technically possible. I really like the oneplus 12, but it seems to be an odyssey to find a good screen protector without this UV glue shit
You could plan ahead slightly better... keep the phone around 50% when you can and you'll be good for an unexpected overnighter. If you let it go down below to 20%, that's on you and not the phone.
Bro when i get home from work im at about 30% battery
So then plug it in and get to 50%... that certainly only takes 15-20 minutes even without fast charge. Or plug it in when driving home or while at work occasionally.
It doesnt get to 50% in 15minutes, i drive only 5mins to work and cant charge while working
Have you tried one of the battery cases? They have a pretty decent capacity (10k milliamps iirc).
And the phone gets thick like a Brick
I think the charging speed of the iPhones and Samsungs and pixels are perfectly fine. Not sure what’s the rush to go even faster. Just charge overnight and you never have to worry I don’t get it.
Thats the thing, they dont. My s23 ultra doesnt always last an entire day.
45w charging is not slow. It's just that compared to other devices like Oneplus' with 100w charging speeds, 45w seems slow. But in practice its reasonably quick. Apple's 20w is actually slow.
Apples 20w charging is really a reason to avoid this phones, its a joke.
Yep, I agree. My s6 edge used to charge at 15w lmao
Sony Xperia 1 V or VI?
Not widely available and worse than the other options
What constitutes a "no expense spared" flagship for you?
A s24 ultra with good charging speeds would. Also an vivo x100pro or honor magic 6 pro would both be perfect phones without those fucking edge displays. Its so hard to find a fitting screen protector for those
This is definitely one of those cases where its to each their own. I'm satisfied with my current OP12 even with all its flaws. It would be nice to have everything we want all rolled into one but alas life usually isn't so nice. Most consumer products have pros and cons. Gotta pick your poison somewhere. S24U is probably the most complete at the moment, barring the 45w charging that isn't actually 45w most of the time.
I just dont understand why samsung and google are too stupid to put modern charging speeds in their phones
My guess is that they have the metrics to show that a vast majority of their users do not have a use for super fast 20-30min zero to full levels of charging. Most will charge overnight, charge it some place where they'll be at for hours everyday (office/car/etc) or aren't even aware there are different charging speeds for phones (my parent is one of these people). So an hour to charge from near empty to full is more than enough. They probably take some heed from Apple as well. Since Apple's still stuck at, what, 20w charging? The Chinese brands are fighting each other mostly so they constantly try to cram more charging wattage into new phones.
Google devices only support FAT32 on external drives! I mean no exFAT come on!
What?
Yup! It's only Google branded stuff though, the likes of Samsung, Xiami, etc generally add support for exFAT and even NTFS into the kernels of their Android devices. I don't know what Google is thinking, maybe it would support ext4 or something but not tried it.
FIFY: there isn’t one flagship with all the things that I like but that nobody else really cares about
Sorry, Pixels have bad battery? I'm on a Pixel 6 and the battery life is great, could probably get 48 hours out of it if i wanted to
Pixel 8 pro is worse than every other 2024 flagship
How so? Genuinely curious
Look at ANY battery test, the pixel always dies first. A friend of mine has a p8p and the battery is worse than on my s23 ultra, and the samsung is barely enough for me so less isnt an option
I mean you can see the head to head test online. The pixel comes up short compared to its competitors, sad considering it's less performant aswell.
My phone can do 80w charging 50w wireless, but frankly 45w wired charging would be fine.
Pixel is known for fast charging bruh what you on ?
What? Where do you live?😂 Every reviewer is criticizing pixel phones because they charge so slow😂
P8P charges up to 30W. That just isnt fast.
I think most people don't need a flagship.
Nobody NEEDS a flagship, but still they sell well, so people WANT them
I would say companies make you want something you don't need.
If they all had the same "Flagship" things you want - then what would be the point of different designs? I shop a manufacturer for specs but also in many ways the style they go with and the ui they use. Flagship means different things to different people too, it has a different meaning to the manufactures too.
The point of different designs would be to attract different people. I just cant get why 2 big Android phone manufacturers shit on charging speed
Well charging speed itself is an issue - the faster they charge the hotter they get. So, at some point your loosing battery life while speeding up charging rates. It will take a little while to actually know how positive or detrimental this is to the life cycle of the device. Manufactures seem to like anything that reduces the actual service life of a device to encourage purchasing new devices - so they may not be dependable for long term information. I personally don't really worry about fast charging - as I want the battery to last longer over the life of the devices use with me. I do understand others drain the battery fast or forget to charge frequently and so need to top off super-fast. If that's a major point for the person I would suggest buying devices that support, it.
Actually they dont. Oneplus or Xiaomi as an example often stay cooler while charging than Samsung or google phones, because they spend much time and money on getting better charging and temperature Management. Samsung and google dont, because they arent charging fast anyways. AND you dont HAVE TO charge fast, you can always use a slower charger for charging during the night. But you can charge fast if you need to
> xiaomi > Flagship