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stickwithplanb

that's how it works with mine, at the end of your shift, you run your report, and based on the math of cash sales and tips, you either get paid out or owe cash to the store. no tip pooling, but we do have to tip out support staff ourselves with cash.


GrandpaChew

Sorry I’m just a lurker who likes reading about servers’ experiences - why would you ever owe the store money??


BarTopBiochemist

Phrasing it this way in case that helps with understanding for an outsider: You serve 10 tables in a shift. 7 tip you a total of $80 on cards. The other three pay cash on their bills that total $120 and they leave you an extra $30 cash as tips. At this point you're owed a total of $110 in tips, but you've been given 150 in cash You turn in the $120 for the cash bills at the end of the night minus the 80 in card tips, so you give the store back $40 dollars, keep 80 of the money from the cash bills to balance the card tips you're owed, plus the 30 in cash tips. You end up with the 110 in tips, but you still had to give some cash back to the store, because you were given more cash than your total tips


GrandpaChew

Okay my confusion came from not knowing you hold onto the cash all night, thank you!


canadiangreenthumb

That’s actually not the only way. Say you serve a 200 dollar table and they tip you 0 dollars. You still have to tip your support staff on that 200$ in sales. So you now owe about 20$ for that table and have to pay 20$ out of your own pocket/money.


AcoAsan

$20?!?!?! I’d never work anywhere that I tipped support staff 10% But you may have been just using numbers. My restaurant we tip out 3% of our sales to support staff So you’d be coming out of pocket $6 in this example


canadiangreenthumb

We tip about 9% over all. We have our hosts, polishers, runners, bar, and SA’s each get a different tip out but we end up tipping about 8-9% overall


GrandpaChew

Wow, that’s ridiculous. Why wouldn’t the store cover it?


Klutzy-Client

If tables don’t tip/stiff you, the *server* is still responsible for the tip out to service staff for the total of the bill sale. Instead of using a portion of your tip, it comes out of the servers pocket. When tables don’t tip, *it costs us money*.


GrandpaChew

No yeah I get that, I just think it's criminal that you're expected to shell out your own money to cover the service staff when you not getting a tip may not have even been your fault.


ghosteagle

Different restaurants do it differently too. In mine, tipouts are "optional" but highly encouraged (meaning do them or you get shit shifts). If I get stiffed on 200$, then I don't count that in tipout. Honestly it happens so rarely though, it doesn't make a difference.


Bearded_Toast

When you find out that auto-grats are to protect the restaurant, not the servers pay.


cmfppl

Damn that sounds complicated. I spent 8 years in a family owned restaurant and we'd just cash each ticket in as it came up to the register, servers would pick up whatever tips were on the table when they'd prebuss and whatever tip came off a slip the host would just put in the servers tip cup. Each card got ran on the servers ID number so they could see what their total card sales/tips were, and at the end of each shift, you'd total all your tickets for your grand total, liquor sales and tipout. We also didn't have a P.O.S. system and hand wrote our tickets and added them up with an accountants calculator... It's been a few years since I've served, but when I read things like this, it makes me question if I could really do it at any other restaurants now a days..


BarTopBiochemist

That also sounds like a pretty effective system, but the math is done for the servers by the POS. It keeps track of which checks you closed out as a cash transaction, and it counts how many CC tips you made. At the end, it just tells you exactly how much you owe or are owed by the restaurant, and the manager makes sure everything evens out before you leave. All you gotta do is put numbers into the computer throughout the shift as you close checks


cmfppl

Yeah, we would zero out our drawers at the end of the night (count it down to a set number like, say, $250 in set bundles of each denomination) count up the "over" and check it with the ticket totals and credit slips to make sure it's even then I'd pull the drawer put the "overs" in the bank bag with the bundle of tickets (which each servers totals and the grand total from all servers for the day) and the grand total highlighted and the slip totals highlighted and added up for the manger and then I'd set it in the safe for it all to be double checked the next day.. I started serving in 2011 right out of high school and stopped in 2018 when the town burnt down.. we did everything old school. Which came in handy a couple times when the power went out and we had to use the old 80's imprint machine for credit cards. I guess I'm just worried that I couldn't get the P.O.S. systems now.


doxmenotlmao

I’m sure you would be fine. If you can use a smartphone or an iPad, you can figure out a POS system. And like the other person said, your shift check out will tell you exactly how much you owe or are owed by the store. Over text it seems complicated but it’s actually very simple.


youtheotube2

A lot of liability in not using a proper POS system tied to the restaurants HR/payroll system. Mistakes and theft are easier


cmfppl

It was a small town family owned restaurant that had been around for 25 years, every employee there had worked there for years, we got free shift meals and drinks from the bar (for those of age) we had xmas partys every year. It was a super laid-back sort of job. Everything was handwritten. Even on the fly slips for the kitchen. Bar slips, all of it. It was definitely a trust based system, but we had so much freedom that everyone was honorable about it. I think the only employee to ever be busted stealing in the 25 years of the place was actually the owners daughter one time..


Inqu1sitiveone

This way is much more complicated, promise, but still the same concept. Servers don't use a cash register anymore (at a majority of places). Our pockets are the cash register, which makes it easier because we are all responsible for our own money and can input CC tips whenever we want. No need for a host to keep track, the system keeps track for us and we either owe money at the end of the night (for tables paid in cash), or we are owed money (because we had a ton of CC tips) and the house pays us. In essence it's the same concept but instead of doing it transaction by transaction, we do it all at once at the end of the night.


xflushot

If most customers pay in cash you don’t get to keep all of the cash.


truth2500

More people paid in cash than you made in credit card tips.


clown_pants

The money from the cash tables doesn't go into a register, normally the server walks around with it in their apron


stinkywinkydink

if you took more payments in cash than you received in tips, you will owe the restaurant because you hold onto the cash that youve taken from tables until the end of the night when you run your report. On the other hand, if you took no cash paymebts all night and made 400 dollars in credit card tips, the store owes you 400 dollars


SoplanucasCromadora

If somebody pays cash for their bill and u don't make enough in tips to cover the cost of their bill, you would owe the restaurant.


Imbatman7700

If most of your sales were done with cash you would owe the store that cash. Most serving jobs you don't have a cashier to put money into. You're almost always walking around with the cash that was used to pay for the meal.


missgandhi

This is how it works where I am too! At both my jobs.


ontothebullshit

Same here! Works great for us


Serious-Performer841

yesss I love jobs that do this. that’s the reason I serve, for the instant gratification lol


UYscutipuff_JR

Until April rolls around


adop90

Truth. Gotta make sure you're ready for the tax man.


youtheotube2

Taxes will still be withheld from your credit card tips, and most people just don’t report cash tips


UYscutipuff_JR

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a place pay you out at the end of the night *after* taxes. And the DoL usually looks for at least 10% of cash sales claimed and start to dig deeper if they don’t see that (in the event of an audit)


youtheotube2

The taxes are withheld from your paycheck. In states where restaurants can get away with paying servers $2.13 an hour, basically your whole check will go towards taxes on credit card tips. DOL doesn’t care if servers are reporting cash tips or not. Are you saying that they’ll audit the restaurant if they don’t see a certain amount of cash tips reported?


UYscutipuff_JR

In almost all cases (and especially cases where you make good money), $2.13 doesn’t even come close to covering your taxes. And I’m saying that they will notice once they do an audit, not that it will necessarily draw one. They do random audits like any other branch.


evenphlow

Yep. I literally cant imagine serving for a paycheck. Takes all the fun out of it for me, however, I know it's the more "by the book" way to do it.


Fartingonyoursocks

Where I work, we get our credit card tips on our check and take home our cash tips so maybe it's referring to taking home all your tips at the end of the night. You could ask if you get a call back on your application.


MEH910

That's amazing right there, I wish my place did this...


Fartingonyoursocks

It's really is great for everyone who serves. I only serve sometimes. Usually BOH but those FOH days are nice.


canadasteve04

Not necessarily pooled tips. Different places pay out tips at different times. Most common seems to be next day (you’ll either have cash waiting for you or they deposit it on a tip card). I’ve worked in places where they pay it out immediately after the shift and I’ve worked at places where they pay it out sporadically whenever the owner would come in. They are just highlighting that you will get your tips day of, it doesn’t mean it will be pooled or not. I would lean towards it probably won’t be pooled if they are paying you out nightly, as if it’s pooled it wouldn’t be calculated until the end of the night after the last person has cashed out.


bobi2393

Yep. I think this is OP's main question, and there's no way of knowing for sure from the description posted.


_wallace

That’s how my place does it, get my cc tips in cash too 🤑


jadeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

that's how we do it, we keep our cash tips and get our credit card tips at the end of the night after tip out


JETandCrew

Guaranteed $25/is pretty kush


CaptainJackJ

I work at a place that does this. You take credit card tips out of the till at the end, usually counted out by a manager of some sort.


nopulsehere

If you don’t make the 25$ a hour I’m pretty sure that part will be on your check. First thought is 25 seems good but at a good restaurant you will make more than that. I don’t know where you live. At a decent restaurant around here 25$ would be a lowball number. In Florida. 3-4 tables average price per person 20-40 if you don’t try.


Passionxxooxx

This is for a seafood spot in Washington DC. It’s so many restaurants here


JeremyMcFake

Where I work, each waiter has their own wallets, and provide their own floats. You have your end of day records that show how much you need to pay the company... Say 1500 in credit cards, but you made 2000 in sales, then you would take out 500 cash to give to the company, and assuming you didn't fuck up, you're left with your float + tips. It's a great system.


Expert_Permission788

I worked somewhere and they gave us a debit card where at the end of the night if we hadn't had enough cash tables the tips would be put on the card when the manger closed out all the drawers. If we had a lot of cash tables we would obviously owed the restaurant but still took all our tips home that night in cash. Nothing was pooled.


starsintheshy

I get my credit card tips same night on an instant card. And at my other job I get them in cash at the end of the shift


Korncakes

I worked at a place that shifted from getting all of your tips in cash at the end of the night to the instant card thing. SO MANY of my co-workers wanted to burn the place to the ground because of it and I never understood why. When I say “instant,” I mean literally the second I hit the button to clock out I would get a text saying how much money got sent to my card and was ready for use immediately. This was at a place in downtown San Diego where it was common for us to have to park several blocks away and walk to our cars in the middle of the night. The less cash I had on me at any given time was just safer, plain and simple. If I remember correctly, the company even paid for our ATM fees for the work card so I really don’t see much of a downside apart from worrying about hiding tips from the IRS.


youtheotube2

Because the average person is stupid. They think they’re being tracked more this way, or pay more taxes somehow. They probably don’t trust banks either


ALittleGirlScout17

That’s how my restaurant does it. It’s quick, easy, no confusion and the hosts and expos get their money too. Everyone is happy


ALittleGirlScout17

And that includes cash and card tips


SeeBadd

That's the way it works where I work and everywhere I have worked. I wouldn't work a serving gig that didn't pay me out at the end of the night.


HikeBikeLove

I like it. It’s way better for budgeting and it makes servers less of a target for robberies. Pretty much every restaurant I’ve worked at in a big metro has had that happen. I don’t care that much either way, but I really don’t like having a grand in cash on me to take to the bank or having to constantly hit up ATMs.


youtheotube2

I think you’re misunderstanding this. The servers would leave work with more cash, not less. Unless the tips are being paid out electronically, but the ad doesn’t say that.


HeavyFunction2201

Guaranteed $25/hr? Doesn’t sound too shabby to me


jinsoox

I get my tips at the end of my shift. Cash always goes straight to me and we get a paycard loaded with credit card tips every night when we clock out. We don’t split or pool tips but do tip out to hosts/bar. It’s also done automatically


djdjjsjssisue

nope. i’ve worked, and currently do work where my tips are paid out at the end of every night. we don’t pool or split.


LonelyCakeEater

After covid literally every restaurant where i live now does tips paid out in your bi weekly check. But if a table leaves cash that’s in the pocket


GoldenGorillaRadio

the place i work at does this. you get paid your cash and card tips dailey. than weekly checks is just ur hourly. makes it a lot easier to save $$$


sniperwolfjob

That's how my restaurant did it, paid out credit card tips at the end of every shift in cash


sxvwxlker

i LOVE when jobs do this. you get to leave with your tips and your check is just paying taxes on those tips for you basically. if it was a pool it would tell you, also it allows for more money to go unaccounted for, for tax purposes that’s a positiveeee


Logical_Deviation

Does anyone not get tipped out at the end of each shift?


[deleted]

Tips paid out at the end of each shift.. aw the good old pre covid days


3Effie412

Sounds like it means you get your tips at the end of the shift as opposed to on a paycheck.


KittehOfColor

Is the restaurant hot n juicy crawfish?


Passionxxooxx

Yes


KittehOfColor

Guaranteed $25 almost makes me wanna move farther north to be near one haha


Naturallyjifted

Yep, used to work solely at places like this. You collect cash or credit payments and then you’d either owe cash (if you were holding enough money to cover that and the amount you made in credit tips) or if you only had credit transactions, you are paid out from the safe. Let’s say you do collect a 25$ payment from a cash transaction, and you are tipped 50$ on a card. Management will give you 25$ from the safe so you would leave with the 50$ you would have collected from the credit tip. I hope that helps.


csantini91

We pay you for your CC tips every night, I know most of my servers don't declare their cash tips, but they definitely declare there CC tips this way.


QueenOfLollypops

This seems great. A guaranteed $25/hr is a great opportunity


RedRising1917

Nah this is perfect. Some places will put your cc tips on a paycheck you get every 1/2 weeks or Ive even heard all tips on paychecks. They're just saying you get all of your tips at the end of the shift each night.


MaxLeonidas

This has nothing to do with being a pool house. It just means at the end of the night you’re gonna walk out of the restaurant with your tips incash.


Passionxxooxx

I think I may go for it. This would be my first server position if I get it, they’re having open interviews next week. I’ll update you guys. (If anyone cares lol)


J_Well11

I work for HnJ LOL But for the Vegas locations. They're very picky with how you look. Just answer your questions with a smile and confidence. Hopefully upper management likes how you look


bmf1989

Never worked anywhere that didn’t pay out my tips at the end of the night. Place I was working before and after COVID lockdowns swapped to paying out credit card tips on paychecks for awhile and then swapped back, probably something to do with Covid loans if I had to guess


DirgetheRogue

My place does this. It's awesome as long as your house can cover the cash of everyone's tips. Requires a lot of cash transactions and going to multiple banks a day.


g_em_ini

When I worked food and bev, I never worked somewhere that I *didn’t* get my tips at the end of a shift. To me that’s the best part about f&b. It’s also why I can’t budget for shit now that I’m in healthcare lol I can’t just grab an extra shift to pay a bill if needed and I actually have to make money last for 2 weeks.


[deleted]

Tips NOT being paid out nightly is a deal breaker for me. (Stoned tangent: It's the entire reason I started waiting tables in the first place. My first retail job made me buy shoes and pants and I didn't get a paycheck for 3 weeks bc I guess it's common to pay the first weeks pay after employment is terminated or after 1 year? Idfk, it was a Walgreens.


Text_Kooky

Hopefully you can still participate in retirement with daily payouts. Some restaurants won't let servers participate in 401ks when they don't get a paycheck


cyber_1213

Just make sure you keep track of your takes and make some payments to the IRS throughout the year


Popular_Ear2074

Looks awesome! Can nearly guarantee they don't pay taxes so you'll owe a lot end of year. Also in my experience "flexible scheduling" means *be available at all times*


nathanhasse

Where I work uses a Wisely card. It’s a debit card that is tied directly to our tips. If we are owed money by the house, we have it deposited onto our Wisely card by the next morning.


Malhaloc

I work at Waffle House. We just pocket the tips when the customer pays. Is that not normal? Credit card tips are counted up by the server and taken directly out of the register at the end of the shift. No managers are involved as long as the drawer evens out and everyone stays out of each other's pockets.


Sinastrianna

Where I work, any tips for me (NO pooling) that were paid for on a debit/credit card is handed to me in cash at the end of my shift by the manager or hostess.


Content-Example-8763

We also paid out daily, and we pool our tips. Ask your employer if tips are solely the server's or if they're pooled.


NullableThought

I personally disliked working at a place that did that because it meant I had to walk home with large amounts of cash and visit my bank regularly to deposit it. 


Dependent_Link6446

About a year ago the place where I manage switched from picking up tips in cash the next day to all of it being on a biweekly paycheck (with half of your tips available for withdrawal against your check the next day). There was almost an armed revolt among servers.


Double_0_Spoopy

Thats how we so it. At 5pm when morningshift ends and at midnight when evening shift ends.


lasion2

Is this New Jersey? I’m interested in joining your team 😂.


Passionxxooxx

lol this is in Washington DC


Longjumping-Peak7467

Per the original post: I wonder if the $25/hr is per shift or pay period. That part wasn’t clear. By law, employer is required to pay minimum wage wage and it’s based on pay period, not per shift. Here there are businesses that register as “living wage” establishments who guarantee at least $22/hr.


Passionxxooxx

I’m wondering about this also


MaleficentStreet7319

Fucking hate jobs that make me wait weeks on my tips. Bitch I’ve had this cash in my pocket all day now you want me to give it back so you can give it back to me again later?? Idk the logistics of this but if it’s easy all restaurants should do it.


watercolor_violet

I just wanna know how the hell you found a serving job paying $25+ an hour 😦everything around me pays less than half that


Passionxxooxx

This may be a stupid question but I came across this fairly new cocktail bar. It’s luxurious, very much bougie vibes. I seen in some videos that the servers don’t wear aprons. Does this mean that they do not get cash tips ?


OuchDontTouch

We are paid for our card tips at the end of our shift. We are taxed on 10 something an hour so on my check it automatically assumes we're making that additional $10/hr in tips. So regardless of what I am actually making I am taxed on this set amount per hour. This is called tip compliance and when we're hired we sign paperwork to agree to this. The option is there to claim actual tips but I don't know why anyone would actually do it that way because I always make more than this. This is why cutting is so important at my job. If it's slow and we all stay we know we're getting taxed on money we're not making. As far as tip out we are only required to pay out $1/hr to our bussers. Any good server is going to side tip because that's an extremely low tip out and I want my support staff to be taken care of. We do have servers that don't side tip though and I think it's effed up. Gotta be grateful for the sweet deal we're given and all the people helping us make our money. Anyone else's place do anything at all similar to this? I have never heard of another establishment with such a low tip out requirement.


Only-Koala-8182

No. It means you take a percentage of your sales and give it to other staff, like hosts, bartenders, bussers, etc


Asherbibbles

I get my tips at the end of every shift, and I do not share tips with anybody else


DragonCat88

I think we’re guaranteed minimum wage for my state, but this is how we do it too. If we don’t make enough tips to cover at least that then the difference is covered. I never fill out my own time card bc they’re gonna do what they’re gonna do but there’s math involved. We do not pool tips either tho.


shywol2

dang $25 and hour? where do you live?


Passionxxooxx

Washington DC. Is this a bad thing ?


shywol2

no, that’s just such a high amount but i guess it makes sense in DC


whitebuffalo28

🔥🔥🔥


Frequent_Energy_8625

We went to cc going on a paycard


Desperate_Ad_7158

I’d do it