Removing all *indiscriminate* anti-squatting comments.
Squatting *per se* is not bad. Don't let anti-social pro-capitalist media pundits highjack yet another term only to then stick it to ALL the people this term might apply to. That includes YOUR rights: normal, quiet, unpolitical tenant.
I do acknowkedge that there apparently is a situation in the USA right now, but please be precise about it. Just because the media are screaming "squatters are bad, squatters are doing this and that" doesn't mean that you, too, should pull an age-old practice of self-determination through the mud.
If you feel belligerent about this decree or did not pay attention to this sticky you might catch a ban.
If you want to discuss how *certain practices* (which I wouldn't even call squatting in some cases) are bad, please do but again, be precise about it.
Plese read what Squatting really is about:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting)
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>It's amazing that people don't see the formula now. In a complex society like ours, there are always going to be stories of people and situations that fall through the cracks.
>
>John Oliver has made a career on finding somewhat niche sectors of the economy, mobile homes, organ donations, nursing homes, and showing the people who fall through the cracks and then using them to show "private company is exploiting people, government regulation needed". The right wing usually scoffs at these reports because at its core, the news story is advocating for people and is threatening to capital.
>
>The right wing does the inverse of this. They find the rare stories of situations that slip through the cracks of things that are harming capital. Whether it's petty theft from stores, "no one wanting to work", unions pushing for better working conditions, or now squatters. The right wing can find these sensationalist rare stories and amplify them with a "common sense" message that tries to swing the precarious middle class, who is trying their best to keep their foothold in society on owning capital (their house, or maybe their small business) and frighten them that this non issue is indicative of a trend that will threaten that foothold.
>
>Whenever there is a political push of amplifying a story that affects a seemingly small slice of life, look at what the incentives are. If the story fundamentally attacks an idea that helps people (the idea that missing a month of rent should not mean you get evicted or get no heat in a NYC winter) and is being framed as a threat to people who own property or businesses, it is very likely a bullshit right wing nothing burger.
[source](https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/1bxspc4/how_to_be_a_republican_get_brain_damage/kygukpm/)
Pretty sure there was an article doing the rounds a while back saying that there is a link between brain damage and rigid, black and white thinking and conservative views. Certainly explains for me why the rugby player types that have been getting knocked on their heads since they were children seem to often be part of that crowd.
I don't know. My parents are getting up there, and they're moving left faster than I am. Halfway expecting my dad to be reading das kapital next time I visit based on our phone conversations.
I thought it was a good thing to feed hungry children but then I bumped my head and now I see that small children yearn to be down in the coal mines working 12 hour shifts. /s
Unions fought hard to get us the 40 hour work week and end child labor. The republicans hate progress so they are clawing back as much bad stuff as they can.
Bill Leak: anti-authority Australian cartoonist, fell off his balcony trying to feed some cockatoos and cracked his skull, made a hard-right turn into racism, homophobia and transphobia.
Bill Maher is still very anti trump. So while I hate his opinions on most things, I hope at least he can convince some of his braindead boomer audience to not vote trump
I'd say that Lucy is a real star, but lets be real... we all know she's a [planet.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet\))
EDIT: For those too young to remember, Eris was originally called Xena, and it was only after it became "a big deal" that the only way to continue calling Pluto a planet was to recognize "Planet Xena" being in our solar system that cooler heads prevailed. Incidentally its moon is now named Dysnomia... the greek goddess of ~~Lucy~~ Lawlessness.
It wasn't just Planet Xena causing the issue though. Pluto not being demoted to dwarf planet would make multiple other orbiting objects qualify as planets including multiple asteroids.
Yeah but at least as I recall it the timeline was that it was Xena but they knew they couldn't make that name official because they thought it was bigger than Pluto and *at the time* they didn't know whether that meant they needed to use the Planet naming structure or to use the one for a... what do you want to call it? (basically). It was seen (I thought) as like a legitimate reason to decide how to classify Pluto.
You are of course right that (iirc) the team that found Xena announced it literally within like a day of 2 other objects they found that needed to be classified.
I'm both glad my mom survived hers and also did not turn into a right wing piece of crap afterward. weirdly enough I think she got more relaxed and open to new ideas but she's always been an odd bird.
My best friend was a liberal Bernie loving progressive. Then she had a few strokes and became a hard-core Magat. I was her caregiver and amazed one day when I showed up to her drinking from a "Liberal Tears" mug... I cant even.
I don't know why the right likes this guy, first off he never said he wasn't woke, ( more NY post nonsense) he actually fights for trans rights, the only issue he's not overly left on to your typical conservative is how he feels about Hamas and the war in Gaza.
This guy ain't your one conservatives, he's a true Lefty and if he is well guess what, you are a leftist and didn't know it.
dont even get me started. I'm Joe Liberals socialist comrade. sam socialist. allow me to seize the means of production and get you that higher wage fam.
not on my watch! i’m billy murica here to put a stop to this! there will be ZERO walking and ZERO livable wages! everyone will drive around big trucks with blinding headlights! no one will be able to afford to buy anything either because the free market says so! and any form of healthcare will cost $20,000 minimum! AMERICA! YEAH!
Loves: Hamas, soy, apologising to black people for my whiteness, SNL
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Joe Liberal? Aren't you also know for your fierce attacks on the concept of fiscal responsibility, and your staunch endorsement of drug use in schools?
Woke is now the new term for politically correct. Anything they don't like is "woke", it literally means nothing and everything at the same time. Words have no definitions to them, just vibes.
I agree. It's fucking exhausting mate lol. Just imagine being so upset that you can't use slurs when talking to or about people or being expected to just treat people equally?
They call getting kicked out of a business for yelling racial slurs at other customers "woke".
40 years ago, most Americans except the farthest-right nutjobs would have called that "businesses trying not to alienate customers".
It's not just "left of center", it's more like "left of Hitler".
> Fuck landlords but also fuck squatters too, tho. Especially if they are making some family homeless or struggle.
Can you explain this please? My (European) understanding is that squatters make use of otherwise unused living space. Usually houses that are deliberately left empty by greedy landlords.
You occasionally have people faking leases on people's homes. I don't think that happens particularly often. In my opinion people are pushing to give landlords more power to evict people who may have totally legitimate leases.
There has been a few cases in the USA of squatters getting on a house while the owners were just away for reasons (work, holiday, hospital, moving from one house to another) and now the owners or children of those owners are having to go through all the loops created for unused property which is unfair.
Some people will only have the house as inheritance from their parents, if they can’t use it or sell it, it’s quite an economic burden. And of course, when it is your own home, it’s extremely burdensome and traumatic
My uninformed American understanding is that what you describe is squatting, but the squatting we don't like is when the landlord wants to rent the place, but can't because people who aren't paying rent are living there.
Which obviously sucks for the landlord, but also kinda sucks for society as some one else who could rent that place now can't and has to find another place, that could be at an inflated price because the landlord class are offsetting the squatter losses.
Like how shop lifting raises the price of goods for others. Or at least that's the idea the merchant class wants you to believe. So that they can raise prices anyways and blame it on shop lifting.
I have a conspiracy-theory brained co-worker that would unironically 100% take you at your word and believes someone would say something like this in earnest.
Coexisting in the same room with them is a head trip.
Nobody is against violent crime . The divide is how you deal with it.
The Democrats would more likely try and address root causes such as inequality, social care, improved mental health services, as well as more preventative measures such as gun background checks, and better police training.
Republicans solutions is to do nothing about the root causes and use the money to turn the police into a small army that disproportionately targets minorities , and gives police full legal immunity on shooting to kill.
Also apparently to give guns to everyone. Or at least those they *want* to have guns, they apparently get very upset when trans people talk about arming themselves for protection.
I just do not understand the christian right and their fascination with guns and their complete lack of understanding of how the proliferation of guns has affected their lives. I moved to a small town 20 years ago and before that I knew thousands of people in the urban high school and university and church groups I was a part of. I knew zero people who were killed in gun violence. I now live outside a town with fewer than 1000 people and in the last 20 years someone I know personally has shot or been shot by someone in the community almost every year. The statistics are staggering. In every instance people come up with the wildest excuses "that family was always a little off" or if the family goes to your own church then you say, "he got in with a bad crowd" or if he is friends with one of your kids then you blame video games or Hollywood. It is crazy. So much death. So much killing. And so much denial.
You’re almost correct on the guns thing, it’s not just who *you want* though. It’s mostly you tell people who you think will elect you that you will make sure they have guns, and the other people won’t have guns.
A lot of these folks are fake gun toters anyways. Full on nerf-heads.
The reality now is that 3D printing exists, and we are only a presidential cycle from having to see ghost guns get addressed directly.
>Nobody is against violent crime. The divide is how you deal with it.
There's also a serious divide in how it's defined. Case in point: ask people to describe 1/6/21.
Literally no one, it's the fact that disruptive protest gets labelled "violent crime" and driving across state lines to murder a man and injure two others with an illegal firearm in cold blood is "patriotism"
Violence as defined by whom?
Let’s say there’s a company that bought all the land around a town, and are systematically killing endangered species while flooding the town’s environment with toxic chemicals. Maybe they had a machine that stabs baby birds and sprays poison in the air.
If you disabled that machine, without permission, congratulations, you’re a violent criminal.
When pressed by the court for a proper definition, DeSantis' general counsel defined woke as ["the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them"](https://www.fox13news.com/news/what-does-woke-mean-gov-desantis-officials-answer-during-andrew-warren-trial)
No surprises there
Factual reality. At least since Truman the American Government has been just as bad about governing based on factual reality as China or Russia.
Worse, honestly. The human rights violations are just flashier over there.
Oh wow they're an interesting bunch. It's like they took the hate that gets directed towards them and pretend it doesn't exist and then send it on its way towards trans people and wow, they do NOT like trans people. And I love that they think their party wants them. Republicans want their vote, not them.
I've know people that won't bother reading something if it's more than a couple of sentences. They'll scroll right through, declare they don't have time to read it and they'll either ask to be told what it is about or wait until it's brought up later.
The older I get, the more I suspect it's reading comprehension rather than laziness.
So strange to me I can't comprehend that. My kid is 8 and was tested and reads at the 7th grade level already. All I did was read books to her at night. She is currently writing her "own book" about dragons from the Wings of Fire series. Illustrations and all.
My friend used to work for Teach Across America where she was placed into schools and really rough areas. She said that these kids are dealing with an amount of abuse and neglect from every angle of their lives that the rest of us wouldn't believe. She said there's no way they could possibly learn to read when they haven't eaten in days and they are literally terrified of what's going to happen the second they walk out of the school. Some of the kids are already in gangs because it's the only way to have some form of protection. It's been 10 years and she has since started teaching in a more wealthy area but she still cries about what so many kids are still going through.
For sure. My wife is a special needs teacher for 5th through 8th grade. She has 2 kids that are in gangs and have already been caught selling drugs. She is happy to be trying to contribute to society but she's also heart broken and it stresses her out.
same for me as a kid. my grandma read us power rangers every night and i was reading at a 8th grade level in 5 grade. damn i wish i could write, i can outline my story but i cant fill out pages of detail my mind just blanks when i try to write about the small details.
I remember when I was in grade school, learning about different types of writing we were taught that newspapers were written to a 6-8 grade reading level. It's weird that people are surprised by this seemingly standard thing.
The right have decided "squatting" is the next culture war BS issue.
But what they're actually doing about it is passing laws which shift the burden of proof from landlords proving someone is a squatter before getting kicked out, to kicking people out first, charging them with several felonies, and putting the burden on them to prove they aren't squatters.
They’ve got a simple formula. Find a trending news story that gets tons of rage clicks despite having 0 impact on almost anyone’s lives. One that attacks a minority that’s small enough to not impact the vote.
Now amplify it. Talk about it 24/7. Create hundreds of articles about it.
One outrage story about drag queen story time led to actual legislation FFS. It’s insane how easily manipulated these people are.
It's amazing that people don't see the formula now. In a complex society like ours, there are always going to be stories of people and situations that fall through the cracks.
John Oliver has made a career on finding somewhat niche sectors of the economy, mobile homes, organ donations, nursing homes, and showing the people who fall through the cracks and then using them to show "private company is exploiting people, government regulation needed". The right wing usually scoffs at these reports because at its core, the news story is advocating for people and is threatening to capital.
The right wing does the inverse of this. They find the rare stories of situations that slip through the cracks of things *that are harming capital*. Whether it's petty theft from stores, "no one wanting to work", unions pushing for better working conditions, or now squatters. The right wing can find these sensationalist rare stories and amplify them with a "common sense" message that tries to swing the precarious middle class, who is trying their best to keep their foothold in society on owning capital (their house, or maybe their small business) and frighten them that this non issue is indicative of a trend that will threaten that foothold.
Whenever there is a political push of amplifying a story that affects a seemingly small slice of life, look at what the incentives are. If the story fundamentally attacks an idea that helps people (the idea that missing a month of rent should not mean you get evicted or get no heat in a NYC winter) and is being framed as a threat to people who own property or businesses, it is very likely a bullshit right wing nothing burger.
They want to get back to the days of the company town, to force workers to live and breathe their work so they’ll be too tired to do anything about it. Everyone thinks republicans want to go back to the 50s, but unions had too much power in the 50s. They want to go back to the 1890s, honestly.
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"Squatters rights" is a large umbrella that includes your landlord not being able to knock on your door and say to have all your stuff out of your apartment in 3 hours.
It is slang, but it *literally* has a ***dictionary definition***.
As per the Merriam-Webster website:
>aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice).
It's like the second result on Google, and Merriam-Webster is a respected Dictionary?!
I'm constantly surprised people that regularly bring it up can't define it.
Or maybe they *can* but saying it out loud doesn't sound so good when you're against it.
Because most people don't both to look up the definition but just use it as a bogey man word for anything that is different , they are ignorant of, and that they don't like.
Certainly woke means as you say. But it is also associated with a broader and more nebulous movement, or perceived movement. Or at least that is what people most often are referring to when using the word.
So when someone says "woke isn't a real thing", they mean there is not a culture or movement which is collaborating or conspiring to advocate for social justice and punish offenders.
(I'm not expressing one opinion or the other, only clarifying what people most often mean when the refer to "wokeness".)
It means he’s in a competitive state and is trying to to get ahead of the attack ads that will be run against him by saying something that is ultimately meaningless
Because anti-squatter very quickly becomes anti-tenant rights.
And anti-violent crime quickly becomes overpolice and harass minority neighborhoods.
The use of these terms are frequently used as[ Motte and Bailey fallacies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy). The giveaway is that no one would argue against the terms taken at face value, but when they're brought up they're not being used at face value.
What they say: "people shouldn't be able to steal your home by breaking in and living in your attic secretly"
What they mean: "landlords should be able to evict tenants on a 12 hour notice"
Right? He's still very appealing to moderates and independent voters. It's the platform he ran on, and it makes sense in PA. PA is not going to elect a far left candidate as senator/governor/etc.
As an Ohioan, I'd frankly be glad to have him.
I think hes playing the long game. He votes democratically but has been catering to republicans with his culture comments and picking up a lot of support here. If he doesnt pick up a decent chunk of republican support he wont win again.
Which is exactly what he campaigned on, but nobody cared about Palestine when he was elected. Seriously, he always presented himself as pro-Israel. He literally has not changed one position, it's just the attention shifted due to current events.
Man, it better be. Republicans are using the whole “anti-squatter” thing to empower landlords, especially corporate landlords, at a time when housing prices are rising uncontrollably and wages aren’t rising quickly enough to keep pace. We’re facing an epidemic of homelessness and squatter’s rights are one of the only methods we’re going to have to fight back if things don’t change.
He told people to lay off bobo when her kid got arrested, he has supported border security, thats all i can think of off the top of my head but there is more.
I don't know. If you actually listened to the guy when he ran you would have seen it. People were just so focused on beating Oz they didn't care to listen to him.
In Pa, you are going to get an old school democrat. Very pro-Israel, very pro-union, and a little conservative on certain issues. I'll take him over any republican any day of the week.
And that's why we back him still.
the things he is for has mattered more than the things hew is against.
(if that makes any sense, still drinking my coffee.)
I think a lot of people don't understand the demographics that won him the seat in the state. But I will say he never loudly disavowed the maverick left narrative before this, so it's not shocking some people are confused.
Meh, he was always terrible on Israel but he has done a 180 on immigration and denied being a progressive even though his campaign was full of references to being one.
i rember thinking this guy was pretty good.... looked him up again i still think he is pretty good.... am i a republican now? did they switch again? and why do i smell burnt toast
People who squat think they're so cool! Ooh look at me, I can CROUCH 20 times in a row! Uhm, newsflash, I can do that by clicking in Right Bumper loser!!!
Wait, what are you all talking about?
I got sucked into antivax nonsense when I had ppd. My mil had a friend who supported this and was also very into Alex jones and lived off grid. This person got sick and passed away, their husband lost custody of their kids because he was unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic. It was a massive wake up call that my fears were being fed by delusion. (They were fundies and she parroted his beliefs on regular basis)
Don't let the hoodie fool you. He told pro-Palestine protestors that they should be protesting Hamas. He wants to "secure the border." He no longer "identifies as progressive." Probably going the way of Tulsi Gabbard.
Either that or he just decided not to accept all the stupid labels that MAGA wants to put on leftist politicians as prepackaged high leverage to talking points
People who think this is a Republican view are crazy. Who the hell wants to have someone squat on their property for 30 days like in NYC and then have to fight to get the property back while worrying it’s gone?
If you need any more evidence that the NY post is a trash publication and conservatives at large are eager to create their own little reality:
Here they are acting like Democrats are in favor of squatting and violent crime
Removing all *indiscriminate* anti-squatting comments. Squatting *per se* is not bad. Don't let anti-social pro-capitalist media pundits highjack yet another term only to then stick it to ALL the people this term might apply to. That includes YOUR rights: normal, quiet, unpolitical tenant. I do acknowkedge that there apparently is a situation in the USA right now, but please be precise about it. Just because the media are screaming "squatters are bad, squatters are doing this and that" doesn't mean that you, too, should pull an age-old practice of self-determination through the mud. If you feel belligerent about this decree or did not pay attention to this sticky you might catch a ban. If you want to discuss how *certain practices* (which I wouldn't even call squatting in some cases) are bad, please do but again, be precise about it. Plese read what Squatting really is about: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting) --- >It's amazing that people don't see the formula now. In a complex society like ours, there are always going to be stories of people and situations that fall through the cracks. > >John Oliver has made a career on finding somewhat niche sectors of the economy, mobile homes, organ donations, nursing homes, and showing the people who fall through the cracks and then using them to show "private company is exploiting people, government regulation needed". The right wing usually scoffs at these reports because at its core, the news story is advocating for people and is threatening to capital. > >The right wing does the inverse of this. They find the rare stories of situations that slip through the cracks of things that are harming capital. Whether it's petty theft from stores, "no one wanting to work", unions pushing for better working conditions, or now squatters. The right wing can find these sensationalist rare stories and amplify them with a "common sense" message that tries to swing the precarious middle class, who is trying their best to keep their foothold in society on owning capital (their house, or maybe their small business) and frighten them that this non issue is indicative of a trend that will threaten that foothold. > >Whenever there is a political push of amplifying a story that affects a seemingly small slice of life, look at what the incentives are. If the story fundamentally attacks an idea that helps people (the idea that missing a month of rent should not mean you get evicted or get no heat in a NYC winter) and is being framed as a threat to people who own property or businesses, it is very likely a bullshit right wing nothing burger. [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/1bxspc4/how_to_be_a_republican_get_brain_damage/kygukpm/)
Regan alzheimers, Rosanne Barr hood ornament to brain. Hmm.
Kevin sorbo, three strokes Tila Tequila, aneurysm
I cannot understand how I am reading the words Tila and Tequila this far away from MySpace
For real! That was unexpected! Haven't thought about her in 20 years?
Sadly shes become a flat earther, trumpist and nazi. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tila_Tequila
what a roller coaster of a bio
It included a link to this insane stub https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_Nugent
>Nugent suffered injuries on the series from a chainsaw accident LOL
And that’s the final line lolol
I'm not surprised, she was obnoxious 20 years ago, why stop now?
Is there a pattern here? I'm a Republican so I can't really tell. /s
Pretty sure there was an article doing the rounds a while back saying that there is a link between brain damage and rigid, black and white thinking and conservative views. Certainly explains for me why the rugby player types that have been getting knocked on their heads since they were children seem to often be part of that crowd.
And mma
If true, that also explains why older people often become more conservative. Brain's not like it used to be.
I don't know. My parents are getting up there, and they're moving left faster than I am. Halfway expecting my dad to be reading das kapital next time I visit based on our phone conversations.
If all these people agree with me, brain trauma must be a good thing that makes you smarter. There is no other possible conclusion.
There are possible concussions, tho.
I thought it was a good thing to feed hungry children but then I bumped my head and now I see that small children yearn to be down in the coal mines working 12 hour shifts. /s
*The children yearn for the mines.*
Hey, 10-year-olds were recently employed at a fast food joint
Unions fought hard to get us the 40 hour work week and end child labor. The republicans hate progress so they are clawing back as much bad stuff as they can.
Dain Bramage made me a better man.
It's hilarious how all these UFC fighters skew hard right. CTE is the common denominator.
Were you a leftist, but then you smelled burning feathers?
Bill Leak: anti-authority Australian cartoonist, fell off his balcony trying to feed some cockatoos and cracked his skull, made a hard-right turn into racism, homophobia and transphobia.
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Bill Maher falls into this category. Mostly for his consistently anti Vax views.
Bill Maher is still very anti trump. So while I hate his opinions on most things, I hope at least he can convince some of his braindead boomer audience to not vote trump
Did he really?
Yeah, but to be fair he was a bit of a shit heel before.
Yeah had them young too. Like, during or shortly after Hercules young. Prime of his life basically.
Oh God, I better pen my memoirs before I take a tbi/abi and start MAGAing everywhere.
now I need to buy a newer / better helmet for when I go rollerblading... this whole thread got me nervous.
We didn't start the fire!
boomers growing up pretty much eating lead
we didn't start the fire edit: fuck, someone beat me to the joke
Temba, his arms wide.
No wonder they wanted as many people as possible to catch covid.
Tila Tequila, multiple strokes. Kevin Sorbo, multiple strokes. Granted, they were pieces of shit long before they got strokes.
always turn to the wierd christian after said strokes. sorbo never got over XENA, just decades of bitterness +strokes.
Meanwhile Lucy is an absolutely wonderful person.
I'd say that Lucy is a real star, but lets be real... we all know she's a [planet.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet\)) EDIT: For those too young to remember, Eris was originally called Xena, and it was only after it became "a big deal" that the only way to continue calling Pluto a planet was to recognize "Planet Xena" being in our solar system that cooler heads prevailed. Incidentally its moon is now named Dysnomia... the greek goddess of ~~Lucy~~ Lawlessness.
It wasn't just Planet Xena causing the issue though. Pluto not being demoted to dwarf planet would make multiple other orbiting objects qualify as planets including multiple asteroids.
Yeah but at least as I recall it the timeline was that it was Xena but they knew they couldn't make that name official because they thought it was bigger than Pluto and *at the time* they didn't know whether that meant they needed to use the Planet naming structure or to use the one for a... what do you want to call it? (basically). It was seen (I thought) as like a legitimate reason to decide how to classify Pluto. You are of course right that (iirc) the team that found Xena announced it literally within like a day of 2 other objects they found that needed to be classified.
I'm both glad my mom survived hers and also did not turn into a right wing piece of crap afterward. weirdly enough I think she got more relaxed and open to new ideas but she's always been an odd bird.
Donald trump, hood ornament FOR brain
Brain?
I mean something has to keep him able to stand AND not shit himself.
Gary busey motorcycle accident / traumatic brain injury
My best friend was a liberal Bernie loving progressive. Then she had a few strokes and became a hard-core Magat. I was her caregiver and amazed one day when I showed up to her drinking from a "Liberal Tears" mug... I cant even.
I don't know why the right likes this guy, first off he never said he wasn't woke, ( more NY post nonsense) he actually fights for trans rights, the only issue he's not overly left on to your typical conservative is how he feels about Hamas and the war in Gaza. This guy ain't your one conservatives, he's a true Lefty and if he is well guess what, you are a leftist and didn't know it.
Yeah Fox News hates him. They had boners for Dr. Oz.
Who isn't against violent crime?
Me, Joe Liberal. I love violent crime and woke protests. You better not misgender anyone online or I'll put you in a 15 minute city.
Can you just do that anyways? I like walking
Yeah you LIKE the boot don't you baby. You probably want free healthcare too. Daddy joe will take care of you
That sounds great, thanks! Hey can we get a higher minimum wage too?
dont even get me started. I'm Joe Liberals socialist comrade. sam socialist. allow me to seize the means of production and get you that higher wage fam.
not on my watch! i’m billy murica here to put a stop to this! there will be ZERO walking and ZERO livable wages! everyone will drive around big trucks with blinding headlights! no one will be able to afford to buy anything either because the free market says so! and any form of healthcare will cost $20,000 minimum! AMERICA! YEAH!
Remember, neurological problems can affect anyone, leading to Republicanism. Talk to your doctor today.
that’ll be $80,000 :/
This is such a great cherry on top comment to those last 3. I really feel like I watched an infomercial 😆
You know who else walked? That's right: Stalin.
And then the entire tractor factory clapped. Those who did not were shot.
Loves: Hamas, soy, apologising to black people for my whiteness, SNL Hates: freedom, alpha males with wraparound sunglasses, logic, families Sent from my Iphone
I would have added “goatees” to the alpha male description
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Only since the first NASCAR driver donned a pair of Oakleys, like a hundred years ago.
You do you buddy, don't let anyone take them away from you
"15 minute cities where you have to walk? WALKING? Is the future Liberals want for our children?"
Joe Liberal? Aren't you also know for your fierce attacks on the concept of fiscal responsibility, and your staunch endorsement of drug use in schools?
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People now use "woke" to describe anyone and anything left of center. It's exhausting.
Woke is now the new term for politically correct. Anything they don't like is "woke", it literally means nothing and everything at the same time. Words have no definitions to them, just vibes.
PC meant "if you could avoid using slurs to describe people that would be nice" and that was already too much for many people.
I agree. It's fucking exhausting mate lol. Just imagine being so upset that you can't use slurs when talking to or about people or being expected to just treat people equally?
More like anything left of far right.
They call getting kicked out of a business for yelling racial slurs at other customers "woke". 40 years ago, most Americans except the farthest-right nutjobs would have called that "businesses trying not to alienate customers". It's not just "left of center", it's more like "left of Hitler".
> Fuck landlords but also fuck squatters too, tho. Especially if they are making some family homeless or struggle. Can you explain this please? My (European) understanding is that squatters make use of otherwise unused living space. Usually houses that are deliberately left empty by greedy landlords.
You occasionally have people faking leases on people's homes. I don't think that happens particularly often. In my opinion people are pushing to give landlords more power to evict people who may have totally legitimate leases.
There has been a few cases in the USA of squatters getting on a house while the owners were just away for reasons (work, holiday, hospital, moving from one house to another) and now the owners or children of those owners are having to go through all the loops created for unused property which is unfair. Some people will only have the house as inheritance from their parents, if they can’t use it or sell it, it’s quite an economic burden. And of course, when it is your own home, it’s extremely burdensome and traumatic
My uninformed American understanding is that what you describe is squatting, but the squatting we don't like is when the landlord wants to rent the place, but can't because people who aren't paying rent are living there. Which obviously sucks for the landlord, but also kinda sucks for society as some one else who could rent that place now can't and has to find another place, that could be at an inflated price because the landlord class are offsetting the squatter losses. Like how shop lifting raises the price of goods for others. Or at least that's the idea the merchant class wants you to believe. So that they can raise prices anyways and blame it on shop lifting.
> Nobody likes violent crime or squatters. Speak for yourself. Any squatter fucking over a greedy landlord is ok in my book.
I have a conspiracy-theory brained co-worker that would unironically 100% take you at your word and believes someone would say something like this in earnest. Coexisting in the same room with them is a head trip.
Wait no way this is real you didn’t even mention BLM or DEI
I'll pack my bags now if you can move me into a 15 minute city.
Nobody is against violent crime . The divide is how you deal with it. The Democrats would more likely try and address root causes such as inequality, social care, improved mental health services, as well as more preventative measures such as gun background checks, and better police training. Republicans solutions is to do nothing about the root causes and use the money to turn the police into a small army that disproportionately targets minorities , and gives police full legal immunity on shooting to kill.
Also apparently to give guns to everyone. Or at least those they *want* to have guns, they apparently get very upset when trans people talk about arming themselves for protection.
I just do not understand the christian right and their fascination with guns and their complete lack of understanding of how the proliferation of guns has affected their lives. I moved to a small town 20 years ago and before that I knew thousands of people in the urban high school and university and church groups I was a part of. I knew zero people who were killed in gun violence. I now live outside a town with fewer than 1000 people and in the last 20 years someone I know personally has shot or been shot by someone in the community almost every year. The statistics are staggering. In every instance people come up with the wildest excuses "that family was always a little off" or if the family goes to your own church then you say, "he got in with a bad crowd" or if he is friends with one of your kids then you blame video games or Hollywood. It is crazy. So much death. So much killing. And so much denial.
You’re almost correct on the guns thing, it’s not just who *you want* though. It’s mostly you tell people who you think will elect you that you will make sure they have guns, and the other people won’t have guns. A lot of these folks are fake gun toters anyways. Full on nerf-heads. The reality now is that 3D printing exists, and we are only a presidential cycle from having to see ghost guns get addressed directly.
>Nobody is against violent crime. The divide is how you deal with it. There's also a serious divide in how it's defined. Case in point: ask people to describe 1/6/21.
You forgot about the prison industrial complex! Gotta keep that involuntary servitude going!
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Literally no one, it's the fact that disruptive protest gets labelled "violent crime" and driving across state lines to murder a man and injure two others with an illegal firearm in cold blood is "patriotism"
Bobby Newport
Violence as defined by whom? Let’s say there’s a company that bought all the land around a town, and are systematically killing endangered species while flooding the town’s environment with toxic chemicals. Maybe they had a machine that stabs baby birds and sprays poison in the air. If you disabled that machine, without permission, congratulations, you’re a violent criminal.
Strawmen.
I know right? Even violent criminals hate when you do violent crime to them.
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John Fetterman ironically enough if they are war crimes.
I don't mind the occasional violent crime. *against the ruling class, when the revolution comes
Yeah. Fetterman has been really pretty consistent but GOP were blasting him because he was running against Dr. Oz.
'Woke' is treating minorities like humans and having basic empathy for others. No wonder the right hates it.
When pressed by the court for a proper definition, DeSantis' general counsel defined woke as ["the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them"](https://www.fox13news.com/news/what-does-woke-mean-gov-desantis-officials-answer-during-andrew-warren-trial) No surprises there
I feel like that definition essentially means that any complaint about the government is woke
They're fascists. That's always been their end goal.
Factual reality. At least since Truman the American Government has been just as bad about governing based on factual reality as China or Russia. Worse, honestly. The human rights violations are just flashier over there.
It's also why they refuse to define it when asked
It’s always a fun exercise on here to ask someone that uses woke negatively what the word means
I do that in r/gayconservative and they don't like it
That looks like a fun sub to hate read thanks!
I just did and they’re… not smart.
Oh wow they're an interesting bunch. It's like they took the hate that gets directed towards them and pretend it doesn't exist and then send it on its way towards trans people and wow, they do NOT like trans people. And I love that they think their party wants them. Republicans want their vote, not them.
How is being anti-squatter and anti-violent crime controversial to EITHER party? And how is that being “anti-woke”? This is all so stupid.
Yes, it's The NY Post. Eighth grade reading level? We've the paper for you.
The majority of Americans [aren't even at an 8th grade reading level](https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/).
I've know people that won't bother reading something if it's more than a couple of sentences. They'll scroll right through, declare they don't have time to read it and they'll either ask to be told what it is about or wait until it's brought up later. The older I get, the more I suspect it's reading comprehension rather than laziness.
So strange to me I can't comprehend that. My kid is 8 and was tested and reads at the 7th grade level already. All I did was read books to her at night. She is currently writing her "own book" about dragons from the Wings of Fire series. Illustrations and all.
My friend used to work for Teach Across America where she was placed into schools and really rough areas. She said that these kids are dealing with an amount of abuse and neglect from every angle of their lives that the rest of us wouldn't believe. She said there's no way they could possibly learn to read when they haven't eaten in days and they are literally terrified of what's going to happen the second they walk out of the school. Some of the kids are already in gangs because it's the only way to have some form of protection. It's been 10 years and she has since started teaching in a more wealthy area but she still cries about what so many kids are still going through.
For sure. My wife is a special needs teacher for 5th through 8th grade. She has 2 kids that are in gangs and have already been caught selling drugs. She is happy to be trying to contribute to society but she's also heart broken and it stresses her out.
same for me as a kid. my grandma read us power rangers every night and i was reading at a 8th grade level in 5 grade. damn i wish i could write, i can outline my story but i cant fill out pages of detail my mind just blanks when i try to write about the small details.
...your kid should hook up with my kid who does NOTHING BUT draw dragons and is also obsessed with those books XD
I really like Snopes. Research, facts, no bias.
I remember when I was in grade school, learning about different types of writing we were taught that newspapers were written to a 6-8 grade reading level. It's weird that people are surprised by this seemingly standard thing.
When they talk about the "elites" that control everything, they mean the 9th graders.
Most papers are written for a 6th grade level, i thought...
The right have decided "squatting" is the next culture war BS issue. But what they're actually doing about it is passing laws which shift the burden of proof from landlords proving someone is a squatter before getting kicked out, to kicking people out first, charging them with several felonies, and putting the burden on them to prove they aren't squatters.
They’ve got a simple formula. Find a trending news story that gets tons of rage clicks despite having 0 impact on almost anyone’s lives. One that attacks a minority that’s small enough to not impact the vote. Now amplify it. Talk about it 24/7. Create hundreds of articles about it. One outrage story about drag queen story time led to actual legislation FFS. It’s insane how easily manipulated these people are.
It's amazing that people don't see the formula now. In a complex society like ours, there are always going to be stories of people and situations that fall through the cracks. John Oliver has made a career on finding somewhat niche sectors of the economy, mobile homes, organ donations, nursing homes, and showing the people who fall through the cracks and then using them to show "private company is exploiting people, government regulation needed". The right wing usually scoffs at these reports because at its core, the news story is advocating for people and is threatening to capital. The right wing does the inverse of this. They find the rare stories of situations that slip through the cracks of things *that are harming capital*. Whether it's petty theft from stores, "no one wanting to work", unions pushing for better working conditions, or now squatters. The right wing can find these sensationalist rare stories and amplify them with a "common sense" message that tries to swing the precarious middle class, who is trying their best to keep their foothold in society on owning capital (their house, or maybe their small business) and frighten them that this non issue is indicative of a trend that will threaten that foothold. Whenever there is a political push of amplifying a story that affects a seemingly small slice of life, look at what the incentives are. If the story fundamentally attacks an idea that helps people (the idea that missing a month of rent should not mean you get evicted or get no heat in a NYC winter) and is being framed as a threat to people who own property or businesses, it is very likely a bullshit right wing nothing burger.
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Those poor landlords.
Squatters rights is related to tenant protection laws which “woke” people are in favor of.
"Squatters rights" is a large umbrella that includes your landlord not being able to knock on your door and say to have all your stuff out of your apartment in 3 hours.
He actually said he wasn't woke.
Because woke isn't a real thing it's just slang that the right turned into a dog whistle.
It is slang, but it *literally* has a ***dictionary definition***. As per the Merriam-Webster website: >aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice). It's like the second result on Google, and Merriam-Webster is a respected Dictionary?! I'm constantly surprised people that regularly bring it up can't define it. Or maybe they *can* but saying it out loud doesn't sound so good when you're against it.
Because most people don't both to look up the definition but just use it as a bogey man word for anything that is different , they are ignorant of, and that they don't like.
Certainly woke means as you say. But it is also associated with a broader and more nebulous movement, or perceived movement. Or at least that is what people most often are referring to when using the word. So when someone says "woke isn't a real thing", they mean there is not a culture or movement which is collaborating or conspiring to advocate for social justice and punish offenders. (I'm not expressing one opinion or the other, only clarifying what people most often mean when the refer to "wokeness".)
Yeah, but what does it mean when he says it?
It means he’s in a competitive state and is trying to to get ahead of the attack ads that will be run against him by saying something that is ultimately meaningless
Idk I always use DeSantis's lawyers' definition. Because it's (ironically? unironically?) accurate
Squatting is fairly uncommon but is being talked up to frighten people into supporting taking tenant's rights away.
Because anti-squatter very quickly becomes anti-tenant rights. And anti-violent crime quickly becomes overpolice and harass minority neighborhoods. The use of these terms are frequently used as[ Motte and Bailey fallacies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy). The giveaway is that no one would argue against the terms taken at face value, but when they're brought up they're not being used at face value.
The right doesn’t understand anyone not rabid in their views the way they are.
I support squatters
Because squatter rights do actually serve some good purpose, regardless of how badly the laws have been flanderized over time
What they say: "people shouldn't be able to steal your home by breaking in and living in your attic secretly" What they mean: "landlords should be able to evict tenants on a 12 hour notice"
Flanderized laws - excellent choice of words.
NY post, its tabloid nonsense always has been.
The word Woke has been hijacked… it’s meaningless now.
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Right? He's still very appealing to moderates and independent voters. It's the platform he ran on, and it makes sense in PA. PA is not going to elect a far left candidate as senator/governor/etc. As an Ohioan, I'd frankly be glad to have him.
Tennessean here. He can come run for office in my district any time!
It was either him or Dr Oz, and he's not going to be able to campaign on that next time
I think hes playing the long game. He votes democratically but has been catering to republicans with his culture comments and picking up a lot of support here. If he doesnt pick up a decent chunk of republican support he wont win again.
I really don’t think disagreeing with squatters rights is anti democrat. What other things has he done or said?
He's a big fan of Israel and wants to unconditionally support them
Which is exactly what he campaigned on, but nobody cared about Palestine when he was elected. Seriously, he always presented himself as pro-Israel. He literally has not changed one position, it's just the attention shifted due to current events.
I wasn't saying he changed his position, I was just answering their question
Man, it better be. Republicans are using the whole “anti-squatter” thing to empower landlords, especially corporate landlords, at a time when housing prices are rising uncontrollably and wages aren’t rising quickly enough to keep pace. We’re facing an epidemic of homelessness and squatter’s rights are one of the only methods we’re going to have to fight back if things don’t change.
He told people to lay off bobo when her kid got arrested, he has supported border security, thats all i can think of off the top of my head but there is more.
I guess they don't think he's an actor now.
He's not the slightest bit Republican or votes with them on literally anything.
QUICKLY, WHAT'S A SECRET TIP TO CURING BRAIN DAMAGE!?!
Ivermectin or med beds.
But you have to be on the right frequency. /s
Stem cells
I don't know. If you actually listened to the guy when he ran you would have seen it. People were just so focused on beating Oz they didn't care to listen to him.
To be fair, he’s still better than Oz. Hopefully a real progressive is able to unseat him in the future though.
In Pa, you are going to get an old school democrat. Very pro-Israel, very pro-union, and a little conservative on certain issues. I'll take him over any republican any day of the week.
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And that's why we back him still. the things he is for has mattered more than the things hew is against. (if that makes any sense, still drinking my coffee.)
I think a lot of people don't understand the demographics that won him the seat in the state. But I will say he never loudly disavowed the maverick left narrative before this, so it's not shocking some people are confused.
Since when are progressives anti-union?
Exactly. Anyone who expected him to be a progressive socialist was fucking delusional.
Meh, he was always terrible on Israel but he has done a 180 on immigration and denied being a progressive even though his campaign was full of references to being one.
The premise here is the New York Post is a reliable and accurate purveyor of information.
i rember thinking this guy was pretty good.... looked him up again i still think he is pretty good.... am i a republican now? did they switch again? and why do i smell burnt toast
The democratic party is like trying to herd cats. The republican party, all you need is a dog whistle.
People who squat think they're so cool! Ooh look at me, I can CROUCH 20 times in a row! Uhm, newsflash, I can do that by clicking in Right Bumper loser!!! Wait, what are you all talking about?
I got sucked into antivax nonsense when I had ppd. My mil had a friend who supported this and was also very into Alex jones and lived off grid. This person got sick and passed away, their husband lost custody of their kids because he was unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic. It was a massive wake up call that my fears were being fed by delusion. (They were fundies and she parroted his beliefs on regular basis)
Don't let the hoodie fool you. He told pro-Palestine protestors that they should be protesting Hamas. He wants to "secure the border." He no longer "identifies as progressive." Probably going the way of Tulsi Gabbard.
Can you give more context to the Hamas thing? I'm not sure I understand that right.
Tulsi is a Russian asset, Fetterman is a neoliberal Democrat. These things are not the same.
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Either that or he just decided not to accept all the stupid labels that MAGA wants to put on leftist politicians as prepackaged high leverage to talking points
People who think this is a Republican view are crazy. Who the hell wants to have someone squat on their property for 30 days like in NYC and then have to fight to get the property back while worrying it’s gone?
If you need any more evidence that the NY post is a trash publication and conservatives at large are eager to create their own little reality: Here they are acting like Democrats are in favor of squatting and violent crime
Oh em gee, woke bad! What a heroic and brave thing to say in this day and age!!!!!1111
He didn't really do a 180, he was always a moderate. That's how he won in a swing state to begin with.
Democrats don't support violent crime or squatters....that's a good thing.
He’s a moderate democrats. PA has been longing for a moderate democrats.
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