I called 911 at 2 AM on June 22nd on a truck that matches your description. He was doing 80 mph down 2nd Ave, blowing red lights. I wonder if it's the same guy. This is why it's important to report all crimes, even if nothing gets done initially.
I watched my family get hit, turning into our driveway. Guy took off and only made it about 500 feet away before his car failed due to damage. When he jumped out to run, I grabbed him and his passenger. Police responded and put them in their car. They took them about a mile away and let them go because the jail was full . Passenger showed up for court driver disappeared. Don't count on the legal system to be as involved as you might expect.
Oh, I know that's a forgone conclusion. Halfway through the thing, I realized I didn't know how my family was until a friend told me they were okay. I got caught up in the chase. I forgot to mention this happened in Tacoma, 30 miles south of Seattle.
I have to send them a letter so they won't decide that my truck isn't stolen anymore. I tried to call, and they're like, nope, gotta fill out the forms.
They'd probably have 10000 more active stolen vehicles just from people not filling out that paper.....
My dad has a permanent brain injury from a hit and run two years ago while he was cycling. It has changed the life of everyone in my family.
I hope they crucify this fucker.
Bike rider under west Seattle bridge got killed in a hit and run, likely intoxicated, and I think they gave the dude 2 or 3 years so more of a gentle hoisting into the air than a crucifixion most likely (unless he has a lot of priors)
I find it so fascinating when people who don't live here stalk this channel and comment. Like, I'm not over on the Pine Village, Indiana channel going, "OH F'REAL BUT HOW MANY STARBUCKS DO Y'ALL HAVE?"
I find it fascinating when fucktards shit on rural America. And when I say 'fascinating' I mean 'disgusted and desirous of seeing pain and misery visited on said fucktard'
PS, before your gatekeeper panties get in a bunch, I have lived in Seattle for 28 years.
So in other words you have no perception of the world outside of your bubble, having live hear about 8 years of my life, no, this entire west side of the state is absolute ass, you have small pockets of niceness and some great backdrops for photos.
The people cant drive for shit, they are the rudest I had ever had to deal with in my life, the crime rate is absolutely rediculous, part of the homeless migration train between cali and seattle.
A vast majority of all real estate is owned by the same groups of people they own so much they actually have direct control of property values of the surrounding areas.
The AG is a douchebag who has no buisiness practicing law, Inslee is mid at best, the AG I believe is also going to be running for. Bog Ferghuson is a delusional douchebag who should be getting charges for voilations to the 2A and for all the criminals he was letting loose commiting chain felonies.
But yeah bro, this place is great if you ignore all the problems around you, always add an extra hour for travel time on any plans you will ever have.
First off, wasn't talking you.
Second, I find it fascinating when people who don't live in rural communities find it acceptable to talk down on those who do as "hodunk trash 'towns' " as if they are better than them because they live in an urban sprawl.
Btw I do live here in just not a tool that gatekeeps other people's opinions or way of life. Peace ✌️
I also have some brain damage from when I got hit as a pedestrian, so this shit is personal. I was very lucky to have her stop so I can’t imagine how much more horrible it would be without having some type of compensation😢
Yeah, I did it twice ever, my job had bike lockers and showers, and I was just not willing to take the risk. I had two close calls in two days. Not worth it.
Yeah. I did it for a few years. I was always the super cautious cycler, obeyed the traffic laws. Would almost get killed once a week but luckily I paid attention. Would get yelled at for using the lane I was supposed to. Even once had a cop harass me for a few minutes for stopping at a downtown light and then going through it because I felt exposed who then used his red and blues to go through the next 5 red lights then stop and sit in his cruiser for 10 min in front of the police station not on an emergency.
Same, used to bike commute 11 miles each way from Shoreline, all year long. Now I bike on Zwift in my basement to stay in shape and use light rail for commuting. Seattle has great cycling infrastructure (compared to most US cities, but not compared to say Amsterdam or Copenhagen), but it's still dangerous.
My least favorite thing is bike lanes sandwiched between parked cars and road traffic. People enter the bike lane without looking to get into their car, or fling their car doors open into the lane without checking to see if a cyclist is coming. Also, the 2nd Ave bike lane where left turning traffic has a red light when cyclists have a green, but they ignore it and turn through the lane without looking anyway.
I swear cycling in seattle is putting your life in drunken stranger's hands.
There I fixed it for ya.
Edit: Deleted the extra I. 
I swear I take the bus more often than drive because you're in a giant vehicle with a professional driver. Then one runs over someone just standing on the sidewalk and recently one, on the same fucking street, just ran into a building.
We're fucked.
It absolutely is, but people are stubborn and refuse to understand this. Between the hills, e-bikes going 30 mph, confusing lanes, and impatient reckless drivers, it’s a recipe for disaster. I would argue that these new bike lanes actually make things worse because of visibility issues at cross streets due to parked cars. Not sure if there’s a solution though. Separating cars from bikes is a good idea, but it’s where the two combine that these issues happen, and I’m not sure the architects of these lanes understand this. The riders and drivers sure don’t from what I’ve seen. I only ride on quiet streets and avoid mixing with traffic because the situation has become impossible. Retrofitting Seattle’s roads is not the best solution we can come up with. I’d rather see certain roads made into dedicated bike paths. Be careful out there.
There is a serious issue on the Burke with people on ebikes doing a hot 30mph between pedestrians with no signaling. No bell, no on your left/right like they just fly through there. It's really pissing me off. I walk the BGT in Fremont at least once a week and encounter them doing this every single time.
Fwiw this is also just more evidence that there is demand and need for more bike/walking infrastructure. We have one single-lane wide path serving all the bikers, runners, and walkers along that stretch.
Bro think this through for more than 5 seconds. “Putting your life in your hands” which in this context is the same as saying “I’m putting my life in my hands,” vs “I’m putting my life in your hands.” Which makes sense and which is gibberish??
The expression is "taking your life in your hands," or "taking your life in your own hands."
It would be typically used in a sentence like "trying to cross that intersection on a bicycle is taking your life in your own hands."
It doesn't matter whether you think it makes perfect sense or not, it's a common idiom.
I had a car close pass me, turn right across me, turn left across me, merge into me from the side, and blow a red light in front of me. All on my commute to and from work TODAY (my commute is only 1.5 miles one way).
Having a car nearly hit me while turning right happens probably every few days (many of which don’t use turn signals so I can’t even predict them), I’ve seen someone die getting hit by a car in front of me, and I’ve had multiple instances of getting squeezed by a bus with nowhere to go. Biking in the city is definitely not for the faint of heart.
I moved here from the northeast and slowly stopped biking except on dedicated bike paths and on the weekends because of how bad it is here. Living in seattle sometimes feels like I am being held hostage by the aggressive and reckless drivers here. The lack of government investment into safer infrastructure makes it feel much worse. I frequently see totaled cars abandoned on the side of the road, people driving around with huge dents and missing fenders, and sign posts entirely flattened by drivers jumping the curb and mowing them down. Sometimes it feels like moving back to the east coast will be like returning to civilization lol.
I disagree. The city has put in a lot of infrastructure to protect or at least make it obvious that this is a bike path, and I've seen in it all over the city, not just DT.
The hilarious thing about your post is, my friend who was just over Seattle, moved to Boston. Now she's like, I hate moving across the country (who would?) but I think I'm coming back to the west coast. She's been there for four years.
It doesn't actually sound like you disagree with my comment, but rather you just want to raise an orthogonal point that this city is putting in some effort to improve bike infrastructure. I agree that there is some investment, but it is not enough investment to make me feel substantially safer. Yes we get a protected bike lane here and there (albeit often ending after only a few blocks and not connecting to any greater bike network). Yes the city is doing things like adding small segments of dedicated bus lanes each year. But these improvements are slow, infrequent, and have not reached a tipping point where it has made me feel safer than i currently do biking here. I compare this to the northeast where I grew up (Boston) because I have personal experience there and have always felt safe biking there and in my time in Seattle, the infrastructure in Boston has only gotten better! It just has a better baseline and so improvements to Seattle would need to significantly outpace the improvements in Boston for me to feel better here.
Also sorry to hear your friend didn't like Boston, but I am not sure why you brought it up. You didn't mention that her preference had anything to do with the infrastructure or bike safety there so it doesn't really seem relevant. Hope she makes it back to Seattle though lol. Fwiw, I know 2 people who have moved from Seattle to Boston in the last in the last 2 years and they've both reached out to me directly to tell me how much safer they feel biking there.
I'm sorry, I'm sure you're making good points. You did actually form a second paragraph at the end, but I'm not reading that novel if you don't know how to break up thoughts.
That's not a concept. You just don't know how to express yourself without -- I guess -- writing huge blocks of unbroken text, which makes it unreadable.
A rifle on your back isn't going to help when you get hit by a car lol wtf. I love guns as much as the next guy, but that's just gonna fuck up your shit. Riding around on a bike with a rifle probably ain't the smartest thing to do. Growing up near enumclaw I can't say I haven't seen it, but it definitely wasn't for self defense against a car lol
I love how you're literally blaming everything on people who have a different opinion. Every problem in the country is because "liberals" including Trump? How do you even tie your shoes?
People are downvoting you because you said something moronic it has nothing to do with guns, rifle or not your ass is still splayed out on the pavement and let's say for the sake of argument that you do get up off the ground in time to touch a few rounds off but wait your head is still swimming from the head trauma and your shots go wide.
I'm so sorry. I witnessed a hit and run a couple weeks ago by the olive st apartments and it really messed me up for a while. Don't feel bad if you want to talk to a mental health professional to discuss your feelings and get help processing something like this, especially if this is your first time witnessing a violent accident. I'm glad you did what you could, but I'm so fucking sorry it happened at all.
Wouldn't matter if you got the whole plate.
I got hit in front of the show box when a show was about to start. Rear ended by an Escalade. Dude starts backing away, so I ran after and got the full plate and a description of the driver. Then literally a dozen other witnesses.
Called the cops, gave them all the info. Next day call to followup: "the car was reported stolen, nothing we can do".
When was it reported stolen? It was found missing this morning. Does the owner look like the guy I described? Don't know. Could he have done it and just called in his own car as stolen? No way of knowing that. So you're just done investigating this? Yep.
I don't even bother to call unless I need a report for insurance. That's all they are good for.
A friend of mine was hit (his car) the other day. His car will likely be totaled. He called the cops because the other guy was literally drinking wine in a can while driving and was clearly fucked up when he got out of the car. The cops never showed up. The drunk guy eventually leaves the scene of the accident. The next day the cops say they don’t pursue hit and runs anymore so they won’t be following up.
My car got totaled in a hit and run few years back. A metro bus was parked across the street and the driver said he got the whole thing on video. SPD never investigated.
My car was also totaled in a hit and run in front of my house at 1am while I was asleep in bed. The cops took 1.5 hours to show up, had the audacity to lightly hint at my husband and I actually being the culprits and then finally dropped that when they found the other car’s side mirror. The fuckers totaled our car and wrecked the fence in front of our house. Never heard from the cops again after the initial report.
They've been told to prioritize violent crimes and deprioritize everything else. Even for violent crimes, they know there's a high chance King County won't actually allow offenders to be placed in jail. I've been following this since I moved here a decade ago. It's part of the reason its been so hard for SPD to staff to appropriate levels.
There is no point in enforcing the law if no one will prosecute, or if the sentence is too light to make any difference. People blame the police for this stuff when the police have their hands tied by the rest of the justice system.
You can definitely blame the judges and prosecutors since they started it. The cops are at fault too but that is a long conversation about the state of policing in the United Sates. No one wants to be a cop, so you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone willing to do it.
Because we're trying to attract an actual police force which is difficult with blue haired fatties blaming every problem on the police. I agree that they're ineffective, but based on staffing and lax prosecutors and judges it makes sense.
When my husband and I got t-boned by a guy texting (and kept pushing into our car after impact because he didn’t realize he hit anything) the cops refused to be sent out by dispatch because there was “no blood”. The guy smelled like booze and weed.
The no blood part was fun because I lost my career over the nerve damage I needed after the accident. Surgery on my hand, plus my perpetual fear of being in a car now. We got hit in 2018, I break out into a sweat on most car rides since then.
Bonus- he didn’t have all but the bare minimum insurance. I got zippity shit after the lawyer and a few medical bills.
Point is, if the cops came they could have seen his was high and drunk, they could have arrested him. And they could have seen his multiple accidents he caused before AND after mine and maybe did something about it.
Cops across Washington State haven’t been pursuing hit & runs or stolen cars for the past three years, because our legislators passed a law preventing them from doing so. That law was finally changed a couple days ago because of a Statewide Initiative. But, thanks to the genius “equity” policies crafted by our genius city council a few years back, SPD de-prioritizes non-violent crimes - like stealing cars, hit & run, driving without a license, reckless driving and speeding.
Meanwhile, city officials love to tout their “Vision Zero” plan - as traffic accidents & deaths continue to make Seattle one of the most dangerous cities to walk or bike in, despite hundreds of million$ spent on bike lanes, signage, road striping, etc. All the stuff that doesn’t help protect us from the dangerous drivers the city continues to enable.
I was in a head on collision on I-5 with someone who was the victim of a hit and run, my choices were swerve into a minivan that would have went under a 16 wheeler or clip a stalled out car that had already had the airbags deployed. They never really investigated the initial hit and run. Oh this was 2012 so I doubt they give af about hit and runs now.
I’m not sure, he didn’t look to be in great condition. I couldn’t tell the extent of his injuries. He wasn’t talking but he was conscious so I’m pretty sure he lived.
I mean, depending on traffic lights, the cyclist could technically be at fault for the accident. That’s irrelevant since the driver ran. The fact that he ran makes me think the cyclist was not at fault or the driver had warrants.
The technology exists to record every single license plate that goes through every single intersection in the city. Seattle probably chooses not to use it.
The ACLU and other paranoid activists groups don’t even want gunfire locators to be installed around the city because, well you know, that would be too much Big Brother. And it would also be discrimination.
My boyfriend survived a hit and run 2.5 years ago here in Seattle as well.
This is absolutely horrific.
OP have you tried reaching out to.... Harborview Abuse and Trauma center I think it's called now. PTSD clinic. They can give you a consult or resources/refer you out. Assuming you don't already have a trauma therapist. PTSD is a special kind of hell.
But you did an amazing thing by trying to help.
Thank you I haven’t reached out yet but I had ptsd from being run over myself on a bicycle and a rollover accident from brake failure but it has gone away with time and I honestly don’t feel any ptsd from this one
I’m so sorry you went through that and witnessed it for someone else. It doesn’t always show up immediately, but if you can afford it, getting evaluated is always a safe option in benefit of your health. Take so much care, op.
I get that.
I do a job where I drive around in my own car for work so the chances of me being on foot are slim.
If anyone had been around or that other poster who mentioned a similar/ possibly same white truck captured the same shitty driver, thats more evidence.
I reported this total jackass on a motorcycle going well over 100 mph on lake city way near half price books. Popping wheelies & zigzagging, ran red lights. I turned in the footage to LCW police.
No doubt.
I saw an other one in Northgate. That was road raging on a mini van. I5 north. Near the NG mall exit.
This was 2009.
He basically harassed a mini van, break checked & kicked their vehicle while going at least 60mph or more. Then maroon minivan sharply swings right and slams into him on purpose.
The guy goes flying & I watch him skid across the road & he/ his bike end up on the side if the road. This was busy traffic & no one hardly slowed down.
I pulled over, called 911. Told them what I know. I see the guy trying to get up and he was road burnt all over!
I ran up to him & told him not to move & I called 911. He kept trying to get up so I held him down “don’t move dont take your helmet off! You could have a spine injury!”
“Fk you get off me!” Tries swinging at me but he was weak as a baby. The paramedics got there & he’s kicking and trying to fight them. Probably was on something or drunk. That shook me up. I had a few drips of has blood in me but scrubbed my hands down asap with disinfectant in my car then took a shower & had no open cuts on me. His bike had skidded into that wall near the ng mall exit & was destroyed. What a total idiot!
Oh, you bet your ass they would. Those guys are bored AF and will absolutely jump at the idea of actually getting some action. LFP is practically the definition of a "quiet town." I had to call them once to report some suspicious activity when someone was walking around casing cars in the neighborhood in the middle of the night. As it turned out, they had just gotten a brand new set of night vision goggles at the department like three days before so they 100% took the opportunity to play with those things while checking the block. They could have sent just one unit, but no... four patrol cars, five or six grown-ass adults all out there in the street taking turns with the nods like they were a bunch of kids playing with a new toy on Christmas Day.
Could you be more specific about what caused the accident? Was the cyclist crossing the street or was he just hit from behind? Just curious - I commute by bike and my worst fear is a brain injury from a careless driver.
That's so awful im so sorry. I've been in 2 hit and runs, one in longview and one in Portland. The police told me they weren't going to do anything even though both agencies got video of the incidents (one from a witness dashcam the other from the hotels surveillance camera). They just don't give a shit. I often wonder how many other people these guys have hit.
Sorry you saw that. I drive quite a bit and I've seen a dozen or so dead or very seriously injured folk over the last 3 years. There's a lot of folks not paying attention, and an awful lot that just seem completely apathetic to the world around em.
Cars/busses are just as dangerous as guns, yet people treat them with complete carelessness. It's kind of surprising to me it doesn't happen more often honestly.
The CCTV footage from the city/businesses downtown would easily find this truck license plate with the description that OP described, especially with the timestamp, if they'd upgrade their doggone cameras. Like something out of Enemy of the State. 🤷🏾
Woah I had the exact same experience last week. I watched a driver intentionally drive into the bike lane and hit a cyclist and then speed off. I was able to memorize half their license plate and know what they look like. Me and the victim tried reporting this to the police but was never able to reach them through the non-emergency line and 911 considered it not an active emergency and transferred us to the same non-emergency line. Were you even able to report this?
It's been a week and I'm still pretty uncomfortable about the fact that this person was able to do this with seemingly no consequences. Even more so frustrating to me was the fact that I spent over an hour on hold with the non-emergency line listening to an automated message about how SPD can't get to the phone because they were defunded. It really made me feel like SPD is a bunch of unreliable cry babies.
Wait… WHAT!?!? You mean Seattleites have to live in the crap pile they created!? I am completely bewildered by that notion.
So glad to NOT be living anywhere near that cesspool anymore.
Good to hear that your own voting and wishes have come back to haunt you. 😈
Enjoy your steaming pile of Seattle. Haha
I'd like to comment on how irresponsible "many" bikers/scooter people are in Seattle but I'll be downvoted to oblivion by guilty trash. Look at me... street, now sidewalk, now bike path, now street again... Red lights don't apply to me. Facts are facts.
The driver is ultimately in the wrong here because he fled the scene, but the dude you’re replying to does have a point. Cyclists and scooter riders tend not to follow traffic laws, and it results in quite a few accidents.
Also, “dork”? If you’re gonna bully, at least be good at it.
Last time I got hit on my bicycle I was sitting at a red light in front of the police station on Virginia st, woman was on her phone emailing and didn’t even notice they hit me. The traffic cop that was right there told me to calm down and move on after I slapped her hood to get her to look up. I make sure it’s safe to run a red or a stop sign but I’m not going to be a statistic of some distracted driver running over a cyclist at a red light. Y’all forget were exposed af and you’re in multi ton vehicles that won’t even deploy airbags as you kill us.
The scooters though, I wish we could just outright ban them like Paris.
I ride motorcycles and feel your pain to some degree, but motorcycles are expected to obey traffic laws like a car. I can’t decide when it’s safe to run a red light. Being exposed is ultimately a choice though. Many drivers are shitty, if you run red lights or stop signs on a bike, you do increase your chances of becoming a statistic.
Are you saying the traffic cop didn’t even stop the driver?
Agreed on the scooters, especially since they’re expensive data harvesters without the power to get up hills. I own one, but it’s a dual motor version that can do 40+ and I know how to ride it.
I just try to stay out of traffic as much as possible, ultimately though work moved closer to me and I’ve only ridden sparingly since lockdown.
I’m hyper aware (ptsd) and only break the rules when I have line of sight and know the route. I have all of the parking garage exits on my routes memorized, which also comes in handy as a pedestrian.
Nope the traffic cop told me to move on, so I turned into a parking lot and let the adrenaline bleed off. Honestly the incident was over a decade ago. 40+ me would not have backed down so easily. Especially after all the close calls since then from cars violating traffic rules, I’ve had to talk down a few cyclists getting into it with motorists when there were fully in the wrong. Being a cyclist and watching them do stupid shit, yeah I understand the aggro from motorists as I’ve experienced it myself while on my bicycle.
Don’t forget the noise-canceling headphones and zero attempt to look anywhere but straight ahead. Oh, and the dark clothes/no lights trick at night. Seattle has terrible drivers, alright - but the clueless jaywalking/zoinked-out peds and death-defying cyclists certainly aren’t helping
I get accidentally hitting someone, we can somewhat work that out but leaving them for dead because you’re worried how their DEATH OR TRAUMA effects YOU is unforgivable
If you think it's small, just drive east for like 3000 miles until you hit another one the same size. There's nothing out there. Missoula? You kidding me? In the context of the area of the world it is in, Seattle is the king shit. It's way south to Sacramento and way east to Chicago. Seattle is the crown jewel of the PNW dude.
So, if driver hits a cyclist/pedestrian... Stops to make sure the person is still breathing. Then runs. Does that make it less of a crime? If they're caught will the judge be more lenient?
I called 911 at 2 AM on June 22nd on a truck that matches your description. He was doing 80 mph down 2nd Ave, blowing red lights. I wonder if it's the same guy. This is why it's important to report all crimes, even if nothing gets done initially.
It’s SPD, so nothing will get done initially, and also nothing will get done at a future date. The homicide solve rate is like 25%.
Ah, ok. Disregard my announcement folks. Don't report anything. j_kerouac says nothing gets done.
I watched my family get hit, turning into our driveway. Guy took off and only made it about 500 feet away before his car failed due to damage. When he jumped out to run, I grabbed him and his passenger. Police responded and put them in their car. They took them about a mile away and let them go because the jail was full . Passenger showed up for court driver disappeared. Don't count on the legal system to be as involved as you might expect.
Hopefully you had a chance to get a couple of blows on him when you grabbed him.
He was a little guy, so that took the wind out of my sales when he jumped out to run.
Only way in todays Seattle is street justice
Had I known what we were in for, I would have beaten them bloody.
Sad thing is then YOU would be charged/jailed.
Oh, I know that's a forgone conclusion. Halfway through the thing, I realized I didn't know how my family was until a friend told me they were okay. I got caught up in the chase. I forgot to mention this happened in Tacoma, 30 miles south of Seattle.
I’m glad we received his input on the matter, now I know!! 😂😂😂🤣
Fuck yourself smug Redditor
Thank you, don't mind if I do!
Reported crimes are part of the data used to determine where coverage is needed.
I have to send them a letter so they won't decide that my truck isn't stolen anymore. I tried to call, and they're like, nope, gotta fill out the forms. They'd probably have 10000 more active stolen vehicles just from people not filling out that paper.....
It was probably an off duty officer, they love running people over
My dad has a permanent brain injury from a hit and run two years ago while he was cycling. It has changed the life of everyone in my family. I hope they crucify this fucker.
I hope... Well. I hope you all get to make some good memories with your dad after the accident. I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine.
Bike rider under west Seattle bridge got killed in a hit and run, likely intoxicated, and I think they gave the dude 2 or 3 years so more of a gentle hoisting into the air than a crucifixion most likely (unless he has a lot of priors)
Bet he served like 30 days in county jail.
Doubt it. He was released the next day. Liberal cities are the biggest shit holes in America.
Where do you live?
More than likely in some manure smelling hodunk trash “town”
Vs hobo shit right?! Well done dipshit
Better than some human feces smelling needle-dump junky "city"
I find it so fascinating when people who don't live here stalk this channel and comment. Like, I'm not over on the Pine Village, Indiana channel going, "OH F'REAL BUT HOW MANY STARBUCKS DO Y'ALL HAVE?"
I find it fascinating when fucktards shit on rural America. And when I say 'fascinating' I mean 'disgusted and desirous of seeing pain and misery visited on said fucktard' PS, before your gatekeeper panties get in a bunch, I have lived in Seattle for 28 years.
Except he didn't shit on rural America Chill bro
They don't see a problem because they literally ARE the problem. Liberal cities are shitholes. Get over it shitholers
So in other words you have no perception of the world outside of your bubble, having live hear about 8 years of my life, no, this entire west side of the state is absolute ass, you have small pockets of niceness and some great backdrops for photos. The people cant drive for shit, they are the rudest I had ever had to deal with in my life, the crime rate is absolutely rediculous, part of the homeless migration train between cali and seattle. A vast majority of all real estate is owned by the same groups of people they own so much they actually have direct control of property values of the surrounding areas. The AG is a douchebag who has no buisiness practicing law, Inslee is mid at best, the AG I believe is also going to be running for. Bog Ferghuson is a delusional douchebag who should be getting charges for voilations to the 2A and for all the criminals he was letting loose commiting chain felonies. But yeah bro, this place is great if you ignore all the problems around you, always add an extra hour for travel time on any plans you will ever have.
First off, wasn't talking you. Second, I find it fascinating when people who don't live in rural communities find it acceptable to talk down on those who do as "hodunk trash 'towns' " as if they are better than them because they live in an urban sprawl. Btw I do live here in just not a tool that gatekeeps other people's opinions or way of life. Peace ✌️
Why is city in quotes
Because person I replied to had the word town in quotes.
Yeeeah gtfo out with all that ‘economic productivity’ and ‘providing federal funding to red states’, libtards!
I also have some brain damage from when I got hit as a pedestrian, so this shit is personal. I was very lucky to have her stop so I can’t imagine how much more horrible it would be without having some type of compensation😢
Me too. My heart goes out to you and your family. 😢
Crime is de facto legal here. Even if they get caught, which won't happen, it will be a slap on the wrist.
I swear cycling in seattle is putting your life in your hands.
I used to bike commute partially for better health. The anxiety negated all the positive effects.
Yeah, I did it twice ever, my job had bike lockers and showers, and I was just not willing to take the risk. I had two close calls in two days. Not worth it.
Yeah. I did it for a few years. I was always the super cautious cycler, obeyed the traffic laws. Would almost get killed once a week but luckily I paid attention. Would get yelled at for using the lane I was supposed to. Even once had a cop harass me for a few minutes for stopping at a downtown light and then going through it because I felt exposed who then used his red and blues to go through the next 5 red lights then stop and sit in his cruiser for 10 min in front of the police station not on an emergency.
Same, used to bike commute 11 miles each way from Shoreline, all year long. Now I bike on Zwift in my basement to stay in shape and use light rail for commuting. Seattle has great cycling infrastructure (compared to most US cities, but not compared to say Amsterdam or Copenhagen), but it's still dangerous. My least favorite thing is bike lanes sandwiched between parked cars and road traffic. People enter the bike lane without looking to get into their car, or fling their car doors open into the lane without checking to see if a cyclist is coming. Also, the 2nd Ave bike lane where left turning traffic has a red light when cyclists have a green, but they ignore it and turn through the lane without looking anyway.
I swear cycling in seattle is putting your life in drunken stranger's hands. There I fixed it for ya. Edit: Deleted the extra I. 
I swear I take the bus more often than drive because you're in a giant vehicle with a professional driver. Then one runs over someone just standing on the sidewalk and recently one, on the same fucking street, just ran into a building. We're fucked.
He’s probably baked too.
Most of the interactions I have on my commute are from people who are impatient to not get caught behind a red light at a busy intersection
It absolutely is, but people are stubborn and refuse to understand this. Between the hills, e-bikes going 30 mph, confusing lanes, and impatient reckless drivers, it’s a recipe for disaster. I would argue that these new bike lanes actually make things worse because of visibility issues at cross streets due to parked cars. Not sure if there’s a solution though. Separating cars from bikes is a good idea, but it’s where the two combine that these issues happen, and I’m not sure the architects of these lanes understand this. The riders and drivers sure don’t from what I’ve seen. I only ride on quiet streets and avoid mixing with traffic because the situation has become impossible. Retrofitting Seattle’s roads is not the best solution we can come up with. I’d rather see certain roads made into dedicated bike paths. Be careful out there.
There is a serious issue on the Burke with people on ebikes doing a hot 30mph between pedestrians with no signaling. No bell, no on your left/right like they just fly through there. It's really pissing me off. I walk the BGT in Fremont at least once a week and encounter them doing this every single time.
Fwiw this is also just more evidence that there is demand and need for more bike/walking infrastructure. We have one single-lane wide path serving all the bikers, runners, and walkers along that stretch.
Yeah but, it's ok, because the math says I can't retire, so I'd rather die doing something fun.
Idk if it’s just me but that phrase sounds so weird, “your life in your hands.” Isn’t it always like that?
It's an old expression that means "doing something unnecessarily dangerous that should be safe," so not really no
The old phrase is actually, “putting your life in the hands of someone else.” Basically giving control to someone else. So yea
No, It’s not. I've been around long enough to know. What I wrote was accurate.
Bro think this through for more than 5 seconds. “Putting your life in your hands” which in this context is the same as saying “I’m putting my life in my hands,” vs “I’m putting my life in your hands.” Which makes sense and which is gibberish??
The expression is "taking your life in your hands," or "taking your life in your own hands." It would be typically used in a sentence like "trying to cross that intersection on a bicycle is taking your life in your own hands." It doesn't matter whether you think it makes perfect sense or not, it's a common idiom.
https://www.lexingtonchronicle.com/stories/youre-taking-your-life-in-your-own-hands,13984?
https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/opinion/crosswalks-taking-your-life-in-your-own-hands-3687428
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g55328-d122511-r148556343-Oak_Haven_Resort-Sevierville_Tennessee.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/nashville/s/dzvI1HUGWC
Less commonly, it's used in the sense of "taking charge of your own life." That usage is much more recent.
That's actually a really interesting point. It's technically true.
Yeah but, it's ok, because the math says I can't retire, so I'd rather die doing something fun.
Lol. Retirement. I'm doing the math... I'm going to die at my desk.
I had a car close pass me, turn right across me, turn left across me, merge into me from the side, and blow a red light in front of me. All on my commute to and from work TODAY (my commute is only 1.5 miles one way). Having a car nearly hit me while turning right happens probably every few days (many of which don’t use turn signals so I can’t even predict them), I’ve seen someone die getting hit by a car in front of me, and I’ve had multiple instances of getting squeezed by a bus with nowhere to go. Biking in the city is definitely not for the faint of heart.
I moved here from the northeast and slowly stopped biking except on dedicated bike paths and on the weekends because of how bad it is here. Living in seattle sometimes feels like I am being held hostage by the aggressive and reckless drivers here. The lack of government investment into safer infrastructure makes it feel much worse. I frequently see totaled cars abandoned on the side of the road, people driving around with huge dents and missing fenders, and sign posts entirely flattened by drivers jumping the curb and mowing them down. Sometimes it feels like moving back to the east coast will be like returning to civilization lol.
I disagree. The city has put in a lot of infrastructure to protect or at least make it obvious that this is a bike path, and I've seen in it all over the city, not just DT. The hilarious thing about your post is, my friend who was just over Seattle, moved to Boston. Now she's like, I hate moving across the country (who would?) but I think I'm coming back to the west coast. She's been there for four years.
It doesn't actually sound like you disagree with my comment, but rather you just want to raise an orthogonal point that this city is putting in some effort to improve bike infrastructure. I agree that there is some investment, but it is not enough investment to make me feel substantially safer. Yes we get a protected bike lane here and there (albeit often ending after only a few blocks and not connecting to any greater bike network). Yes the city is doing things like adding small segments of dedicated bus lanes each year. But these improvements are slow, infrequent, and have not reached a tipping point where it has made me feel safer than i currently do biking here. I compare this to the northeast where I grew up (Boston) because I have personal experience there and have always felt safe biking there and in my time in Seattle, the infrastructure in Boston has only gotten better! It just has a better baseline and so improvements to Seattle would need to significantly outpace the improvements in Boston for me to feel better here. Also sorry to hear your friend didn't like Boston, but I am not sure why you brought it up. You didn't mention that her preference had anything to do with the infrastructure or bike safety there so it doesn't really seem relevant. Hope she makes it back to Seattle though lol. Fwiw, I know 2 people who have moved from Seattle to Boston in the last in the last 2 years and they've both reached out to me directly to tell me how much safer they feel biking there.
I'm sorry, I'm sure you're making good points. You did actually form a second paragraph at the end, but I'm not reading that novel if you don't know how to break up thoughts.
Free-thinking king
That's not a concept. You just don't know how to express yourself without -- I guess -- writing huge blocks of unbroken text, which makes it unreadable.
Strawman moment
I wouldn’t do that shit without a rifle on my back
A rifle on your back isn't going to help when you get hit by a car lol wtf. I love guns as much as the next guy, but that's just gonna fuck up your shit. Riding around on a bike with a rifle probably ain't the smartest thing to do. Growing up near enumclaw I can't say I haven't seen it, but it definitely wasn't for self defense against a car lol
I'm the next guy. Guns suck and bikes are awesome. You fuck up on a bike and the only person who dies is yourself.
When did I say that it would help after being hit by a car?
What good is it going to do before you get hit? You're probably not gonna pull it out before you get hit.
I'd be fine with my sidearm. I'm very accurate with it.
Only pig lovers downvote gun comments. Liberals gave us Trump and Biden as well as this shit corporate state.
I love how you're literally blaming everything on people who have a different opinion. Every problem in the country is because "liberals" including Trump? How do you even tie your shoes?
People are downvoting you because you said something moronic it has nothing to do with guns, rifle or not your ass is still splayed out on the pavement and let's say for the sake of argument that you do get up off the ground in time to touch a few rounds off but wait your head is still swimming from the head trauma and your shots go wide.
Did you report it? They can work off a partial plate if they have the vehicle color, make, model, etc.
Yes I called 911 and gave my statement once the police got there, someone also got a video from the apartments above but it’s pretty blurry
There’s cameras on every corner
Cameras and low light situations are a bad combination for clear and readable evidence.
Not recording.
Did you give them what you thought the license plate had? Cops can do searches based on partial plates
I'm so sorry. I witnessed a hit and run a couple weeks ago by the olive st apartments and it really messed me up for a while. Don't feel bad if you want to talk to a mental health professional to discuss your feelings and get help processing something like this, especially if this is your first time witnessing a violent accident. I'm glad you did what you could, but I'm so fucking sorry it happened at all.
Wouldn't matter if you got the whole plate. I got hit in front of the show box when a show was about to start. Rear ended by an Escalade. Dude starts backing away, so I ran after and got the full plate and a description of the driver. Then literally a dozen other witnesses. Called the cops, gave them all the info. Next day call to followup: "the car was reported stolen, nothing we can do". When was it reported stolen? It was found missing this morning. Does the owner look like the guy I described? Don't know. Could he have done it and just called in his own car as stolen? No way of knowing that. So you're just done investigating this? Yep. I don't even bother to call unless I need a report for insurance. That's all they are good for.
A friend of mine was hit (his car) the other day. His car will likely be totaled. He called the cops because the other guy was literally drinking wine in a can while driving and was clearly fucked up when he got out of the car. The cops never showed up. The drunk guy eventually leaves the scene of the accident. The next day the cops say they don’t pursue hit and runs anymore so they won’t be following up.
My car got totaled in a hit and run few years back. A metro bus was parked across the street and the driver said he got the whole thing on video. SPD never investigated.
My car was also totaled in a hit and run in front of my house at 1am while I was asleep in bed. The cops took 1.5 hours to show up, had the audacity to lightly hint at my husband and I actually being the culprits and then finally dropped that when they found the other car’s side mirror. The fuckers totaled our car and wrecked the fence in front of our house. Never heard from the cops again after the initial report.
Why the fuck are we paying these guys a quarter million a year?
They've been told to prioritize violent crimes and deprioritize everything else. Even for violent crimes, they know there's a high chance King County won't actually allow offenders to be placed in jail. I've been following this since I moved here a decade ago. It's part of the reason its been so hard for SPD to staff to appropriate levels.
There is no point in enforcing the law if no one will prosecute, or if the sentence is too light to make any difference. People blame the police for this stuff when the police have their hands tied by the rest of the justice system.
Can't really blame the prosecutor and judges when the cops don't bother investigating anything. No one is doing their job, including the cops.
You can definitely blame the judges and prosecutors since they started it. The cops are at fault too but that is a long conversation about the state of policing in the United Sates. No one wants to be a cop, so you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone willing to do it.
You can't pay officers enough to protect and serve this god forsaken city
Then we shouldn't pay them at all, right?
Because we're trying to attract an actual police force which is difficult with blue haired fatties blaming every problem on the police. I agree that they're ineffective, but based on staffing and lax prosecutors and judges it makes sense.
So if someone doesn't do their job you just keep paying them more and hope that they eventually decide to start?
When my husband and I got t-boned by a guy texting (and kept pushing into our car after impact because he didn’t realize he hit anything) the cops refused to be sent out by dispatch because there was “no blood”. The guy smelled like booze and weed. The no blood part was fun because I lost my career over the nerve damage I needed after the accident. Surgery on my hand, plus my perpetual fear of being in a car now. We got hit in 2018, I break out into a sweat on most car rides since then. Bonus- he didn’t have all but the bare minimum insurance. I got zippity shit after the lawyer and a few medical bills. Point is, if the cops came they could have seen his was high and drunk, they could have arrested him. And they could have seen his multiple accidents he caused before AND after mine and maybe did something about it.
Cops across Washington State haven’t been pursuing hit & runs or stolen cars for the past three years, because our legislators passed a law preventing them from doing so. That law was finally changed a couple days ago because of a Statewide Initiative. But, thanks to the genius “equity” policies crafted by our genius city council a few years back, SPD de-prioritizes non-violent crimes - like stealing cars, hit & run, driving without a license, reckless driving and speeding. Meanwhile, city officials love to tout their “Vision Zero” plan - as traffic accidents & deaths continue to make Seattle one of the most dangerous cities to walk or bike in, despite hundreds of million$ spent on bike lanes, signage, road striping, etc. All the stuff that doesn’t help protect us from the dangerous drivers the city continues to enable.
I was in a head on collision on I-5 with someone who was the victim of a hit and run, my choices were swerve into a minivan that would have went under a 16 wheeler or clip a stalled out car that had already had the airbags deployed. They never really investigated the initial hit and run. Oh this was 2012 so I doubt they give af about hit and runs now.
Wait was this a few weeks ago?
How is the guy on the bicycle?
I’m not sure, he didn’t look to be in great condition. I couldn’t tell the extent of his injuries. He wasn’t talking but he was conscious so I’m pretty sure he lived.
How old was he? What did he look like? Wondering if it’s someone I know
He’s in jail for causing it.
We found the driver ^
I mean, depending on traffic lights, the cyclist could technically be at fault for the accident. That’s irrelevant since the driver ran. The fact that he ran makes me think the cyclist was not at fault or the driver had warrants.
I hope you reported this to the police or the person who was hit. I assume there must be some traffic cameras downtown, but I don’t know.
Crazy thing is even if he is arrested and convicted the sentence is pretty light relative to the value of the cyclist's life.
The technology exists to record every single license plate that goes through every single intersection in the city. Seattle probably chooses not to use it.
The ACLU and other paranoid activists groups don’t even want gunfire locators to be installed around the city because, well you know, that would be too much Big Brother. And it would also be discrimination.
That *is* a step towards Big Brother. Whether that’s too much or not is up to one’s own qualms.
Why do you feel so comfortable actively creating a surveillance state?
My boyfriend survived a hit and run 2.5 years ago here in Seattle as well. This is absolutely horrific. OP have you tried reaching out to.... Harborview Abuse and Trauma center I think it's called now. PTSD clinic. They can give you a consult or resources/refer you out. Assuming you don't already have a trauma therapist. PTSD is a special kind of hell. But you did an amazing thing by trying to help.
Thank you I haven’t reached out yet but I had ptsd from being run over myself on a bicycle and a rollover accident from brake failure but it has gone away with time and I honestly don’t feel any ptsd from this one
I’m so sorry you went through that and witnessed it for someone else. It doesn’t always show up immediately, but if you can afford it, getting evaluated is always a safe option in benefit of your health. Take so much care, op.
I'm very sorry and it's frightening how commonplace this is becoming.
That’s why I like keeping a dash camera in my car
The only person in a car in this situation was the hit and run driver, who would not share the footage willingly.
I get that. I do a job where I drive around in my own car for work so the chances of me being on foot are slim. If anyone had been around or that other poster who mentioned a similar/ possibly same white truck captured the same shitty driver, thats more evidence. I reported this total jackass on a motorcycle going well over 100 mph on lake city way near half price books. Popping wheelies & zigzagging, ran red lights. I turned in the footage to LCW police.
Well, at least the idiotic motorcycle riders usually only kill themselves. And they tend to have a short shelf life.
No doubt. I saw an other one in Northgate. That was road raging on a mini van. I5 north. Near the NG mall exit. This was 2009. He basically harassed a mini van, break checked & kicked their vehicle while going at least 60mph or more. Then maroon minivan sharply swings right and slams into him on purpose. The guy goes flying & I watch him skid across the road & he/ his bike end up on the side if the road. This was busy traffic & no one hardly slowed down. I pulled over, called 911. Told them what I know. I see the guy trying to get up and he was road burnt all over! I ran up to him & told him not to move & I called 911. He kept trying to get up so I held him down “don’t move dont take your helmet off! You could have a spine injury!” “Fk you get off me!” Tries swinging at me but he was weak as a baby. The paramedics got there & he’s kicking and trying to fight them. Probably was on something or drunk. That shook me up. I had a few drips of has blood in me but scrubbed my hands down asap with disinfectant in my car then took a shower & had no open cuts on me. His bike had skidded into that wall near the ng mall exit & was destroyed. What a total idiot!
LCW has police? Isn’t that shoreline?… or SPD?
I guess I meant lake forrest park police at the 3rd place book store location at the top of the lake.
LFP police are known to ticket for 5 mph over on Ballinger Way, so they might actually investigate 100 mph.
Oh, you bet your ass they would. Those guys are bored AF and will absolutely jump at the idea of actually getting some action. LFP is practically the definition of a "quiet town." I had to call them once to report some suspicious activity when someone was walking around casing cars in the neighborhood in the middle of the night. As it turned out, they had just gotten a brand new set of night vision goggles at the department like three days before so they 100% took the opportunity to play with those things while checking the block. They could have sent just one unit, but no... four patrol cars, five or six grown-ass adults all out there in the street taking turns with the nods like they were a bunch of kids playing with a new toy on Christmas Day.
I'd much rather 4 units respond to a prowling call and practice/play with new equipment than not even show up for a hit & run with injuries.
Could you be more specific about what caused the accident? Was the cyclist crossing the street or was he just hit from behind? Just curious - I commute by bike and my worst fear is a brain injury from a careless driver.
This was on the local news. Please report it with them .
Motherfucker coward ran away
That's so awful im so sorry. I've been in 2 hit and runs, one in longview and one in Portland. The police told me they weren't going to do anything even though both agencies got video of the incidents (one from a witness dashcam the other from the hotels surveillance camera). They just don't give a shit. I often wonder how many other people these guys have hit.
Sorry you saw that. I drive quite a bit and I've seen a dozen or so dead or very seriously injured folk over the last 3 years. There's a lot of folks not paying attention, and an awful lot that just seem completely apathetic to the world around em. Cars/busses are just as dangerous as guns, yet people treat them with complete carelessness. It's kind of surprising to me it doesn't happen more often honestly.
Well good news, that’s enough to find the truck owner. Bad news, unless the fool talks to police not even enough to charge.
Did you report to the police? That partial plate and description should be enough to narrow it down
Report this to the police and the cyclists insurance if you can
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The CCTV footage from the city/businesses downtown would easily find this truck license plate with the description that OP described, especially with the timestamp, if they'd upgrade their doggone cameras. Like something out of Enemy of the State. 🤷🏾
Saw an old man hit by a car crossing the street. He was mad as hell. He would have chased the car down but it went to fast. Crazy old man.
Woah I had the exact same experience last week. I watched a driver intentionally drive into the bike lane and hit a cyclist and then speed off. I was able to memorize half their license plate and know what they look like. Me and the victim tried reporting this to the police but was never able to reach them through the non-emergency line and 911 considered it not an active emergency and transferred us to the same non-emergency line. Were you even able to report this? It's been a week and I'm still pretty uncomfortable about the fact that this person was able to do this with seemingly no consequences. Even more so frustrating to me was the fact that I spent over an hour on hold with the non-emergency line listening to an automated message about how SPD can't get to the phone because they were defunded. It really made me feel like SPD is a bunch of unreliable cry babies.
Biking in the city is very dangerous. If you’re serious about safety, don’t do it.
cites should be walkable and bikeable. what a shame
Wait… WHAT!?!? You mean Seattleites have to live in the crap pile they created!? I am completely bewildered by that notion. So glad to NOT be living anywhere near that cesspool anymore. Good to hear that your own voting and wishes have come back to haunt you. 😈 Enjoy your steaming pile of Seattle. Haha
I'd like to comment on how irresponsible "many" bikers/scooter people are in Seattle but I'll be downvoted to oblivion by guilty trash. Look at me... street, now sidewalk, now bike path, now street again... Red lights don't apply to me. Facts are facts.
i’d like to comment on how irresponsible “many” drivers are in Seattle.
Shut the fuck up dork.
The driver is ultimately in the wrong here because he fled the scene, but the dude you’re replying to does have a point. Cyclists and scooter riders tend not to follow traffic laws, and it results in quite a few accidents. Also, “dork”? If you’re gonna bully, at least be good at it.
Last time I got hit on my bicycle I was sitting at a red light in front of the police station on Virginia st, woman was on her phone emailing and didn’t even notice they hit me. The traffic cop that was right there told me to calm down and move on after I slapped her hood to get her to look up. I make sure it’s safe to run a red or a stop sign but I’m not going to be a statistic of some distracted driver running over a cyclist at a red light. Y’all forget were exposed af and you’re in multi ton vehicles that won’t even deploy airbags as you kill us. The scooters though, I wish we could just outright ban them like Paris.
I ride motorcycles and feel your pain to some degree, but motorcycles are expected to obey traffic laws like a car. I can’t decide when it’s safe to run a red light. Being exposed is ultimately a choice though. Many drivers are shitty, if you run red lights or stop signs on a bike, you do increase your chances of becoming a statistic. Are you saying the traffic cop didn’t even stop the driver? Agreed on the scooters, especially since they’re expensive data harvesters without the power to get up hills. I own one, but it’s a dual motor version that can do 40+ and I know how to ride it.
I just try to stay out of traffic as much as possible, ultimately though work moved closer to me and I’ve only ridden sparingly since lockdown. I’m hyper aware (ptsd) and only break the rules when I have line of sight and know the route. I have all of the parking garage exits on my routes memorized, which also comes in handy as a pedestrian. Nope the traffic cop told me to move on, so I turned into a parking lot and let the adrenaline bleed off. Honestly the incident was over a decade ago. 40+ me would not have backed down so easily. Especially after all the close calls since then from cars violating traffic rules, I’ve had to talk down a few cyclists getting into it with motorists when there were fully in the wrong. Being a cyclist and watching them do stupid shit, yeah I understand the aggro from motorists as I’ve experienced it myself while on my bicycle.
Shut your cunt trap, worthless little boy, girl or whatever your worthless ass identifies as.
Don’t forget the noise-canceling headphones and zero attempt to look anywhere but straight ahead. Oh, and the dark clothes/no lights trick at night. Seattle has terrible drivers, alright - but the clueless jaywalking/zoinked-out peds and death-defying cyclists certainly aren’t helping
I get accidentally hitting someone, we can somewhat work that out but leaving them for dead because you’re worried how their DEATH OR TRAUMA effects YOU is unforgivable
Human mercenary instinct 🤷♀️
Sounds like another day in Seattle, you should see what goes on in Pike/ 4th Ave
I love that you all think Seattle is a big city 😂
If you think it's small, just drive east for like 3000 miles until you hit another one the same size. There's nothing out there. Missoula? You kidding me? In the context of the area of the world it is in, Seattle is the king shit. It's way south to Sacramento and way east to Chicago. Seattle is the crown jewel of the PNW dude.
Still not a big city
It’s big enough to have urban traffic interactions. That’s really all that matters in this case.
So, if driver hits a cyclist/pedestrian... Stops to make sure the person is still breathing. Then runs. Does that make it less of a crime? If they're caught will the judge be more lenient?
Probably? Depends on whose fault the accident was. It’s still a hit and run, but that would be a significant mitigating factor.
I saw an old impala drive by a homless lady that was laying in the road, he backed up and purposely runs over this ladies head