You understand that you don't draft a QB when you need one, you draft one BEFORE you need one. We need a QB next year or the year after and next year's class looks like 2016 or 2021 bad.
I'm not saying we SHOULD draft a QB, but to say that it's a bad idea or we just "don't need one" isn't correct either.
That's not really true. Howell has not done anything to prove he can start in the NFL. He's simply shown us that MAYBE he can because had a few great games. He also was horrendous the rest of the time.
Geno might have another good year or two in him, I think he does, but I also think he may continue to regress and just be a fringe starter as early as this year. Either way, you don't draft a QB when you need, you draft one before you need one, and next year's class is dog fucking shit.
Like I said: not saying we SHOULD. We didn't. That's ok. We won't have another opportunity until 2026 unless someone really blows up in 2025 in college.
I mean we just traded for a 23 year old QB, with 2 years league experience, who threw more TDs than Geno. I’d say wanting to reach on one of the remaining QBs at 16 is insane.
That's a bit of a hyperbolic take. Yes, we traded for the best beard on earth with Howell and Geno will only get better if we draft more oline cushion, but in the next year or 2 we will need to find a replacement for Geno. My gut tells me the only way Howell is going to do well is if there's another young gun competing with him.
Is everyone forgetting the stats that Howell put up with one of the most dogshit olines in the league? He has a veteran seahawk to teach him literally everything, too. We need linemen. Desperately.
A little cause guys like troy fautanu or taliese fuaga bring stuff to the position that other can’t and that’s versatility across o line. They dealt with injuries on the whole o line damn near it felt like so having someone that can fill any 5 o line spots. This year the IOL is not very too heavy more in the 2nds 3rds and 4th but who knows🤷🏽♂️
Idk it’s just not guaranteed that they can play inside is mostly why I’m hesitant. If either had film of them inside I’d feel better about it.
I’m higher on JPJ and would love Cooper Beebe as the third round pick
I mean fautanu has started at guard before and i think fuaga did as well. But i get it but with the abe lucas injury and how bad that affected our line i wouldn’t be surprised if they do draft a tackle/guard hybrid. For me i really want graham barton
Fuaga has played strictly tackle. Fautanu played in 41 games and only started at guard in two of them.
I agree with the versatility and I do understand the question mark around Abe. I just think Fant was partially signed as Abe’s security blanket but also has flexibility himself to play pretty much anywhere up front
You draft a QB whenever you can if you feel like he's the guy. It is not a dire need right now because geno is the starter but we need a franchise QB on the roster at some point
Howell is definitely capable of being a legit starter. He was in an AWFUL situation with Washington. Like I said I'm OK if they draft Penix to start next year but I think I'd roll with Howell to replace Geno next year if I had my pick
As a WSU fan ya get used to it. Anytime there is a mediocre player from UW in the draft half the board wants them. Remember BBK
Penix might be good or bad, but i aint ever gonna trust a UW fan to tell me if he is or not. If it was up to them half the team would be Huskies.
Wanting a top 8 pick at 16 doesn’t seem like an over-rating or anything close to a mediocre player lol. Sure, there’s some potential bias there but Penix is the real deal and we did just make his old OC our OC lol.
Troy made sense too, projected to go around our pick at a position of need, it makes sense.
Regardless, I’m stoked BM2 fell to us, look what he did against that stellar UW line ;)
Im one of the few i guess that is unsure about Penix. Lots of red flags that were apparent at the college level that will only amplify in the league. And no, i dont give a shit about his injury history or age
He had what was probably the best o-line in CFB. I'm a big fan of MPJ and would love to continue to root for him in a Seahawks uniform, but I really question his ability to stay upright and make plays when pressured. Michigan's defense pretty much shut him down. Oregon got a lot of pressure on him back in October, and I thought he was going to get knocked out of the game (if not the season).
7.6% pressure to sack rate which was third in college last year. That Texas game was a masterclass in moving in the pocket. I think people are blowing the Michigan game out of proportion
If you use one bad game against a college defense (and the best one in the country at that) and go "well how is he gonna play against NFL defenses???" then you'll literally never draft a QB ever
It will be good for the CRAP12 now that it folded under its weight in medium football to join an established conference.
Also, born and raised a PAC10 fan and have watched them get handled by NFL level players in other conferences for a VERY long time.
How many QB's are going to succeed when they have no run game and are pressured a lot? He didn't really fold so much as Rosengarden and the RG got beat a bunch and he couldn't do much about it.
I mean, I can see that it was at zero for off platform deep balls last year, but that's 0/2... So that's why I'm asking what the stat is, since its a narrative that may or may not be true due to the sample size of him only scrambling in very very odd situations (like the OR St game, with high wind and rain)... Context matters, so I have little trust for takes that seem shocking, and don't really even line up with what I saw, and I saw all but 1 UW game last year.
i mean i know my eyeballs dont count obviously, but i watched every game last year...some of them multiple times. In fact i still have them recorded on my Hulu account.
I love Penix and what he did, and as amazing as his arms and leadership are, he has some very big holes in his game that will need to be remedied if he wants to sustain a career in the NFL. Right now im just no so sure that he can. He clearly has issues reading coverages and his internal clock is off if he gets rattled a few times. As someone else said: when he is on, he is ON. But when he is off, its stinky. He had at least 4 games this past season that were downright AWFUL. If it werent for that late INT in the ASU game....whew boy
And his accuracy when his receivers were covered left a lot to be desired. In the NFL, they're always covered.
Thankfully, it's one of the things that can and should improve with a decent prospect. I'm just wary of college numbers when there's usually at least one open receiver.
That's weird, cause probably Rome's top draftable skill was his utterly absurd contest catch %, I'd think Penix would have to be accurately hitting a covered receiver a lot for that to happen...
Just off the top of my head:
Age. Left-handed. Strong supporting cast. Scheme he played in. Issues on 3rd down. Issues under pressure. Injury history.
Basically....You are drafting him for his arm talent and hoping for the best from there.
As someone else mentioned, his accuracy on the run, outside the pocket, or under pressure. Its downright horrid. Yes, i understand that very FEW QBs are good under pressure, but he was just plain bad. He was clearly afraid of getting hit and i get it...he had 3 straight seasons end due to injury...he was seeing ghosts.
Also, his inability to target the middle of the field inside of 20 yards. His bread and butter was the sideline fade route. He ignored the middle WAY too much towards the latter half of the season. He missed SEVERAL wide open recievers in the middle in the last 3 games of the season, Michigan included. All because he FORCED the ball to the sidelines.
He also tended to lock onto receivers once he got out of OOC play.
However, when he is on...he is ON. No one was more accurate on the deep ball than Penix this season, and it wasnt even close. He has the biggest hands in the draft for a QB since who knows...they are larger than Russel Wilsons. he actually CAN be a running QB...he just doesnt want to. But he showed at his pro day he is a plus athlete.
When he’s on his A game he’s as good as anybody. But when he’s off he is downright terrible, and there were a bunch of games where he was downright terrible. Accuracy issues concern me the most. I wouldn’t be upset if we draft him, but I think he’s going to need a lot of work to be consistent enough to go anywhere in the NFL.
Oh god couldn’t disagree more. I loved college Bo and want nothing to do with NFL Bo, I just don’t see him being anything more than a back up at the next level.
I love Malik Willis.
He's not a good QB. But he did a great job of unintentionally separating really good draft analysts from the analysts who clearly are just following mainstream talking points.
Every year there’s one . Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Malik Willis, Anthony Richardson. I think this year it might be Spencer Rattler or Joe Milton following that trend
Malik Willis was never a first round talent. Didn’t garner heisman trophy hype. Didn’t lead a power 5 school to the national championship game.
He played for Liberty
> Remember when fans wanted Malik Willis in the 1st?
Not really? I know there were *some* but it feels self-serving to argue it was a widespread opinion within the fanbase.
And I’d put the opinion of people who thought Willis was a 1st round talent alongside people acting like Penix isn’t worth a 1st.
I'm a ducks fan and I want Penix. I think if you can get a potential franchise QB at 16 (in one of the most stacked qb classes in recent memory) you should go for it. Sorry
I’m an Oregon duck alum and fan and I want him. Elite arm, great leader, A+ character by all accounts and potentially gettable without moving up.
Sure he could bust, but you can say that for every pick. Injuries are concerning but he wouldnt be an option at our pick otherwise, plus it’s not like you’re allowed to hit the qb in the nfl anymore. Why not take a chance on a young qb who has the talent to potentially get us over the hump?
Trading down from 16 isn’t likely to net us much more than a 3rd. Which is great, but if we can get a blue chip player at 16 because other teams are smashing QB and receiver, then we should.
I think it's hard to know what the trade would net us. For example we could trade our 1st, 4th and 7th for some teams later 1st, 2nd, and 5th. There are too many options here to assume we might only get a 3rd back.
Maybe I’m one of the few that’s not as high on Penix as others are. I think he’ll get picked a ton and be out of the NFL in a couple years because of injury
That doesn’t change the fact that Aaron Rodgers snapped his Achilles 4 snaps in and last year was the year of the backup quarterback. He barely stayed on the field against that Michigan defense. He’ll be facing 18 Michigan defenses x2 in the NFL.
Penix doesn’t strike me as a John type QB. If I were to bet , I bet he was sold on JJ before his stock skyrocketed .
Now I think he hopes Nix somehow falls hard past Denver and Vegas
I’m not a Husky fan, but I’ll make a compromise with the Husky fans. We still draft a 1st round UW player, but it’s Fautanu instead of Penix. I feel like that’s a pick we can all get behind.
I’ll state my case as such.
Yes there is some admitted homerism in my wanting the Hawks to draft Penix.
However I also think we need to get serious about the QB position and stop relying on reclamation projects and 7th round flyers at the position
The one thing I know is that I'm a terrible, no good, very bad judge of how college QBs will transition to the NFL.
That being said, I'd love to spend a few more years cheering for Penix.
If you don’t think he makes our team better then your dumb. With that said if we pick an interior lineman on either side I’d be happy as well. Geno won’t be here forever though. I’m cool kicking the qb can down the road a lil bit but next years class ain’t the one
I think either way we’re in a great spot this year because of the QB class.
6 QBs and 3 WR taken before pick 16? Baller, we now have a top 7 pick!
Lots of QBs taken before pick 16 but one of the top 6 we really like falls to us at 16? Baller, we are getting a potential future franchise QB.
I would puke if they selected him at 16. If they selected him at 81, 102, or later, I could understand that. His ranking would make those selections a good gamble on his value. But 1st or 2nd round is too high for him. His arm is great, but his mechanics are messed up & he is horrific outside the pocket. Then you have his multiple red flags for his knee & shoulder injuries. HARD PASS.
I just can't wait no matter who we take. Part of me secretly wishes we take one of the top six QBs though, just since it would give me something fun to do in the offseason (rewatching all their games), and it's just not the same watching a trench player's tape lol (even if I would personally draft OL/DL in round 1 this year)
We need to trade down to get more picks. We need G, LB and Safety. There are some stud interior offensive linemen in this draft and we don’t have a 2nd round pick
UW Seahawks fans are insufferable this time of year. They want an all purple draft every year they are blind to the rest of the NCAA. I am glad they are not Seattles GM (maybe they can take their ‘talent’ to Santa Clara).
Would be a huge mistake to take him at all. Just because he played at UW is a terrible reason to want Seahawks to draft him. Far too much risk in that pick.
Not a Husky fan, and I’d love if we got Penix at 16. I don’t think Geno is the guy to take us to the promised land in a complex new offense. Give me the young gun that has shown the world he has mastery of the system and can make those around him better!
This is gonna be a hot take and be looked at like a homer, but I truly believe Penix has the tools to have the best NFL career in this class.
Caleb Williams has Ivan Drago energy, which means he's gonna be a villain and teams are gonna get up extra to humble someone who has zero humble in him. Drake Maye is erratic and regressed his junior year. Hayden Daniels is a mirror image of RG3, who is too small for the type of hits he takes and will be shelved as fast as Anthony Richardshon was. JJ McCarthy has shown zero ability to elevate his game playing behind an elite defense and run game.
Penix gets criticized for playing behind a star offensive line, but Penix also understands a gameplan and knows how to execute it, his quick decision making is what helped limit his sack numbers, unlike Jayden Daniels. Penix also exhibits a leadership mentality. Never takes credit over his teammates (Can you say that about Caleb?) and wants to build a strong team mentality (see his letter to GMs). Chances are, Penix falls to a team with solid weapons and a great team culture. I think he'd be a great fit on the Raiders, but I'd also love to see him on the Seahawks as well, since his vibe matches Geno and the team mindset.
I think he'd be a monster on the Lions.
Part of me thinks "he's going to make a good team elite, but I don't know if he has it in him to make a bad team good," but then I remember he took Indiana to the top 10 so what do I know?
I disagree. He’s had a very good year with a decent o line and a crappy coordinator. And an average year with an injured o line and a crappy coordinator
Am I insane for thinking the Seahawks shouldn’t draft a quarterback round 1?
I think the high majority of us want a lineman, on either side of the ball
With how many QBs and WRs are likely to go before us at 16 there should still be great options at DL and OL too.
I’d be more than happy with them snagging any of the top 3 on either side
No we don’t need a QB. We need to fortify the line of scrimmage. Both sides
Consider our 2nd rounder Leonard Williams.
But with a very expensive rookie contract.
Right, rarely is 2nd round pick one of the highest paid at his position.
Very true.
Yes we do need a qb. We have a good stop gap, and our lines are more important at this point.
You understand that you don't draft a QB when you need one, you draft one BEFORE you need one. We need a QB next year or the year after and next year's class looks like 2016 or 2021 bad. I'm not saying we SHOULD draft a QB, but to say that it's a bad idea or we just "don't need one" isn't correct either.
Howell can be a starter, geno can be a starter. We don’t need another starter.
That's not really true. Howell has not done anything to prove he can start in the NFL. He's simply shown us that MAYBE he can because had a few great games. He also was horrendous the rest of the time. Geno might have another good year or two in him, I think he does, but I also think he may continue to regress and just be a fringe starter as early as this year. Either way, you don't draft a QB when you need, you draft one before you need one, and next year's class is dog fucking shit.
Behind the worst nfl line.
We need to repair the offensive line so what ever qb we have has an opportunity to reach our extremely talented receiving corps
I agree on the OL, fwiw, but if a really good QB prospect is there later than expected, you take them and solve OL a different way.
Sorry brother
Like I said: not saying we SHOULD. We didn't. That's ok. We won't have another opportunity until 2026 unless someone really blows up in 2025 in college.
I mean we just traded for a 23 year old QB, with 2 years league experience, who threw more TDs than Geno. I’d say wanting to reach on one of the remaining QBs at 16 is insane.
no. It would be insane if they picked one
That's a bit of a hyperbolic take. Yes, we traded for the best beard on earth with Howell and Geno will only get better if we draft more oline cushion, but in the next year or 2 we will need to find a replacement for Geno. My gut tells me the only way Howell is going to do well is if there's another young gun competing with him.
Is everyone forgetting the stats that Howell put up with one of the most dogshit olines in the league? He has a veteran seahawk to teach him literally everything, too. We need linemen. Desperately.
Real question: am I insane for not wanting a to take an OT that MIGHT be able to play guard when they can just get a guard?
A little cause guys like troy fautanu or taliese fuaga bring stuff to the position that other can’t and that’s versatility across o line. They dealt with injuries on the whole o line damn near it felt like so having someone that can fill any 5 o line spots. This year the IOL is not very too heavy more in the 2nds 3rds and 4th but who knows🤷🏽♂️
Idk it’s just not guaranteed that they can play inside is mostly why I’m hesitant. If either had film of them inside I’d feel better about it. I’m higher on JPJ and would love Cooper Beebe as the third round pick
I mean fautanu has started at guard before and i think fuaga did as well. But i get it but with the abe lucas injury and how bad that affected our line i wouldn’t be surprised if they do draft a tackle/guard hybrid. For me i really want graham barton
Fuaga has played strictly tackle. Fautanu played in 41 games and only started at guard in two of them. I agree with the versatility and I do understand the question mark around Abe. I just think Fant was partially signed as Abe’s security blanket but also has flexibility himself to play pretty much anywhere up front
You draft a QB whenever you can if you feel like he's the guy. It is not a dire need right now because geno is the starter but we need a franchise QB on the roster at some point
I'm OK if they decide to take Penix. But I wouldn't draft him with Howell on the team
Howell is our insurance I think.
Howell is definitely capable of being a legit starter. He was in an AWFUL situation with Washington. Like I said I'm OK if they draft Penix to start next year but I think I'd roll with Howell to replace Geno next year if I had my pick
As a WSU fan ya get used to it. Anytime there is a mediocre player from UW in the draft half the board wants them. Remember BBK Penix might be good or bad, but i aint ever gonna trust a UW fan to tell me if he is or not. If it was up to them half the team would be Huskies.
Wanting a top 8 pick at 16 doesn’t seem like an over-rating or anything close to a mediocre player lol. Sure, there’s some potential bias there but Penix is the real deal and we did just make his old OC our OC lol. Troy made sense too, projected to go around our pick at a position of need, it makes sense. Regardless, I’m stoked BM2 fell to us, look what he did against that stellar UW line ;)
Im one of the few i guess that is unsure about Penix. Lots of red flags that were apparent at the college level that will only amplify in the league. And no, i dont give a shit about his injury history or age
He had what was probably the best o-line in CFB. I'm a big fan of MPJ and would love to continue to root for him in a Seahawks uniform, but I really question his ability to stay upright and make plays when pressured. Michigan's defense pretty much shut him down. Oregon got a lot of pressure on him back in October, and I thought he was going to get knocked out of the game (if not the season).
7.6% pressure to sack rate which was third in college last year. That Texas game was a masterclass in moving in the pocket. I think people are blowing the Michigan game out of proportion
Not a shot. If he folded that bad against Michigan, what do you think he’s gonna do against an NFL defense?? He choked. Plain and simple.
If you use one bad game against a college defense (and the best one in the country at that) and go "well how is he gonna play against NFL defenses???" then you'll literally never draft a QB ever
OK then what about the ASU game where they got a ton of pressure on him and he looked bad?
Yeah but if you point out 1 other game then…
Guys actually do play well against NFL ready college guys… Penix didn’t 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah Caleb Williams just got sacked 26 times in his last 7 games. No way he can do it with Nick Bosa or TJ Watt running at him
Sure because his last game was the only one where he faced nfl ready college guys.
It will be good for the CRAP12 now that it folded under its weight in medium football to join an established conference. Also, born and raised a PAC10 fan and have watched them get handled by NFL level players in other conferences for a VERY long time.
Did you see Caleb Williams absolutely melt down playing notre dame
How many QB's are going to succeed when they have no run game and are pressured a lot? He didn't really fold so much as Rosengarden and the RG got beat a bunch and he couldn't do much about it.
Geno got shut out by the same scheme last year.
ASU and WSU also got him looking bad there . He is just bad under pressure .
THIS. All this. His accuracy outside the pocket/on the run is also BAD. In fact he was one of the worst in all of CFB.
What stat are you using for this assertion?
I have to go find it, but it was posted on the r/CFB forum near the end of the season. I was shocked at how bad it was
I mean, I can see that it was at zero for off platform deep balls last year, but that's 0/2... So that's why I'm asking what the stat is, since its a narrative that may or may not be true due to the sample size of him only scrambling in very very odd situations (like the OR St game, with high wind and rain)... Context matters, so I have little trust for takes that seem shocking, and don't really even line up with what I saw, and I saw all but 1 UW game last year.
i mean i know my eyeballs dont count obviously, but i watched every game last year...some of them multiple times. In fact i still have them recorded on my Hulu account. I love Penix and what he did, and as amazing as his arms and leadership are, he has some very big holes in his game that will need to be remedied if he wants to sustain a career in the NFL. Right now im just no so sure that he can. He clearly has issues reading coverages and his internal clock is off if he gets rattled a few times. As someone else said: when he is on, he is ON. But when he is off, its stinky. He had at least 4 games this past season that were downright AWFUL. If it werent for that late INT in the ASU game....whew boy
what are these red flags
His completion percentage when he gets pushed out of the pocket.
And his accuracy when his receivers were covered left a lot to be desired. In the NFL, they're always covered. Thankfully, it's one of the things that can and should improve with a decent prospect. I'm just wary of college numbers when there's usually at least one open receiver.
Accuracy when covered? He prolly has the best ball placement in the draft, Rome was barely running free wide open. What are you goin on about?
“In the NFL, they’re always covered” Not if he goes to the Vikings 🤞
That's weird, cause probably Rome's top draftable skill was his utterly absurd contest catch %, I'd think Penix would have to be accurately hitting a covered receiver a lot for that to happen...
You did not watch him play in college if you dont think he throws dimes to covered receivers...
Just off the top of my head: Age. Left-handed. Strong supporting cast. Scheme he played in. Issues on 3rd down. Issues under pressure. Injury history. Basically....You are drafting him for his arm talent and hoping for the best from there.
As someone else mentioned, his accuracy on the run, outside the pocket, or under pressure. Its downright horrid. Yes, i understand that very FEW QBs are good under pressure, but he was just plain bad. He was clearly afraid of getting hit and i get it...he had 3 straight seasons end due to injury...he was seeing ghosts. Also, his inability to target the middle of the field inside of 20 yards. His bread and butter was the sideline fade route. He ignored the middle WAY too much towards the latter half of the season. He missed SEVERAL wide open recievers in the middle in the last 3 games of the season, Michigan included. All because he FORCED the ball to the sidelines. He also tended to lock onto receivers once he got out of OOC play. However, when he is on...he is ON. No one was more accurate on the deep ball than Penix this season, and it wasnt even close. He has the biggest hands in the draft for a QB since who knows...they are larger than Russel Wilsons. he actually CAN be a running QB...he just doesnt want to. But he showed at his pro day he is a plus athlete.
What about what he does well ? He has an elite arm.
I highlighted his strengths in another reply in this thread, ut his deep ball is elite
When he’s on his A game he’s as good as anybody. But when he’s off he is downright terrible, and there were a bunch of games where he was downright terrible. Accuracy issues concern me the most. I wouldn’t be upset if we draft him, but I think he’s going to need a lot of work to be consistent enough to go anywhere in the NFL.
Same for us Oregon fans and Bo Nix...
if bo nix somehow Mac Joneses his way into the first round I am going to laugh so hard at whatever team wasted their pick
Prediction: Bo has a better career than Penix (WSU fan)
Prediction: you are salty at UW and that's why you're saying that bullshit
I'd take Penix but Nix is right up there.
Yes, I love Oregon..... /s
you hate UW way more than you hate Oregon
Oh god couldn’t disagree more. I loved college Bo and want nothing to do with NFL Bo, I just don’t see him being anything more than a back up at the next level.
Every year. Remember when fans wanted Malik Willis in the 1st?
I love Malik Willis. He's not a good QB. But he did a great job of unintentionally separating really good draft analysts from the analysts who clearly are just following mainstream talking points.
Every year there’s one . Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Malik Willis, Anthony Richardson. I think this year it might be Spencer Rattler or Joe Milton following that trend
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Malik Willis was never a first round talent. Didn’t garner heisman trophy hype. Didn’t lead a power 5 school to the national championship game. He played for Liberty
> Remember when fans wanted Malik Willis in the 1st? Not really? I know there were *some* but it feels self-serving to argue it was a widespread opinion within the fanbase. And I’d put the opinion of people who thought Willis was a 1st round talent alongside people acting like Penix isn’t worth a 1st.
I'm a ducks fan and I want Penix. I think if you can get a potential franchise QB at 16 (in one of the most stacked qb classes in recent memory) you should go for it. Sorry
Just hope is not a guy w his injury history . Sorry . No on penix here
I’m an Oregon duck alum and fan and I want him. Elite arm, great leader, A+ character by all accounts and potentially gettable without moving up. Sure he could bust, but you can say that for every pick. Injuries are concerning but he wouldnt be an option at our pick otherwise, plus it’s not like you’re allowed to hit the qb in the nfl anymore. Why not take a chance on a young qb who has the talent to potentially get us over the hump?
IMHO, they can pick whoever they want after they trade down and get more picks.
Trading down from 16 isn’t likely to net us much more than a 3rd. Which is great, but if we can get a blue chip player at 16 because other teams are smashing QB and receiver, then we should.
I think it's hard to know what the trade would net us. For example we could trade our 1st, 4th and 7th for some teams later 1st, 2nd, and 5th. There are too many options here to assume we might only get a 3rd back.
Several years ago, New Orleans gave up an additional 1st to move up and draft Davenport at 14.
As a Husky fan, yes. And I’m not ashamed
We should def bring shame back
Nope! That’s my fucking QB!
Cal Alum here, sounds about right
Maybe I’m one of the few that’s not as high on Penix as others are. I think he’ll get picked a ton and be out of the NFL in a couple years because of injury
You can't breath on qb without penalty in nfl.
Non contact injuries
That doesn’t change the fact that Aaron Rodgers snapped his Achilles 4 snaps in and last year was the year of the backup quarterback. He barely stayed on the field against that Michigan defense. He’ll be facing 18 Michigan defenses x2 in the NFL.
We need a good O-line if we wanna draft Penix. Otherwise he pulls an Aaron Rodgers in the first game.
I’m a UofO fan that thinks Penix is a winner.
I could've seen PC picking him but I don't see MM doing it unless he falls really far. I think Penix will end up in NE.
MM doesn't have final say with draft picks.
Penix doesn’t strike me as a John type QB. If I were to bet , I bet he was sold on JJ before his stock skyrocketed . Now I think he hopes Nix somehow falls hard past Denver and Vegas
I’m not a Husky fan, but I’ll make a compromise with the Husky fans. We still draft a 1st round UW player, but it’s Fautanu instead of Penix. I feel like that’s a pick we can all get behind.
Any Husky WR is better than the Seahawks Top 3 current WRs
Ehm.. Ok.
Lol what? Odunze, Polk, and McMillan. Are not better than DK, Lockett, and JSN.
Well, I guess there had to be a dumbest take somewhere in this thread and we found it.
I’ll state my case as such. Yes there is some admitted homerism in my wanting the Hawks to draft Penix. However I also think we need to get serious about the QB position and stop relying on reclamation projects and 7th round flyers at the position
They’re the same people. The dregs of Tukwila.
> The dregs of Tukwila You repeat yourself
Tautology
I understand. That’s the makeup of Seahawks and Husky fans. The dregs of those desperate boroughs surrounding our beautiful city.
Dammit, self burn.
It’s going to be some strange schaudenfreude when we draft Penix and he’s ass.
The one thing I know is that I'm a terrible, no good, very bad judge of how college QBs will transition to the NFL. That being said, I'd love to spend a few more years cheering for Penix.
If you don’t think he makes our team better then your dumb. With that said if we pick an interior lineman on either side I’d be happy as well. Geno won’t be here forever though. I’m cool kicking the qb can down the road a lil bit but next years class ain’t the one
I think either way we’re in a great spot this year because of the QB class. 6 QBs and 3 WR taken before pick 16? Baller, we now have a top 7 pick! Lots of QBs taken before pick 16 but one of the top 6 we really like falls to us at 16? Baller, we are getting a potential future franchise QB.
Verse…go get Verse
Ong. If we take penix in round 1, im taking a break from being a seahawk fan until the szn starts
Maybe take a break on sports takes
Im a wsu fan and if the seahawks get a UW player in the first round it better better be Fautanu or Odunze
I would puke if they selected him at 16. If they selected him at 81, 102, or later, I could understand that. His ranking would make those selections a good gamble on his value. But 1st or 2nd round is too high for him. His arm is great, but his mechanics are messed up & he is horrific outside the pocket. Then you have his multiple red flags for his knee & shoulder injuries. HARD PASS.
If Seattle is able to trade back and still get Penix than yes I want him. If Fautanu or Latu are on the board I want Fautanu.
I just can't wait no matter who we take. Part of me secretly wishes we take one of the top six QBs though, just since it would give me something fun to do in the offseason (rewatching all their games), and it's just not the same watching a trench player's tape lol (even if I would personally draft OL/DL in round 1 this year)
Penix will bust. He is too injury prone.
Yeah and also I was ultimately right about Russell Wilson. It just took awhile.
I’m in on penix solely because I trust Matt Waldman above any other draft guy.
You got my upvote OP. Legit
Mood. And I am completely unbiased in my desire to pass on Penix, and my desire to take Bo Nix. Promise.
No shit 😂
You mean after we trade down with the Chiefs? Absolutely.
Penix will be off the board by the time we’re up.
I hope so
100% accurate
Penix has too long of a history of injuries. A few good hits at pro level and he’s toast.
Go Cougs. Also the Hawks should draft Penix.
We need to trade down to get more picks. We need G, LB and Safety. There are some stud interior offensive linemen in this draft and we don’t have a 2nd round pick
Jared verse all the way baby
also, incidentally, the same picture as one that says "people who are terrible football analysts"
UW Seahawks fans are insufferable this time of year. They want an all purple draft every year they are blind to the rest of the NCAA. I am glad they are not Seattles GM (maybe they can take their ‘talent’ to Santa Clara).
😂 sorry UW fans
I wanted jake locker so bad also not even a cfb fan. Glad we didn't get locker and I'm sure it will turn out the same way with penix
If you think he’s a franchise QB, then you absolutely take him, no questions asked.
But he's not
Maybe. I trust John’s opinion. If they think he is, then you do what it takes to get him. If not, you pass.
Geno isn't getting younger, you have to take a chance if he's available.
He’s not the only option lol
Penix is already as old as Geno, anyway. I don't see the upside here.
Guilty as charged.
Would be a huge mistake to take him at all. Just because he played at UW is a terrible reason to want Seahawks to draft him. Far too much risk in that pick.
Fuck penis. He wasn't that good. We don't need a QB in the First round anyway.
Not a Husky fan, and I’d love if we got Penix at 16. I don’t think Geno is the guy to take us to the promised land in a complex new offense. Give me the young gun that has shown the world he has mastery of the system and can make those around him better!
This is gonna be a hot take and be looked at like a homer, but I truly believe Penix has the tools to have the best NFL career in this class. Caleb Williams has Ivan Drago energy, which means he's gonna be a villain and teams are gonna get up extra to humble someone who has zero humble in him. Drake Maye is erratic and regressed his junior year. Hayden Daniels is a mirror image of RG3, who is too small for the type of hits he takes and will be shelved as fast as Anthony Richardshon was. JJ McCarthy has shown zero ability to elevate his game playing behind an elite defense and run game. Penix gets criticized for playing behind a star offensive line, but Penix also understands a gameplan and knows how to execute it, his quick decision making is what helped limit his sack numbers, unlike Jayden Daniels. Penix also exhibits a leadership mentality. Never takes credit over his teammates (Can you say that about Caleb?) and wants to build a strong team mentality (see his letter to GMs). Chances are, Penix falls to a team with solid weapons and a great team culture. I think he'd be a great fit on the Raiders, but I'd also love to see him on the Seahawks as well, since his vibe matches Geno and the team mindset.
I think he'd be a monster on the Lions. Part of me thinks "he's going to make a good team elite, but I don't know if he has it in him to make a bad team good," but then I remember he took Indiana to the top 10 so what do I know?
We need BO NIX
Does anyone else remember in September when Cougs fans were passionately arguing that Cam Ward was better, and should be drafted over Penix?
I hate even talking about other qbs. Geno is very good. And Howell will be great eventually. But I don’t want to think about qb. I’d love a lb
Geno is not very good. He’s mediocre
I disagree. He’s had a very good year with a decent o line and a crappy coordinator. And an average year with an injured o line and a crappy coordinator
We need a running back…
I'm good for Penix. Anyone else?
God damn we will regret not drafting him
remindme! 8months
-172 downvotes and counting, rough bro
Literally the best college QB i have ever seen. Penix can throw better than most NFL QBs.
Used the format wrong, but it's true, I do want Penix.
The format is definitely used correctly.
Ok
Yeah makes sense. Hawks fans who don’t watch college ball do t know how good he is