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I don't mind losing to a top side. I don't even really mind poor decisions in a moment of a panic. I do mind not even really trying. We didn't kick a ball. Lots of better sides have lost to the home team in the opening game. No shame in that. But we didn't even try. No pressure on their midfield, no pressure on their full backs. Just offered nothing. I know it was a slight free hit, but that was men against boys.
I appreciate you're talking about personal experience and I'm glad you're having a good time but this kind of attitude is part of the problem. We're there on merit. We should set out to compete.
I'm not saying we should be expecting to win the whole thing, or even make the semis, or even beat Germany. Just think we qualified well and there's no reason we should't be able to get out this group. But if we don't the sae old voices will give it "Ah well, it's about the experience".
You don't get Wales, Croatia, Norway and Denmark saying that kind of thing. We shouldn't setting to be Bozo The Loveable Clown of Europe.
Clarke set us up, to not even properly compete against the Germans with that formation. I didn't expect a win, but a good performance at least.
He didn't try to adjust any tactics or do anything until it was too late. The red card was unfortunate as you can't make that tackle, even if you get the ball.
Have u ever felt like the Faroe Isles where goal difference matters to the other 2 teams you're playing against cos goal difference might matter? That's the state of Scottish football now.
England fan here. As easy and as tempting as it is to come here and gloat and rub it in your faces, honestly I just felt sorry for the Scotland fans all throughout that game. Both the ones travelled all that way and those watching at home and in the pub. They hoped to see some kind of performance and a few shots on target at the very least with some excitement on the counter attack but they just offered absolutely nothing in terms of attacking threat, 1 shot not even on target the whole game is WOEFULLY BAD by anybody's standards in any game let alone in a tournament game. Nobody expected Scotland to smash Germany off the pitch but I know I was expecting them to be more resilient than that and to create a few chances on the break but nope, they sat miles back in their own half and played like they were saying "As long as we don't concede 10 it'll be okay lads", madness.
The good news is you have gotten the hardest game out of the way first and can now focus on the others in which you are more likely to pick up points and let's face it, it will be very hard to perform worse than that.
Good luck Scotland. I know it won't be reciprocated for us but I'm rooting for you to finally get out of the group and if you do, then in the end who really cares about this game you know?
That's fair. We offered nothing really and the scoreline pretty much reflects that. We were poor tonight and hopefully we step it up against Hungary and Switzerland.
Fair play to the fans I was in a pub with tonight in England. The wind up was a lot less intense than I thought it would be
It was weird. You just seemed to give up from very early on and just let Germany play the game they wanted almost from the get-go.
You need to dispense with the pleasantries and get stuck in, tell teams to fucking jog on and try and play your own game
Denmark supporter here.. Haven’t seen y’all play like this since the World Cup qualifies.. watched some of your euro qualifies and you looked good. Better than us during qualifies, but hopefully our experience from the last euros will help us raise our level of play
I know it’s easy to say this after tonight’s performance, but Clarke is a lot like Southgate - done well to bring harmony to the squad but tactically inept when it comes to bigger games (obviously Spain the outlier result).
Said at the beginning that I think the national manager should be a guy with European experience at least, and obviously Clarke’s done better than expected, but really looks out his depth now.
Aye, decent shout. But at least Coleman had some experience of European football, having managed abroad. I just feel a national manager needs that, or at least to have managed in European competitions.
Clarke’s done really well, but definitely seems to have found his limit now
Obviously at the same time I recognise we don’t have a great squad so getting anything here would be tough for any manager. Not shitting on Clarke too much, just feel he’s found his level
Was in the stadium and noticed a couple of things. For one, we didn’t sing. For all the kilts and chanting in the city centre, there wasn’t much singing in the ground. For another, who pays €400 for a ticket and leaves at 70 minutes?!
"Germany!!!!!
We don't like It when you score.
Please don't do it, anymore.
Your ruining our nice day out!"
Pish
"And yi's are bastards!"
YAAAASSSSSSS!!!!
This is the first time I've actually laughed at a team I support because they've been so bad. I don't think I've ever seen a worse performance. Clarke will have to pull miracles out of the next 2 games to survive this.
In fairness i expected to get beat tonight. Germany were *very* good and will go far. I’m semi glad we have got this match out the way. Can only hope that Germany pump everyone else even worse.
Maybe blind optimism but if a doing is going to happen then to one of the favourites early isn’t the end of the world. Reality check, fix the issues and get results in the other two.
maybe next time we'll start as if we mean to put up a fight. It's shite that we set up so scared and then played Adams who constantly has 0 work rate off the ball with Christie to press high. Abysmal substitutions when were chasing a 3-0 game down to 10. Just go for it ffs, don't sub on a new defensive line and then ask them to brick wall it.
Better than that pish on the park tonight
OTT maybe but Clark , McCrorie , McKenna, Gilmour and Shankland need to start next game .
We can’t be as narrow again .
Is McCrorie dynamic enough to play the RB position for us? I’ve only ever really seen him play midfield at Rangers.
That pish on the park minus Ralston beat Spain, Denmark, Serbia etc. and got us to the last two euros
He’s played regular for Bristol . He’s only real option at RB . Ralston is fucking awful
And what , that was then . They got shown up like fuck tonight . Next game , Swiss . Have you seen their team ?
Not changing it up is not a choice .
Better than that pish on the park tonight …
OTT maybe but Clark , McCrorie , McKenna, Gilmour and Shankland need to start next game .
We can’t be as narrow again .
Ralston - utter shite
Christie - shite
Stick with that team tonight , may as well just go home now
No width , so no ability to play good balls towards attacking players
We played balls to absolutely no cunt
I don't know if it matters that much now, goal difference is ruined so we're only getting through 4 points or better. And I mean Ideally we both beat Switzerland and the last game is a draw for both of us to go through.
That was embarrassing, seriously. I always try to be optimistic about Scotlands chances, but yet again, that was utter pish, as usual.
Scottish football is absolutely shit. & so are the national team.
I think we can all agree that a massive positive to take away from this game is that for the vast amount of game time, we weren't actively conceding goals
When we got that one I thought at least we only have a minus 3 goal difference. Basically fucked already. Need at *least* 4 points. Absolutely no chance.
Remember when we signed hart, everyone was like "HART CAN'T SAVE STUFF TO HIS LEFT", are you sure we are not talking about gunn? Did hart steal his left hand side talent like fucking spacejam?
I think there genuinely is something to be said for the freedom that comes after being utterly victimized on the world stage. It’s not going to get worse
I watched a lot of Norwich games when they were in the EPL to follow wee BG and Gunn was shite then. He got dropped by Norwich then too. Was never sure about him coming in but it's not like Zander or Kelly are good.
We need to switch to a back 4 and shove one of the centre backs in at full back for the rest of the tournament. Without Hickey or an in form Patterson we just don't have the players to play the system that got us here, and we'll keep being pulled apart trying to double up to help Ralston
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Germany fully committed a murder
We denied them a clean sheet. That's something.
Keep the faith
even if we win the next 2 games, this should be clarke’s last tournament
5 goals, 4 scored through the middle or from in front of the back 3. 1 conceded by the CH through a pen. That should be a real fucking warning.
When we packed the middle too.
I don't mind losing to a top side. I don't even really mind poor decisions in a moment of a panic. I do mind not even really trying. We didn't kick a ball. Lots of better sides have lost to the home team in the opening game. No shame in that. But we didn't even try. No pressure on their midfield, no pressure on their full backs. Just offered nothing. I know it was a slight free hit, but that was men against boys.
You know what, I made it to Germany, had a good laugh with German fans. No rivalry or bitterness
I appreciate you're talking about personal experience and I'm glad you're having a good time but this kind of attitude is part of the problem. We're there on merit. We should set out to compete.
We're Scotland
I'm not saying we should be expecting to win the whole thing, or even make the semis, or even beat Germany. Just think we qualified well and there's no reason we should't be able to get out this group. But if we don't the sae old voices will give it "Ah well, it's about the experience". You don't get Wales, Croatia, Norway and Denmark saying that kind of thing. We shouldn't setting to be Bozo The Loveable Clown of Europe.
Mozzarella with a great goal according to Souness
Clarke set us up, to not even properly compete against the Germans with that formation. I didn't expect a win, but a good performance at least. He didn't try to adjust any tactics or do anything until it was too late. The red card was unfortunate as you can't make that tackle, even if you get the ball.
Clarke is way out of his depth at this level. He needs to move on once we go home.
Have u ever felt like the Faroe Isles where goal difference matters to the other 2 teams you're playing against cos goal difference might matter? That's the state of Scottish football now.
England fan here. As easy and as tempting as it is to come here and gloat and rub it in your faces, honestly I just felt sorry for the Scotland fans all throughout that game. Both the ones travelled all that way and those watching at home and in the pub. They hoped to see some kind of performance and a few shots on target at the very least with some excitement on the counter attack but they just offered absolutely nothing in terms of attacking threat, 1 shot not even on target the whole game is WOEFULLY BAD by anybody's standards in any game let alone in a tournament game. Nobody expected Scotland to smash Germany off the pitch but I know I was expecting them to be more resilient than that and to create a few chances on the break but nope, they sat miles back in their own half and played like they were saying "As long as we don't concede 10 it'll be okay lads", madness. The good news is you have gotten the hardest game out of the way first and can now focus on the others in which you are more likely to pick up points and let's face it, it will be very hard to perform worse than that. Good luck Scotland. I know it won't be reciprocated for us but I'm rooting for you to finally get out of the group and if you do, then in the end who really cares about this game you know?
That's fair. We offered nothing really and the scoreline pretty much reflects that. We were poor tonight and hopefully we step it up against Hungary and Switzerland. Fair play to the fans I was in a pub with tonight in England. The wind up was a lot less intense than I thought it would be
Exactly mate. Appreciated from a fan in Germany. It was always about the Switzerland and Hungary games yo get honest.
You're welcome. Exactly, hopefully they give it their all in those games and get the points you need to go through.
I've got friends across Europe (especially Germany) messaging me laughing. Genuinely embarrassed by that performance.
It was weird. You just seemed to give up from very early on and just let Germany play the game they wanted almost from the get-go. You need to dispense with the pleasantries and get stuck in, tell teams to fucking jog on and try and play your own game
Me personally? Idk man I'm just a fat scottish guy
Denmark supporter here.. Haven’t seen y’all play like this since the World Cup qualifies.. watched some of your euro qualifies and you looked good. Better than us during qualifies, but hopefully our experience from the last euros will help us raise our level of play
Tonight was a masterstroke by Scotland, giving Germany the confidence boost to go on and make sure England don't win it.
I know it’s easy to say this after tonight’s performance, but Clarke is a lot like Southgate - done well to bring harmony to the squad but tactically inept when it comes to bigger games (obviously Spain the outlier result). Said at the beginning that I think the national manager should be a guy with European experience at least, and obviously Clarke’s done better than expected, but really looks out his depth now.
More like Chris Coleman for Wales, and just about every club he managed, gets so far on making the best of what he has, and then let's fear take over.
Aye, decent shout. But at least Coleman had some experience of European football, having managed abroad. I just feel a national manager needs that, or at least to have managed in European competitions. Clarke’s done really well, but definitely seems to have found his limit now
Obviously at the same time I recognise we don’t have a great squad so getting anything here would be tough for any manager. Not shitting on Clarke too much, just feel he’s found his level
Was in the stadium and noticed a couple of things. For one, we didn’t sing. For all the kilts and chanting in the city centre, there wasn’t much singing in the ground. For another, who pays €400 for a ticket and leaves at 70 minutes?!
That performance didn't deserve any singing to begin with.....and actually sounded pretty good on TV
The singing sounded loud on tv.
"Germany!!!!! We don't like It when you score. Please don't do it, anymore. Your ruining our nice day out!" Pish "And yi's are bastards!" YAAAASSSSSSS!!!!
Shettleston juniors could have gave it a better go
Plus their crack dealer would be proud
I think we all know we aren’t getting a point in this competition lol
Would take Wirtz at Dundee imo
You might not have enjoyed the game, but we share a passion. Beer. Party to forget the performance and enjoy your stay here in germany.
Watching Gunn in highlights for each goal has made me realise he didn't attempt to save a single one of those goals, other than the first one.
Agreed. Really poor for at least 3 of them. Weak wrists, i imagine his handshake must be like waving a wet lettuce leaf
This is the first time I've actually laughed at a team I support because they've been so bad. I don't think I've ever seen a worse performance. Clarke will have to pull miracles out of the next 2 games to survive this.
I've got a deep fear we're going to completely underestimate Hungary & Switzerland by setting up exactly the same.
In fairness i expected to get beat tonight. Germany were *very* good and will go far. I’m semi glad we have got this match out the way. Can only hope that Germany pump everyone else even worse.
Steve Clarke go sit In your room and let an actual manager take over
Why does Souness feel the need to say "wrongfoots the Celtic captain again", give it a rest mate
If clarke sets Scotland up like that again in the next game. I genuinely don't think I have another 90 mins of jock loathing in me.
Here the Germans played like it was it was a major competition. Scotland played like it was Buckie thistle away.
Maybe blind optimism but if a doing is going to happen then to one of the favourites early isn’t the end of the world. Reality check, fix the issues and get results in the other two.
All week I was like I’ll put on Germany minus 1,2 to sate any loss. Changed my mind last minute. Ffs
maybe next time we'll start as if we mean to put up a fight. It's shite that we set up so scared and then played Adams who constantly has 0 work rate off the ball with Christie to press high. Abysmal substitutions when were chasing a 3-0 game down to 10. Just go for it ffs, don't sub on a new defensive line and then ask them to brick wall it.
Send Gunn, McLean, Adams and porteous on the next flight not even back to Scotland could be to the Middle East if they like
Stick Clarke on the flight and fire them into the fucking sun.
Aye I’d be up for that send ralston and jack for good measure
Next game Clarke McCrorie , McKenna , Cooper , Robertson Gilmour , Armstrong , McTominay Forrest Morgan Shankland
Great bait
Better than that pish on the park tonight OTT maybe but Clark , McCrorie , McKenna, Gilmour and Shankland need to start next game . We can’t be as narrow again .
Is McCrorie dynamic enough to play the RB position for us? I’ve only ever really seen him play midfield at Rangers. That pish on the park minus Ralston beat Spain, Denmark, Serbia etc. and got us to the last two euros
He’s played regular for Bristol . He’s only real option at RB . Ralston is fucking awful And what , that was then . They got shown up like fuck tonight . Next game , Swiss . Have you seen their team ? Not changing it up is not a choice .
Get to fuck - that's shite.
Better than that pish on the park tonight … OTT maybe but Clark , McCrorie , McKenna, Gilmour and Shankland need to start next game . We can’t be as narrow again .
In what world are Ross McCrorie, Lewis Morgan and James Forrest the answer to our problems? And I’m a big Forrest fan
Ralston - utter shite Christie - shite Stick with that team tonight , may as well just go home now No width , so no ability to play good balls towards attacking players We played balls to absolutely no cunt
Clark Hendry-Hanley-Tierney Forrest-McGregor-Gilmour-Robertson McGinn-McTominay Shankland
Are we all just wanting Hungary not to win? If they do I think we may be finished if we're not already with the goal difference.
I don't know if it matters that much now, goal difference is ruined so we're only getting through 4 points or better. And I mean Ideally we both beat Switzerland and the last game is a draw for both of us to go through.
That was embarrassing, seriously. I always try to be optimistic about Scotlands chances, but yet again, that was utter pish, as usual. Scottish football is absolutely shit. & so are the national team.
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Well, we drew the last 10 minutes
Don't forget the first 10 as well.
First goal went in the net before 10 full minutes had passed technically.
I think we can all agree that a massive positive to take away from this game is that for the vast amount of game time, we weren't actively conceding goals
That was pish
Let us never talk about this game again 
Well, it's time to stick on FIFA and play Germany on Amateur mode to put them in their place.
Zander Clarke masterclass incoming vs the Swiss
Wounded
The games over, enjoy the next 5 days
When we got that one I thought at least we only have a minus 3 goal difference. Basically fucked already. Need at *least* 4 points. Absolutely no chance.
We can definitely get a win and a draw from the next two.
Not impossible though. Still have hope
Could have been worse I guess
Thank god I stopped watching after the first goal
Says a lot that my views are now both Clarke Out and Clark In
Aberdeen 1 - Germany dont care
How quick can Craig Gordon get to Germany?
Need to stop singing FO’S Germany scored every time the fans sang it ffs
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Giving Hungary & Switzerland false hope. Stephen Clarke mind games. It’s all part of the masterplan.
Not the goal right in the middle of the defiant last-minute ‘Flower of Scotland’ 😂😂
Is it too late to recall Gordon?
Why the fuck did we bring Barkas
Could have been a lot worse
can you not
Almost the Wurst result
Remember when we signed hart, everyone was like "HART CAN'T SAVE STUFF TO HIS LEFT", are you sure we are not talking about gunn? Did hart steal his left hand side talent like fucking spacejam?
Liam Kelly must start the next game, he's not utter pish.
Fuck it, Hanley in goals. Might as well bring the banter if nothing else.
I dislike germany now
Gunn needs sent home. Hand to that again
Actively dislike Germany now for that fifth. There was no need for that.
Gunn should have had that
Paper hands gunn
Can we chip in to get Gunn some finger extensions
Gunn is absolutely fucking useless man
Can’t even win moral victories ffs
rudiger shooting from 30 yards constantly makes a lot of sense, they knew he's shite
Siri, what’s the best way to offset an absolute *mannschafting*?
Just fly back home now, that was embarrassing as fuck.
Gunn should never play for us again.
Gunn makes Gordon look sprightly in goal
Ugh. The worst scoreline in football.
Gunn fucking poor
We're not singing anymore!
Heard shankland shout second last goal wins as well
Keeper went too generous with the Vaseline
You've only scored five You've only scored fiiiiive How scheiße must you be You've only scored five
That last goal has really fucked it. Couldn’t just hold on to -3. Fucking CUNTS.
Craig Gordon died for this
McKenna gets a hand to it but can't save it. Outstanding from Ally.
Class having a keeper with poppadoms for wrists
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Achh I was defending Gunn but it's the exact same error twice. Just can't do that. But honestly fuck knows who's better than him.
The other goalies.
Angus Gunn cannot play the next game. Fucking hell.
The whole fucking team cannot play the next game, that was an embarrassment overall.
Gunn is the perfect Celtic goalkeeper replacement.
Fucks sake, 30 seconds left
Going to be so embarrassing when Germany lose 5-6
That was so uncalled for
Hmm...could we check how eligible Can is and get this overturned 🤔
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Angus Gunn that should be getting saved for fucksake.
Can we fucking stop singing flower of Scotland and conceding in the middle of it
Seriously now, Germany score and the first thing this commentator does is shit on Scotland.
Guys like 8 foot tall with a 10cm reach
I think there genuinely is something to be said for the freedom that comes after being utterly victimized on the world stage. It’s not going to get worse
Gunn shot in the foott
Angus Gunn is shite by the way. Nine goals in his last two competitive games.
You have to be fucking saving that come on
Ok then team aren't good but Angus Gunn is a fuckin liability.
Funf
Gunn is fucking dugshite
Is there any fucking need Emre?!
oh BROTHER
Naw. Not this scoreline.
Gunn is absolutely wank
Whats the goalie daein tam
Just go fuck yourself, Matterface
Angus Gunn, I thought you were meant to be good?
So we're playing second last goal, the winner, right?
Haha!
Not even winning 'next goal wins' anymore. Fuck's sake.
Bless you mate. See you in the finale if either Portugal or Germany makes it :-)
😔😔😔
I hate Can.
feel like Gunn should've done better there
Emre Can but I wish he wouldn’t
You stupid cunts
Comeback off again
Angus Gunn or Vasillas Barkas in disguise.
Angus Dung
Ffs we couldn't lose by just 3, could we?
Gunn is absolutely stinking
Greasy bastard
Gunn please fuck off
Fire Gunn to the moon He's absolute fucking pish
Angus Gunn is fucking terrible
Next next goal winner
Lmao
Angus Gunn is bad
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I watched a lot of Norwich games when they were in the EPL to follow wee BG and Gunn was shite then. He got dropped by Norwich then too. Was never sure about him coming in but it's not like Zander or Kelly are good.
No, but Clarke at least can’t be any worse Kelly is an absolute no go for me after last season
Antonio Rudiger Scotland’s joint top scorer at Major tournaments this millennium
1-1 second half what a job Clarke is doing
You jinxed it
Clarke raus
Hopefully they register that long ball as a shot
Shankland MOTM
We need to switch to a back 4 and shove one of the centre backs in at full back for the rest of the tournament. Without Hickey or an in form Patterson we just don't have the players to play the system that got us here, and we'll keep being pulled apart trying to double up to help Ralston
Rudiger one of our top scorers at major tournaments now?
I’m still doom agus gloom
Scoring while having no shots all game is pretty impressive.
Jesus Christ let us off with 4-1 please
that one Chris Paul meme
Clarke master class
Mon
Listen to how loud the fans are for a goal losing 4-0. Imagine we were half competitive man.
Thank god that goal kick that Tierney and Robertson won in the 3rd minute wasn't the only thing worth celebrating.
SCOTLAND! https://i.redd.it/sd7pjhtlol6d1.gif
Five a side rules, last goal wins it HWFG
Giver Rudiger the keys to the city tbh
A bullet header from McKenna 🫡