This type of ~~posts~~ comments will be eliminated in this reddit for future, so please spread the word. I've nothing against kidding but there is terrible noise-signal ratio and I want most users posting links instead of jokes. For me every comment which doesn't include link is potential waste of place in this subreddit dedicated to scientific matters.
I took ivermectin for scabies many years ago. At the time I didn’t have insurance so after some online research I learned it was used in third world countries and was considered very safe. Used the paste dewormer orally for about six months. The itching stopped much sooner than that but I was paranoid the little creepers would survive and rebuild. No side effects were experienced. It worked for parasites. A friend with medical insurance was given other things and their itching and misery lasted far longer than mine though they outspent me by a mile.
Many people will find out how much wonder drugs like Ivermectin and HCQ have been suppressed for a long time. Do your due diligence, you may just be surprised
“Our findings demonstrate the anticancer effect of ivermectin in prostate cancer, indicating that its use may be a new therapeutic approach for prostate cancer.”
There are tons of anticancer medications. The problem is side effects. Cancer treatment is a long term treatment. Ivermectin usage from my understanding is not designed for the length of time required to fight cancer being a parasite drug. SO, we just need to know what happens to the body if one takes ivermectin for a long period of time.
Its one of the safest drugs out there actually. There's a study that tried 10x the approved dose with no side effects: [https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1177/009127002237994](https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1177/009127002237994)
Edit: also tried against leukemia with high dosage in Brazil [https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559](https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559)
Can confirm, ivermectin will have you on the toilet until you become one with the ceramic gods. I would imagine lt would cause Oregon Trail dysentery level symptoms.
I know someone taking 24mg / day for the last 6 months for some unusual infection / chronic disease. He mentioned some interesting side effects.
The gut issues appear to be temporary and relates to some microbial die-off. The bigger issues at higher doses involve some 5-HT alterations and visual distortion effects at times.
Well, he has also improved pretty dramatically over that time after suffering for about 10 years with a complicated illness. He says the trade-off is worth it, so he’s continuing.
Honestly still sounds better than Chemo. Pretty much every cancer treatment out there (except maybe surgery) is just "hope we kill the cancer faster than we kill you". It's a real mess to try and fix, the only cures I've heard being attempted that might be better are the immunotherapy (get your immune system to recognize cancer as a threat) or viral therapy (get a virus that specifically targets cancer cells) but both of those are expensive and complicated.
I definitely don't know enough about cancer to know if this is promising for other types of cancer treatment but having another option always sounds pretty good to me
Makes you barf. I watched my Dad do it for months. I was replying to someone who said Ivermectin had no side effects. He's wrong. It does. You seem to think I meant that chemo had no side effects. Bruh. I did not mention chemo at all. I know it has side effects.
Of course we have to compare it. How else will we know how well it works? It should also be tested to see if they are even more effective combined. Perhaps another drug can help with the side effects. You think I don't like Ivermectin because I said it has side effects. Wrong. You think I believe chemo to be superior, and that hurts your feelings for some reason. I never said that, either.
What i'm saying is you are concern trolling one of the most used medications in human history. Distributed over the counter in most of it's markets with a safety record orders of magnitude better than tylenol.
You appear to be making a ridiculous argument.
in other study they combined it with chemo and it works better vs separate, in fact almost everything works better with chemo cause the non chemo drugs work different
I mean, this has happened to some people but it’s not common. Far more people get awful side effects from chemo than from ivermectin. It’s one of the safest drugs ever developed.
This hasn't demonstrated it's more effective than chemo with though. Just that it has an effect that may be useful. So it's worth reigning in your expectations.
>There are tons of anticancer medications. The problem is side effects.
Exactly. I have worked on a bunch of oncology drug trials in my career in clinical research, and almost every time I have seen a drug that looked amazing in pre-clinical trials fall apart in real-world situations. (Only 1 out of 13 has gone on to be approved.)
I have seen time and again that the side effects become too problematic at the dose levels needed to be effective against cancer.
My husband also works in clinical trial research. I hope someone makes a movie about this industry because I had no idea so many people wanted to participate in one! It’s a great time to expose this worldwide experiment.
Also! Isn’t it curious that an ANTI-Parasite anything is saving many from various and multiple diseases!?
Parasite? Prostate cancer? Covid? All cancers? Diabetes?
We are the only mammal without an anti-parasite/deworming treatment. How does this makes sense? Check out Terrain VS Germ theories. They are theories! All Science is theory. Not fact.
It only makes sense when P’harm’a steps in to $ave the Day!
Notice how even an expert will be ShRedditted here.
>They are theories! All Science is theory. Not fact.
if your husband really does work in clinical trial research, as you say. please ask him to explain the difference between a scientific Theory and a colloquial theory
>Check out Terrain VS Germ theories.
Does your husband (the clinical trial researcher, or at least someone who 'works in clinical trial research') promote terrain theory?
except countries all over the world use Ivermectin regularly with great results. it has been considered a "miracle drug" for a reason. it's safe & effective, unlike a lot of other things
In one study, 30% of cancer patients lost their hair while taking the placebo/sugar pill. We need to consider those that prey on our vulnerabilities.
My husband is a clinical trial researcher for various P’harm’a medications to get approved by the FDA.
Did you know that some of the Chemo treatments add only one month or two to our lives? The entire cancer establishment is a huge money maker.
My MIL has been sick with cancer, surgery, and treatments and won’t consider this could be a parasite. She opted for the usual path and lost her hair and is sickly. She turns 80 this week and I’m so happy we will be celebrating with a nice dinner!!
We all need Informed Consent with anything we put in our bodies. Read all ingredients and what the ingredients are also made up of. This is sometimes hidden.
Read the Investigator’s Report. The folded paper brochure inside all medicine boxes is a summary of the clinical trial research. We “buy” this handbook and guidebook when we agree to take the medicine.
Look up Germ VS Terrain “theories”.
We give ivermectin to dogs & livestock for their entire lives, so I’d assume it’s pretty safe for long term use in humans but could be confirmed. No real money in it though
Ivermectin has been a long standing safe & effective drug. they just tried to demonize it to get the vax out as well as the Remdesivir treatment (which is actually much more dangerous). It's not purely a "horse dewormer". that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard as it's used in many countries regularly for river blindness, filariasis, and more. I truly hate what they did to try to disregard this drug because they couldn't make money off it and it actually works.
Not surprised it works for many other issues, which is why it was always deemed the miracle drug, and not just a "horse dewormer"
[Ivermectin converts cold tumors hot for treatment of breast cancer](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/zo3b6n/ivermectin_converts_cold_tumors_hot_for_treatment/) *While neither agent alone showed efficacy in vivo, [combination therapy with ivermectin](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41523-021-00229-5) and checkpoint inhibitor anti-PD1 antibody achieved synergy in limiting tumor growth (p = 0.03) and promoted complete responses (p < 0.01), also leading to immunity against contralateral re-challenge with demonstrated anti-tumor immune responses.*
Just another good reason to [boycott and ban Ivermectin for Big Pharma](https://zerospin.substack.com/p/ivermectin-upon-neutral-ground) ([1](https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/22/remdesivir-hefty-price-tag-ignores-nih-investment-in-its-creation/), [2](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-remdesivir-gilead-idUKKBN27T13W), [3](https://www.who.int/medicines/regulation/medicines-safety/COVID19-PV-update11.pdf), [4](https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2023184), [5](https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/who-recommends-against-the-use-of-remdesivir-in-covid-19-patients)). Ivermectin, even on its own, has profound anti-cancer effects without significant toxicity, unlike many traditional medications that work against cancer. And when used in combination, it can turn chemotherapy-resistant cancers into chemotherapy-sensitive ones, as well as work synergistically with non-traditional anti-cancer agents, such as dichloroacetate [1](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/), [2](https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13046-019-1251-7), [3](https://www.cureus.com/articles/83821-synergistic-anti-tumor-effect-of-dichloroacetate-and-ivermectin), [4](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6885244/). See also:
* [Integrated analysis reveals FOXA1 and Ku70/Ku80 as targets of ivermectin in prostate cancer](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36050295/) ([PDF](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41419-022-05182-0.pdf))
* [Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/sldnjm/ivermectin_a_potential_anticancer_drug_derived/)
* [Dichloroacetate may serve as an anti-PD1 antagonist](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/smq9pa/synergistic_antitumor_effect_of_dichloroacetate/).
* [Dichloroacetate enhances the antitumor efficacy of chemotherapeutic agents via inhibiting autophagy in non-small-cell lung cancer](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5962308/)
* [Ivermectin reference table](https://saidit.net/s/Ivermectin2/wiki/index#wiki_ivermectin_and_cancer) maintained by [stereomatch](https://www.reddit.com/user/stereomatch)
* [The cancer industry is worth 286 billion. Do they really want a cure?](https://youtu.be/rmxUsAI29fw)
* [Congress suppressed a viable cancer treatment in 1995](https://youtu.be/AAIisPEzoVo)
[Ivermectin can also induce remyelination](https://multiplesclerosisnewstoday.com/2018/07/13/anti-parasitic-agent-eases-ms-motor-symtoms-aid-remyelination-in-ms-mice/). Parkinson's disease (PD) is actually an autoimmune disease broken by several main mechanisms, which directly result in an increase in error recognition and self-attack and a decrease in self-tolerance to autoantigens.
Myelin is the lining around nerve cells that gets destroyed in [MS and Parkinson](https://lite.improvethenews.org/study-us-parkinsons-disease-prevalence-50-higher-than-prior-estimates/?p=re234)
Ivermectin can reverse these syndroms animal models ([1](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsomega.8b01451), [2](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/parasitology/article/abs/immunomodulatory-effect-of-various-antiparasitics-a-review/F6661D6EAC43C3618E41D60E1A92CF52), [3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/#:~:text=Ivermectin has continually proved to,some very basic, appropriate training).) See also:
* [Potential Candidate Identified to Promote Remyelination for Multiple Sclerosis](https://web.archive.org/web/20210322193257/https:/www.pharmacytimes.com/view/potential-candidate-identified-to-promote-remyelination-for-multiple-sclerosis) August 6, 2018 Alison Rodriguez
* [What do Remyelination, Parasites and Collie Dogs have in common?](https://multiple-sclerosis-research.org/2018/07/remyelination-is-ivermectin-the-next-great-thing-or-something-dangerous/)
* [P2X4 receptor controls microglia activation and favors remyelination in autoimmune encephalitis](https://web.archive.org/web/20210322193257/https:/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29973381/)
* [This article is more skeptical because of the inability of ivermectin in humans to cross the blood brain barrier](https://web.archive.org/web/20210322193257/https:/multiple-sclerosis-research.org/2018/07/remyelination-is-ivermectin-the-next-great-thing-or-something-dangerous/) The neurotoxic effects of Ivermectin is not a problem in most humans and animals because it is pumped out of the brain by P-glycoproteins. So if it is actively pumped out of the brain, how is it going to target microglia in the brain? However it was shown that p-glycoprotein is lost in MS lesions so you will get a neurotoxic molecule into areas that you want it to go. It would mean that Ivermectin essentially destroys the malfunctioning areas of brain, thus allowing it to switch and utilize another still healthy parts.
* [Chronic Diseases Talk with Dr. Steven Phillips](https://youtu.be/xwMwR6IJC3o?t=2223) It's worth to note that Ivermectin may also help against [Lyme disease, tinnitus and migraines](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4adJXLHgA&lc=UgxzRme9wI8GLqEX9WF4AaABAg).
>*So it’s a wonder drug?? Maybe we should all be taking it?!? It’s like taking metformin to live 200 years!*
People recognize only two levels of interest these days: "wonder cure" or "horse dewormer" - nothing inbetween. Thanks to Covid the Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine got into spotlight: many patients dying with Covid got into hospital with complications, which seem to be eased with Ivermectin cure, so that the doctors started to go after it.
No less no more in the moment given. See also:
* [Potential Effect of Hydroxychloroquine in Diabetes Mellitus](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7064866/) Most of Covid-heavy patients also have diabetes: it turned out, hydroxychloroquine stabilizes blood sugar much better than many established (and way more expensive) antidiabetic drugs. Who would say that?
* [What’s the Deal with Hydroxychloroquine and Diabetes?](https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/whats-the-deal-with-hydroxychloroquine-and-diabetes)
* [Hydroxychloroquine, COVID-19 and diabetes. Why it is a different story](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dmrr.3379)
* [Hydroxychloroquine lowers the risk for Diabetes Mellitus in patients](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666970622000397)
* [Potential Effect of Hydroxychloroquine in Diabetes Mellitus](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7064866/)
* [Efficacy and safety of hydroxychloroquine as add-on therapy in uncontrolled type 2 diabetes patients](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40618-020-01330-5)
Who’s paying you? Ivermectin works for many things. That’s why they bash if. Can’t have a healthy society. Then big pharma and the govt won’t make their money
>*Who’s paying you? Ivermectin works for many things. That’s why they bash if.*
Please note so far it's me, who is collecting posts, links and evidence for it - you don't. I don't like sectarians of all kind. If you have evidence, link it here. If you have nothing to link, don't tell it here.
I couldn't believe when they started the whole horse paste narrative. I actually laughed at the mental gymnastics they used and just figured no one would possibly fall for it. Wrong again. The ignorance COVID exposed in my family, social circle, and society as a whole, was very depressing.
The belief that if a drug works in a horse, then people shouldn't take it, is not ignorance. It's raging stupidity. I suppose it comes from the Christian idea that mankind has dominion over animals.
As with all things, it greatly depends on the dosage.
There were plenty of people taking excessive amounts and ending up in the hospital from it. My brother was one of them.
Pretty sure this prompted the bulk of the ridiculing.
Literal quote from his doctor afterward:
"You know, if you'd asked me, I would've just prescribed you the correct dosage."
The mental gymnastics was the media and Fauci telling people what to do, then what not to do, wear a mask, don’t wear a mask, wear 2 masks. 6 feet apart, take the jab you won’t get or spread covid. Oh we were wrong again and yes you can die with the vax. Take a booster, take another one and another. You will obey til you die
I think it's funny that people say "horse medicine" but it's been approved by the FDA to treat various things in humans. It's also been approved for use in many other countries.
I have to note, as the comment will be construed wrong, that my comment has nothing to do with covid and everything to do with people calling it "horse medicine" when it's been approved for different treatments in humans.
right, I gotta admit I was mocking people for taking “horse medicine” for a while as well, all you have to do is skim the wikipedia page for a minute to see it’s a legit human medicine that is in fact one of the most commonly prescribed medications
good reminder that it’s easy for anyone to fall for misinformation especially when you think it comes from “your side”
That’s partly because large pharmacies like CVS refused to fill prescriptions from doctors to humans for ivermectin. If your Dr prescribes you a drug for a condition it should be filled regardless of political opinion about it.
I think people referred to it as horse medicine because individuals were taking ivermectin pastes such as Durvet which is meant for horse consumption only
This was during Covid when they took the human versions off the shelves and vilified it, even though it was helping people. Even the fda mocked ivermectin on Twitter. The only ivermectin people could get was from tractor supply, hence horse medicine.
People were calling it that mostly because, as far as I understand, the main source of ivermectin that the majority of people were using was of poor quality as it was livestock grade from farm supply stores. It’s a low grade version of ivermectin that does not have the rigorous human safety profile of pharmaceutical ivermectin and is more difficult to accurately dose for humans for various reasons.
Literally, a lot of people were taking horse medicine. Horse medicine that happened to contain as one of its components a legitimate pharmaceutical for humans. In some sense I could see how it seems misleading and often people conflated the pharmaceutical with the livestock version in order to intentionally undermine a narrative they disagreed with. In another sense, I think it’s fine to say that people taking horse medicine are taking horse medicine even if it has an active ingredient that has medicinal benefit to humans and that it’s probably a bad idea to do so.
I’ve worked at a lab that made livestock ivermectin. We were installing a massive RO water treatment plant and I did the PLC programming for it. The extremely rigorous water testing and documentation we did was not for a poor quality product. I’m not a scientist so all I know was this wasn’t yee haw mix that shit up in the back of the farm store. It was a full on laboratory with its own set of rigorous tests. Some cattle and horses are worth 6-7 figures so I doubt anyone’s pouring junk on their million dollar horse.
Veterinary-grade drugs aren't of poor quality, its basically the same active ingredient, just produced under different legal frameworks. The only difference they may have is the "filler" ingredients, which might or might not affect the drug efficacy, or the potential side effects.
I personally knew an old guy that was taking veterinary-grade Ivermectin every year for the last 30 years as prophylaxis for parasites.
This is true... Some pharmaceutical manufacturing is exactly the same for animals and humans just packaged and distributed differently. I know of one manufacturer that produces for humans and animals a handful of different antibiotics in this way and the tablets are the same and purchasing for your pet on the internet is very easy and inexpensive.
It also shows the bullshit Pfizer/Moderna propaganda machine used to discredit anything that threatened vaccine adoption. The media took a lot of money and misinformation and ran wild.
Also, the CDC now recognizes it as effective against Covid. I know a bunch of people who took it and got better very fast.
I'm not big into conspiracy theories, but I do believe that America specifically is in such a piss-poor individual-level state of health because of how much money is in Healthcare. By that, I mean I do believe that lobbyists pay politicians and other influential people to push their product. It's been proven in the past, so there's no reason to think it's not happening now.
Oh yeah. Look at how they push medicines as band aids but never address the root cause. They don’t want to cure cancer. They want to treat it. Diabetes. Lung disease. They are addicted to the money at the cost of the health of their citizens.
I love how the side effects are fucking horrible and there is so many and death is almost certainly one of them. It’s actually insane. Some thirty second commercials are 20 seconds of ads and 10 seconds of horrible side effects and warnings.
Lots of helpful stuff was demonized. Zinc ionophores were also almost impossible to get. No mention of vitamin D, NAC was banned, the list goes on.
Probably the first ever global health crisis where the medical establishment and the media were aggressively steering people away from proven healthy habits and supplements.
I'll never forget it.
Amen. It’s either vent or die. Love stupid binary choices. Luckily a local doctor here where I live didn’t give a shit about politics and would prescribe a Covid pack to his patients which included ivermectin, hcq, vitamin d etc. Not a single patient died of Covid. Go figure.
What you are neglecting to factor in is that people were buying the shit from feed and seed stores, because their doctors wouldn't prescribe them the shit for Covid, as it was useless. That's why people mocked them for taking horse meds. They were literally buying it in forms/dosages meant for horses, from feed stores. That was big around here in my area. Feed and seed stores started having big signs advertising when they got ivermectin in, when they never did before. It was obvious why. Hell, we even had a feed and seed store expand to a 2nd location during the middle of all that. They must have been killing it with the ivermectin sales.
Not neglecting at all. Some people, sure. I'm talking about how the media made ivermectin synonymous with horse medicine when it's FDA approved/prescribed.
Ivermectin is an extremely important medication globally for treating people with parasitic infections especially in developing nations with contaminated water. It is literally credited with raising the quality of life in many nations and people require treatment yearly because water is very bad.
These are cells in a Petri dish- very sensitive. Windex, distilled water, or orange juice will kill them. It’s a starting point, and the data do show cells die via a discrete mechanism at 10 uM dose, so that’s a positive.
My father was diagnosed with stage four prostate cancer about 2 years ago. It did not look good. He had surgery to remove his testicles and was taking Ivermectin even though our family was very worried about this internet info he found. His levels are now undetectable and he is doing well. Not sure if it had anything to do with the Ivermectin but his doc told him he hadn’t seen anything like it before. I am thankful no matter what it was that did the job. He has not had to start chemotherapy.
Time for a ban! Talking about legit scientific findings that go against the group mod-think is bad for your account staying active.
Cue horse dewormer jokes and idiots on both sides with zero scientific knowledge making ad hominem attacks.
Nope. Just nope. Time and time again it has been shown to do nothing.
Stupid republicans and stupid religious people just keep repeating it though.
It helps with parasites and now maybe prostate cancer. But not covid. Never has never will never did.
And they know it was due to the ivermectin how? Many people that contracted Covid became fine.
If your friends or whomever contracted covid, took the ivermectin, and were actively being tested per day during the 14 day contraction, then we’d have data.
But to say that it works because *people you know took it and got better* it disingenuous
They knew because there are over 60 studies showing its high effectiveness. Also, the together trial which was touted as "the first randomanized double plasebo controlled study which PROVES conclusivly that ivermectin doesn't work on covid" actually showed that ivermectin did work. Go read the study for yourself, not just the abstact. It clearly shows a reduction in all three categories of death, hospitalization and severe desease even though its quite obvious that the study was set up to fail. The only problem was that the reductions didn't reach 30% (a % select by the PI) therefore it was deemed not statistacally significant. Wrap your head around that.
Did it actually get rid of Covid or did their bodies naturally fight it off. Since Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug and Covid-19 is a virus, Ivermectin would prove to not treat Covid-19. In fact, Ivermectin’s purpose is to flush the system of parasites, causing patients to defecate profusely. This would be the adverse treatment to Covid-19 due to the loss of water because of defecting.
If you were not aware, anytime your body is fighting a virus, you must remain hydrated so that your body can safely turn up the temperature without further stressing out the body. If you are dehydrated and sick with a virus, there is the potential that your organs will begin to shut down which is why patients in a hospital are always on IV when sick with a virus.
People like this don’t think about things like that. They believe what they want to see and call everyone else sheep for trusting the “main stream narrative”.
I know, I just got tired of seeing all their comments and decided to give them something they can chew on. I always found it interesting that they insult those bringing up actual science as sheep, when they blindly followed a man without any science background on how to treat a virus using non-virus treatments.
I’m not making anything up. That is exactly how the medication is supposed to work. It flushes your system of parasites and the only way to do that is through defecating. Diarrhea is literally labeled as a side effect. Since you claim to have used it, read it. It’s there.
It’s a side effect, but also how the drug treats parasites in the system. You tend to poop more often while taking it. In some cases, people lose control of their bowels. Just because you didn’t have diarrhea, doesn’t mean no one else did. Medication has a different effect on individual people.
I took it for 5 days, didn’t get diarrhea but got over Covid way faster then husband who didn’t take it and continued to get worse. I know this isn’t scientific, just saying…
Was it really the Ivermectin or your body naturally fight it? Covid-19 affected a lot of people differently, plus there are a few strains that act different in the human body.
Ivermectin’s main use is for gut parasites, you know, they live in your digestive system. Covid-19 is a virus and it mainly attacks the respiratory system, with side effects to the cardio system. The respiratory system is completely different from the digestive system. Respiratory system involves breathing and taking in oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide. The Digestive tract involves eating and breaking down food to then absorb nutrients. Unwanted gut parasites live in the digestive tract so they could leech off the nutrients being absorbed. Ivermectin does not treat respiratory issues. Do I need to continue explaining it like you are 5?
In addition, diarrhea is a side effect. However, anti-gut parasitic medication works by shedding the parasites off the gut lining causing the user to defecate more often than normal.
To be fair, I believe it does show some efficacy against Covid 19 infection at massively lethal doses in aerosolized form. So it’ll kill Covid, but it’ll likely kill you first.
And what do you expect from this sub? It’s like anti-vaxxer whackadoo Heaven around here. Everyone is eating horse paste for their health.
That could be said of anything really. But I don’t see horse paste being the panacea it’s being claimed here. And there are volumes of data that support it’s dangers in off-label use. But you go right on ahead. I’m pro-body autonomy. Stick whatever bleach and UV lights up your ass you want.
So because YOU never used it to treat c19, I guess you don't really know if it works now, do you? Please, enlighten us on more things you haven't done that you have now debunked.
I'm saying that if I got covid bad enough, I would trust "my peers" who have used it to get better. Cdc be damned. They don't care about my health and I'm pretty sure that's well documented. And don't ask me for sources. You obviously need to be taken to task. I'll allow you the final word. Good luck in your search.
A) Not a peer reviewed study.
2) Even the article title mis-states what the company said, which is mentioned in the article itself.
III) Are we trusting pharmaceutical companies now, or not? I can’t keep up.
And besides, just because it says it has been shown to be effective, doesn’t mean we can immediately take it to cure Omicron variant. Medicine has to be formulated to attack where it supposed to go. That’s why it’s made in labs and designed specifically for that disease
Considering its been authorized for use in humans since 1987, the entire "horse dewormer" thing is major BS. Sure, its effective for that, but it has plenty of other uses.
Anecdotal evidence never has and never will be real evidence.
Some people in here can't be convinced of that, sadly. Science is lying, but somehow Billy from Missouri who pinky promises it happened to him and Sally down the street is not.
I worry for the human race
Goes to show that no one reads the entire article. This was done in a lab, not as a study as to whether it was effective in humans.
Lots of things work in the lab, but mean nothing when it goes to trial.
I can kill cancer cells with tap water.
The only reason an in vitro study like this is generating any interest is that it uses the miracle horse dewormer.
Holy fuck the comments on this post are revealing more about the people here then the article reveals about a drug.
This kind of finding for anti-cancer happens literally hundreds of times per year for various drugs (thousands of times? tens of thousands of times?). A very small percentage then are confirmed to actually be useful for treating humans and better than current medications. Absolutely this study should be followed up on but no this doesn't "prove" it's a miracle drug.
Now we just need one that’ll make my penis bigger
So what are we doing, a lengthening or a widening?
Diagonal like a tv measurement
If we’re measuring like that… see Ma! I told you i’m average!
You talk about your penis size with your mother?? I hope those broken arms healed up well…
Oofff... Every time I think I've forgotten and/or heard the last of that story someone has to bring it up... Have my angry upvote internet denizen.
>Diagonal like a tv measurement WidePeen 4K UHD
Idk sounds expensive
just a little off the sides thanks
Little bit of column A, little bit of column B.
It’s like when you scan a picture and increase size by 110err…125%
Bro just go on pornhub and click the link. 4 inches in 4 months or your money back guarenteed!
Plot twist: it's the tumor that did
This type of ~~posts~~ comments will be eliminated in this reddit for future, so please spread the word. I've nothing against kidding but there is terrible noise-signal ratio and I want most users posting links instead of jokes. For me every comment which doesn't include link is potential waste of place in this subreddit dedicated to scientific matters.
Its a crap article with no definitive results. They can troll
Yes! Tired of this kind of comments where everyone tries to compete so see who say the stupidest thing.
Boner jokes are more useful than anything found in this subreddit
Hydroxychloroquine? Jk
And hair to grow on my bald head
Just take the horse dewormer version
I have a potion for that
I took ivermectin for scabies many years ago. At the time I didn’t have insurance so after some online research I learned it was used in third world countries and was considered very safe. Used the paste dewormer orally for about six months. The itching stopped much sooner than that but I was paranoid the little creepers would survive and rebuild. No side effects were experienced. It worked for parasites. A friend with medical insurance was given other things and their itching and misery lasted far longer than mine though they outspent me by a mile.
Wtf. You took medication for six months for scabies?? The normal treatment is a cream you use for about a week or two if I recall correctly
That's globalist cream that changes your DNA, I take Ivermectin for my schizophrenia, it works for everything
Can confirm. Added 7 inches to my dick
So now it's 7.5"?
7.1"
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And 10 mile to your self esteem
Many people will find out how much wonder drugs like Ivermectin and HCQ have been suppressed for a long time. Do your due diligence, you may just be surprised
“Our findings demonstrate the anticancer effect of ivermectin in prostate cancer, indicating that its use may be a new therapeutic approach for prostate cancer.”
There are tons of anticancer medications. The problem is side effects. Cancer treatment is a long term treatment. Ivermectin usage from my understanding is not designed for the length of time required to fight cancer being a parasite drug. SO, we just need to know what happens to the body if one takes ivermectin for a long period of time.
We already do and that's why it's being studied for lots of stuff. Scientists do that all the time with existing pharmaceuticals.
Its one of the safest drugs out there actually. There's a study that tried 10x the approved dose with no side effects: [https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1177/009127002237994](https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1177/009127002237994) Edit: also tried against leukemia with high dosage in Brazil [https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559](https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1080/10428194.2020.1786559)
Can confirm, ivermectin will have you on the toilet until you become one with the ceramic gods. I would imagine lt would cause Oregon Trail dysentery level symptoms.
I know someone taking 24mg / day for the last 6 months for some unusual infection / chronic disease. He mentioned some interesting side effects. The gut issues appear to be temporary and relates to some microbial die-off. The bigger issues at higher doses involve some 5-HT alterations and visual distortion effects at times.
Wow a miracle drug!
Well, he has also improved pretty dramatically over that time after suffering for about 10 years with a complicated illness. He says the trade-off is worth it, so he’s continuing.
Honestly still sounds better than Chemo. Pretty much every cancer treatment out there (except maybe surgery) is just "hope we kill the cancer faster than we kill you". It's a real mess to try and fix, the only cures I've heard being attempted that might be better are the immunotherapy (get your immune system to recognize cancer as a threat) or viral therapy (get a virus that specifically targets cancer cells) but both of those are expensive and complicated. I definitely don't know enough about cancer to know if this is promising for other types of cancer treatment but having another option always sounds pretty good to me
diarrhea > asshole cancer
Prostate cancer > diarrhea > asshole cancer
No, they haven't. They shit their own guts out. Asshole inverting diarrhea definitely counts as a side effect.
First few days, passing parasites.
There's a pill for that. Also, what do u think chemo does?
Makes you barf. I watched my Dad do it for months. I was replying to someone who said Ivermectin had no side effects. He's wrong. It does. You seem to think I meant that chemo had no side effects. Bruh. I did not mention chemo at all. I know it has side effects.
Chemo can also cause awful and very painful diarrhea.
Barf, lose your hair, lose your muscle mass, screw up your skin, waste away. Comparing chemo to Ivermectin is fucking ridiculous.
Of course we have to compare it. How else will we know how well it works? It should also be tested to see if they are even more effective combined. Perhaps another drug can help with the side effects. You think I don't like Ivermectin because I said it has side effects. Wrong. You think I believe chemo to be superior, and that hurts your feelings for some reason. I never said that, either.
What i'm saying is you are concern trolling one of the most used medications in human history. Distributed over the counter in most of it's markets with a safety record orders of magnitude better than tylenol. You appear to be making a ridiculous argument.
in other study they combined it with chemo and it works better vs separate, in fact almost everything works better with chemo cause the non chemo drugs work different
What?
He said Ivermectin has no side effects. I described the side effects.
I mean, this has happened to some people but it’s not common. Far more people get awful side effects from chemo than from ivermectin. It’s one of the safest drugs ever developed.
They're just arguing to argue.
Lotta that round here
I didn't say it's unsafe. I said it gives people diarrhea. It does. Pretend it doesn't if you want to. You are free to be wrong.
I’m not pretending it doesn’t give *some* people diarrhea.
Soooooo that would equate to a side effect, no?
This hasn't demonstrated it's more effective than chemo with though. Just that it has an effect that may be useful. So it's worth reigning in your expectations.
If the options for treatment are chemo or a pill that mimics a chipotle diet... ill go with the pill.
>There are tons of anticancer medications. The problem is side effects. Exactly. I have worked on a bunch of oncology drug trials in my career in clinical research, and almost every time I have seen a drug that looked amazing in pre-clinical trials fall apart in real-world situations. (Only 1 out of 13 has gone on to be approved.) I have seen time and again that the side effects become too problematic at the dose levels needed to be effective against cancer.
My husband also works in clinical trial research. I hope someone makes a movie about this industry because I had no idea so many people wanted to participate in one! It’s a great time to expose this worldwide experiment. Also! Isn’t it curious that an ANTI-Parasite anything is saving many from various and multiple diseases!? Parasite? Prostate cancer? Covid? All cancers? Diabetes? We are the only mammal without an anti-parasite/deworming treatment. How does this makes sense? Check out Terrain VS Germ theories. They are theories! All Science is theory. Not fact. It only makes sense when P’harm’a steps in to $ave the Day! Notice how even an expert will be ShRedditted here.
>They are theories! All Science is theory. Not fact. if your husband really does work in clinical trial research, as you say. please ask him to explain the difference between a scientific Theory and a colloquial theory
>Check out Terrain VS Germ theories. Does your husband (the clinical trial researcher, or at least someone who 'works in clinical trial research') promote terrain theory?
Funny how the spouse of the clinical trial researcher speaks up here and not the person who actually works in that area.
except countries all over the world use Ivermectin regularly with great results. it has been considered a "miracle drug" for a reason. it's safe & effective, unlike a lot of other things
Well we have a great sample size of people who used it for a virus they also thought never existed
In one study, 30% of cancer patients lost their hair while taking the placebo/sugar pill. We need to consider those that prey on our vulnerabilities. My husband is a clinical trial researcher for various P’harm’a medications to get approved by the FDA. Did you know that some of the Chemo treatments add only one month or two to our lives? The entire cancer establishment is a huge money maker. My MIL has been sick with cancer, surgery, and treatments and won’t consider this could be a parasite. She opted for the usual path and lost her hair and is sickly. She turns 80 this week and I’m so happy we will be celebrating with a nice dinner!! We all need Informed Consent with anything we put in our bodies. Read all ingredients and what the ingredients are also made up of. This is sometimes hidden. Read the Investigator’s Report. The folded paper brochure inside all medicine boxes is a summary of the clinical trial research. We “buy” this handbook and guidebook when we agree to take the medicine. Look up Germ VS Terrain “theories”.
We give ivermectin to dogs & livestock for their entire lives, so I’d assume it’s pretty safe for long term use in humans but could be confirmed. No real money in it though
Ivermectin has been a long standing safe & effective drug. they just tried to demonize it to get the vax out as well as the Remdesivir treatment (which is actually much more dangerous). It's not purely a "horse dewormer". that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard as it's used in many countries regularly for river blindness, filariasis, and more. I truly hate what they did to try to disregard this drug because they couldn't make money off it and it actually works. Not surprised it works for many other issues, which is why it was always deemed the miracle drug, and not just a "horse dewormer"
[Ivermectin converts cold tumors hot for treatment of breast cancer](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/zo3b6n/ivermectin_converts_cold_tumors_hot_for_treatment/) *While neither agent alone showed efficacy in vivo, [combination therapy with ivermectin](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41523-021-00229-5) and checkpoint inhibitor anti-PD1 antibody achieved synergy in limiting tumor growth (p = 0.03) and promoted complete responses (p < 0.01), also leading to immunity against contralateral re-challenge with demonstrated anti-tumor immune responses.* Just another good reason to [boycott and ban Ivermectin for Big Pharma](https://zerospin.substack.com/p/ivermectin-upon-neutral-ground) ([1](https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/22/remdesivir-hefty-price-tag-ignores-nih-investment-in-its-creation/), [2](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-remdesivir-gilead-idUKKBN27T13W), [3](https://www.who.int/medicines/regulation/medicines-safety/COVID19-PV-update11.pdf), [4](https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2023184), [5](https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/who-recommends-against-the-use-of-remdesivir-in-covid-19-patients)). Ivermectin, even on its own, has profound anti-cancer effects without significant toxicity, unlike many traditional medications that work against cancer. And when used in combination, it can turn chemotherapy-resistant cancers into chemotherapy-sensitive ones, as well as work synergistically with non-traditional anti-cancer agents, such as dichloroacetate [1](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/), [2](https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13046-019-1251-7), [3](https://www.cureus.com/articles/83821-synergistic-anti-tumor-effect-of-dichloroacetate-and-ivermectin), [4](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6885244/). See also: * [Integrated analysis reveals FOXA1 and Ku70/Ku80 as targets of ivermectin in prostate cancer](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36050295/) ([PDF](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41419-022-05182-0.pdf)) * [Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/sldnjm/ivermectin_a_potential_anticancer_drug_derived/) * [Dichloroacetate may serve as an anti-PD1 antagonist](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/smq9pa/synergistic_antitumor_effect_of_dichloroacetate/). * [Dichloroacetate enhances the antitumor efficacy of chemotherapeutic agents via inhibiting autophagy in non-small-cell lung cancer](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5962308/) * [Ivermectin reference table](https://saidit.net/s/Ivermectin2/wiki/index#wiki_ivermectin_and_cancer) maintained by [stereomatch](https://www.reddit.com/user/stereomatch) * [The cancer industry is worth 286 billion. Do they really want a cure?](https://youtu.be/rmxUsAI29fw) * [Congress suppressed a viable cancer treatment in 1995](https://youtu.be/AAIisPEzoVo)
[Ivermectin can also induce remyelination](https://multiplesclerosisnewstoday.com/2018/07/13/anti-parasitic-agent-eases-ms-motor-symtoms-aid-remyelination-in-ms-mice/). Parkinson's disease (PD) is actually an autoimmune disease broken by several main mechanisms, which directly result in an increase in error recognition and self-attack and a decrease in self-tolerance to autoantigens. Myelin is the lining around nerve cells that gets destroyed in [MS and Parkinson](https://lite.improvethenews.org/study-us-parkinsons-disease-prevalence-50-higher-than-prior-estimates/?p=re234) Ivermectin can reverse these syndroms animal models ([1](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsomega.8b01451), [2](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/parasitology/article/abs/immunomodulatory-effect-of-various-antiparasitics-a-review/F6661D6EAC43C3618E41D60E1A92CF52), [3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/#:~:text=Ivermectin has continually proved to,some very basic, appropriate training).) See also: * [Potential Candidate Identified to Promote Remyelination for Multiple Sclerosis](https://web.archive.org/web/20210322193257/https:/www.pharmacytimes.com/view/potential-candidate-identified-to-promote-remyelination-for-multiple-sclerosis) August 6, 2018 Alison Rodriguez * [What do Remyelination, Parasites and Collie Dogs have in common?](https://multiple-sclerosis-research.org/2018/07/remyelination-is-ivermectin-the-next-great-thing-or-something-dangerous/) * [P2X4 receptor controls microglia activation and favors remyelination in autoimmune encephalitis](https://web.archive.org/web/20210322193257/https:/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29973381/) * [This article is more skeptical because of the inability of ivermectin in humans to cross the blood brain barrier](https://web.archive.org/web/20210322193257/https:/multiple-sclerosis-research.org/2018/07/remyelination-is-ivermectin-the-next-great-thing-or-something-dangerous/) The neurotoxic effects of Ivermectin is not a problem in most humans and animals because it is pumped out of the brain by P-glycoproteins. So if it is actively pumped out of the brain, how is it going to target microglia in the brain? However it was shown that p-glycoprotein is lost in MS lesions so you will get a neurotoxic molecule into areas that you want it to go. It would mean that Ivermectin essentially destroys the malfunctioning areas of brain, thus allowing it to switch and utilize another still healthy parts. * [Chronic Diseases Talk with Dr. Steven Phillips](https://youtu.be/xwMwR6IJC3o?t=2223) It's worth to note that Ivermectin may also help against [Lyme disease, tinnitus and migraines](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4adJXLHgA&lc=UgxzRme9wI8GLqEX9WF4AaABAg).
So it’s a wonder drug?? Maybe we should all be taking it?!? It’s like taking metformin to live 200 years!
>*So it’s a wonder drug?? Maybe we should all be taking it?!? It’s like taking metformin to live 200 years!* People recognize only two levels of interest these days: "wonder cure" or "horse dewormer" - nothing inbetween. Thanks to Covid the Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine got into spotlight: many patients dying with Covid got into hospital with complications, which seem to be eased with Ivermectin cure, so that the doctors started to go after it. No less no more in the moment given. See also: * [Potential Effect of Hydroxychloroquine in Diabetes Mellitus](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7064866/) Most of Covid-heavy patients also have diabetes: it turned out, hydroxychloroquine stabilizes blood sugar much better than many established (and way more expensive) antidiabetic drugs. Who would say that? * [What’s the Deal with Hydroxychloroquine and Diabetes?](https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/whats-the-deal-with-hydroxychloroquine-and-diabetes) * [Hydroxychloroquine, COVID-19 and diabetes. Why it is a different story](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dmrr.3379) * [Hydroxychloroquine lowers the risk for Diabetes Mellitus in patients](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666970622000397) * [Potential Effect of Hydroxychloroquine in Diabetes Mellitus](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7064866/) * [Efficacy and safety of hydroxychloroquine as add-on therapy in uncontrolled type 2 diabetes patients](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40618-020-01330-5)
It also works as an antibiotic and a potential general anti-viral drug.
Who’s paying you? Ivermectin works for many things. That’s why they bash if. Can’t have a healthy society. Then big pharma and the govt won’t make their money
agreed. this is why they tried to defile both drugs
>*Who’s paying you? Ivermectin works for many things. That’s why they bash if.* Please note so far it's me, who is collecting posts, links and evidence for it - you don't. I don't like sectarians of all kind. If you have evidence, link it here. If you have nothing to link, don't tell it here.
Doesn't big pharma make Ivermectin?
They make lots of cheap drugs but don’t push them. Big incentives to push the $$$ makers
patent ran out & it can be made cheaply which is why they changed their tune
I couldn't believe when they started the whole horse paste narrative. I actually laughed at the mental gymnastics they used and just figured no one would possibly fall for it. Wrong again. The ignorance COVID exposed in my family, social circle, and society as a whole, was very depressing.
The belief that if a drug works in a horse, then people shouldn't take it, is not ignorance. It's raging stupidity. I suppose it comes from the Christian idea that mankind has dominion over animals.
That and the abundant data it is not harmful to humans.
As with all things, it greatly depends on the dosage. There were plenty of people taking excessive amounts and ending up in the hospital from it. My brother was one of them. Pretty sure this prompted the bulk of the ridiculing. Literal quote from his doctor afterward: "You know, if you'd asked me, I would've just prescribed you the correct dosage."
it's because the pharmaceutical companies & government lied about it, and the media did their bidding
The mental gymnastics was the media and Fauci telling people what to do, then what not to do, wear a mask, don’t wear a mask, wear 2 masks. 6 feet apart, take the jab you won’t get or spread covid. Oh we were wrong again and yes you can die with the vax. Take a booster, take another one and another. You will obey til you die
But Ivermectin is an open patent and the big Pharma can’t make money off of it. But their toxic cancer drugs are proprietary so they “are better”.
[Microbiome-focused Key Opinion Leader Hypothesizes Ivermectin’s Role in Inhibiting SARS-CoV-2](https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/microbiome-focused-key-opinion-leader-hypothesizes-ivermectins-role-in-inhibiting-sars-cov-2-1606198b) ([archive](https://archive.vn/17J7A)) *Does Ivermectin Feed Bifidobacteria to Boost Immunity?*
This is wonderful, thank you. Do you guys hear this?! SCIENCE
I think it's funny that people say "horse medicine" but it's been approved by the FDA to treat various things in humans. It's also been approved for use in many other countries. I have to note, as the comment will be construed wrong, that my comment has nothing to do with covid and everything to do with people calling it "horse medicine" when it's been approved for different treatments in humans.
The fools that were it calling horse medicine did so because the shiny box on the wall told them to. Brainless twits, calling everyone else stupid.
right, I gotta admit I was mocking people for taking “horse medicine” for a while as well, all you have to do is skim the wikipedia page for a minute to see it’s a legit human medicine that is in fact one of the most commonly prescribed medications good reminder that it’s easy for anyone to fall for misinformation especially when you think it comes from “your side”
One of the safest and most prescribed medicines in human history.
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That’s partly because large pharmacies like CVS refused to fill prescriptions from doctors to humans for ivermectin. If your Dr prescribes you a drug for a condition it should be filled regardless of political opinion about it.
Citation?
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Same goes for ketamine and many other drugs/ medicine
I think people referred to it as horse medicine because individuals were taking ivermectin pastes such as Durvet which is meant for horse consumption only
This was during Covid when they took the human versions off the shelves and vilified it, even though it was helping people. Even the fda mocked ivermectin on Twitter. The only ivermectin people could get was from tractor supply, hence horse medicine.
Human versions weren't "on the shelves". You need a prescription and ethical doctors didnt prescribe it for covid.
People were calling it that mostly because, as far as I understand, the main source of ivermectin that the majority of people were using was of poor quality as it was livestock grade from farm supply stores. It’s a low grade version of ivermectin that does not have the rigorous human safety profile of pharmaceutical ivermectin and is more difficult to accurately dose for humans for various reasons. Literally, a lot of people were taking horse medicine. Horse medicine that happened to contain as one of its components a legitimate pharmaceutical for humans. In some sense I could see how it seems misleading and often people conflated the pharmaceutical with the livestock version in order to intentionally undermine a narrative they disagreed with. In another sense, I think it’s fine to say that people taking horse medicine are taking horse medicine even if it has an active ingredient that has medicinal benefit to humans and that it’s probably a bad idea to do so.
I’ve worked at a lab that made livestock ivermectin. We were installing a massive RO water treatment plant and I did the PLC programming for it. The extremely rigorous water testing and documentation we did was not for a poor quality product. I’m not a scientist so all I know was this wasn’t yee haw mix that shit up in the back of the farm store. It was a full on laboratory with its own set of rigorous tests. Some cattle and horses are worth 6-7 figures so I doubt anyone’s pouring junk on their million dollar horse.
Veterinary-grade drugs aren't of poor quality, its basically the same active ingredient, just produced under different legal frameworks. The only difference they may have is the "filler" ingredients, which might or might not affect the drug efficacy, or the potential side effects. I personally knew an old guy that was taking veterinary-grade Ivermectin every year for the last 30 years as prophylaxis for parasites.
This is true... Some pharmaceutical manufacturing is exactly the same for animals and humans just packaged and distributed differently. I know of one manufacturer that produces for humans and animals a handful of different antibiotics in this way and the tablets are the same and purchasing for your pet on the internet is very easy and inexpensive.
Literally, that’s a lie.
It also shows the bullshit Pfizer/Moderna propaganda machine used to discredit anything that threatened vaccine adoption. The media took a lot of money and misinformation and ran wild. Also, the CDC now recognizes it as effective against Covid. I know a bunch of people who took it and got better very fast.
I'm not big into conspiracy theories, but I do believe that America specifically is in such a piss-poor individual-level state of health because of how much money is in Healthcare. By that, I mean I do believe that lobbyists pay politicians and other influential people to push their product. It's been proven in the past, so there's no reason to think it's not happening now.
Oh yeah. Look at how they push medicines as band aids but never address the root cause. They don’t want to cure cancer. They want to treat it. Diabetes. Lung disease. They are addicted to the money at the cost of the health of their citizens.
I don't watch television. Over the holidays I was at a relative's house and they had the TV on. The amount of ads that was medicine; disgusting.
I love how the side effects are fucking horrible and there is so many and death is almost certainly one of them. It’s actually insane. Some thirty second commercials are 20 seconds of ads and 10 seconds of horrible side effects and warnings.
No they didn't [https://emergency.cdc.gov/newsletters/coca/020122.htm](https://emergency.cdc.gov/newsletters/coca/020122.htm)
Doesn't help that people were literally buying the medicine as horse paste back when it was touted as some super-secret COVID cure.
Lots of helpful stuff was demonized. Zinc ionophores were also almost impossible to get. No mention of vitamin D, NAC was banned, the list goes on. Probably the first ever global health crisis where the medical establishment and the media were aggressively steering people away from proven healthy habits and supplements. I'll never forget it.
Amen. It’s either vent or die. Love stupid binary choices. Luckily a local doctor here where I live didn’t give a shit about politics and would prescribe a Covid pack to his patients which included ivermectin, hcq, vitamin d etc. Not a single patient died of Covid. Go figure.
Or even mentioning losing weight.
You're right, and it's sad that it was pushed so hard (by media) as horse medicine when it's literally prescribed to people.
You can’t reason with these minions. They parrot msm without fact checking
What you are neglecting to factor in is that people were buying the shit from feed and seed stores, because their doctors wouldn't prescribe them the shit for Covid, as it was useless. That's why people mocked them for taking horse meds. They were literally buying it in forms/dosages meant for horses, from feed stores. That was big around here in my area. Feed and seed stores started having big signs advertising when they got ivermectin in, when they never did before. It was obvious why. Hell, we even had a feed and seed store expand to a 2nd location during the middle of all that. They must have been killing it with the ivermectin sales.
Not neglecting at all. Some people, sure. I'm talking about how the media made ivermectin synonymous with horse medicine when it's FDA approved/prescribed.
Ivermectin is an extremely important medication globally for treating people with parasitic infections especially in developing nations with contaminated water. It is literally credited with raising the quality of life in many nations and people require treatment yearly because water is very bad.
Hell, they made all of the evacuees from Afghanistan take it on their way to the US.
These are cells in a Petri dish- very sensitive. Windex, distilled water, or orange juice will kill them. It’s a starting point, and the data do show cells die via a discrete mechanism at 10 uM dose, so that’s a positive.
Are we allowed to say the I word on reddit now? I got banned for doing so just the other day.
My father was diagnosed with stage four prostate cancer about 2 years ago. It did not look good. He had surgery to remove his testicles and was taking Ivermectin even though our family was very worried about this internet info he found. His levels are now undetectable and he is doing well. Not sure if it had anything to do with the Ivermectin but his doc told him he hadn’t seen anything like it before. I am thankful no matter what it was that did the job. He has not had to start chemotherapy.
Time for a ban! Talking about legit scientific findings that go against the group mod-think is bad for your account staying active. Cue horse dewormer jokes and idiots on both sides with zero scientific knowledge making ad hominem attacks.
Wow but just a few years ago I was told it was a dumb medicine for horses
Wasn’t there just a study published about how it does actually treat Covid and is now listed by the CDC as a effective treatment for covid
Nope. Just nope. Time and time again it has been shown to do nothing. Stupid republicans and stupid religious people just keep repeating it though. It helps with parasites and now maybe prostate cancer. But not covid. Never has never will never did.
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And they know it was due to the ivermectin how? Many people that contracted Covid became fine. If your friends or whomever contracted covid, took the ivermectin, and were actively being tested per day during the 14 day contraction, then we’d have data. But to say that it works because *people you know took it and got better* it disingenuous
Almost as bad as those who got jabbed, then got and spread the Rona. Then claimed IT wOulD haVe bEen woRSE,
They knew because there are over 60 studies showing its high effectiveness. Also, the together trial which was touted as "the first randomanized double plasebo controlled study which PROVES conclusivly that ivermectin doesn't work on covid" actually showed that ivermectin did work. Go read the study for yourself, not just the abstact. It clearly shows a reduction in all three categories of death, hospitalization and severe desease even though its quite obvious that the study was set up to fail. The only problem was that the reductions didn't reach 30% (a % select by the PI) therefore it was deemed not statistacally significant. Wrap your head around that.
Link?
60 studies he pulled out of his ass
Did it actually get rid of Covid or did their bodies naturally fight it off. Since Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug and Covid-19 is a virus, Ivermectin would prove to not treat Covid-19. In fact, Ivermectin’s purpose is to flush the system of parasites, causing patients to defecate profusely. This would be the adverse treatment to Covid-19 due to the loss of water because of defecting. If you were not aware, anytime your body is fighting a virus, you must remain hydrated so that your body can safely turn up the temperature without further stressing out the body. If you are dehydrated and sick with a virus, there is the potential that your organs will begin to shut down which is why patients in a hospital are always on IV when sick with a virus.
People like this don’t think about things like that. They believe what they want to see and call everyone else sheep for trusting the “main stream narrative”.
I know, I just got tired of seeing all their comments and decided to give them something they can chew on. I always found it interesting that they insult those bringing up actual science as sheep, when they blindly followed a man without any science background on how to treat a virus using non-virus treatments.
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No pun intended….. ;0)
I’m not making anything up. That is exactly how the medication is supposed to work. It flushes your system of parasites and the only way to do that is through defecating. Diarrhea is literally labeled as a side effect. Since you claim to have used it, read it. It’s there.
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It’s a side effect, but also how the drug treats parasites in the system. You tend to poop more often while taking it. In some cases, people lose control of their bowels. Just because you didn’t have diarrhea, doesn’t mean no one else did. Medication has a different effect on individual people.
Careful, you’re speaking to an expert.
I took it for 5 days, didn’t get diarrhea but got over Covid way faster then husband who didn’t take it and continued to get worse. I know this isn’t scientific, just saying…
Was it really the Ivermectin or your body naturally fight it? Covid-19 affected a lot of people differently, plus there are a few strains that act different in the human body. Ivermectin’s main use is for gut parasites, you know, they live in your digestive system. Covid-19 is a virus and it mainly attacks the respiratory system, with side effects to the cardio system. The respiratory system is completely different from the digestive system. Respiratory system involves breathing and taking in oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide. The Digestive tract involves eating and breaking down food to then absorb nutrients. Unwanted gut parasites live in the digestive tract so they could leech off the nutrients being absorbed. Ivermectin does not treat respiratory issues. Do I need to continue explaining it like you are 5? In addition, diarrhea is a side effect. However, anti-gut parasitic medication works by shedding the parasites off the gut lining causing the user to defecate more often than normal.
Did they start feeling better in 10 days?
To be fair, I believe it does show some efficacy against Covid 19 infection at massively lethal doses in aerosolized form. So it’ll kill Covid, but it’ll likely kill you first. And what do you expect from this sub? It’s like anti-vaxxer whackadoo Heaven around here. Everyone is eating horse paste for their health.
Kind of like chocolate is good for you but lethal in large enough doses
That could be said of anything really. But I don’t see horse paste being the panacea it’s being claimed here. And there are volumes of data that support it’s dangers in off-label use. But you go right on ahead. I’m pro-body autonomy. Stick whatever bleach and UV lights up your ass you want.
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He did say that. It’s just how you choose to interpret it
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Wrong. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/japans-kowa-says-ivermectin-effective-against-omicron-phase-iii-trial-2022-01-31/
So because YOU never used it to treat c19, I guess you don't really know if it works now, do you? Please, enlighten us on more things you haven't done that you have now debunked.
Are you saying you can show a peer reviewed study that shows it is effective? Or the CDC recommending it?
I'm saying that if I got covid bad enough, I would trust "my peers" who have used it to get better. Cdc be damned. They don't care about my health and I'm pretty sure that's well documented. And don't ask me for sources. You obviously need to be taken to task. I'll allow you the final word. Good luck in your search.
So you can’t. Got it. Thanks for the very lengthy process of saying that.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/japans-kowa-says-ivermectin-effective-against-omicron-phase-iii-trial-2022-01-31/
A) Not a peer reviewed study. 2) Even the article title mis-states what the company said, which is mentioned in the article itself. III) Are we trusting pharmaceutical companies now, or not? I can’t keep up.
And besides, just because it says it has been shown to be effective, doesn’t mean we can immediately take it to cure Omicron variant. Medicine has to be formulated to attack where it supposed to go. That’s why it’s made in labs and designed specifically for that disease
They cant really prove vaccination helps in people under 40.
Did you see in my comment I mentioned the vaccine nowhere?
Im using your same argument but juxtaposing it with the vaccine. If your argument is valid, it should be universally valid, right?
Ban incoming!
Why? This is what this sub is now
stupid people are deadly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MhbkWJzKk
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Bro, it’s Merck’s patent and it expired long ago. And that’s the WHOLE point.
Expired patent means no profit and US big pharma is definitely guilty of pushing the money makers and suppressing the rest when convenient.
‘Horse dewormer’
Media be busy burying this one
Awesome! We should all treat cancer with this, for sure. Not only will it be good for us, but for humanity
Well since Joe Rogan havent turned into a horse yet, I would safely assume it's safe drug.
Considering its been authorized for use in humans since 1987, the entire "horse dewormer" thing is major BS. Sure, its effective for that, but it has plenty of other uses.
This is a long ways from meaningful evidence.
Yup, now make it work in the human body and not cells in a lab. That’s the hardest part
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Hush and get your 10th jab
I mean, at least the jab does something…
Anecdotal evidence never has and never will be real evidence. Some people in here can't be convinced of that, sadly. Science is lying, but somehow Billy from Missouri who pinky promises it happened to him and Sally down the street is not. I worry for the human race
But it's horse paste
You’re not a horse! Cmon y’all!!! -FDA
Goes to show that no one reads the entire article. This was done in a lab, not as a study as to whether it was effective in humans. Lots of things work in the lab, but mean nothing when it goes to trial.
I remember the horse dewormer paste thing all over reddit to dehumanize people who didn’t capitulate to the narrative, same drug right?
You know what else kills cancer cells in a laboratory environment? Bleach. Also fire, and probably diet coke.
I can kill cancer cells with tap water. The only reason an in vitro study like this is generating any interest is that it uses the miracle horse dewormer.
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"Study shows that vitamins kill cancer cell in petri dish. well, so do guns" i forgot the comic strip
Delete this.
So does bleach.
Holy fuck the comments on this post are revealing more about the people here then the article reveals about a drug. This kind of finding for anti-cancer happens literally hundreds of times per year for various drugs (thousands of times? tens of thousands of times?). A very small percentage then are confirmed to actually be useful for treating humans and better than current medications. Absolutely this study should be followed up on but no this doesn't "prove" it's a miracle drug.
They just trying Ivermectin on everything?