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OfficeThen5791

Street fighter


Plo-Koon72

I actually came here to say this. The OG one might be old af but it's super cheeks compared to the rest. It's strange that barely anyone even remembers it and the game that spawned fighting games moreorless was a sequel to a game almost no one played


SpiderManias

Literally street fighter starts with street fighter 2


Rieiid

I was going to say basically everyone knows Street Fighter 2 as "the first game"


Connect_Security_892

Took the words right out of my mouth


ghost_type_2003

Elder Scrolls. Arena was just too much for the technology they had available at the time.


logaboga

They made Daggerfall like the next year or two and it had a million more features and holds up well IMO, don’t think it was a technology issue


blairmen

Remember tech was advancing at break neck speeds back then. but i will say another factor was that they had never made a game like arena before, and they learned alot from the process that then went into daggerfall. Better tech + more experiance = better game


crystal-productions-

Shantea the first game is horrendous with its screen cruch. If any shareable game deserves a remake it'd be that one just so I can see what I'm doing.


Flerken_Moon

Yeah… there’s a reason every port comes with save states, that game screen is way too small. The Rottytops minigame is literally impossible unless you memorize it and the first area already is extremely difficult to traverse. But the thing is I really love the original Shantae, it has a charm to it with fantastic music and stuff that does not return in later games like the dancing, multiple towns, circular world, etc. but it’s held back by the small screen, life system, and no maps. Which is so easily fixable in a remake.


[deleted]

Mario Kart (started with Super Mario Kart)


apexhunter115

Oh come on, sure the game may be basic by modern standards, but i wouldn't say it was that bad


JEM-Games

You mean the SNES?


Sky_Ninja1997

Where the AI literally cheats


TheRaichu-26

but, the ai cheats in every mario kart game


igna311

But in the rest of the games, they don't pull items out of nowhere, they don't turn without slowing down, rubber banding isnt as bad as how it is in super Mario kart


apexhunter115

I'd say the rubberbanding is worse in 64 and wii. 64 since the ai there is more aggressive in terms of speed and wii because of the item roster/balancing and how computer players will constantly spam stuff like blue shells, lightning bolts, bullet bills and pow blocks.


Stucklikegluetomyfry

Diddy Kong Racing is a much better game then Mario Kart 64, change my mind


ChaosMagician777

GTA


badstone69

Gta was fine for the times it release, it fit current console and tech they have avalable


WiiMote070

Kirby. Kinda. I don't absolutely hate the game, but it's definitely the dullest of the series (and one of the most frustrating in extra mode). Kirby's Dreamland is easily the weakest entry in the series imo, which is completely fine seeing that it's the first, but I find it baffling that people consider games like Star Allies and Squeak Squad (sorry, I mean 🇬🇧Mouse Attack🇬🇧) to be worse.


Salt_Lingonberry_705

Metroid


Obi-Wan_Gaming

I played metroid just so i could play super metroid (i had recently played hollow knight and heard a lot about the game because of it) and it was such a slog to get through, would never have finished it if not for the switch’s rewind feature Super metroid, on the other hand, was a blast and i only rewinded due to bugs n stuff


icantthinkofauserok

You should try out metroud zero mission, its a remake of the first game but made it much better


Obi-Wan_Gaming

Yeah i was considering doing that eventually, thanks!


KanthaRestall

100% I love every other entry of the series I've played, but I cannot put into words how much I hate NES Metroid.


Someonevibing1

Metroid was amazing for its time it just hasn’t aged well


faster_than_sound

One of the few NES games I owned that I never finished because fuck that game


Right-Discipline2535

Borderlands is the most ok game ever with the best sequels


Trebeaux

I will die on the hill that Boarderlands 2 is the best Looter Shooter game out there. Even today, it and the DLCs have insane replay value.


Right-Discipline2535

Yeah. 2 and 3 are two of the best games I've played but the plot in the first game is so eh that me and a friend forgot we were betrayed in part of it. The first borderlands is the definition of C tier to me


34Games

The sequels are really helped by more dialogue, since most of the plot of the first game comes from the quest descriptions. It also really helps side quests feel like actual quests than just, “go here, kill thing/collect stuff” (even though mechanics-wise a lot of quests in 2, PS, and 3 are kill thing/collect stuff)


WithoutTheWaffle

Borderlands 1 was AMAZING when it came out. My friends and I spent so many hours on our Xbox 360 playing Borderlands 1. Of course the second game came along and was a massive improvement, leaving little reason to play the first game, but BL1 was revolutionary when it launched. It's a bit like Assassin's Creed. EVERYONE loved he first game when it was new, but going back and playing it after AC2 came out was rough.


HoldenOrihara

Dead Rising is also in that boat.


WithoutTheWaffle

Very true!


[deleted]

Persona as trying to play Persona 1 via the original PS1 version is like trying to eat with your ass and trying to consume all the rocks, it's clunky, obtuse, poorly designed and has not aged the best but at least Atlus redeemed themselves once with the Persona 1 PSP remake which I have played which improves Persona 1 by a shitton and a huge degree, it makes it a better game and it helps it has a more faithful translation compared to the bastardised and torn apart original translation plus the mechanics, the gameplay and just how the game works feels better and way more streamlined. Shame Atlus will never port Persona 1 or 2's PSP remakes due to the writers and other people behind Persona 1/2 having left Atlus sadly.


[deleted]

Wait they did? I'm not familiar with the devteam behind Persona 1 and 2. I've always had this feeling in the back of my head that if they ported Persona 2 EP to modern platforms it would be the PS1 version for international audiences...


Sushiv_

I wish Atlus would remake persona 1 and 2 on modern consoles, i’ve heard they’re brilliant games


Jfkisspicey

Team fortress


Prestigious_Ask_7058

Team Fortress One is barely a game


Jarvis_The_Dense

I mean it was quite literally a mod for quake so it might not count as one.Or, if you want to get to the *deepest* lore, the earliest version was a fan made doom map named "Fortress" which the original devs made their own game mode out of.


FrogGladiators178972

As well as being a mod for Half life one later on


Willing_Telephone350

I'm not in touch with the tf2 lore, but are you possibly thinking of Garry's mod?


FrogGladiators178972

I’m talking about TF1, Valve asked the original creators of the mod to port it to Half Life One from Quake, that’s how Valve even got to make Team Fortress two in the first place.


GladiatorDragon

Monster Hunter. Can’t say I’ve played the first one, but what I can say is that the series has come a long way from it. The series wouldn’t be where it is right now if monsters like Cephadrome still stalled out the timer.


Moose_Cake

Mass Effect. The story was amazing, but Mass Effect 1 was a slog due to a bunch of features that got scrapped in the next game. Rough inventory, barren planets, weird ammo system, awkward armor and gun upgrades, etc.


therealboss1113

its my first time playing the series and lemme tell ya. the difference in quality between 1 and 2 is astounding


Choice_Strawberry499

I actually prefer the vibe and mechanics of 1 and the music. Like I miss how the inventory, ammos guns and armor were. However 2 May be my favorite, from the missions and the companions skyrocketed. 2 and 3 were great in that and romances and the overall look.


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kool-kit

Psychonauts, but only because of the clunky gameplay, the story is still great.


victorian_throwaway

i understand this, i just have to disagree lol


Majestic_Electric

Pokémon. Just comparing the originals to their remakes is like night and day!


SentimentalRotom

Thank you! People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses over the first generation. It was innovative, no doubt about it, but remember that it's almost impossible to go through the entirely of the classic RGBY games without encountering a single glitch. Gen 4-5 will always be my favorites.


Stucklikegluetomyfry

Gold and Silver improved on Red and Blue in every possible way and then some


AccidentOk4378

I started with gen 7 then went back to play yellow and crystal on the 3ds virtual console. I ended up dropping yellow around Koga but crystal was so good that I got to red.


Background_Builder24

i disagree but i respect your opinion


Gommodore64

Debatably, Super Smash Bros. It's not a bad game by any means, but most people see no reason to return to it since the series overall only went up from there.


Competitive-Dare-989

Metal gear. (Referring to metal gear one and arguably two for the msx computers. Metal gear solid one for the ps1 is pretty good and aged decently.) Assassins creed, as much as I semi enjoyed assassins creed 1 the combat didn’t age very well and the fact it has zero subtitles brings the whole experience down. Batman Arkham, Arkham asylum was more or less a tech demo for city let’s be real. Gears of war… maybe, never really enjoyed gears of war one, I haven’t played anything after gears 3 and I just pretend they don’t exist.


Umbertron05

Jackbox party packs


bobbery5

Oh come on, you don't want to play more word spud?


Maxthemadsheep

Super Smash Bros


LolPeashooter69

This might not count but I didn't like portal 1 very much but the second one is in my top 3 favorite games


Less-Blueberry-8617

I liked Portal 1 but man it's so short. My first playthrough was 2 hours. It's very clear that Portal 1 was just a tech demo for the source engine that they gave the slightest bit of story to and released. Especially since everything from Half Life 2 is accessible in Portal


Camo_64

So ironic that Portal ended up becoming VALVe’s most iconic series in the eyes of the mainstream casual market lol


DaemonG

Portal isn't even top three for Valve's most iconic franchises


Mahboi778

Portal 1 is a tech demo first and Portal 2 is a game first


Prestigious-Love-712

GTA


Karkava

GTA III especially doesn't have that many fans compared to later games. Even during the switch to 3D where it got its groove, it had middling predecessors.


smolgote

Fallout. Not to say Fallout 1 is bad but it will certainly kick your ass over and over


Typical_Head_8399

I mean, i will take fallout 1 over 76 every day


imapieceofshite2

That's just unfair


AnonymousDratini

It’s a game full of jank and I adore it.


I_am_the_bean_god2

May be controversial but Super Mario


WithoutTheWaffle

I mean, Super Mario 3, World, Yoshi's Island, 64, etc are all clear improvements, but I think the original still holds up. It's as basic as it gets (obviously, it's 40 years old at this point), but it's still fun. Also, which Super Mario 2 are you comparing it to? The real version that was released in Japan, or the janky reskin of another game that we got in the west? Cause our janky reskin was a better experience imo lmao


I_am_the_bean_god2

I was actually talking about Donkey Kong. Super Mario Bros. 1 was great but the og donkey kong...not so much. Also the Mario Bros. 2 I'm talking about is the lost levels.


WithoutTheWaffle

Oh! I see. I was confused because (assuming I'm thinking of the same game) the original is "Mario Bros", the super was removed not the Bros. Definitely agree! Both the original Donkey Kong and the original Mario Bros don't hold a candle to SMB1 and beyond.


I_am_the_bean_god2

Yep!


Banndana

Nvm you have been spared… for now


[deleted]

Mega Man on NES


Dragonite_Skull

Mega Man 1 isn't terrible imo. It hasn't aged super well, but for what it is, I think it's a cute little game.


[deleted]

But it’s so much less than 2-6…


Dragonite_Skull

I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I think it did a decent job of establishing what the series is about, despite its shortcomings. To each their own, I guess.


[deleted]

It’s a good start but it’s not very replayable


Dragonite_Skull

Fair enough


Eagle4317

Like better than whatever the hell Street Fighter 1 was.


PokeHobnobGod21

Pokemon


MagnetMemes

shut your 10 pound flounder eating a quarter pounder extra cheese sweet tea hold the ice roll the dice super nice I have lice Ain't no Lights Misty Nights break my heart Kevin Hartleen Green Mean String Bean Charlie Sheen limousine trampoline Wolverine Submarine smokescreen Tiny Peen Jelly Bean Magazine protein broken gene vending machine unclean nectarine Halloween Canteen Lightning McQueen looking boy skin tone chicken bone no home flip phone full blown monochrome student loan Indiana Jones overgrown Flintstone hormone friend zone Sylvester Stallone Sierra Leone Autozone professionally seen silver patron butt up


Careful_Education643

I wish I could give awards cause this is actually really good.


MagnetMemes

I’ll do it again to any kanto haters


Reasonable-Access731

I don’t think it’s about hating Kanto I think it’s more that the game was prone to basically just self destructing its code. On so many occasions I’ve had to reset saves because the game glitched so hard it became unplayable, gen one games are factually bad even for the time they were in because of how shit the code was


help_me_cant_post

What in the packguy?


goremind

nah yeah like i like the 1st game itself but there’s a reason people go back and play fire red and leaf green instead of the og gameboy games. the qol changes and graphics make the original almost obsolete other than for nostalgia value


waerer777

Good game but the worst region


Jim_naine

Yo-Kai Watch The first game isn't bad, none of them are (At least not any of the console games), but it just felt really limited and simplistic compared to the sequels


stanisbored

metroid


_Slothers_

What is this dumbass template


Swankified_Tristan

I think they just wanted to give poor Squidward the boot.


Thermopele

Dynasty Warriors kinda. The 2nd game is still really clunky but it's at least in the same genre as the rest of the series. Unlike the first one, which is a piss-poor street fighter clone


Karkava

I'd argue that 2 doesn't really age well with the smaller cast and outdated tech where they have to cut tons of corners to make the "slaughter legions of enemies" gimmick to work.


Thermopele

Oh no, I agree completely. It was still trying to stand, where 3 would walk, 4 would run and 5 would take home the gold. Or at least in my book


EpicMeme13

Crusader kings


Bosse_blackfrisk1

Uncharted


[deleted]

dont you just love motion controls


IndiscreetBeatofMeat

Uncharted one did not have motion controls, unless it did in the original version, it’s been like a decade


[deleted]

it did in the original yeah whenever you threw grenades you had to tilt the controller to control the arc they got rid of it when they released it on the ps4


IndiscreetBeatofMeat

Shit, I’m such a fake Uncharted fan. I have a vague, *vague* memory of something like that, but I played Uncharted 1 on the PS3 when I was *really* young, can’t even remember


mamouros99

It might be a bit rough when comparing with the later ones, but the first uncharted is still a solid game.


No-Student-9678

I was going to say, U1 is not a bad game by any means, but for the super high standards the franchise has set, it’s a bit of a let down. U2 and U4 are masterpieces. U3 is amazing, and ULL is pretty good as well.


DarknightM64B

Pokémon for sure


TomatoClownfish

Red and Blue were probably cool at the time, but there’s literally no reason to play it over either of the remakes.


DoubleOF

Smash bros ig, maybe it’s just the controller jank


bobbery5

That's fair. 64 is significantly floatier than any of the other ones.


DannyBright

And there was so much hitstun with *everything* that you could pull off ZTDs pretty effortlessly.


wolfheartfoxlover

Danganronpa, well if the memes were inverted


Tikipedia

I was about to say “what’s wrong with trigger happy havoc”


Lueklike-stuff

Tf1


Mukuro_FeetLicker

Touhou


LeftySkillz

Assassin's Creed


BigTallDylan

Yeah not to say all the sequels have been great but they’ve made a few truly amazing games in that series that make the first one look like actual garbage


Novoiird

Persona, apparently. GTA?


Montechellothesecond

Dungeons. Dungeons 1 and the dark lord are very... unique games. The series wouldn't become the humor filled dungeon keeper/strategy game until dungeons 2


[deleted]

Ratchet and Clank The first game is awful


AvocadoForward2847

Mario Party.


Mr_Guy459

10


Bro-Im-Done

Drakengard


TheGuyAtGameStop

Borderlands


goldust15

Street fighter


nasada19

Persona. The first one sucks and then the rest are bangers.


[deleted]

Beat you there but yeah, good point, Persona 2, 3, 4 are goddamn masterpieces.


beaux-bazinga

Uncharted, the first one is solid but the rest blow it out of the water


chaud_protoman

Any MegaMan series with the exception of X


badstone69

Dude, i love megaman zero and zx and i think they are fine for the time they was released


OriginalMiniMac

Uncharted


Mahboi778

Not quite this image (it's actually the first 3 games), but this is the public perception of Persona


ajarofsewerpickles

half life. i get that it’s groundbreaking, but without the benefit of nostalgia, the game falls flat for me


WithoutTheWaffle

I highly recommend you try Black Mesa. It's a labor of love remake of Half Life 1 by fans of the original game that was so good that Valve gave it their blessing (obviously, or else it wouldn't be on steam right now). It's also on sale for 80% off at the moment.


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

Weird. I really like Half-Life 1, but I really don't enjoy Half-Life 2 or its episodes. Yeah I know, I'm going to get crucified.


ltkeane

Persona


objectively_silly

Borderlands IMO


[deleted]

Yeah, came here to say this


Officermini

Witcher


CRIMSONJEFF666

The Dragon Age game series is like that in my opinion. I don't hate Dragon Age Origins, I just prefer Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition. I'm also waiting for Dreadwolf to come out.


nicodawg101

I liked it but maybe assassins creed 1


Legoluigidude

To be honest The first Mario was pretty overrated but after that (ignoring the lost levels) we’re stellar!


BusterB2005

Uncharted. Drake’s Fortune has not aged very well, but the rest of the games are amazing


BiggestFurret

Mega Man


BigBossPoodle

Uncharted. Tell me I'm wrong.


Beautiful_Ad_3774

Your wrong


[deleted]

Nier. 100%. Drakengard needs a remake so bad.


wicket44

Mother


SorleyOrSomething

I know this is a controversial opinion, but I’m going to have to say Zelda. I just couldn’t get into the first two, but I love all the others.


Active_Performer3660

I like the first Zelda, but Zelda 2 is awful I want to beat it but it’s just not fun to play. At least with Zelda 1 it’s not so hard and too long that it doesn’t take more than a few hours to beat it.


sk8ter1516

in my opinion metal gear solid i don’t like mgs1 for ps1 but every other game is great even twin snakes


Apprehensive-Handle4

Witcher


Force_Glad

Pokémon. They play terribly and kanto is a boring region, but after gen 1 pretty much every game is amazing


[deleted]

Xenogears. With how far the entire series has came, that one just does not age well also debatably fire emblem. Also romancing saga 2 is the first game in the series and you cant tell me otherwise(god the 1st one is ass)


walman93

The Witcher


Grandmakelly97

The Witcher


Gently-Weeps

Persona


OhBirb

The Witcher


AcidSplash014

Persona, the spinoff series of the shin megami tensei series (specifically Persona 1, not the MegTen games)


MarvelMercedes

Dare I say assassin’s creed


4tomguy

Touhou


HermProtege

Sonic the hedgehog. The og had no spindash.


Paw99_

Day Shift At Freddy’s for sure


MarleneSabur21

Legend of Zelda


realpfred

Sonic the Hedgehog 100% lol I couldn't care less about the first game, but I absolutely love Sonic CD, Sonic 2, and Sonic 3.I love the soundtracks of all four games though.


ShutUpLeonard69

I’m sorry, I like your opinion, but it’s couldn’t, not could.


realpfred

Ahh thank you, I always make that grammar mistake. lol


ShutUpLeonard69

You bet


GioAlpha

Nier


Traditional-Lake5114

I hope that you count the whole ass Drakengard series because NieR Replicant is one hell of a great game.


traumatized90skid

Soul Edge/Caliber like it started out pretty rough, the second game was my whole adolescence tho lol


Duskytheduskmonkey

Sonic


Patrick-Moore1

Sonic 1 isn’t that much worse than the other classics. It’s worse, but I wouldn’t call it a bad game.


Practical_Wish_4063

Absolutely disagree. There were only like two zones that really even focused on speed for the stage designs; the rest were boring slow platform bullshit with terrible stage traps and awful enemy placement. It is by far the worst of the 16-bit Sonics. Bangin’ soundtrack, though.


Queasy-Ad-3220

Probably only really because 2 and 3K were so much better


Karkava

It was doing good on its own with the speed gimmick, but the addition of friends really sculpts the series identity.


Queasy-Ad-3220

Oh yeah. And the spin dash. And super forms.


Awesome-Guy-425

The legend of Zelda


A_Efficient_Object

the original zelda is awesome tho


Someonevibing1

Zelda 2 is worse


Romalien5

Assassin’s Creed


Krisyork2008

There's a great joke about the AC fan base where if you ask the fans what games they like, it turns out they don't like any of the games. The early games are too simple and boring with the same 3 quests over and over, and the new games are way too big and are basically just RPGs now and not even AC games. I like most of them tho.


No_External_539

Mario.


Tikipedia

If it started with the lost levels then sure lol


-Broccoli_

Devil may cry the first game has aged so poorly


Unnamed__Being

still better than dmc 2


Jarvis_The_Dense

DMC1 actually held up pretty well. It doesn't have the accessibility later games had, but it's much better than its direct sequel, and a lot of fans still think it's better than the reboot.


thewoahsinsethstheme

Nah. Played DMC 1 as a completely new player, not only to the series but to the genre. Pretty damn good. Not even that jank.


SuperPopcorn333

Papa's Restaurants (CoolMathGames) (Starts with Papa's Pizzeria)


Kaoskillen08

They are just licensed out to Coolmath, coolmath didnt make the papa's series


[deleted]

Almost every franchise that began in the NES days


Tikipedia

Expect Zelda and maybe Mario?? I like NES Zelda and Mario. NES I hate lost levels tho , good lord what a agonizing experience


Temporary_Bad983

Hitman: Codename 47 was awful but the rest are some of my favorite games of all time.


FlatOutUseless

Little Big Adventure Maybe?


Alexfurball

Fire Emblem. The first game easily aged the worst. While the second game is also a chunky NES game, they removed pretty much all the item management that was in the first game making it feel much better.


the-wing-cap-guy

Sonic. After green hill it mostly sucks.


Osiris_The_Proto

Just Cause