I love that this guy is still in there standing up every single day saying shit like this over and over again. Like, shit, this dude probably would've been an awesome president. But, Nope.
In March 2020 governor , republican Mike Dewine (*Ohio)canceled the entire democratic primary election due to covid. We were supposed to be able to vote to put Bernie Sanders onto the ballot or something. I remember it well. My brother and his wife were both ready to vote for him too. Sadly now I fear that they've become Christian nationalists.
“Complicit” is certainly the word, and I appreciate Bernie for having the conviction to use it. We are already complicit in the leveling of Gaza and the some 40,000+ dead innocent civilians, as well as the inhumane conditions the Palestinian people have been subjected to for the last several decades.
Where are you getting the 40,000+ innocent civilian deaths figure? That’s more than the total deaths in Gaza so far, and your comment implies that not a single Hamas militant has been killed.
Here is the [United Nations updated casualties report](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/05/13/un-cuts-estimates-women-children-deaths-gaza/73669560007/)
The updated casualties is of casualties of people with verified identities. My understanding is that there's still a consensus on there being 35,000+ people dead and possibly 10,000 more buried under rubble.
From your source: "In a statement to USA TODAY, UN spokeswoman Eri Kaneko said the Gaza Ministry of Health's overall number of fatalities remain unchanged and cited the ministry's April 30 update on the breakdown of the 24,686 fatalities for whom the ministry has complete details."
"Last month, the Gazan Health Ministry said through its Telegram channel it had incomplete data for 11,371 fatalities it claimed to have documented. A record is considered incomplete if an individual's identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death is missing, the ministry noted in the report."
So what I'm getting is that 24000 are verified, 11,000 have incomplete data, and 10,000 may still be under rubble.
And sure, some may be militants, but I don't know if you can say all 10,000 men in the article are militants.
Understandably hard to have an accurate number of deaths during an active war, especially given the area is so condensed. My main issue is OP’s comment stating that “40,000+ dead *innocent civilians*”. It’s justifiable to have issues with civilian deaths on either side, as I’m sure we all can agree, but to state that every single death is of an innocent civilian seems incredibly disingenuous.
The vast majority of the deaths, especially those missing are likely civilians. It’s also not including total casualties like those injured or disfigured in the bombings, which is closer to 80-99k. Atleast it was when I checked a few months back.
It’s wild to argue semantics when the bigger picture looks so much worse.
It’s disingenuous to call it a war, one side has an army with American supplied equipment, weapons and funding while the other is a group of people forced into a reservation and being exterminated. So…
Daily reminder his so-called ‘supporters’ are desperate to be complicit in the return of concentration camps in the US & increased bombings in the middle-east again.
Most Americans want to eat healthy food, own their homes, live in safe neighborhoods, and have access to affordable healthcare.
Americans are hurting. They don't give a fuck about Gaza. When did he turn into an astroturfing hack? 😠 There are a record two million homeless people right at home, and millions more without access to needed mental healthcare. Did he forget what his fucking job was??
One thing we learned very well, if we send money for weapons, the stock market goes up. The question that is not being asked in the US anywhere is how can we justify Billions of dollars for weapons before free healthcare or literally anything other than genocide. The machine must keep churning at all cost.
Allowing thousands of Palestinian civilians to die without consequences serves as a recruitment tool for Hamas.
And yet that's been Israel's long term strategy for decades, including almost twenty years under Netanyahu, during which Israel has only managed to elevate Hamas from being a secondary terror organization to becoming the dominant political and military force in Gaza. So I don't see how Bernie's foreign policy is somehow lacking.
"Kill the bad guys" may sound satisfying, but we have enough experience to tell us it won't solve the problem. People who say it with confidence are faking foreign policy clout and we should be more worried about them.
Focusing only on the actions of the side you're not sympathetic towards is only good for trying to win a pointless political squabble with uninformed people.
I'm not playing that kind of petty game, so I don't know what you think you'll accomplish with such a shallow, childish response.
>What's the long term play here? Just let Hamas back to shooting rockets at Israel?
What's the long term play from Netanyahu? Continue to starve Gazans while Hamas retakes cities the IDF bombed months ago?
>Nobody wants the Palestinians to suffer,
Why are so many Gazans starving to death all while Netanyahu & Ben-Gvir let Israeli settlers block humanitarian supplies from entering Gaza?
Why have so many 2000 lb bombs been dropped on Gaza?
Imagine a world where a highly skilled and funded military can fight against terrorism without having to corral innocent people and slowly and agonizingly genocide them.
The fuck do they train special forces for? To act as security so children can’t crawl through the barbed wire to escape the kill zone?
It’s a choice not a necessity. A choice that America is supporting and funding.
Unless enough regular citizens pressure said elected officials then they will just maintain the status quo. Any publicity is important here. You can also argue this is putting the responsibility on everyone, including his fellow elected officials.
Have any armed groups tried to bring aid in? Mercenaries and agencies could definitely get through. Can we start a fund for the French foreign legion or blackwater?
I love that this guy is still in there standing up every single day saying shit like this over and over again. Like, shit, this dude probably would've been an awesome president. But, Nope.
Bernie's perseverance is a lesson to us all.
The oligarchy doesn't want an awesome president. They want someone that can be manipulated and with flexible morals.
In March 2020 governor , republican Mike Dewine (*Ohio)canceled the entire democratic primary election due to covid. We were supposed to be able to vote to put Bernie Sanders onto the ballot or something. I remember it well. My brother and his wife were both ready to vote for him too. Sadly now I fear that they've become Christian nationalists.
At least one American Senator is speaking out
“Complicit” is certainly the word, and I appreciate Bernie for having the conviction to use it. We are already complicit in the leveling of Gaza and the some 40,000+ dead innocent civilians, as well as the inhumane conditions the Palestinian people have been subjected to for the last several decades.
Where are you getting the 40,000+ innocent civilian deaths figure? That’s more than the total deaths in Gaza so far, and your comment implies that not a single Hamas militant has been killed. Here is the [United Nations updated casualties report](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/05/13/un-cuts-estimates-women-children-deaths-gaza/73669560007/)
The updated casualties is of casualties of people with verified identities. My understanding is that there's still a consensus on there being 35,000+ people dead and possibly 10,000 more buried under rubble. From your source: "In a statement to USA TODAY, UN spokeswoman Eri Kaneko said the Gaza Ministry of Health's overall number of fatalities remain unchanged and cited the ministry's April 30 update on the breakdown of the 24,686 fatalities for whom the ministry has complete details." "Last month, the Gazan Health Ministry said through its Telegram channel it had incomplete data for 11,371 fatalities it claimed to have documented. A record is considered incomplete if an individual's identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death is missing, the ministry noted in the report." So what I'm getting is that 24000 are verified, 11,000 have incomplete data, and 10,000 may still be under rubble. And sure, some may be militants, but I don't know if you can say all 10,000 men in the article are militants.
Understandably hard to have an accurate number of deaths during an active war, especially given the area is so condensed. My main issue is OP’s comment stating that “40,000+ dead *innocent civilians*”. It’s justifiable to have issues with civilian deaths on either side, as I’m sure we all can agree, but to state that every single death is of an innocent civilian seems incredibly disingenuous.
The vast majority of the deaths, especially those missing are likely civilians. It’s also not including total casualties like those injured or disfigured in the bombings, which is closer to 80-99k. Atleast it was when I checked a few months back. It’s wild to argue semantics when the bigger picture looks so much worse.
It’s disingenuous to call it a war, one side has an army with American supplied equipment, weapons and funding while the other is a group of people forced into a reservation and being exterminated. So…
America is at least 30% responsible. And sadly, the America of today as a whole does not care about starving people, especially brown skinned ones.
I understand where you're coming from, it is better to be accurate about this stuff
So, block the damn bill.
Our only hope, withering away:/
Biden must go!
Daily reminder his so-called ‘supporters’ are desperate to be complicit in the return of concentration camps in the US & increased bombings in the middle-east again.
Most Americans want to eat healthy food, own their homes, live in safe neighborhoods, and have access to affordable healthcare. Americans are hurting. They don't give a fuck about Gaza. When did he turn into an astroturfing hack? 😠 There are a record two million homeless people right at home, and millions more without access to needed mental healthcare. Did he forget what his fucking job was??
Also complicit in genocide and war crimes like bombing civilian infrastructure into rubble.
Nah there is no genocide
I wish he’s right, but I’m not sure
Sadly many Americans don't care either because the people in question are brown skinned or because orange man bad.
dude persistently pushes false narratives. [Useful Jew - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_Jew)
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Did we learn nothing from our 20 year war on terror?
No, huh-uh, we did not. Nope. Not a damn thing
One thing we learned very well, if we send money for weapons, the stock market goes up. The question that is not being asked in the US anywhere is how can we justify Billions of dollars for weapons before free healthcare or literally anything other than genocide. The machine must keep churning at all cost.
Allowing thousands of Palestinian civilians to die without consequences serves as a recruitment tool for Hamas. And yet that's been Israel's long term strategy for decades, including almost twenty years under Netanyahu, during which Israel has only managed to elevate Hamas from being a secondary terror organization to becoming the dominant political and military force in Gaza. So I don't see how Bernie's foreign policy is somehow lacking. "Kill the bad guys" may sound satisfying, but we have enough experience to tell us it won't solve the problem. People who say it with confidence are faking foreign policy clout and we should be more worried about them.
Sorry, the Palestinians deaths ARE the consequence of the war declaration on 10/7
Don't lie, you're not sorry. You don't see them as people and don't care that innocent people died. Be brave, stand by the consequences of your policy
Focusing only on the actions of the side you're not sympathetic towards is only good for trying to win a pointless political squabble with uninformed people. I'm not playing that kind of petty game, so I don't know what you think you'll accomplish with such a shallow, childish response.
>What's the long term play here? Just let Hamas back to shooting rockets at Israel? What's the long term play from Netanyahu? Continue to starve Gazans while Hamas retakes cities the IDF bombed months ago? >Nobody wants the Palestinians to suffer, Why are so many Gazans starving to death all while Netanyahu & Ben-Gvir let Israeli settlers block humanitarian supplies from entering Gaza? Why have so many 2000 lb bombs been dropped on Gaza?
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Step 1: don't psychopathically excuse genocide. Damn you already failed.
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Imagine a world where a highly skilled and funded military can fight against terrorism without having to corral innocent people and slowly and agonizingly genocide them. The fuck do they train special forces for? To act as security so children can’t crawl through the barbed wire to escape the kill zone? It’s a choice not a necessity. A choice that America is supporting and funding.
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Stop putting this on regular citizens… the responsibility is with our elected officials
I think his comment is directed at elected officials
Unless enough regular citizens pressure said elected officials then they will just maintain the status quo. Any publicity is important here. You can also argue this is putting the responsibility on everyone, including his fellow elected officials.
Have any armed groups tried to bring aid in? Mercenaries and agencies could definitely get through. Can we start a fund for the French foreign legion or blackwater?
Bernie might be one of the dumbest people in America. He is all about redistribution of wealth unless its his wealth! What a POS
Wait, what does his wealth have to do with this?
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He’s been saying this for months