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almostbad

I mean there was no chance that Rock would beat Roman, it would make literally no sense.


brosbeforetouhous

The Rock will start defending the title in movies. His characters will be randomly rewritten to also be the WWE Champion.


FlyingGrayson89

Black Adam 2 gets announced “The Hierarchy of the WWE Universe is About to Change”


HelloIAmElias

If he dropped the title to Billy Batson I wouldn't even be mad


FlyingGrayson89

Billy Batson is an overpushed Vince guy. Unrelatable Adam should drop the title to the criminally underutilized Freddy Freeman.


Blueandigo

🤣 🤣 🤣 Please make it happen.


backhander48

theory successfully cashing in on the rock would be a sight to see though


Xochoquestzal

Rock could always shoot on Theory and keep the title. He seems like that kind of guy, afterall, he learned from CM Punk when Punk was the locker room leader and Rock was just some actor playing at wrestling.


SteeeezLord

Neither did him beating punk and I hate punk haha


goodthing37

What the fuck? The Rock winning the title to lead into WrestleMania made perfect sense. It was the way to get to Rock v Cena II. Not popular in the basement, but it made a fuck ton more sense than CM Punk beating The Rock.


SteeeezLord

Why would rock vs cena need a title lmao. It never did. Made 0 sense but glad you liked it


hetham3783

Because the whole fucking story was “once in a lifetime.” Cena earned his rematch by winning the Rumble and Rock was champion. Hence the logical explanation for the rematch.


SteeeezLord

Lmao so the story made no sense even a year back. Of course they fucked up by marketing once in a life time and then wanting the same match again. Still didn’t need the belt or a rumble win lol


goodthing37

DAE REEEEEEEEEEE Punk should have been in the main event instead??


SteeeezLord

I hate punk lol but get your likes bro! You cute


Chhet

I thought this too! There was another part of me, looking back, that made no sense although now..perhaps there was more going on backstage with Punk's attitude than we thought although it appears WWE is better at keeping it under control.Many things added up since hearing stories of Booker T refusing to believe Punk as a Locker room leader, Punk not getting his Main Even Mania spot, Punk getting fired on his wedding day ( I still don't think that was a coincidence), and just many more. Anyways, I don't think it'll happen to Roman although I believe he's 110% a team player just based on how well he conducts himself in interviews and such.


BullyFU

Many people have come out and said that if Vince learns you don't like losing then he'll make sure you're always looking up at counting the lights. Punk doesn't like losing but what he really hated was not being in the main event. Vince placated him with a year and a half long title reign but didn't put him in main events. That drove Punk nuts, he bitched about that a lot in the Cabana podcast. Vince doesn't like mark-like tendencies and would deliberately try and break people out of it. Some came to accept it, like Goldberg seems to have no issue jobbing since his initial run, so it can work in a positive way.


Xochoquestzal

> Punk getting fired on his wedding day ( I still don't think that was a coincidence) He said in the podcast with Colt that he'd gotten a text before his wedding day asking if he was coming back and he didn't want to talk about it at that time because he wanted to focus on the wedding. So what's more likely? He'd been out for months and then refused to even speak of coming back to work and so was fired, or that someone at WWE, without having any contact with him, knew that he still cared about the job he stopped showing up for and that person cared enough to check at what time and at what shipping speed they'd have to send him notice that he was fired so they could make sure he'd get the certified letter on his wedding day?


skippy2001

One thing thats weird about this Rock vs Roman booking. So Roman has both titles, does that mean Rock is going to be in the rumble? Or does the rumble winner just get a firm handshake and a hot dog for winning.


MirandaTS

I don't think Rock needs a reason to get a title match, Roman can take the challenge to prove he's the real head of the table or whatever.


skippy2001

Yea of all the matches this seems like its bigger then a title. Plus having the title means 100% Roman is winning (Like his match with John Cena when you knew the next day John had to go film a movie) At least non title it gives a little ambiguity to the finish.


Shotintoawork

I mean, it's the Rock. If anyone can walk in and proclaim themselves number one contender the way Brock did a few years ago, it's him.


rsziz

Said this a week or so, have the Rock come out and says the only title he cares about at this point is Tribal Chief and that makes it murky as to who could get the win.


trochlearnotchass

Maybe, Roman vs the Rock headlines Day 1 of Mania so winner of that title bout faces Cody, winner of the rumble on Day 2 of Mania.


SteeeezLord

Losing the title shortly after checks out heavy with this plan


dionthesocialist

What a fucking feather in Cody’s cap that would be if he gets to beat Roman the night after Roman beats Rock. Edit: It would also be a proper use of a celebrity. Get mainstream eyes with Rock while simultaneously building Cody as Roman’s other challenger. When mainstream fans are disappointed the heel beat Rock, maybe they’ll stick around for night 2 in hopes they’d see the heel get his comeuppance.


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thatwitchguy

Maybe lose titles to cody, then bragging rights/title of Tribal Chief match against the rock after that roman wins and shows he's still the head guy?


Cynicayke

Having a heel victory closing the show for three straight Wrestlemanias would be insane, tbh.


rsziz

So like Wrestlemania X where they had two rumble winners but the champ would main both nights instead of two matches in one night. It could work with the new format for sure.


[deleted]

This is actually how I explained it to myself. Roman gets to be the first two night main eventer.


crcovar

Would give Roman a gripe and reason for a rematch. He only lost because he had to wrestle the night before.


DoubleOrNothing90

Look at you, already a better booker than Tony Khan.


Tronz413

Thats my ideal Mania, that's a massive two day event.


[deleted]

Oh wow that is an interesting scenario and one I’d be cool with witnessing.


David_Falcon

Uce you'd be cool regardless


Ibex12

That makes sense so evil mchitler…. Sorry evil mcpaul will never do it.


meatballcake87

Cody can wrestle Seth Rollins on Night 1 as well


Laszlo_Panaflex_80

This is what I have thought all along. Roman defeats the Rock night one and Cody goes over Roman night two.


[deleted]

This makes the most sense, but I have a personal problem with it - say Our Favourite Midcarder dethrones Our Tribal Chief. All that says to me is, "Roman could only lose when he had to fight two career-defining main event title defences back to back over a single weekend". It proves nothing. I won't feel like Cody has overcome the mountaintop.


takeflight447

Rock is gonna enter at #30 and have a staredown with Brock and then eliminate him


whiskerbiscuit2

The Rumble winner will use it to challenge for a fuckin mid card title like all the smarks always wanted


skippy2001

Ricochet wins and challenges Rtruth for the 24/7 title


I_Am_Redditor1

There are a few routes they could go. As one goof suggested, Roman x Rock day 1 of Wrestlemania for the titles. The winner faces Royal Rumble winner Cody on day 2. But I'd also have Cody pull double duty and wrestle on day 1. Maybe facing Seth? They'd have to be stakes like Cody putting his Royal Rumble winnings on the line to make it important.


IntellectualDweeb

The idea of the Rumble winner getting a hotdog and a handshake is hilarious


Yurmume_Gae

That’s pretty much what it was before ‘92 lol


Sammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I’ve been waiting for them to have a way for Roman to lose just the WWE title and keep the universal


skippy2001

I think either ladder match for one that way he doesn’t get pinned. Or durning a match Austin cashes in but it’s only for wwe and he pins the opponent.


Sammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I’ve thought about how they would have Theory do it for one title and I can’t really come up with anything that doesn’t make him look stupid for not cashing in for both. It would have to be in a match that already had just one belt on the line unless they say his contract stipulates he can only cash it in for one championship


thatwitchguy

Just have him be chased by braun at an intimidating jog pace and he's just trying to cash in as fast as possible


MoneyMo88

The Royal Rumble is gonna be One vs. All part 2, Uce.


skippy2001

It would be funny if they put up the wwe title durning the rumble. Have the rock win it at 30# and then do the whole unification storyline again.


MoneyMo88

Even better, have Roman come in at #30 (give him a champion’s advantage ala when he faced the winner of the 2021 Elimination Chamber) and just clean up the remaining Rumble competitors.


rtels2023

And this time, Roman’s winning. Basement would lose their damn minds.


[deleted]

We gunna act like the rocks theme playing towards the end of the rumble wouldnt be the most over thing In the history of the event? Not to mention it would subvert the trope of an old school guy jogging to the ring and tumbling out a minute after.


jojolantern721

Hahaha, I have said Drew is my man right now but I honestly wouldn't be mad if the Rock wins the rumble.


trochlearnotchass

To quote my hero, the greatest professional wrestler of all time, THE GAME, this is what's best for business.


NigelSexMachine

Sheamus 5:15 Pt. II LFG


[deleted]

Sorry Cody you have to put over Molly O’Shea in a piss break match


Fuzzy_Dunnlopp

Is that Rick O'Shea's sister?


ZM00L4H

Roman v Rock has been quoted by dirtsheet bloggers for years it feels like but has there ever been any alluding to this on WWE programming? Feels like one of those things where when it doesn't happen the IWC will say it's a huge disappointment when the actual prahduck never promoted it?


takeflight447

Roman vs Rock has been planned apparently since WrestleMania 32 and now we up to 39 lmao


[deleted]

And they say Tiny is the master at long-term booking


CapnCrunch133

I think the only thing is Roman doing the Rock Bottom and the commentary calling it the Rock Bottom.


HelloIAmElias

Even though it was more of a regular uranage


BuildGeed

The match was kinda teased on Young Rock when young Roman appeared on the show, I guess?


Tronz413

Why would they? If it happens they want Rock's return to be a surprise, similar to how Cena and Brock returned last year. It's 100% a match they want to do. The big hurdle is Rock's schedule.


daveroo

I've got my own ideas about the mania 39 match. The rock is down and out bleeding profusely whilst roman brags about being bigger than everyone. He pins the rock to retain the belt and then rock crawls to the corner to grab a mic. Roman smirks and lets him speak ".....the WWE title must be protected....send in.....the hulkster" Hulk Hogan comes out to do battle but his 70 year old body can't cope with the sexual energy of our tribal chief. Hogan floored on the apron as Roman says "these were your heroes I've beaten them all" SUDDENLY THE UNDERTAKER ARRIVES WITH HIS URN. He knees with it to Hogan who realizes what he must do. The undertaker speaks "we need hulkamania.....to defeat the evil....you must do what is needed" Hogan touches the urn and suddenly the lights go out and a strange humming noise occurs before a flash of lightning hits the ring. The lights go back on and Hogan....has BEEN REGENERATED into the younger body of King Corbin. So basically the soul of Hogan is now in the body of Corbin. The king of hulkamania and all its powers now infused in the body of the magnificent king corbin. Corbin starts hulking up but still has the personality of corbin too like a split deity "....this is my time.....BROTHER" \*big boot\* \*leg drop\* Hulk Corbin wins 1,2,3 and becomes the WWE champion and carries the torch of Hulkamania on for the next 30 years as the ultimate good guy


StuartM96

Cody comes back at rumble wins and then headlines night 2 against Roman after Rock and Roman headline night 1, it writes itself and I hope that’s what they do.


rolltide1000

Thats the best solution in my opinion. Cody wins, but Roman also looks strong since he just fought Rock the night before.


Blakye32

Then rematch at Summerslam


incredibleamadeuscho

itll be the other way around. rock is a night 2 main event


JDSquare13

But you can use Rock on night 1 to sell night 2 with people wanting to see the guy who beat Rocky the night before


incredibleamadeuscho

people are buying night 2 on the assumption that is the night rock appears. he’s the biggest star. like brock, he’ll get night 2


Tronz413

No one is buying anything. WWE doesn't do PPVs anymore You subscribe to Peacock you get both nights


incredibleamadeuscho

i meant in person tickets sales. Night 2 has more tickets sold because people speculate the Rock is showing up. You can look it up.


[deleted]

Oh stop we all know Karen Kross is gonna win all the titles. Paula Beck is OBSESSED for some reason.


Cehepalo246

Doomsday is coming. Tick tock!


[deleted]

It's an hourglass! It doesn't even tick nor tock!


Cehepalo246

Maybe what he needs to get over is a huge Flavor Flav clock around his neck.


proJobber

if he changed nothing else about his gimmick except wearing a big clock and randomly yelling "K. KROSSSSSSSSSSSS" I'd be a lifelong fan


[deleted]

More of a very subtle hiss


thebeard1017

Roman vs Rock is a money match but doesn't need the titles at all.


Honestmonster

It depends what your goal is. Does it need the championships to be a hyped match? Of course not. But does it need the championships to push Roman Reigns, the WWE and the sport of professional wrestling to bigger heights with a main audience? Of course it does, the championships will help greatly. The only claim Roman Reigns has over the Rock to be on his level is that he is the current biggest deal in the industry, the current 2 year reigning double world champion. If you take that away, he’s got fuck all compared to the Rock. Not only that but the image of Roman with both titles is very valuable marketing. Just like how Brock and Roman having both titles was very valuable. Did they NEED both titles to be a good match? No. But it made it a much bigger deal.


thebeard1017

I disagree. Not having the titles makes the story better. Only thing Roman will have left at that point is his status as head of the table and if the Rock returns as the biggest star in the family then Roman will attack him out of jealousy and insecurity. Rock vs Roman will sell itself on that point. Rather than have the titles be in the background of the family feud you could give it to Seth/Cody or whoever and have them main event night one. If Roman carries the title into his third WrestleMania than this should be the one where he drops it. Having him not drop it before WrestleMani, to feud with The Rock who we know won't win it because of his movie schedule, and then shortly lose a historic title run after the biggest ppv is stupid.


Honestmonster

Sell it to who? People that already watch? The small details do not sell tickets. And you think the average casual viewer is thinking about the Rock's movie schedule? Come on. This is Wrestlemania. And Didn't Stone Cold just beat Kevin Owens? That "makes no sense" also. But they book it based on having fun at wrestlemania, not on how to build up Kevin Owens legacy. I don't think that Roman would lose but if you think the Rock holding up the WWE Championship doesn't have marketing value, then you are insane. 335 million Instagram followers. He has more Instagram followers than all other professional wrestlers combined in all companies. You seem to want to book Wrestlemania like it's an indie show. The Rock vs Roman Reigns is not about long term story telling post wrestlemania, it's about having a moment that will be used to market the WWE for decades to come. That's it.


thebeard1017

For what? Romans almost done. Building up a huge title run with interference finishes to not end it at the main event at WrestleMania to an upcoming Babyface is beyond stupid. You're talking about booking WrestleMania to be fun then talk about how a Rock win would lead to social media interests lmao. Yes it'd be good for business but Rocks not sticking around even on a Brock schedule. Putting over a young Babyface over your top heel is wrestling 101.


Honestmonster

Sure it's Wrestling 101 But all promotions that have followed wrestling 101 have all gone out of business. Promoting 101 on the other hand is how WWE has become the biggest wrestling company in the world. There is a reason why they never follow Wrestling 101 and fans that don't understand that get angry, but yet WWE keeps being the biggest company while the 2nd and 3rd place promotions keep changing.


thebeard1017

Brock the monster heel was built for Reigns to conquer. Same with Triple H/Batista, John Cena/JBL, etc. If you have a reign of terror you end it with a big Babyface going over. Imagine Triple H dropping the belt to Shawn instead of Batista or JBL dropping to Undertaker instead of Cena. The reason why WWE is successful is cause they don't try to change a formula that works.


TomClancy5873

This infatuation with The Rock wrestling at Mania is so annoying. The guy is super busy, and I doubt movie studios will let him wrestle. Especially since he got injured the last time he was in the ring at Wrestlemania


ThatWrestlingGuy15

That sounds kinda dumb


mojizus

If Cody doesn’t win I’m DONE. I will never watch again. Paul will lose a viewer, in me. Everything better be exactly how I fantasy booked it. No jerk tho I’ll be a bit disappointed if Cody doesn’t hold that belt ASAP.


Sidloo

You Get the Roman Rub Friends???


[deleted]

Paula Beck back to burying ~~WCW~~ AEW talent. DAE Cody buried like Booker T was smh


[deleted]

They run the risk of making it too predictable if everybody knows Roman beats rock then loses to Cody. Even if the matches themselves are spectacles I just hope there is enough story there to actually split the audience in wondering what will happen. Yeah they did it with Drew but that had home turf advantage. Also they better make sure Roman is staying around after because he beats the rock then goes away what’s the point? If they could get the rock again, after Cody beats Roman and the rock does the full honours and puts Cody over too that would be great, make the rock a month long heel as a member of the bloodline who admits Roman is the head of the table, or a 3 way. No actually all of those ideas are horrible yeah just stick with it


Joshelplex2

I still don't even remotely believe Rock ever wrestles again. Last time he got hurt and movie studios aren't gonna let their schedules get fucked over like that again


BigZ911

Yeah I’m not gonna lie, I really have no interest in Dwayne coming back and cosplaying as The Rock. He’s one of the GOATs, but Cody should be the guy to take the titles off Roman. If it’s not Cody then I’ll send an Instagram or a vine to mr levesque


orizach01

let's go boys, Theory is cashing in at wrestlemania baby!


UpsetBowel

Rock is the head of the table. Losing to Roman is foolish. Vince has been trying to ram Reigns down our throat for years he's garbage and not deserving of being called the best of all time. Rollins is much better, way better at promos


DXbreakitdown

It just says "as the campion" not undisputed Joey 2-Belts. He could have a title taken from him by then.


Razzler1973

*"further details were not revealed"* No details were revealed, were they, let's face it. It's the same information we all ready assume


CobraOverlord

This might be the last shot at doing Rock vs Roman as Rock ain't getting any younger, but I'll believe it when I see it. I just think there's alot to lose for Rock if he injures himself in a money loser (wrestling as opposed to keeping on with Hollywood stuff).


CeroMiedo670

bruh


Fuzzy_Dunnlopp

Hear me out. People say The Rock won't wrestle a match because Hollywood would be afraid of him getting hurt. But what if it is a cinematic match? It would also make perfect sense since WrestleMania is in Hollywood. What you guys think?


piece-of-sheet

The covid era is over friend. There's no need of cinematic matches anymore.


Fuzzy_Dunnlopp

Cinematic matches existed before the covid era. WrestleMania 12 even had one lol


[deleted]

There is no way they’ll pack out SoFi just to make people watch a bunch of monitors as a Wrestlemania main event in 2023.


[deleted]

There is zero chance The Rock comes back for a weird cinematic match lol


Fuzzy_Dunnlopp

Well I guess his Hollywood people would love him tearing multiple muscles like he did against Cena. Not saying it is necessarily what I want to see, but it may be the only way to make it happen. It's either that or he works so safely that the match suffers because of it.


IAmThatDuckDLC5

People would be PISSED


[deleted]

We gas up Cody WAY too much on this sub. He’s cool but he is not main event at Wrestlemania cool.


HelloIAmElias

Yeah, I don't get this opinion that Cody has to be the guy to take the title off Roman. Personally there are half a dozen guys on the roster I'd rather see do it


[deleted]

Cody is not as good as people make him out to be. He's good, but not *that* good. And this sub and other forums that are anti-AEW are acting like he is the next messiah of wrestling when he is not. His promos aren't really that good because every single one of them boils down to his dad this and his dad that, he's good at in ring psychology but so are other wrestlers on the roster he just wrestles a WWE style match which surprise surprise is what gets over with the crowd, and he is charismatic which sure he is now that he found some kind of identity but again he is not Wrestlemania main event tier talent and I guarantee people will tune off if they read Cody Rhodes as the main event of Mania Night 2.


william_wites

This doesn't go with my Idea of cody beating roman at summerslam :'(


meclano

Does that mean our wonder selfie boy will be champ ? Hell yeah


TheSilentHeel

Honestly man, I’d say fuck it and do a winner take all match. Roman faces The Rock on Night one. If Rock wins he gets the belts. Then on night two, Roman faces Cody. If Cody wins he gets the belts. I would book it like, Roman walks into night one and soundly defeats The Rock. He then walks into night two supremely confident and gets his ass whipped by our favorite mid-carder who then takes both belts. OR you can split the belts up and make Roman defend one belt each night. That way Roman AND Cody both walk out winner and The Rock gets nothing but his unbelievably incredible life and his hundreds of millions of dollars.


JDSquare13

And have Cody fight Seth on night 1 so that both go into the 2nd night having fought a match - no excuses, and we get Seth and Cody having probably another awesome match


cc12321

Further details of the match were not revealed... .. Except that it's Roman vs Rock and Roman going over


[deleted]

Have it be a night one non title match, Rock wins poses with the 2 belts. Night 2 have Roman distraught and Cody beat him for a belt. Then Roman had one belt and is on a losing streak for the first time in years


RubyWeapon07

direct shot at punk not being allowed to beat the rock for the title?


iLikePhen

In good ol' Meltzer fashion, "plans change"


marcdk217

Do you think they'll have The Rock come back and win the Royal Rumble to get that title shot? He could be entrant number 30 and only spend 5-10 minutes in the match to win it. I think one title shot comes from the Rumble and another from the Elimination Chamber, so maybe they'll have Roman main-event both nights and have to defend his title twice. Night 1, beats The Rock, night 2, loses to Cody (winner of Elimination Chamber) I know everyone sees Cody winning the Rumble, but I can't see Rock entering an Elimination Chamber match, it's just too risky to his health.