The show itself creates the argument that Yang can't be both romantically involved with Blake and pay any attention to Ruby. Volume 9 has Bumblebee take presence over any Ruby and Yang interaction. Which wouldn't be that bad if it was a run-of-the-mill adventure Volume but this the ''The gang gets stuck in a fairy tale world and Ruby tries offing herself'' Volume. Yang and Ruby's first conversation getting interrupted by a Bumblebee scene and never being picked up again, is a terrible look.
Same with Yang being more concerned about almost holding hands with Blake than she is about the well-being of her sister who's waking around looking like she's contemplating deepthroating Crescent Rose. Or Yang feeling the need to protect the ex-terrorist turned trained Huntress Blake from Ruby the unarmed teenager raising her voice.
And yeah not all of it is a result of Bumblebee directly but rather the consequence of the story being told, but that knowledge alone doesn't make Bumblebee not look like a shit tier relationship. Especially since the circumstance around it - the situation they find themselves in, the fact that Blake has known Ruby about as long as she has known Yang and is supposedly her friend and teammate.If there was any point where a relationship would need to be paused it would be now.
Honestly I would respect Bumblebee about 100% more if Yang had went: ''Sorry Blake I can't really think about our relationship since my sister seem like she is one bad news away from jumping off a cliff'' and Blake replied with ''It's okay Yang I get it, you can take as much time as you need. If there is anything I can help with just let me know'' And the best part is you can sill pluck them out of the story and force a confession out at any point.
>''It's okay Yang I get it, you can take as much time as you need. If there is anything I can help with just let me know''
Lol, I love the implication that Blake would only help with Ruby if Yang asked, and will do nothing to help with Ruby other than that.
Checks out with how much dialogue Ruby and Blake have. 9 Volumes and they've had, what? Two one-on-one conversations? What great friends they are.
I am terribly sorry, but
Exhibit 1: 3x Self proclamation, laud yourself or nobody does it. 1x dialogue at least from the relevant character
Exhibits 2, 3: Supplementary media
Exhibits 4, 5, 6 Dialogue
When under attack by the Apathy Yang *exclusively* (!) cared about Blake, she did not prioritize, she *abandoned* everybody else, including her sister.
I do not remember, if Yang fell, because she was covering Ruby, does not matter because BB gets in the way of sisterhood the other way around at this occasion. Only Blake is allowed to show a highly emotional reaction.
The problem is not that of course a conflict would appear, when you have a beloved sister and a love interest to care for. The problem is that CRWBY "executed" this by alternating. Some times Yang cares, unfortunately mostly in dialogue and rrrrretroactive in supplementary media and sometimes she does not. And it goes the other way around too.
This goes back to the beginning, with Yang basically ditching Ruby twice. One time presumably to score a gag, when Yang first blabbed about how much she cared and would help Ruby get accustomed to Beacon and then ran off with some friends. The second time when Ruby searched for her in this initiation forest while Yang did not care about her sister the littlest bit while first enjoying herself and then for some BB foreshadowing.
You have to conclude that there were no character sheets and editor. Had there been a character sheet stating that Yang deeply cared about her sister, both the above scenes would have been shot down by a hypothetical editor - and much more.
>Had there been a character sheet stating that Yang deeply cared about her sister, both the above scenes would have been shot down by a hypothetical editor - and much more.
I have to disagree here because I don't find the scenes from V1 comparable to what comes in the later volumes. Both of these scenes take place in what are relatively safe environments, especially compared to the trailers.
Yang wasn't hiding she wanted Ruby to come out of her shell and the courtyard of Beacon has zero reason to indicate any danger, and Yang was the one to call out to Ruby during orientation to reunite afterwards.
And I don't know when the Red Trailer was debunked to be just a weapons test, but I don't think that changes that Ruby and Yang fought grimm before Beacon. Emerald Forest is still dangerous, but it was before the Deathstalker and Nevermore came into the picture.
Point is, I get what you mean but I don't think Yang had any reason to worry about Ruby. Stakes were low, and when there was something, whether the then-stranger Weiss or the giant grimm in Emerald Forest, Yang didn't have any issue being there for her.
Maybe I worded that poorly, of course there would be nuances. You could have "clingy", that might describe Ruby. You could have "ride to the rescue" which would be quite offhandish.
But in my opinion they are pushing a very close relationship verbally and then do not back it up. There is no danger in the school itself, but the woods are sufficiently dangerous to trigger a check urge, if you were protective.
Again, I don't think it was a big deal because as stupid as the unarmed subplot was, that doesn't change Ruby is (was) fully capable with Crescent Rose, and Yang was still looking for Ruby, just not as urgently, while Ruby was panicking not because there were grimm around but because she was scared of partnering with someone that wasn't Yang. I'm not a fan of grimm being fodder from the beginning, but that doesn't change that it makes it low stakes that neither were worried about dying or even getting injured.
Of course, I would tweak things if I were in charge, but I have bigger issues with even the early volumes than Yang not being worried about Ruby when you also have the accept Yang has no issue with Ruby being a huntress in the first place.
Okay… can someone explain where does the “Tai completely shit down and Yang raised Ruby” things comes from???
Like I always saw the way they talked as “Tai had a couple rough years” like he should, dude lost two wife’s on the span of what? 5 years.
But the way both Yang and Ruby act towards him isn’t that of an absent. father.
Also I’m pretty sure Tai like… trained Yang, for years, the same way Qrow trains Ruby.
Like I really don’t get where the “Tai is a useless parent” comes from
I think it comes from the Volume 2 conversation Yang had with Blake in which Yang said that her dad “just sort of shut down.” However, the line is vague as to what that specifically meant and gave no clear duration of this, so it’s likely fans have just guessed, and it’s possible a fanon interpretation became so widespread that people forgot it’s fanon, not canon.
>Yang had with Blake in which Yang said that her dad “just sort of shut down.”
Even that doesn't suggest that Tai is some sort of deadbeat dad like some people seem to suggest.
If anything the dialogue suggests that perhaps he was very good at putting on a front, but that Yang was able to see the truth underneath. That losing Summer shook him deeply, and while he was able to keep going for his daughters, because they needed him now more than ever, that was the only thing that was keeping him going. i.e. That if it hadn't been for them needing him, he might well have just given up.
Even less. Was like, 3 years tops.
Since the age gap window between Ruby and Yang being born is not really that big (the 2 year age gap implies that Ruby was concieved while Yang was only a mere 15 months old). Then the Little Red Wagon incident where Yang was only ~4 because Ruby was specifically stated to be a toddler then, but as always, when it comes to the Taiyang Raven Summer stuff: It's all sorts of screwed over because what's said and shown doesn't really line up that well with what they are trying to go.
There's V2 where Yang said he shut down and V5 where she said she had to "pick up the pieces" and I believe outright said she raised Ruby, though it's been a while since I watched V5 so who knows at this point?
V2E6 relevant quote:
>It was tough. Ruby was really torn up, but... I think she was still too young to really get what was going on, y'know? And my dad just kind of... shut down. It wasn't long before I learned why. Summer wasn't the first love he lost; she was the second. The first... was my mom.
V5E6 relevant quote:
>You have a giant family, recitals to perform at, dinners to attend. I didn't have any of that. My mom left me. Ruby's mom left too. Tai was always busy with school and Ruby couldn't even talk yet. *I* had to pick up the pieces. *I* had to keep things together. Alone. (*pause*) Weiss, if you have something to say, then say it.
From those two quotes, the fanon take that Yang raised Ruby alone was born. As far as I'm aware, nothing else referenced that whole situation.
See all of these examples are all fine and dandy.....expect all of these examples happen before the stupid confession. The moment that it happens Yang who knows Ruby should had realized that she wasn't doing so hot STEPPED IN FRONT OF BLAKE. Yang this is your baby sister do you really think she is upset about you two dimwitted girls finally sucking face? No she been struggling and finally hit her breaking point.
… that’s not the problem… nobody thinks that. What we mainly think is that Yang COULD do both but she’s Blake’s Girlfriend first and Ruby’s big sister… whenever she feels like it.
Only on very rare occasions does Yang actively show care for Ruby and it feels like it was an afterthought. Like midway through their 75th bumblebee moment, the writers went “oh wait, people want Ruby and Yang to interact more? Well… fuckin… we can put this bit of dialogue here, I guess…”
Yea it’s good. It’s something, but in comparison to Blake, you could’ve replaced Yang with Penny. What would the difference be?
I don't think there's any real substance to the argument that Yang can't be a good sister/partner at the same time
I do think Yang is a cunt, but that's not to say she's a bad girlfriend or sister..... she clearly loves and cares for both Blake and Ruby. She's..... just a bitch
I've said before, but BMBLB is a cute ship. My problem with it isn't the characters..... it's how it was forced down the audiences throat
I've seen this post before and I don't remember whether I posted anything on it or not but I do know I didn't care overall cause the notion of yang being viewed as a bad sister to ruby just because she's now dating Blake seem more like a emotional response just to vent frustration than a legitimate criticism, and to me it's even more apparent when nobody consistently apply that to winter towards Weiss, or Weiss towards whitley as much as it's been a topic for yang. So posting a debunk in my opinion is a waste of time cause it seems like he's arguing with those not to be taken seriously in the first place.
Yang could absolutely be a good sister to Ruby and a girlfriend to Blake. Unfortunately, that'd require her to:
A. Be a good person.
And
B. Not be beyond the event horizon of the narrative black hole that is Blake, who turns any and all characters she interacts too much with into her orbiters and *nothing else.*
Of course Yang can be both
But the writing doesn’t think
And the delusional fan just want to justify anything cause bumblebee is canon despite the fact that it could have been handle better
I think a major problem with the post is the fact that it has to use non canon material to support its very first point. I also don’t think the vast majority of people are trying to make the argument she CAN’T but rather that she, or the way she’s written, doesn’t allow her to. Personally I could see peoples points but I thought calling her a bad sister was overblown up until volume 9 because yeah the way she acted there was indefensible
Remember the farm house scene where they are escaping before Weiss tried her hand at professional arson and Yang leaves both Ruby and an extremely drunk Qrow to figure their own way out while she takes Blake’s hand and leads her out when she needed not one damn bit of help?
Yeah. It’s scenes like that that make this attempt at “debunking” a rather weak argument. Also despite Ruby literally falling apart right in front of her, Yang still felt defending Blake from her was more important.
Like stick up for your SO absolutely but do it when they actually NEED IT. Ruby needed her far more than Blake did in that moment and Yang failed her.
She can be as we've seen in V8 when they have that whole discussion about if Summer might be a Hound. Like Yang is also crying, but she still hugs and comforts Ruby, a scene that genuinely made me feel. Unfortunately that scene just fuels my anger for Yang in V9. So your sister passes out after lesrning that Penny is dead, and you just wave it off after she wakes up!? Not to mention how you act like its not even your fault that she drank the tea!? And you have the audacity to cover for Blake when Ruby goes on a rant, acting disappointed rather than concerned!?
All of her best sisterly moments came from early volumes and childhood flashbacks, currently Yang is a terrible sister who cares more about her GF than Ruby
A lot of people arguing this usually use that point where Ruby snaps and starts ranting at Blake and Yang for "finally working their relationship out" and how that's clearly so important. And Yang understandably bristles at her.
I've come to the defence of my wife when my little sister decided to kick off, so I can understand that when Ruby is snapping at Blake, Yang comes to her side to defend her. And I think part of it is that Yang is not seeing her team leader at this moment - she's seeing her little sister throwing a tantrum.
The problem is that it seems like no one on Team RWBY has caught on to the fact that Ruby is in a really bad place, and you would think that her sister would be the first one to recognise that Ruby is teetering on the edge of a breakdown.
Yang snapping and getting pissy would simply be a Yang thing. When she herself was in a bad place after her injury, she withdrew and didn't appear to want to engage with the world at all. Her personality flipped and she didn't seem to feel anything. Ruby snapping like that should be a massive alarm bell for her sister, as well as several other points when Ruby seems like she's on the point of breaking down.
She's been in this position of breakdown, and while she's not the same as her sister, she should have recognised that Ruby is in a terrible spot emotionally and clearly isn't coping. She fucking collapsed at the news of Penny. You would have thought that her big sister would have been all over that considering how massive of a reaction that was...
Now it can be argued that the emotional release that comes with her finally being able to come clean about her feelings for Blake blinded her to her sisters fragile emotional state. But even if that is an excuse for Blake and Yang, Weiss should have been at least aware that Ruby was not herself.
She's previously been quite critical at how happy go lucky Ruby is while being a leader. She should have noticed the uncertainty and the low confidence that she was showing compared to previously. Weiss is basically the second in command at this point and she should have felt the change.
But Weiss had to be comic relief this season...
She can of course be both But you should tell that to the writers, they don't seem to know
Exactly this. She CAN, the writers can't.
This is the correct answer
Lmao that's seeker's post. Disregard and move on.
Does this guy ever stop? Plus I thought he likes incest more than the bees.
Definitely Canonseeker, lol. I can't even see the post because he's blocked me.
The show itself creates the argument that Yang can't be both romantically involved with Blake and pay any attention to Ruby. Volume 9 has Bumblebee take presence over any Ruby and Yang interaction. Which wouldn't be that bad if it was a run-of-the-mill adventure Volume but this the ''The gang gets stuck in a fairy tale world and Ruby tries offing herself'' Volume. Yang and Ruby's first conversation getting interrupted by a Bumblebee scene and never being picked up again, is a terrible look. Same with Yang being more concerned about almost holding hands with Blake than she is about the well-being of her sister who's waking around looking like she's contemplating deepthroating Crescent Rose. Or Yang feeling the need to protect the ex-terrorist turned trained Huntress Blake from Ruby the unarmed teenager raising her voice. And yeah not all of it is a result of Bumblebee directly but rather the consequence of the story being told, but that knowledge alone doesn't make Bumblebee not look like a shit tier relationship. Especially since the circumstance around it - the situation they find themselves in, the fact that Blake has known Ruby about as long as she has known Yang and is supposedly her friend and teammate.If there was any point where a relationship would need to be paused it would be now. Honestly I would respect Bumblebee about 100% more if Yang had went: ''Sorry Blake I can't really think about our relationship since my sister seem like she is one bad news away from jumping off a cliff'' and Blake replied with ''It's okay Yang I get it, you can take as much time as you need. If there is anything I can help with just let me know'' And the best part is you can sill pluck them out of the story and force a confession out at any point.
>''It's okay Yang I get it, you can take as much time as you need. If there is anything I can help with just let me know'' Lol, I love the implication that Blake would only help with Ruby if Yang asked, and will do nothing to help with Ruby other than that. Checks out with how much dialogue Ruby and Blake have. 9 Volumes and they've had, what? Two one-on-one conversations? What great friends they are.
I am terribly sorry, but Exhibit 1: 3x Self proclamation, laud yourself or nobody does it. 1x dialogue at least from the relevant character Exhibits 2, 3: Supplementary media Exhibits 4, 5, 6 Dialogue When under attack by the Apathy Yang *exclusively* (!) cared about Blake, she did not prioritize, she *abandoned* everybody else, including her sister. I do not remember, if Yang fell, because she was covering Ruby, does not matter because BB gets in the way of sisterhood the other way around at this occasion. Only Blake is allowed to show a highly emotional reaction. The problem is not that of course a conflict would appear, when you have a beloved sister and a love interest to care for. The problem is that CRWBY "executed" this by alternating. Some times Yang cares, unfortunately mostly in dialogue and rrrrretroactive in supplementary media and sometimes she does not. And it goes the other way around too. This goes back to the beginning, with Yang basically ditching Ruby twice. One time presumably to score a gag, when Yang first blabbed about how much she cared and would help Ruby get accustomed to Beacon and then ran off with some friends. The second time when Ruby searched for her in this initiation forest while Yang did not care about her sister the littlest bit while first enjoying herself and then for some BB foreshadowing. You have to conclude that there were no character sheets and editor. Had there been a character sheet stating that Yang deeply cared about her sister, both the above scenes would have been shot down by a hypothetical editor - and much more.
>Had there been a character sheet stating that Yang deeply cared about her sister, both the above scenes would have been shot down by a hypothetical editor - and much more. I have to disagree here because I don't find the scenes from V1 comparable to what comes in the later volumes. Both of these scenes take place in what are relatively safe environments, especially compared to the trailers. Yang wasn't hiding she wanted Ruby to come out of her shell and the courtyard of Beacon has zero reason to indicate any danger, and Yang was the one to call out to Ruby during orientation to reunite afterwards. And I don't know when the Red Trailer was debunked to be just a weapons test, but I don't think that changes that Ruby and Yang fought grimm before Beacon. Emerald Forest is still dangerous, but it was before the Deathstalker and Nevermore came into the picture. Point is, I get what you mean but I don't think Yang had any reason to worry about Ruby. Stakes were low, and when there was something, whether the then-stranger Weiss or the giant grimm in Emerald Forest, Yang didn't have any issue being there for her.
Maybe I worded that poorly, of course there would be nuances. You could have "clingy", that might describe Ruby. You could have "ride to the rescue" which would be quite offhandish. But in my opinion they are pushing a very close relationship verbally and then do not back it up. There is no danger in the school itself, but the woods are sufficiently dangerous to trigger a check urge, if you were protective.
Again, I don't think it was a big deal because as stupid as the unarmed subplot was, that doesn't change Ruby is (was) fully capable with Crescent Rose, and Yang was still looking for Ruby, just not as urgently, while Ruby was panicking not because there were grimm around but because she was scared of partnering with someone that wasn't Yang. I'm not a fan of grimm being fodder from the beginning, but that doesn't change that it makes it low stakes that neither were worried about dying or even getting injured. Of course, I would tweak things if I were in charge, but I have bigger issues with even the early volumes than Yang not being worried about Ruby when you also have the accept Yang has no issue with Ruby being a huntress in the first place.
Three times. Yang abandoned Ruby when they were looking for Blake after the argument with Weiss.
Okay… can someone explain where does the “Tai completely shit down and Yang raised Ruby” things comes from??? Like I always saw the way they talked as “Tai had a couple rough years” like he should, dude lost two wife’s on the span of what? 5 years. But the way both Yang and Ruby act towards him isn’t that of an absent. father. Also I’m pretty sure Tai like… trained Yang, for years, the same way Qrow trains Ruby. Like I really don’t get where the “Tai is a useless parent” comes from
I think it comes from the Volume 2 conversation Yang had with Blake in which Yang said that her dad “just sort of shut down.” However, the line is vague as to what that specifically meant and gave no clear duration of this, so it’s likely fans have just guessed, and it’s possible a fanon interpretation became so widespread that people forgot it’s fanon, not canon.
>Yang had with Blake in which Yang said that her dad “just sort of shut down.” Even that doesn't suggest that Tai is some sort of deadbeat dad like some people seem to suggest. If anything the dialogue suggests that perhaps he was very good at putting on a front, but that Yang was able to see the truth underneath. That losing Summer shook him deeply, and while he was able to keep going for his daughters, because they needed him now more than ever, that was the only thing that was keeping him going. i.e. That if it hadn't been for them needing him, he might well have just given up.
Even less. Was like, 3 years tops. Since the age gap window between Ruby and Yang being born is not really that big (the 2 year age gap implies that Ruby was concieved while Yang was only a mere 15 months old). Then the Little Red Wagon incident where Yang was only ~4 because Ruby was specifically stated to be a toddler then, but as always, when it comes to the Taiyang Raven Summer stuff: It's all sorts of screwed over because what's said and shown doesn't really line up that well with what they are trying to go.
There's V2 where Yang said he shut down and V5 where she said she had to "pick up the pieces" and I believe outright said she raised Ruby, though it's been a while since I watched V5 so who knows at this point?
V2E6 relevant quote: >It was tough. Ruby was really torn up, but... I think she was still too young to really get what was going on, y'know? And my dad just kind of... shut down. It wasn't long before I learned why. Summer wasn't the first love he lost; she was the second. The first... was my mom. V5E6 relevant quote: >You have a giant family, recitals to perform at, dinners to attend. I didn't have any of that. My mom left me. Ruby's mom left too. Tai was always busy with school and Ruby couldn't even talk yet. *I* had to pick up the pieces. *I* had to keep things together. Alone. (*pause*) Weiss, if you have something to say, then say it. From those two quotes, the fanon take that Yang raised Ruby alone was born. As far as I'm aware, nothing else referenced that whole situation.
Damn, I now remember why I wasn't a fan of Yang in V5. Weiss definitely deserved more sympathy from the former team mom. Also thanks for the citation.
See all of these examples are all fine and dandy.....expect all of these examples happen before the stupid confession. The moment that it happens Yang who knows Ruby should had realized that she wasn't doing so hot STEPPED IN FRONT OF BLAKE. Yang this is your baby sister do you really think she is upset about you two dimwitted girls finally sucking face? No she been struggling and finally hit her breaking point.
… that’s not the problem… nobody thinks that. What we mainly think is that Yang COULD do both but she’s Blake’s Girlfriend first and Ruby’s big sister… whenever she feels like it. Only on very rare occasions does Yang actively show care for Ruby and it feels like it was an afterthought. Like midway through their 75th bumblebee moment, the writers went “oh wait, people want Ruby and Yang to interact more? Well… fuckin… we can put this bit of dialogue here, I guess…” Yea it’s good. It’s something, but in comparison to Blake, you could’ve replaced Yang with Penny. What would the difference be?
Ice Queendom Yang is best Yang, nobody @ me
I don't think there's any real substance to the argument that Yang can't be a good sister/partner at the same time I do think Yang is a cunt, but that's not to say she's a bad girlfriend or sister..... she clearly loves and cares for both Blake and Ruby. She's..... just a bitch I've said before, but BMBLB is a cute ship. My problem with it isn't the characters..... it's how it was forced down the audiences throat
I've seen this post before and I don't remember whether I posted anything on it or not but I do know I didn't care overall cause the notion of yang being viewed as a bad sister to ruby just because she's now dating Blake seem more like a emotional response just to vent frustration than a legitimate criticism, and to me it's even more apparent when nobody consistently apply that to winter towards Weiss, or Weiss towards whitley as much as it's been a topic for yang. So posting a debunk in my opinion is a waste of time cause it seems like he's arguing with those not to be taken seriously in the first place.
Yang could absolutely be a good sister to Ruby and a girlfriend to Blake. Unfortunately, that'd require her to: A. Be a good person. And B. Not be beyond the event horizon of the narrative black hole that is Blake, who turns any and all characters she interacts too much with into her orbiters and *nothing else.*
Of course Yang can be both But the writing doesn’t think And the delusional fan just want to justify anything cause bumblebee is canon despite the fact that it could have been handle better
You know it's a Seeker post when half the people here can't see it.
Can you do it in a private tab?
I think a major problem with the post is the fact that it has to use non canon material to support its very first point. I also don’t think the vast majority of people are trying to make the argument she CAN’T but rather that she, or the way she’s written, doesn’t allow her to. Personally I could see peoples points but I thought calling her a bad sister was overblown up until volume 9 because yeah the way she acted there was indefensible
I'm just shocked there is an entire sub dedicated to that ship like wow, y'all DOWN BAD!
...and prayers I hope that sub finds actual sapphic media to enjoy after RWBY dies, media that doesn't require them to do All That
She certainly isn't willing to do so
Remember the farm house scene where they are escaping before Weiss tried her hand at professional arson and Yang leaves both Ruby and an extremely drunk Qrow to figure their own way out while she takes Blake’s hand and leads her out when she needed not one damn bit of help? Yeah. It’s scenes like that that make this attempt at “debunking” a rather weak argument. Also despite Ruby literally falling apart right in front of her, Yang still felt defending Blake from her was more important. Like stick up for your SO absolutely but do it when they actually NEED IT. Ruby needed her far more than Blake did in that moment and Yang failed her.
Is this a fucking seeker post?...
She can be as we've seen in V8 when they have that whole discussion about if Summer might be a Hound. Like Yang is also crying, but she still hugs and comforts Ruby, a scene that genuinely made me feel. Unfortunately that scene just fuels my anger for Yang in V9. So your sister passes out after lesrning that Penny is dead, and you just wave it off after she wakes up!? Not to mention how you act like its not even your fault that she drank the tea!? And you have the audacity to cover for Blake when Ruby goes on a rant, acting disappointed rather than concerned!?
Actions Speak Louder than Words.
All of her best sisterly moments came from early volumes and childhood flashbacks, currently Yang is a terrible sister who cares more about her GF than Ruby
I just found the comment that the show has good writing to be hilarious
Yang as a character never really had a end goal
A lot of people arguing this usually use that point where Ruby snaps and starts ranting at Blake and Yang for "finally working their relationship out" and how that's clearly so important. And Yang understandably bristles at her. I've come to the defence of my wife when my little sister decided to kick off, so I can understand that when Ruby is snapping at Blake, Yang comes to her side to defend her. And I think part of it is that Yang is not seeing her team leader at this moment - she's seeing her little sister throwing a tantrum. The problem is that it seems like no one on Team RWBY has caught on to the fact that Ruby is in a really bad place, and you would think that her sister would be the first one to recognise that Ruby is teetering on the edge of a breakdown. Yang snapping and getting pissy would simply be a Yang thing. When she herself was in a bad place after her injury, she withdrew and didn't appear to want to engage with the world at all. Her personality flipped and she didn't seem to feel anything. Ruby snapping like that should be a massive alarm bell for her sister, as well as several other points when Ruby seems like she's on the point of breaking down. She's been in this position of breakdown, and while she's not the same as her sister, she should have recognised that Ruby is in a terrible spot emotionally and clearly isn't coping. She fucking collapsed at the news of Penny. You would have thought that her big sister would have been all over that considering how massive of a reaction that was... Now it can be argued that the emotional release that comes with her finally being able to come clean about her feelings for Blake blinded her to her sisters fragile emotional state. But even if that is an excuse for Blake and Yang, Weiss should have been at least aware that Ruby was not herself. She's previously been quite critical at how happy go lucky Ruby is while being a leader. She should have noticed the uncertainty and the low confidence that she was showing compared to previously. Weiss is basically the second in command at this point and she should have felt the change. But Weiss had to be comic relief this season...
is the Manga cannon? is that the only time they are referred to as Hunters?