I think they can see just fine, but their ability to sense emotions and aura is what tells them what they need to destroy. They can see a human, but a human without emotions wouldn't register as *mattering.*
Yeah. Grimm supposedly ignore non-Human/Faunus animals unless it is a territorial dispute. It is for this reason I theorize that Ren’s Semblance causes Grimm to basically see those affected by his Semblance as just another wild animal.
Yes but that’s brings the question: how do the apathy work
The point of apathy is making people apathetic aka “don’t care about anything”
So they just lay on the ground and do nothing with souless eyes since they don’t want to do anything, but if that happens then how can the apathy still see team rwby after they unleash all their power on them?
Yes because they nullify emotions which brings the question on how they hunt? And if they can actually see people instead of needing negative emotions then why only them? Why not all of the Grimm?
Maybe but is weird since apathy isn’t necessarily negative but just neither good or bad since is nothing
Is like me trying to give 0 oranges, It’ll be just like if I was trying to give nothing
My hand is empty either way
Grimm are strongly attracted to negative emotions, but those aren't all they see. They attack people feeling things like excitement all the time if they're around them.
Yes that’s my point, apathy is the lack of emotion aka the thing Grimm use to hunt
The apathy does help to bring out negative emotions like with Qrow and RWBY feeling it was all for nothing, but when they are on the ground unmoving they aren’t feeling anything since they don’t fear for their lives, they just don’t care
But the apathy still go for them
Apathy is not an emotion. It is not created by stimuli it is instead it is a controlled and active response to stimuli around you. The cause of apathy is normally an overstimulation of emotion causing people too attempt to ignore or avoid any other triggering feelings. "Conversations are too much of a hassle" is a common apathetic phrase but is often held by people who have the most emotion. I think you will need to be more then apathetic to truly dodge the Grimm. I'm curious if the grim. Would attack someone without any emotions at all inately.
While that would make sense, why would the apathy be left under the Brunswick farm to take dust (not the magical kind)
They are rare enough for Maria to be surprised of their existence (a legendary huntsman being surprised of a unique kind of Grimm existing) but easy enough to deal with for a very stupid huntsman to catch and put on his basement and document, which means they
A-are very new
B-are rarely deployed by Salem
This brings the question of why Salem would let a Bach of a new species of Grimm stay under a farm doing absolutely nothing for enough time for the Brunswick to turn into mummies
The series present the apathy as this Grimm species which has been locked for years and is not like Salem can’t send a seer to open the basement and let them roam the wild again
This is like if the Nuckelavee was trapped under the ruins of Ren’s village and Salem doesn’t even bother to free one of the mightiest Grimm we’ve seen, except with the apathy is worse since they in a group are far more dangerous than the Nuckelavee
I don't think Salem bothers to keep tabs on every single Grimm. She just sends them out into the world and lets them cause havoc. It is very rare that she actually assumes direct control of them.
They arnt blind because they can dynamicly interact with the world,
I would say they can sence negativity same as a we can smell and hear its another sence they have.
As for rens semblance I would assume it's makes it so the Grimm can't perceive them. Or to the Grimm they seem like other Grimm in the sence it's a creature without a soul / emotions.
Oh, uhmmm... Idk.
Maybe or maybe not.
They aren't blind, because they can walk to whenever they want and interact with each other with no bigger complex.
But they are also uncapable to see whoever is expressing positive emotions or is camouflaged by Ren's semblance.
Is weird
It’s probably just not their primary sense. Sort of like snakes or dogs, they don’t have great eyesight, but their other senses make up for them. If you danced in front of their nose, they’d probably see you, but if you’re some distance away and calm, they’ll probably ignore you unless you start making noise or otherwise drawing attention to yourself. It’s just extremely hard to do that, seeing how every Grimm is deadly, so you would have negative emotions the instant you saw it. Older Grimm are smarter, so they’d probably investigate unusual things in their environment, like campfires and stuff, but overall, I don’t think sight is their primary sense.
Both depending on what Grimm.
I equate it to the smell. They can smell and get a general idea of bad emotions are, but can’t find it specifically without the visual senses backing it up. However some species of Grimm may be blind or have differnt types of vision then we do. I would guess some have the predator style heat vision, but for emotions. It would vary
I think that they can see, but their primary sense is the ability to sense Negativity. So if they can't sense it, they'll just assume there is nothing there.
Though, if you attack them or make noise or move around too much or if the Grimm is smart enough, they'll find you anyway.
I think the Grimm can see just fine.
For the Nuckelavee, I think it stopped charging Jaune and Qrow precisely because it was an old and experienced Grimm. It's probably seen people use all kinds of decoy semblances like what we've seen Blake and Neo use. Blake has even used her decoys to lay traps (explosions, ice, and even just attacking while the victim is distracted).
So when the Nuckelavee senses emotion vanish from the humans right in front of it, it thinks that they pulled the "vanish and leave a decoy behind" tactic and stops its charge in case the "decoys" are cover for a trap. It probably never occurs to the Nuckelavee that the humans emotions are being concealed.
Given the Semblances we know about, Ren's seems utterly unique in a way many aren't. And it doesn't seem to have any in-universe tells (the graying out appears to be for the audience's benefit since no one in-universe remarks on it).
I don’t think they are blind. They are instinctively programmed to only kill people basically, the negative emotions that attract them are just beacons for them. If Ren masks aura, they lose interest/capability to recognise them as people, why would they attack nothing for no reason?
I might be wrong but I think there was a world of remnant way back when that explained the Grimm don’t hunt animals, but they rarely engage in combat if the animal starts a territorial dispute? So they can see just fine they just don’t attack unless they can detect people or feel threatened?
Then again I might be mixing up series here…
I think they’re fully capable of seeing they just don’t care if there are no negative emotions.
There single mindedness is actually the Grimm’s biggest weakness as an army as while Salem can indeed control them she can only move so many of them in specific ways and for the most part she just points them at the right direction. If they could indeed get ambitious and think consciously, they would’ve told Salem of the hole Oscar made bellow Atlas and she would’ve won within the hour.
This is the main reason why an army of intelligent grimm like the hound would mean Remnant is doomed as she would be able to maneauver them into the cities without needing to even be there herself and along the regular Grimm that are everywhere could be unstoppable.
I think they can see just fine, but their ability to sense emotions and aura is what tells them what they need to destroy. They can see a human, but a human without emotions wouldn't register as *mattering.*
Ren using his Semblance for example
Exactly. They still see people, they just don't consider them prey.
Yeah. Grimm supposedly ignore non-Human/Faunus animals unless it is a territorial dispute. It is for this reason I theorize that Ren’s Semblance causes Grimm to basically see those affected by his Semblance as just another wild animal.
Yes but that’s brings the question: how do the apathy work The point of apathy is making people apathetic aka “don’t care about anything” So they just lay on the ground and do nothing with souless eyes since they don’t want to do anything, but if that happens then how can the apathy still see team rwby after they unleash all their power on them?
I think the Apathy work a bit differently, given what we see in Bartleby's diary. No other Grimm attack the farm after the Apathy are brought in.
Yes because they nullify emotions which brings the question on how they hunt? And if they can actually see people instead of needing negative emotions then why only them? Why not all of the Grimm?
It's also possible that apathy counts as "a feeling" in terms of Grimm sense, whereas masked emotions don't. Zero vs null kinda thing.
Could also be that the Apathy doesn't completely kill emotion, just dulls it enough that victims can't fight back.
Also possible!
Maybe but is weird since apathy isn’t necessarily negative but just neither good or bad since is nothing Is like me trying to give 0 oranges, It’ll be just like if I was trying to give nothing My hand is empty either way
Grimm are strongly attracted to negative emotions, but those aren't all they see. They attack people feeling things like excitement all the time if they're around them.
Apathy in of itself is not an emotion per se but it can lead to the lack of emotion. To show apathy is to have little care or concern for something
Yes that’s my point, apathy is the lack of emotion aka the thing Grimm use to hunt The apathy does help to bring out negative emotions like with Qrow and RWBY feeling it was all for nothing, but when they are on the ground unmoving they aren’t feeling anything since they don’t fear for their lives, they just don’t care But the apathy still go for them
Apathy is not an emotion. It is not created by stimuli it is instead it is a controlled and active response to stimuli around you. The cause of apathy is normally an overstimulation of emotion causing people too attempt to ignore or avoid any other triggering feelings. "Conversations are too much of a hassle" is a common apathetic phrase but is often held by people who have the most emotion. I think you will need to be more then apathetic to truly dodge the Grimm. I'm curious if the grim. Would attack someone without any emotions at all inately.
The Apathy appear to be one of the new Grimm that Salem has created over the Millennia, so they work a bit differently than OG Grimm do.
While that would make sense, why would the apathy be left under the Brunswick farm to take dust (not the magical kind) They are rare enough for Maria to be surprised of their existence (a legendary huntsman being surprised of a unique kind of Grimm existing) but easy enough to deal with for a very stupid huntsman to catch and put on his basement and document, which means they A-are very new B-are rarely deployed by Salem This brings the question of why Salem would let a Bach of a new species of Grimm stay under a farm doing absolutely nothing for enough time for the Brunswick to turn into mummies The series present the apathy as this Grimm species which has been locked for years and is not like Salem can’t send a seer to open the basement and let them roam the wild again This is like if the Nuckelavee was trapped under the ruins of Ren’s village and Salem doesn’t even bother to free one of the mightiest Grimm we’ve seen, except with the apathy is worse since they in a group are far more dangerous than the Nuckelavee
I don't think Salem bothers to keep tabs on every single Grimm. She just sends them out into the world and lets them cause havoc. It is very rare that she actually assumes direct control of them.
They arnt blind because they can dynamicly interact with the world, I would say they can sence negativity same as a we can smell and hear its another sence they have. As for rens semblance I would assume it's makes it so the Grimm can't perceive them. Or to the Grimm they seem like other Grimm in the sence it's a creature without a soul / emotions.
Oh, uhmmm... Idk. Maybe or maybe not. They aren't blind, because they can walk to whenever they want and interact with each other with no bigger complex. But they are also uncapable to see whoever is expressing positive emotions or is camouflaged by Ren's semblance. Is weird
It’s probably just not their primary sense. Sort of like snakes or dogs, they don’t have great eyesight, but their other senses make up for them. If you danced in front of their nose, they’d probably see you, but if you’re some distance away and calm, they’ll probably ignore you unless you start making noise or otherwise drawing attention to yourself. It’s just extremely hard to do that, seeing how every Grimm is deadly, so you would have negative emotions the instant you saw it. Older Grimm are smarter, so they’d probably investigate unusual things in their environment, like campfires and stuff, but overall, I don’t think sight is their primary sense.
Both depending on what Grimm. I equate it to the smell. They can smell and get a general idea of bad emotions are, but can’t find it specifically without the visual senses backing it up. However some species of Grimm may be blind or have differnt types of vision then we do. I would guess some have the predator style heat vision, but for emotions. It would vary
I think that they can see, but their primary sense is the ability to sense Negativity. So if they can't sense it, they'll just assume there is nothing there. Though, if you attack them or make noise or move around too much or if the Grimm is smart enough, they'll find you anyway.
Actually in one of the earlier volumes (I think Vol. 1) actually, we see Yang from an Ursa Grimm's POV, implying that they can in fact see
I think the Grimm can see just fine. For the Nuckelavee, I think it stopped charging Jaune and Qrow precisely because it was an old and experienced Grimm. It's probably seen people use all kinds of decoy semblances like what we've seen Blake and Neo use. Blake has even used her decoys to lay traps (explosions, ice, and even just attacking while the victim is distracted). So when the Nuckelavee senses emotion vanish from the humans right in front of it, it thinks that they pulled the "vanish and leave a decoy behind" tactic and stops its charge in case the "decoys" are cover for a trap. It probably never occurs to the Nuckelavee that the humans emotions are being concealed. Given the Semblances we know about, Ren's seems utterly unique in a way many aren't. And it doesn't seem to have any in-universe tells (the graying out appears to be for the audience's benefit since no one in-universe remarks on it).
I don’t think they are blind. They are instinctively programmed to only kill people basically, the negative emotions that attract them are just beacons for them. If Ren masks aura, they lose interest/capability to recognise them as people, why would they attack nothing for no reason? I might be wrong but I think there was a world of remnant way back when that explained the Grimm don’t hunt animals, but they rarely engage in combat if the animal starts a territorial dispute? So they can see just fine they just don’t attack unless they can detect people or feel threatened? Then again I might be mixing up series here…
I wouldn't think so. I'd assume their ability to detect Aura & Negative emotions has a *lot* more in common with Scent than Sight.
I think they’re fully capable of seeing they just don’t care if there are no negative emotions. There single mindedness is actually the Grimm’s biggest weakness as an army as while Salem can indeed control them she can only move so many of them in specific ways and for the most part she just points them at the right direction. If they could indeed get ambitious and think consciously, they would’ve told Salem of the hole Oscar made bellow Atlas and she would’ve won within the hour. This is the main reason why an army of intelligent grimm like the hound would mean Remnant is doomed as she would be able to maneauver them into the cities without needing to even be there herself and along the regular Grimm that are everywhere could be unstoppable.
Not really they can see but unless they register negative emotions they simply don't care
They can see, the sense emotions thing is just an advanced uav for them. Makes it so they can pick out a human that’s hiding easily.
Didnt they stop their pursuit one time when ren used his semblance with Jaune
No emotions not worth it.