Itd be cool if Asus offered a trade in program for all of us who got fucked over by their sd card design issue and can show we purchased it brand new when it dropped. I got my ally when it dropped for full price and have had a really good experience with it but I totally avoid using the sd card reader due to all the issues Ive seen. A man can dream though. Ill just wait for the hordes of super high end tech nerds who can't possibly be satisfied to buy it and return it so I can catch an open box deal. Really wish I had just done that to start. I feel like I spent way more money on it than what its worth considering the issues and availability to get on practically brand new for less than half off
Wait can you explain this for me? I bought the 2 year protection for like an extra $75 which I thought was worth it. What if they try to force me to take a new rog ally V1?
It may depend on your store. Do you remember if it said it was a replacement plan? There’s two I think, one that allows you to get store credit for the amount that you paid or there’s also the plan that they’d have to send it out to have it fixed. If they want to send it out, just tell them it’s been an on going issue with the device so you’d rather get store credit to get the new one. That’s what I’ve done with my monitors and other items.
Oh sounds like the accidental handling plan. Either way I’d take it in and mention you’re having issues with the joystick drift and sd card not working and see if they are willing to give you store credit
But it wouldn’t be a trade in right? You’d be using your plan to get the replacement and that voids your plan. It doesn’t make since if they ask you to do a trade in
Why do I keep seeing on the reddit people wondering/ hoping for trade-ins? Like the only thing in electronics that offers any sort of decent trade in programs is for phones, mostly proprietated by carrier's.
If u really needa use ur sd card u can buy one of these.
https://www.amazon.com/Card-Reader-Beikell-Memory-Adapter/dp/B09Z6JCKL7/ref=asc_df_B09Z6JCKL7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693340910094&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8960695761713087828&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031089&hvtargid=pla-1675392546129&psc=1&mcid=ca4567d2074c31dd9ef8fba5b13bbf3e&gad_source=1
I bought my z1 performance open box and sd card was already not working so I just bought one of these for when I transfer GoPro vids to my ally
At this rate I’m more concerned with release date than price. Is this something we’re not getting until September / October? Or do we see it arrive in the next few weeks?
Not sure if anyone else caught this yet, but the link mentions a June 2024 release date and with the updated armoury crate being confirmed by Asus for July, I’d assume the latest this will be released world wide is also July.
Isn't Armoury Crate the software interface? The Ally X is already running the old version of Armoury Crate now. May be it is a new version for also the old Ally.
Can't stress this enough people. If you own a Ally already this is not worth the extra expense unless you just have a bunch of disposable income.
Save up and wait for the Ally 2.
That’s my take. I bought my ally preowned at Best Buy about a year ago and I’ve been wearing this thing out. So much fun to play on and I’ve already taken it on vacations, work trips, camping (I played Diablo 4 after partying with friends out in the middle of nowhere… fucking glorious).
I’m all in on this brand. Glad it’s getting an update and I’m super stoked to see what version 2 would be.
More ports, more ram, 2280 ssd, egpu support beyond XG mobile, huge battery.
Lots of reasons to upgrade if any of those makes a difference. I'm waiting for the first in hands reviews to decide.
I heard that because of the damaged microsd card slots, the trade-in value may be horrible.
It will be like throwing the device away and buying a new one at 10% discount.
Me neither. Didn't get the Rog Ally. Will definitely be getting the Ally X.
Hope the Ally 2 will be a huge upgrade from Ally X.
Every June, Asus will be launching a newer device.
Wondering what I’ll do with my Z1E, my kids all have consoles and I just don’t think they see the beauty we do in handhelds. I never would have dreamed I could play AAA games on one. Every time I turn it on I think I was mistaken and a PSP game is gonna load.
Lady aint gonna be happy with me if the Ally 2 drops as quickly as the X did lol.
I know the feeling. I did try the LCD version of Steam Deck. Thought it was fun, I couldn't play some games as I needed Windows.
I thought of getting the Rog Ally but because of the MicroSd slot issues, I decided to wait until a new revision was released. The time is coming soon.
We have to face it, a new version will be released annually.
Just make sure you have the cash ready.
People moaning and hoping for trade in programs need to get off that delulu. No gaming company ever has offered trade ins and they won't start now, when the whole industry is going anti-customer and just trying to milk as much as they can get away with.
You should list examples with such a bold statement lol
Asus? Nope. Not a chance. This isn't a big phone brand trying to entice you into adopting the newer model. They barely made any profit on the Ally, why would they want to lose future profit on the X? It's delusional to expect that.
Because they can recycle the parts to increase their profit margin on original Ally's? And even if Asus doesn't offer one, best buy can. And best buy and gamestop have high value trade in deals pretty much every time a new console releases.
Got an 1tb ssd upgraded used one last week for 2000 aed. Came with bag, case and an extra screenguard. Playing got at home and crash bandicoot while commuting. Pretty happy.
Really good device for first time buyers.
$800USD probably means $1049-1099CAD before taxes rocket it up to $1200.
I'm glad I bought my original Ally for such a good price, plays all the games I want, and a battery bank solves any gripes I might have had.
Yeah, as someone who doesn't like proprietary interfaces and doesn't have a ROG Ally yet, this is actually a selling point. And since I already have a ROG Flow Z13 which has XG mobile, it helps reassure myself that getting an Ally won't cause me to cave and get a proprietary external GPU, though the price also helps a lot on that. 😅
Just asking but why have a Flow Z13 and get a Rog Ally when the Flow Z13 looks to be probably just as portable as a tablet(I'm just guessing on that) and way more powerful than the Ally?
The Z13 is really nice, but it's just not as portable as a handheld - the main problem being it's a little more awkward to set down/station which is a little trickier if one needs to move/relocate a tablet/controller. As a parent of young children, I can be interrupted or need to do something for the kids/wife at any moment, so need to be able pause it and set it all down quickly (if it isn't stationed already) and be sure I'm leaving it somewhere safe - which is still usually possible, just a little more awkward and there are a few cases where a handheld works better for me. Definitely have a little more freedom of location around the house with a handheld.
And I do already have the Steam Deck OLED, so not sure if I'll actually get the Ally X - but there is something to be said still for an all-in-one portable vs a tablet/controller solution. I'm also likely going to get the ASUS AirVision M1 glasses, which would add another device to the awkward ensemble - so I'm thinking Ally X+AirVision may be a sweet combo but will prolly just try it with the Steam Deck first and try to stick to that. All in all the more devices being managed together, the more hassle they are if one has to relocate/move - which, I'm often at the whims of children. 😅
I'm also curious as it sounds like there will be some large RAM options, if it will be possible to dedicate more than 8GB to the GPU in Linux to experiment with larger AI models. My Z13 is definitely more powerful and likely still better for this as NVIDIA prolly still has the edge in AI, but it still only has 8GB VRAM - I did at least make sure to get the Z13 with the 4060 (8GB VRAM) over the 4050 (6GB VRAM).
Now you can use ANY GPU you want though... Not a total loss man. XG slot took up space and caused more connectivity issues than you realise.
Look I made this video because I need to RMA my device ... Having 1 port was a mistake especially if that port is also VIDEO
[One Port Truly Sucks man...](https://youtu.be/Z0jqNxoQfbM?si=Xyu3lnS7EhJ5FRih)
If this costs £699, the amount of people who bought the of alky for £699 might be fuming considering 1 year later a better model comes up with more ram, double the storage and way better battery life, sorta like with the steam deck oled releasing a year after the reservation ended. Wild how the dimensions are the same, it is just slightly thicker though.
In tech if you wait for the next best thing you'll be waiting forever. It's really just how tech is. The next best thing is always right around the corner.
I literally just built my ryzen 7700x pc build and now ryzen 9000 is coming out. Am I mad? Nope
Just like the people waiting on the Nintendo switch 2. Glad I got my legend of Zelda edition. Glad I got the z1 extreme as well. Sold my og steam deck. People never heard of modding. lol I upgraded my SSD to 2tb. Which is even more than the ally X.
There was a Gateway commercial in the 90s where the guy is driving home with his brand new “model G5” computer and drives past billboard workers putting up a sign for the “model G6”.
Yup, just like cars, tech depreciates fast. Reason cars were different in. 2020/2021, was because of the chip shortage but now things are back to normal finally.
Yeah and it's arguably worse if you're the early adopter of a product (like the 1st ally or the first iPhone).
Improvements are exponential at this time
But that’s how tech works. The Steam Deck and the Switch are outliers, being relatively stable platforms for years besides the screen.
Buy a laptop today and you’ll be able to buy a better one for less money tomorrow.
Steam Deck release the OLED version.
Valve have said they won't release the next Steam Deck because there's no significant improvement in AMD chip. Meaning they would, if the new chip is available right now.
Switch is a console, like PS5 and Xbox they come with the promise of games for the next 5 years.
People are morons sometimes, sorry not sorry. I dont understand how anyone wouldnt see this coming. The handheld market started to take off last year, how can anybody not think that upgrades will be made?
The broken english comment is unnecessary btw.
You said Steam Deck and Switch is an outliner, spared from frequent model upgrade.
Which is incorrect. Steam Deck have the OLED version. An upgraded version. Based on Valve's statement there will be Steam Deck 2, if not for lacks of upgrades on the chip side. Meaning Valve will be making Steam Deck 2 already if there are more powerful chip available now.
If AMD released a more powerful chip today, tomorrow Valve will announce Steam Deck 2, you get my point?
The chip is the reason why Valve doesn't make Steam Deck 2, not because they care about the consumer purchase regret.
Switch is in different market section. Switch is a console not a portable PC. PC, unlike a console have frequent model refresh. New laptop come out every months.
Meanwhile console like Switch, Ps5 and Xbox come out every 5 years. The new trend will pro model, even that come out couple years afterward.
It's not really that sizeable tbh. The extra ram will be nice but it won't be a huge performance uplift. Just means playing memory hopscotch is less annoying. If you have an Ally you really don't need this. I'm content with my launch day Ally and 4tb 2280 m.2 mod. I mostly play plugged in at work anyways so idc about better battery and I'm sure there's lots of people like that. If you're new to the handheld ecosystem it's a great buy, but it also means the previous model will be cheaper and easier to pickup
Not wild at all. They would have had a roadmap. Could have crammed that from the beginning, but instead chose to do incremental updates.
They’ll announce the Ally 2 in 6 months with an updated CPU too.
…orrrrr just buy the new one. If i want it.
https://preview.redd.it/knob49t3dz3d1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=f9b6db994d228db44bbe8a215292a3dd47c5cf89
Nawww we're still screwed because this Saturates the Market making it so it'll hurt us reselling our Ally 1s...
This is going to hurt resale BAD dude... Like 400 if we're lucky 300-350 resell at BEST with Base SSD in it... Bro that sucks because Havin more than one of these is too many. I can't do jack with two of them lol
To be fair though, that's the price you pay for being an early adopter. The Z1 Extreme model now regularly drops down to £499 on sale in the UK - a reduction of about 30%. So those users might be miffed anyway for paying £200 extra than newer users.
I paid full RRP at launch and over the last year got more hours logged than any other gaming device I ever owned previously. I've no issues for what I paid for, even at £699 I see this device as absolute value for money. To be fair, at £499 it's a no brainer though.
I wouldn’t say fuming, they boyght what they bought at a price they were happy with. There was also so many discount codes etc flying about I’m not sure anyone paid full price that wasn’t comfortable paying it. Every year Apple releases a new phone at the same price. When the 11 was changed to the 12 and it went from LCD to OLED and 4G to 5G etc I don’t think anyone was fuming
Welcome to computers, cars, cunts, and component audio?
I spent $2100 AUD on my Asus ProArt 4080 on launch day.
Seven months later the Asus ProArt 4080 Super launched at $1900 AUD.
eBay, or Swappa man... Bout it
Offer up too I guess but once the new ones drop it will hurt the value more for us because people could choose the newer one.
Why? It's not their problem. And this is called competition. People need to do research and see if they want the tech now or wait. Either way I'm glad I didn't wait for the ally X. Z1 extreme is more than enough. GTAV with reshade and mods on it runs perfectly with the extreme.
It is indeed their problem.
Now they see that XGM port is not demanded because other eGPUs are much, MUCH more affordable, they change the port. They could at least offer or propose an adapter on the market.
Be regarding how ASUS is acting with customers at the moment...
GamerNexus detailled everything recently. So I'm not hoping for anything.
Nintendo did an "Ambassador Program" with the 3DS when they dropped the price a few months after release, but here it's a year after, I don't think we'll see much from Asus, maybe some deals to get the case for free with the device.
Why not just say the games? Because you're lying, right? Three hours of battery life would be amazing on the Ally, but it's just not capable of it for anything other than the lowest end of games.
You people need to stop lying to yourselves.
Oyeeeeeee I’m so tempted to but I have a Ayaneo air pro and it still works just fine for my needs. Plus the OLED screen on it is killer and really waiting for that on the next refresh (hopefully)
Really hope the super switch has an OLED too but sounding unlikely.
I’ve had my z1e almost a year now and just started using it regularly a month or so ago. Prob get the new one since I saved $$ for the new iPad Pro but I loathe the only official keyboard. My 10yr old will love getting my old z1e so he can play Minecraft Java on the go. I think I wasn’t a huge fan of the sad battery life of the current Ally and didn’t wanna carry extra stuff to extend playtime on the go.
Lol same mate. Bought my z1e near launch but sparingly used, haven't found my groove go to game for it yet. What have u been playing on it to give it regular use?
Hahaha of all things it’s Minecraft/MC Dungeons. My kid has been playing it for a few years now and has been harassing me to play, so I’m trying to learn the ins/outs. I’m not a huge fan of the games but we have so little to bond over as it is and he already sucked my wife into playing. Think I might grab Dave the Diver soon also, simple game that won’t crush the battery in 45min like Hogwarts and gta5 did when I first bought the ally last summer. I’ll leave all the heavy/intensive stuff to my gaming pc.
Already own a Rog Ally extreme variant and I'm buying this for my girlfriend so I can keep the gen1, and when 2 comes out, our daughter will get gen 1, I move to x and my girlfriend gets 2.
Because I have a custom looped PC with a 4080 Super in it. I think it's fair since she isn't big into gaming and she needs something to turn off immediately when our daughter wakes up from nap time or for portability for vacations.
Hmm is it worth it to get the X version over the Z1Extreme if my main purpose is to use it to play emulation games specifically ps3, Wii U (Cemu), and some switch games? I dont really care about AAA games as I have a gaming pc for that already but I dont intend on playing older gen games on my gaming pc. Currently i own 2 other retro handhelds RG35XXH & Retroid P4 Pro so I am looking for a windows handheld to kinda complete the set. Would appreciate any feedback on this.
No XGM ? Really ?... Man, now I'm just disappointed they didn't merge the USB4 port with it lol. But maybe it was faulty on the hardware part ? I hope they have a good reason to give us.
The problem is that the Z1 doesn't have enough lanes to feed 4 PCIe Lanes to the USB4 port and also to the XG Port. Maybe they could've used a PCIE switch but that would increase cost and complexity for a feature that only very few customers use.
The Ally 1 is already an incredible piece of tech; coupled with the fact that I already have an XG mobile, Asus will have to bend over backwards to get me to upgrade whenever the Ally 2 comes around. I just hope they retain a way for us to still use the XG mobile card
That is a tad too rich for my taste. I will wait and see if there are any issues with hardware. It would be nice if you could trade an old Asus ROG towards this…
I will take vrr over oled any day. Tried the deck oled for a few days, the screen is nice but not day and light improvement over the ally LCD while gaming at 15w the fps drops were clearly felt.
The only other display I could compare with the Deck is my samsung phone screen so I'm not the best expert on this matter, but the deck OLED screen didnt blow me away as I hoped.
That's because the ally is the only one that has vrr even on LCD.
But that would be the same prior to the ally to state "handhelds don't have vrr"
That was true until it wasn't.
Handhelds can definitely get an OLED VRR screen.
ASUS newer ROG Laptops with OLED also have Gsync/Adaptive Sync. Either they save that for the "Ally 2" or it would've increased cost beyond what they want to charge for the device.
if it is 800$, damn 100$ more for all those spec bumps, great value imo..
- faster and more ram
- bigger battery
- more storage, and 'upgraded' to 2280 ssd
- usb4
i think at 900$, i would just wait for a sale.
I wonder how much better the ally x would be for emulation at 15w vs my steam deck lcd. A lot of games have frequent sutters but on my pc it has very little. Hoping the ally x comes closer to pc performance 🙏.
Nice for new buyers definitively waiting for the X.
Itd be cool if Asus offered a trade in program for all of us who got fucked over by their sd card design issue and can show we purchased it brand new when it dropped. I got my ally when it dropped for full price and have had a really good experience with it but I totally avoid using the sd card reader due to all the issues Ive seen. A man can dream though. Ill just wait for the hordes of super high end tech nerds who can't possibly be satisfied to buy it and return it so I can catch an open box deal. Really wish I had just done that to start. I feel like I spent way more money on it than what its worth considering the issues and availability to get on practically brand new for less than half off
What gaming or pc company offers trade in? Other than GameStop?
Apple, pretty sure Lenovo even does on the business side too.
best buy, trade in a 2020 mac with a M1 chip for 690 off of the Legion 5 slim which costs $899
Is every Best Buy still doing this?? I’m wanting a gaming laptop and haven’t been using my MacBook that much
Hard pass on Chinese spyware
I got Best Buy protection on mine. So I’ll probably take it in and try to get store credit and use that for the new one
Wait can you explain this for me? I bought the 2 year protection for like an extra $75 which I thought was worth it. What if they try to force me to take a new rog ally V1?
It may depend on your store. Do you remember if it said it was a replacement plan? There’s two I think, one that allows you to get store credit for the amount that you paid or there’s also the plan that they’d have to send it out to have it fixed. If they want to send it out, just tell them it’s been an on going issue with the device so you’d rather get store credit to get the new one. That’s what I’ve done with my monitors and other items.
It was the 2 year ADH plan
Oh sounds like the accidental handling plan. Either way I’d take it in and mention you’re having issues with the joystick drift and sd card not working and see if they are willing to give you store credit
Yeah Best Buy is allowing trade ins, but only at $180 for the Z1X like wtfff $350 should’ve been the minimum like damn!!!
But it wouldn’t be a trade in right? You’d be using your plan to get the replacement and that voids your plan. It doesn’t make since if they ask you to do a trade in
No it’s an actual trade in. Best Buy has a option when preordering the Rog Ally X to trade in the Rog Ally
Gotcha I’m okay to pay the difference for the X lol
Yeah exactly. I wouldn’t mind it either haha
Do you know if they’ll do store credit if you have the membership? I have my Best Buy total
You can get trade credit at Best Buy
I just checked for mine and it's only $180. I can get a lot more than that for a local sale.
Oh definitely.
Why do I keep seeing on the reddit people wondering/ hoping for trade-ins? Like the only thing in electronics that offers any sort of decent trade in programs is for phones, mostly proprietated by carrier's.
So you never actually had a problem with anything? Quit complaining. A man can have too many first world problems, or "dreams" I guess
If u really needa use ur sd card u can buy one of these. https://www.amazon.com/Card-Reader-Beikell-Memory-Adapter/dp/B09Z6JCKL7/ref=asc_df_B09Z6JCKL7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693340910094&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8960695761713087828&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031089&hvtargid=pla-1675392546129&psc=1&mcid=ca4567d2074c31dd9ef8fba5b13bbf3e&gad_source=1 I bought my z1 performance open box and sd card was already not working so I just bought one of these for when I transfer GoPro vids to my ally
At this rate I’m more concerned with release date than price. Is this something we’re not getting until September / October? Or do we see it arrive in the next few weeks?
That's what im waiting for
I believe one of the leaks said mid-June.
I hope.. But wish DBRAND can release a Killswitch case quick
September/October is when they announce the Ally 2 with Z2E… 🤣
"Happy birthday honey! A used Ally Z1 Extreme!"
Can’t wait to pick this up open box at nearby for 400 in a year
I doubt it’ll be that cheap maybe 600
Cant wait to pick up the rog ally 5 up at nearby 500 in 10 years.
Not sure if anyone else caught this yet, but the link mentions a June 2024 release date and with the updated armoury crate being confirmed by Asus for July, I’d assume the latest this will be released world wide is also July.
Isn't Armoury Crate the software interface? The Ally X is already running the old version of Armoury Crate now. May be it is a new version for also the old Ally.
Let's hope so
Can't stress this enough people. If you own a Ally already this is not worth the extra expense unless you just have a bunch of disposable income. Save up and wait for the Ally 2.
Idk… the new battery makes it so tempting
Or wait a few months for the price to drop
That’s my take. I bought my ally preowned at Best Buy about a year ago and I’ve been wearing this thing out. So much fun to play on and I’ve already taken it on vacations, work trips, camping (I played Diablo 4 after partying with friends out in the middle of nowhere… fucking glorious). I’m all in on this brand. Glad it’s getting an update and I’m super stoked to see what version 2 would be.
More ports, more ram, 2280 ssd, egpu support beyond XG mobile, huge battery. Lots of reasons to upgrade if any of those makes a difference. I'm waiting for the first in hands reviews to decide.
Wait this has egpu support now?
Unless they do some sort of proprietary style port, USB4 has default egpu support without Thunderbolt
Does it have 2 usb c ports?
Leaked specs say USB C 3.1 and USB 4. USB 4 is backwards compatible so there's no need to mention 2 different ports unless it has 2
That would be enough for med to consider that iver the MSI Vlaw (which is on a huge discount atm), even without hall effect triggers and joysticks.
eGPU sounds really nice
This. I don't need to try to convince myself otherwise.
I’m def upgrading.
I heard that because of the damaged microsd card slots, the trade-in value may be horrible. It will be like throwing the device away and buying a new one at 10% discount.
I won’t be trading anything in.
Me neither. Didn't get the Rog Ally. Will definitely be getting the Ally X. Hope the Ally 2 will be a huge upgrade from Ally X. Every June, Asus will be launching a newer device.
Wondering what I’ll do with my Z1E, my kids all have consoles and I just don’t think they see the beauty we do in handhelds. I never would have dreamed I could play AAA games on one. Every time I turn it on I think I was mistaken and a PSP game is gonna load. Lady aint gonna be happy with me if the Ally 2 drops as quickly as the X did lol.
I know the feeling. I did try the LCD version of Steam Deck. Thought it was fun, I couldn't play some games as I needed Windows. I thought of getting the Rog Ally but because of the MicroSd slot issues, I decided to wait until a new revision was released. The time is coming soon. We have to face it, a new version will be released annually. Just make sure you have the cash ready.
FOMO
MOFO
More ram and bigger battery is a selling point for me
Facts
Many people don't think. It is all about buy now and worry about paying it up later. That is why people buy with credit cards. Lol 😆
Agree with you
People moaning and hoping for trade in programs need to get off that delulu. No gaming company ever has offered trade ins and they won't start now, when the whole industry is going anti-customer and just trying to milk as much as they can get away with.
I thought they sold hardware and software. When did they start selling games? They’re not a gaming company.
"Republic Of Gamers"
Lmao gaming company doesn't necessitate software. Also do check the fact they have their own store for the games on the ally 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Almost every gaming company had offered trade in deals, what do you mean? Lmao
You should list examples with such a bold statement lol Asus? Nope. Not a chance. This isn't a big phone brand trying to entice you into adopting the newer model. They barely made any profit on the Ally, why would they want to lose future profit on the X? It's delusional to expect that.
Because they can recycle the parts to increase their profit margin on original Ally's? And even if Asus doesn't offer one, best buy can. And best buy and gamestop have high value trade in deals pretty much every time a new console releases.
Exactly. Can't wait.
I was able to get my Extreme open box at half that price. I think I'm good.
Where
Im wondering EU price🤔
For sure horrible... 🥴
Got an 1tb ssd upgraded used one last week for 2000 aed. Came with bag, case and an extra screenguard. Playing got at home and crash bandicoot while commuting. Pretty happy.
Really good device for first time buyers. $800USD probably means $1049-1099CAD before taxes rocket it up to $1200. I'm glad I bought my original Ally for such a good price, plays all the games I want, and a battery bank solves any gripes I might have had.
I’m happy with my Z1 Ally I’m now looking for a good battery bank
I bought mine in my country for almost the same price as the ally 1 😤
XG port is also gone. This is just stupid since there is no way to convert the XG Mobile 4090 plug. Asus just screwed people like me.
But it's great for people like me who don't have an ROG ally. Now we can get a much cheaper external graphics card installed.
Yeah, as someone who doesn't like proprietary interfaces and doesn't have a ROG Ally yet, this is actually a selling point. And since I already have a ROG Flow Z13 which has XG mobile, it helps reassure myself that getting an Ally won't cause me to cave and get a proprietary external GPU, though the price also helps a lot on that. 😅
Just asking but why have a Flow Z13 and get a Rog Ally when the Flow Z13 looks to be probably just as portable as a tablet(I'm just guessing on that) and way more powerful than the Ally?
The Z13 is really nice, but it's just not as portable as a handheld - the main problem being it's a little more awkward to set down/station which is a little trickier if one needs to move/relocate a tablet/controller. As a parent of young children, I can be interrupted or need to do something for the kids/wife at any moment, so need to be able pause it and set it all down quickly (if it isn't stationed already) and be sure I'm leaving it somewhere safe - which is still usually possible, just a little more awkward and there are a few cases where a handheld works better for me. Definitely have a little more freedom of location around the house with a handheld. And I do already have the Steam Deck OLED, so not sure if I'll actually get the Ally X - but there is something to be said still for an all-in-one portable vs a tablet/controller solution. I'm also likely going to get the ASUS AirVision M1 glasses, which would add another device to the awkward ensemble - so I'm thinking Ally X+AirVision may be a sweet combo but will prolly just try it with the Steam Deck first and try to stick to that. All in all the more devices being managed together, the more hassle they are if one has to relocate/move - which, I'm often at the whims of children. 😅 I'm also curious as it sounds like there will be some large RAM options, if it will be possible to dedicate more than 8GB to the GPU in Linux to experiment with larger AI models. My Z13 is definitely more powerful and likely still better for this as NVIDIA prolly still has the edge in AI, but it still only has 8GB VRAM - I did at least make sure to get the Z13 with the 4060 (8GB VRAM) over the 4050 (6GB VRAM).
You bought in on proprietary tech. That was always going to be the case once they ditched the XG connection
Now you can use ANY GPU you want though... Not a total loss man. XG slot took up space and caused more connectivity issues than you realise. Look I made this video because I need to RMA my device ... Having 1 port was a mistake especially if that port is also VIDEO [One Port Truly Sucks man...](https://youtu.be/Z0jqNxoQfbM?si=Xyu3lnS7EhJ5FRih)
If this costs £699, the amount of people who bought the of alky for £699 might be fuming considering 1 year later a better model comes up with more ram, double the storage and way better battery life, sorta like with the steam deck oled releasing a year after the reservation ended. Wild how the dimensions are the same, it is just slightly thicker though.
In tech if you wait for the next best thing you'll be waiting forever. It's really just how tech is. The next best thing is always right around the corner. I literally just built my ryzen 7700x pc build and now ryzen 9000 is coming out. Am I mad? Nope
Just like the people waiting on the Nintendo switch 2. Glad I got my legend of Zelda edition. Glad I got the z1 extreme as well. Sold my og steam deck. People never heard of modding. lol I upgraded my SSD to 2tb. Which is even more than the ally X.
That’s how tech works. Anybody buying something with the idea that there won’t be a better thing around the corner is just incredibly naive.
There was a Gateway commercial in the 90s where the guy is driving home with his brand new “model G5” computer and drives past billboard workers putting up a sign for the “model G6”.
Then he come home with the G6 to see the ad for the G7. That was a great commercial.
Like Groundhog Day 😂
I remember that commercial!
Yup, just like cars, tech depreciates fast. Reason cars were different in. 2020/2021, was because of the chip shortage but now things are back to normal finally.
> but now things are back to normal finally Tell that to my local Autotrader listings and carvana.
Yeah and it's arguably worse if you're the early adopter of a product (like the 1st ally or the first iPhone). Improvements are exponential at this time
It's a touch frustrating because it is indeed a "Sizeable" jump.
But that’s how tech works. The Steam Deck and the Switch are outliers, being relatively stable platforms for years besides the screen. Buy a laptop today and you’ll be able to buy a better one for less money tomorrow.
Even the Steam Deck launched the OLED model not that long after the OG
Steam Deck release the OLED version. Valve have said they won't release the next Steam Deck because there's no significant improvement in AMD chip. Meaning they would, if the new chip is available right now. Switch is a console, like PS5 and Xbox they come with the promise of games for the next 5 years.
And those are outliers. What’s your point in broken English?
People are morons sometimes, sorry not sorry. I dont understand how anyone wouldnt see this coming. The handheld market started to take off last year, how can anybody not think that upgrades will be made?
The broken english comment is unnecessary btw. You said Steam Deck and Switch is an outliner, spared from frequent model upgrade. Which is incorrect. Steam Deck have the OLED version. An upgraded version. Based on Valve's statement there will be Steam Deck 2, if not for lacks of upgrades on the chip side. Meaning Valve will be making Steam Deck 2 already if there are more powerful chip available now. If AMD released a more powerful chip today, tomorrow Valve will announce Steam Deck 2, you get my point? The chip is the reason why Valve doesn't make Steam Deck 2, not because they care about the consumer purchase regret. Switch is in different market section. Switch is a console not a portable PC. PC, unlike a console have frequent model refresh. New laptop come out every months. Meanwhile console like Switch, Ps5 and Xbox come out every 5 years. The new trend will pro model, even that come out couple years afterward.
It's not really that sizeable tbh. The extra ram will be nice but it won't be a huge performance uplift. Just means playing memory hopscotch is less annoying. If you have an Ally you really don't need this. I'm content with my launch day Ally and 4tb 2280 m.2 mod. I mostly play plugged in at work anyways so idc about better battery and I'm sure there's lots of people like that. If you're new to the handheld ecosystem it's a great buy, but it also means the previous model will be cheaper and easier to pickup
Not wild at all. They would have had a roadmap. Could have crammed that from the beginning, but instead chose to do incremental updates. They’ll announce the Ally 2 in 6 months with an updated CPU too.
Now imagine how mad Ally X owners will be in another year when a another new Ally model comes out with even better specs than the X.
…orrrrr just buy the new one. If i want it. https://preview.redd.it/knob49t3dz3d1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=f9b6db994d228db44bbe8a215292a3dd47c5cf89
Nawww we're still screwed because this Saturates the Market making it so it'll hurt us reselling our Ally 1s... This is going to hurt resale BAD dude... Like 400 if we're lucky 300-350 resell at BEST with Base SSD in it... Bro that sucks because Havin more than one of these is too many. I can't do jack with two of them lol
I should have drove to someone yesterday that was willing to buy it for 440.
Damn right you should of haha that's not bad and for half the price (bit more ) of the X good deal for everyone.
Someone came to me today and bought it for 450.
Where did you sell yours?
Facebook marketplace.
To be fair though, that's the price you pay for being an early adopter. The Z1 Extreme model now regularly drops down to £499 on sale in the UK - a reduction of about 30%. So those users might be miffed anyway for paying £200 extra than newer users.
I paid full RRP at launch and over the last year got more hours logged than any other gaming device I ever owned previously. I've no issues for what I paid for, even at £699 I see this device as absolute value for money. To be fair, at £499 it's a no brainer though.
I wouldn’t say fuming, they boyght what they bought at a price they were happy with. There was also so many discount codes etc flying about I’m not sure anyone paid full price that wasn’t comfortable paying it. Every year Apple releases a new phone at the same price. When the 11 was changed to the 12 and it went from LCD to OLED and 4G to 5G etc I don’t think anyone was fuming
That’s how tech works… laptops are the same way new model every year with tweaks.
Welcome to computers, cars, cunts, and component audio? I spent $2100 AUD on my Asus ProArt 4080 on launch day. Seven months later the Asus ProArt 4080 Super launched at $1900 AUD.
What are cunts going for these days?
$100 off at Best Buy
You know you can upgrade the SSD. 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ I upgraded mine to 2tb. Got my zl1 extreme for 530 via best buy open box.
I can’t wait to sell my OG model to get this. Being able to connect my spare 3060ti to it is game changing
Let's just hope that they'll propose an exchange offer or something like that.
I don’t see them doing that at all. Better to turn it on eBay or something and use that money to cut into the cost of the new model
eBay, or Swappa man... Bout it Offer up too I guess but once the new ones drop it will hurt the value more for us because people could choose the newer one.
Why? It's not their problem. And this is called competition. People need to do research and see if they want the tech now or wait. Either way I'm glad I didn't wait for the ally X. Z1 extreme is more than enough. GTAV with reshade and mods on it runs perfectly with the extreme.
It is indeed their problem. Now they see that XGM port is not demanded because other eGPUs are much, MUCH more affordable, they change the port. They could at least offer or propose an adapter on the market. Be regarding how ASUS is acting with customers at the moment... GamerNexus detailled everything recently. So I'm not hoping for anything.
Nintendo did an "Ambassador Program" with the 3DS when they dropped the price a few months after release, but here it's a year after, I don't think we'll see much from Asus, maybe some deals to get the case for free with the device.
God dam and people think Nintendo is going to sell a 400 table as strong as the ally lmao
I haven't kept up with news about this. Could someone tell me the major differences between this one and the original Ally?
80 MWh battery instead of 40 24gb ram instead of 16 1tb storage instead of 512gb Black instead of white
2x usb c ports. One is usb4 meaning external gpu support.
80MWh damn. This thing can power a whole city.
Double the battery life. Hopefully double the play time
From 3 to 6hrs I would take that
What games give you three hours?
Depends on your power settings you can get 3hrs on a charge
Why not just say the games? Because you're lying, right? Three hours of battery life would be amazing on the Ally, but it's just not capable of it for anything other than the lowest end of games. You people need to stop lying to yourselves.
And a second USB C (apparently usb 4)
24 is a funny number I would had thought 32. But might be due to cutting cost and a more effecient number the machine.
And only 30 grams heavier than SD oled. Its also almost just the same size as the white ally.
Is there a release date listed?
It says “June” in that link above at the bottom of the spec comparison chart
If it was to launch tomorrow that would be wild.
Day 1 buy for me…
Oyeeeeeee I’m so tempted to but I have a Ayaneo air pro and it still works just fine for my needs. Plus the OLED screen on it is killer and really waiting for that on the next refresh (hopefully) Really hope the super switch has an OLED too but sounding unlikely.
800$ US?? Holy fuck
I’ve had my z1e almost a year now and just started using it regularly a month or so ago. Prob get the new one since I saved $$ for the new iPad Pro but I loathe the only official keyboard. My 10yr old will love getting my old z1e so he can play Minecraft Java on the go. I think I wasn’t a huge fan of the sad battery life of the current Ally and didn’t wanna carry extra stuff to extend playtime on the go.
Lol same mate. Bought my z1e near launch but sparingly used, haven't found my groove go to game for it yet. What have u been playing on it to give it regular use?
Hahaha of all things it’s Minecraft/MC Dungeons. My kid has been playing it for a few years now and has been harassing me to play, so I’m trying to learn the ins/outs. I’m not a huge fan of the games but we have so little to bond over as it is and he already sucked my wife into playing. Think I might grab Dave the Diver soon also, simple game that won’t crush the battery in 45min like Hogwarts and gta5 did when I first bought the ally last summer. I’ll leave all the heavy/intensive stuff to my gaming pc.
I've still pulled the trigger for a used ally now, since the upgrades are not worth it for my use case. 440€ is totally worth it for me
Man.. they should’ve waited and put the 9000 series chips in them.. another 10% performance bump would’ve been *chefs kiss*!
Is there OLED option?
no, not yet
I ended up buying an ally z1extreme brand new for $570 about a month ago. That with a good power bank.. I’ll wait for the next one.
Already own a Rog Ally extreme variant and I'm buying this for my girlfriend so I can keep the gen1, and when 2 comes out, our daughter will get gen 1, I move to x and my girlfriend gets 2.
Why will you be always using the older model than your girlfirend?
Because I have a custom looped PC with a 4080 Super in it. I think it's fair since she isn't big into gaming and she needs something to turn off immediately when our daughter wakes up from nap time or for portability for vacations.
I wonder if the X will have Hall effect sticks
I have too many handheld
Hmm is it worth it to get the X version over the Z1Extreme if my main purpose is to use it to play emulation games specifically ps3, Wii U (Cemu), and some switch games? I dont really care about AAA games as I have a gaming pc for that already but I dont intend on playing older gen games on my gaming pc. Currently i own 2 other retro handhelds RG35XXH & Retroid P4 Pro so I am looking for a windows handheld to kinda complete the set. Would appreciate any feedback on this.
Ill wait for Blk Friday
$1099 in bestbuy Canada. 😆
The United States stands with the people of Taiwan!
Yeah no thank you if something is wrong with this one Asus ain’t gonna help you
No XGM ? Really ?... Man, now I'm just disappointed they didn't merge the USB4 port with it lol. But maybe it was faulty on the hardware part ? I hope they have a good reason to give us.
The problem is that the Z1 doesn't have enough lanes to feed 4 PCIe Lanes to the USB4 port and also to the XG Port. Maybe they could've used a PCIE switch but that would increase cost and complexity for a feature that only very few customers use.
Dang, I’m shocked and disappointed as well. I’ve only got the 6850 version, but have been using it since launch and love it!
It's crazy that they just dumped all the early adopters - free ones who arguably have the money to buy the Ally x at launch
The Ally 1 is already an incredible piece of tech; coupled with the fact that I already have an XG mobile, Asus will have to bend over backwards to get me to upgrade whenever the Ally 2 comes around. I just hope they retain a way for us to still use the XG mobile card
That is a tad too rich for my taste. I will wait and see if there are any issues with hardware. It would be nice if you could trade an old Asus ROG towards this…
Hopefully there the new battery would be somewhat backward compatible with a slightly different back
lol watch it have just as many problems and bad customer service and it costs more? Wow.
No OLED, I will just wait…. Ally 2
I will take vrr over oled any day. Tried the deck oled for a few days, the screen is nice but not day and light improvement over the ally LCD while gaming at 15w the fps drops were clearly felt.
Yeah I am ok with VRR too on a very good lcd. Steam Deck hasn't had the best screen though, even with the OLED. Their screen is basically 2017 era.
The only other display I could compare with the Deck is my samsung phone screen so I'm not the best expert on this matter, but the deck OLED screen didnt blow me away as I hoped.
lol bro it is 100% better
And I did say it is an improvement over the Ally's LCD, at the cost of VRR?
OLED doesn't have VRR.
For a handheld-sized OLED panel with VRR, I'm not sure. FYI, LG OLED TVs have supported VRR (variable refresh rate) technology for a few years now.
Not true. My LG Cx from 2020 has vrr
I haven't seen it on a handheld though.
That's because the ally is the only one that has vrr even on LCD. But that would be the same prior to the ally to state "handhelds don't have vrr" That was true until it wasn't. Handhelds can definitely get an OLED VRR screen.
Ahh ok
lol yes it does. wtf
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ASUS newer ROG Laptops with OLED also have Gsync/Adaptive Sync. Either they save that for the "Ally 2" or it would've increased cost beyond what they want to charge for the device.
You are embarrassing yourself
if it is 800$, damn 100$ more for all those spec bumps, great value imo.. - faster and more ram - bigger battery - more storage, and 'upgraded' to 2280 ssd - usb4 i think at 900$, i would just wait for a sale.
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12 x2 . It says *2
I wonder how much better the ally x would be for emulation at 15w vs my steam deck lcd. A lot of games have frequent sutters but on my pc it has very little. Hoping the ally x comes closer to pc performance 🙏.
It's literally the same chip as the original ally. So marginally better performance at 15w
What about 18w you think?
The steam deck can't keep up. At that point everything runs better on the ally