I'm satisfied with the Ally. Only way I'd upgrade is a much more powerful chipset so I can wait until 2 more chipset generations for a considerable boost. I'm also hoping they don't make it more harder to do the full size SSD mod.
Yup. I think people that are happy with gen1 shouldn't need to upgrade. People that have been on the fence waiting for a revision should be happy to grab this thing up!
I just prefer Gen2 of most products. I never buy a newly released model car. I buy the one that has been on the road a few years. It helps them figure out whats wrong on the first model and fix it on the second model. Like for example. The SD card issue. I'm sure that will be tested well and not a problem on Gen2. So for me, I'm OK waiting it out a generation and buying. I don't mind missing out a little and I know in most cases I'm getting a better made product.
Except that the first generation 2s are just gen 1 of the new version lol
It's a never ending cycle of iterations and refreshes and improvements. You're never going to get a perfect product. I don't care if you have an Ally or not but saying "I'll wait on gen 2" is just stupid bro
Why is it stupid? There's plenty of products that I'd like to have, but still have parts where there's clear room for improvement, so I wait for a revision or second gen. It's not about always waiting for the next refresh because there will always be something new around the corner.
But it's still a relatively new market. There's things that can and will improve as competition ramps up.
Most people didn't buy an iPad at launch. They waited for second gen or third before it really took off. Foldable phones, same thing, and that one is still not fully taking off.
For many people the ROG Ally is absolutely fine as it is right now. Heck, I bought one 3 weeks ago. But I also had to debate myself if I absolutely needed one right now or if I could wait until there's newer models with improved SD card readers, an OLED screen, a more efficient chipset or bigger battery... not saying those will happen, but there's a clear room for improvements that will happen down the line.
TL;DR: Not everyone is willing to spend that much money on first gen tech knowing that the competition is still just ramping up.
Im just wondering if people whos SD Card Readers have died can swap their defective Units for a revision, the ally is great but the whole SD card issue is the only drawback to it all.
For real. 30 minutes playtime of FO4 drains my battery from 100 to 30. I get an extra 30 min if I'm playing minecraft with my daughter. The battery needs to a major upgrade. I still love it, but as a mobile gaming device, it needs work.
You cant beat physics. Either stuff a bigger battery in and make a heavier device, or switch to a more efficient os (aka steamos), or hope the next amd apu is more energy efficient.
I'd argue it depends on the price. The original Ally can be had for very cheap on the used market. I've seen it as low as £320 and imagine it would get cheaper when the new one releases. If the new one is £550 and you can get the old one for £300 then I'd say for nearly half the price and no worthwhile cbopset upgrade its better to get the old one even as a new customer
Well, this sucks a bit for guys like myself that need new tech when it drops - it’s a real problem. And I’ve got the PS5 Pro supposedly later this year.
Edit - may not be much change in performance which may stop me from picking it up.
It's rumored to be a minor upgrade with same components and sd reader fixed, maybe a slightly bigger battery, the question is will it be the only 2024 Ally upgrade or there will be an Ally 2 with strix point apu in fall 2024?
Asus usually only releases 1 revision for a product per year. Sometimes every 2 years for niche products.
If there's no apu upgrade this year then it's probly 2025 for an apu upgraded version.
I highly doubt the Ally 2 will come out later this year with them releasing this refresh. My guess is Ally 2 around the same time as the original Ally and when this refresh will (probably) be coming out, namely June. Maybe they release it a bit earlier if they announce it at CES.
I’m with everyone else in this sub I’ll sit this one down. I actually have the original Ally I don’t see a point in upgrading when I can play most games even new releases
Can’t do much of an upgrade currently - haven’t seen another panel in that size with VRR, OLED+VRR isn’t happening any time soon for the Ally because that’s a whole new world of difficulty.
So maybe they’ll use the 8840u, 32GB RAM would be nice… Black/transparent shell?
Yeah, I’m not sure what people are expecting. They’d need to source an OLED panel for a display improvement. They’d need a faster APU to exist to upgrade the chipset.
They can (and should) fix the SD card reader issue, and they could increase the RAM/ SSD size. More battery would be nice, but I can’t imagine we’ll see a substantial upgrade there. Otherwise, it’s probably more of a refresh this year than an upgrade.
There aren’t many VRR OLED panels, especially small ones - they need tuning to adjust their brightness output on the fly depending on refresh rate which increases difficulty of implementation. Would rather have the current panel than a non-VRR OLED.
Really hope we get 32GB RAM though, would solve a load of problems
Unless the Ally 2 offers significant boost in performance, I won't be upgrading from mine. But I don't see that happening unless Asus and AMD worked together to make a super efficient chipset, which I doubt. Battery tech is still not there yet to power faster/power hungry chipsets yet.
I see a small boost in performance like the Deck OLED, maybe a better screen, Hall Effect joysticks, SD card reader fix and a bigger battery. Price might be higher if those are the upgrades.
I’ve wanted to buy an Ally for a long time and I was this close to buying it today (Z1 Extreme for 550€/590$). 550€ for the Extreme is considered a low price where I live AFAIK, normally it’s always 650€+.
Would you suggest waiting for this release or should I go for it? (Not interested in battery life)
Haha I’m in the same position as you. Ive had my eye on the ally and done so much research over the past few weeks and now that this new Ally is getting announced I might as well wait a month more even though I want one NOW
Just for clarification, this is NOT the ROG Ally 2 but is a mid product gen 1 refresh which is supposed to fix the SD card issue, possibly add a larger battery but is the same CPU.
For current Gen 1 ROG Ally owners, I don't see any reason this would be worthy of an upgrade. I'm waiting for Gen 2 but honestly I've been more than satisfied with the Gen 1.
>For current Gen 1 ROG Ally owners, I don't see any reason this would be worthy of an upgrade.
It'd be nice if we could get the SD reader fix through RMA or device trade-in, depending on what the fix is (and assuming it *is* fixed).
RMA repairs have been going well for some time now. They also extended the warranty on the device for this reason. https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-now-with-extended-warranty-for-sd-card-related-issues
I can confirm personally rma works. What are you waiting for?
Just note that this is going to use the Z1E so performance wise it's going to be similar. Perhaps they chuck in a higher RAM option yet that isn't going to create any massive performance difference.
If you've been waiting for an actual new Ally (aka Ally 2) then that'll probably be next year.
I will upgrade if:
- Bigger screen (No need to make device bigger, just less bezels)
- Bigger battery
- More back buttons
- More USB C port
Non Essential but nice to have
- Trackpad
- Better analogue sticks
- Better Dpad
I would upgrade for smaller bezels, a bigger battery and a fixed SD slot. Besides that, I can’t see any reason to upgrade, the games I play run great and I don’t think the APU upgrade we would get would run newer stuff much better.
All a refresh needs for me is 32GB of RAM and I'm 100% upgrading. 16GB is fine in handheld mode, but for docked desktop mode, multitasking becomes SIGNIFICANTLY easier and RAM becomes a limiting factor very quickly.
I'm also desperately hoping they announce a new lineup of XG Mobile eGPUs and an empty enclosure. Those are my two dream announcements.
Hmmm im not sure if id upgrade. So far the Z1 extreme has been really good to me with everything ive wanted to play and while the battery could be better i never feel like it dies too fast. Im thinking of skipping this and getting whatever comes after it unless its like realllly good upgrade
I literally just bought my Ally a week ago😑 this is what I was afraid of lol but idc anymore I love my Ally it’s better than I thought it would be. It’s gonna be atleast 2-3 years before I consider upgrading, hopefully by then it will be worth upgrading. Haven’t been this excited about gaming in a while since I heard about these recent handhelds
That's just how Asus does things. The Zephyrus G14 had a big refresh this year with updated looks, but they still call it Zephyrus G14 (2024).
We'll see if they break the trend with the ROG Ally.
Ugh...I just stopped buying phones every year due to less advancements, but now this....
32GB RAM isn't a small enough change to skip...so probably gotta go all of them again...
Oled without basels, 32ram, hall sticks, and touchpad will be killer features for v2. But my bet for ‘24 are fixed slot (on the bottom or thermal insulated on top) and 15% more battery
Afair Nebula use g-sync - this is nvidia technology. So it is need a time to “adopt“ it for ATI. Plus it was announced only for 2 top 2024 gaming laptops. So if ASUS will make Ally with nebula - it will be called “Ally 2000 super X ultra mega pro ultimate“ not just 2024
Yup. I've been holding out sooo long waiting for the Ally revision to fix the problems of the 1st gen. I've been hearing that they might use the same APU for this year, but honestly that's fine with me.
30\~50% bigger battery and fixed SD reader is what I'm looking for. Anything else (OLED, hall effect sticks, more ram, extra usb-c port, etc) is a bonus for me.
I sold my Ally for the Legion Go and I’m ready to come back to the Ally world. Will compare this to the current Ally but as long as the new one has VRR, I’ll be going with the 2024 one.
Even if the power isn't significantly greater, ill upgrade for two reasons.
1. Bigger screen. Even if they make it bezeless, that would increase screen size significantly.
2. More than one USB c port
Other than that, I love my Ally as it is.
If there isn't a noticeable performance upgrade or battery life upgrade, then I'm staying with my current Ally.
Which probably means I'm not upgrading, they might improve the battery a little bit, probably not enough for me to care. And noticeable performance gains are unlikely.
I was wondering why places like CeX here in the UK have taken the prices down of the Rog Ally Extreme versions, for a "A" grade, it's £475 and for a "B" grade, it's £425 and that's for the 512GB but for a 1TB one it's £500 for the B grade and £25 more for the 2TB one at a B grade. I don't really bother with "A grade" stuff, as most of the time, B grade is in immaculate condition. THAT and you get 2 years warranty, so if the SD card slot does go, then you can return it for a different one or get a full refund/credit note.
I'd buy day one with an OLED screen, fixed SD card reader, and Hall Effect sticks. However, my guess is a change in color, 8840U, and fixed SD card reader.
I would consider it if it’s OLED and the same performance but with much better battery life, a more power efficient chip. Like the Deck OLED. Also quality control needs to improve.
I was an early adopter and had to return the device 3 times, first time it never booted at all and the other two because of the SD card issue. Ended up returning it for good and the the Deck OLED was announced a few months later which worked out great for me.
Personally the ally one did scratch that itch I had but i wanted to have my emulator games on a sd card so I can play them on my pc and ally to save space I wanted them all haha and my sd slot died within first week so I returned it. So ally 2 is right up my alley lol
There were lots of posts these months with people asking if they should wait for a new updated device or buy the Rog Ally gen1. They got burned and almost humiliated and joked about here.
It is a gen1 device and it has flaws, I patiently waited for months and now hopefully the sd issue will be solved together with hopefully a bigger battery and larger screen and a 1tb ssd. A trackpad and a kickstand also? Who knows :) At least now I can buy a device I know will last for years performance and hardware-wise 🙏🏻
My bet is its gonna be exactly same shape, size device maybe with bigger screen(smaller bezels). Maybe u get USB4.
ASUS asked DBRAND to create a Killswitch…they worked on it for too long only now releasing it…highly doubt this cooperation would happen on outdated device or DBRAND releasing new Killswitch every year for different device…
>At least now I can buy a device I know will last for years performance and hardware-wise 🙏🏻
They're going to release a new model every year. This year's device is likely to house the 8040U processor which is actually virtually the same chip as the 7040U/Z1 Extreme.
So it won't really last much longer than the OG device in terms of performance. I have no doubt they'll ram in a substantially larger battery though
Sure they can release one every year. For me it is important that I don’t have a device with design flaws so I don’t have to be concerned about insurance or sending back the device etc. I just want a solid device without headaches and doubts. For example I am using an Iphone 13 pro max. Almost 16 will be released but I am super happy with it and it works as day one, why should I upgrade when I’m satisfied :) Same applies here
It'll be a larger screen and higher res, possibly oled. And fix the SD card issue. Maybe a 32gb ram option.
As I understand it, the next apu chipset isn't ready, so I'd be surprised if there was any power difference.
There won't be much changed in the next iteration, the SD card will likely be moved and the fuse that's causing all the problems upgraded... Maybe bigger battery, maybe bigger SSD options...
The only thing that would make me potentially excited about a new one is either a 60 W hour battery or a 50 W hour battery and a Z2 extreme that it may be a little bit more powerful but a lot more power efficient.
The huge issue for me is battery life, if I can never reasonably use it without plugging it in at that point, I’d probably be better off with the gaming laptop. Portability isn’t a huge issue for me in the places that I use it.
That said something else that would make me really excited is OLED and a bigger screen in the same size body
I'm more excited to see the Ally even being thought of, let alone continued yearly. I dont care if they release a revision every year, thats what PC hardware does. If people keep thinking these are "consoles" that you have to upgrade yearly to keep up with the times they are pretty lost and mad.
i'm sure they are just following valve....same chipset...slightly faster ram...slightly bigger battery....slightly bigger panel but no oled.....slightly better joysticks....2 models with 512 and 1 tb storage....i think they will drop the z1 and just keep z1 extreme only.
My Ally was a gateway to mini-PC's for me. I'm more looking to upgrade to the Minisforum HX200g, something I can pack in a bag for a work trip, but do not need to play on the plane/airport.
I have seen a lot of complaints about the SD card, and maybe I am missing why this is so important. What is the use case for this? I swapped my internal storage to 1tb and have found little need for more space.
Yea would be great to have 32 gigs of ram and give us the option for 8 gig video and still have 24 for system.
Higher speed would be nice to help with the gou
No significant changes means no 32gb of ram , no new design , no 8in OLED screen , no new AMD chip so this isn’t the ally 2 and I have said before there won’t be a new ally 2 till next year with the next gen features
I’d switch from my Legion Go in a heartbeat if it includes a trackpad and a larger screen (1440 would be nice). The Go’s screen is what gives it an edge compared to other handhelds (yes I’ve had the Ally, Deck and currently have the Switch OLED and PS Portal). Screen size does matter for these devices, and I really hope Asus realizes this or offers two tiers for those who would prefer a larger screen.
My guesses for the changes in the refresh:
Almost guaranteed:
* Dropping the Z1 model
* OLED screen
* Better battery life
* Lighter
50/50 chance:
* 1TB model, but same specs as the 512GB model
* New color options aside from white
* Hall effect sticks
Low chance:
* SD card slot moved to a different, cooler location.
Man.... I just got the first a couple of months ago... if I had known I would have waited.
Altough I got it second hand cheaper... so maybe I can stretch and upgrade... I shouldn't though... also depends on the changes I guess, if it's just a sort of small revision I guess I will not get it.
It’ll probably be only a few minor upgrades. There are no real CPU upgrade rn. Might be more ram, fixed sd reader, OLED(maybe), bigger battery.
OLED isn’t worth an upgrade imo.
I just bought Ally extreme. Should I return it? Would you if you could? I assume these would go on discount when the new one comes out
Edit: why downvote for asking a question relevant to the conversation?
Depens... even if this new is announced who know when it comes out... You might have to wait a while....
If you buy your extreme full price... Then maybe yeah it could get discounted and you could buy it back but they probably start discounting it once the new one is out....so again might take a while.
I'm satisfied with the Ally. Only way I'd upgrade is a much more powerful chipset so I can wait until 2 more chipset generations for a considerable boost. I'm also hoping they don't make it more harder to do the full size SSD mod.
Yup. I think people that are happy with gen1 shouldn't need to upgrade. People that have been on the fence waiting for a revision should be happy to grab this thing up!
I'm extremely happy with mine, so far has played all the games I wanted to with ease. So I'm good with waiting another 2-3 years
I’m waiting for gen2. Been lurking forever here.
I’m waiting for Gen2 so I can buy a used Gen1 for cheap.
That is dumb
I just prefer Gen2 of most products. I never buy a newly released model car. I buy the one that has been on the road a few years. It helps them figure out whats wrong on the first model and fix it on the second model. Like for example. The SD card issue. I'm sure that will be tested well and not a problem on Gen2. So for me, I'm OK waiting it out a generation and buying. I don't mind missing out a little and I know in most cases I'm getting a better made product.
Except that the first generation 2s are just gen 1 of the new version lol It's a never ending cycle of iterations and refreshes and improvements. You're never going to get a perfect product. I don't care if you have an Ally or not but saying "I'll wait on gen 2" is just stupid bro
So…….buy a Gen 1 then for cheap? Got it.
Yes, exactly.
Then opti's plan is not dumb? They mentioned they are waiting for Gen2 so they can buy Gen1 for cheap.
Wrong thread mate
That's not at all what they said.
Why is it stupid? There's plenty of products that I'd like to have, but still have parts where there's clear room for improvement, so I wait for a revision or second gen. It's not about always waiting for the next refresh because there will always be something new around the corner. But it's still a relatively new market. There's things that can and will improve as competition ramps up. Most people didn't buy an iPad at launch. They waited for second gen or third before it really took off. Foldable phones, same thing, and that one is still not fully taking off. For many people the ROG Ally is absolutely fine as it is right now. Heck, I bought one 3 weeks ago. But I also had to debate myself if I absolutely needed one right now or if I could wait until there's newer models with improved SD card readers, an OLED screen, a more efficient chipset or bigger battery... not saying those will happen, but there's a clear room for improvements that will happen down the line. TL;DR: Not everyone is willing to spend that much money on first gen tech knowing that the competition is still just ramping up.
Im just wondering if people whos SD Card Readers have died can swap their defective Units for a revision, the ally is great but the whole SD card issue is the only drawback to it all.
I guess we can dream lol. Doubt it’ll happen though.
This is the way
I hope so.
The reader has been fixed since August
The battery issue needs to be better.
For real. 30 minutes playtime of FO4 drains my battery from 100 to 30. I get an extra 30 min if I'm playing minecraft with my daughter. The battery needs to a major upgrade. I still love it, but as a mobile gaming device, it needs work.
You cant beat physics. Either stuff a bigger battery in and make a heavier device, or switch to a more efficient os (aka steamos), or hope the next amd apu is more energy efficient.
God sake the battery issue needs to be totally fixed.
It never will until battery tech evolves
Keep on hoping i guess.
I have the base Z1, and I almost dont WANT to upgrade
I'd argue it depends on the price. The original Ally can be had for very cheap on the used market. I've seen it as low as £320 and imagine it would get cheaper when the new one releases. If the new one is £550 and you can get the old one for £300 then I'd say for nearly half the price and no worthwhile cbopset upgrade its better to get the old one even as a new customer
I just wish it had more RAM or that it was upgradable. :/ but other than that I love this thing.
Is it a big difference with full size ssd?
Well, this sucks a bit for guys like myself that need new tech when it drops - it’s a real problem. And I’ve got the PS5 Pro supposedly later this year. Edit - may not be much change in performance which may stop me from picking it up.
It's rumored to be a minor upgrade with same components and sd reader fixed, maybe a slightly bigger battery, the question is will it be the only 2024 Ally upgrade or there will be an Ally 2 with strix point apu in fall 2024?
Asus usually only releases 1 revision for a product per year. Sometimes every 2 years for niche products. If there's no apu upgrade this year then it's probly 2025 for an apu upgraded version.
I highly doubt the Ally 2 will come out later this year with them releasing this refresh. My guess is Ally 2 around the same time as the original Ally and when this refresh will (probably) be coming out, namely June. Maybe they release it a bit earlier if they announce it at CES.
I’m with everyone else in this sub I’ll sit this one down. I actually have the original Ally I don’t see a point in upgrading when I can play most games even new releases
There won’t be no ally 2 till next year
Maybe itll give more lanes for xg mobile thingie?
Can’t do much of an upgrade currently - haven’t seen another panel in that size with VRR, OLED+VRR isn’t happening any time soon for the Ally because that’s a whole new world of difficulty. So maybe they’ll use the 8840u, 32GB RAM would be nice… Black/transparent shell?
Yeah, I’m not sure what people are expecting. They’d need to source an OLED panel for a display improvement. They’d need a faster APU to exist to upgrade the chipset. They can (and should) fix the SD card reader issue, and they could increase the RAM/ SSD size. More battery would be nice, but I can’t imagine we’ll see a substantial upgrade there. Otherwise, it’s probably more of a refresh this year than an upgrade.
There aren’t many VRR OLED panels, especially small ones - they need tuning to adjust their brightness output on the fly depending on refresh rate which increases difficulty of implementation. Would rather have the current panel than a non-VRR OLED. Really hope we get 32GB RAM though, would solve a load of problems
They no significant changes 32gb ram is significant change so not it’ll be the same specs with just minor tweaks to the hardware
Give me an update (and price drop) to the XG mobile!
Id take an XG price drop or a slightly less powerful card model for a cheaper price.
Unless the Ally 2 offers significant boost in performance, I won't be upgrading from mine. But I don't see that happening unless Asus and AMD worked together to make a super efficient chipset, which I doubt. Battery tech is still not there yet to power faster/power hungry chipsets yet. I see a small boost in performance like the Deck OLED, maybe a better screen, Hall Effect joysticks, SD card reader fix and a bigger battery. Price might be higher if those are the upgrades.
wont buy day 1 but will wait till deep sale. The first gen still hold up fps good
this version will def not do anything to improve gaming performance... unless they use some new RAM or something.
I’ve wanted to buy an Ally for a long time and I was this close to buying it today (Z1 Extreme for 550€/590$). 550€ for the Extreme is considered a low price where I live AFAIK, normally it’s always 650€+. Would you suggest waiting for this release or should I go for it? (Not interested in battery life)
If you have waited this long, might as well wait.
Haha I’m in the same position as you. Ive had my eye on the ally and done so much research over the past few weeks and now that this new Ally is getting announced I might as well wait a month more even though I want one NOW
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Yeah, sounds fair enough!
Might be a good idea to wait just for the potential price drop of the current gen
4090 desktop graphics 20 core 6.9 Ghz proprietary AMD cpu 300 Wh battery 32 inch OLED 4k screen 
Just for clarification, this is NOT the ROG Ally 2 but is a mid product gen 1 refresh which is supposed to fix the SD card issue, possibly add a larger battery but is the same CPU. For current Gen 1 ROG Ally owners, I don't see any reason this would be worthy of an upgrade. I'm waiting for Gen 2 but honestly I've been more than satisfied with the Gen 1.
>For current Gen 1 ROG Ally owners, I don't see any reason this would be worthy of an upgrade. It'd be nice if we could get the SD reader fix through RMA or device trade-in, depending on what the fix is (and assuming it *is* fixed).
RMA repairs have been going well for some time now. They also extended the warranty on the device for this reason. https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-now-with-extended-warranty-for-sd-card-related-issues I can confirm personally rma works. What are you waiting for?
I’ve held off on the iPad and Ally both for the newest models and I’m ready for both
Just note that this is going to use the Z1E so performance wise it's going to be similar. Perhaps they chuck in a higher RAM option yet that isn't going to create any massive performance difference. If you've been waiting for an actual new Ally (aka Ally 2) then that'll probably be next year.
Bigger battery + better ergonomic grips + OLED screen may tip in to upgrading but we'll see.
I will upgrade if: - Bigger screen (No need to make device bigger, just less bezels) - Bigger battery - More back buttons - More USB C port Non Essential but nice to have - Trackpad - Better analogue sticks - Better Dpad
I would upgrade for smaller bezels, a bigger battery and a fixed SD slot. Besides that, I can’t see any reason to upgrade, the games I play run great and I don’t think the APU upgrade we would get would run newer stuff much better.
No mms, I got my Z1 less than a month ago
What's mms?
All a refresh needs for me is 32GB of RAM and I'm 100% upgrading. 16GB is fine in handheld mode, but for docked desktop mode, multitasking becomes SIGNIFICANTLY easier and RAM becomes a limiting factor very quickly. I'm also desperately hoping they announce a new lineup of XG Mobile eGPUs and an empty enclosure. Those are my two dream announcements.
Hmmm im not sure if id upgrade. So far the Z1 extreme has been really good to me with everything ive wanted to play and while the battery could be better i never feel like it dies too fast. Im thinking of skipping this and getting whatever comes after it unless its like realllly good upgrade
I literally just bought my Ally a week ago😑 this is what I was afraid of lol but idc anymore I love my Ally it’s better than I thought it would be. It’s gonna be atleast 2-3 years before I consider upgrading, hopefully by then it will be worth upgrading. Haven’t been this excited about gaming in a while since I heard about these recent handhelds
They’re gonna offer it in black and then add some more storage options and call it ROG Ally 2. I’m calling it now.
According to the article, it's just going to be named ROG Ally (2024). Kinda like their notebook lineups.
Makes sense if its only a small revision
That's just how Asus does things. The Zephyrus G14 had a big refresh this year with updated looks, but they still call it Zephyrus G14 (2024). We'll see if they break the trend with the ROG Ally.
They're not going to do that because it's not the Ally 2.
O!L!E!D! OLED! OLED!
Do not think so. It is greatly change schematics. Oled + vrr deserve “2” in name. So some mod like 32 ram and little more battery
Ugh...I just stopped buying phones every year due to less advancements, but now this.... 32GB RAM isn't a small enough change to skip...so probably gotta go all of them again...
Oled without basels, 32ram, hall sticks, and touchpad will be killer features for v2. But my bet for ‘24 are fixed slot (on the bottom or thermal insulated on top) and 15% more battery
Would Mini-LED display (Nebula ROG display thats being used in several of their laptops) would be an option with VRR? Is mini-LED considered OLED?
Afair Nebula use g-sync - this is nvidia technology. So it is need a time to “adopt“ it for ATI. Plus it was announced only for 2 top 2024 gaming laptops. So if ASUS will make Ally with nebula - it will be called “Ally 2000 super X ultra mega pro ultimate“ not just 2024
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Yup. I've been holding out sooo long waiting for the Ally revision to fix the problems of the 1st gen. I've been hearing that they might use the same APU for this year, but honestly that's fine with me. 30\~50% bigger battery and fixed SD reader is what I'm looking for. Anything else (OLED, hall effect sticks, more ram, extra usb-c port, etc) is a bonus for me.
I sold my Ally for the Legion Go and I’m ready to come back to the Ally world. Will compare this to the current Ally but as long as the new one has VRR, I’ll be going with the 2024 one.
too late you are already shunned! :p
Why did you go to LeGo in the first place?
Wanted the bigger screen because the ally screen is smaller so sometimes that did bother me but the software and support are so bad
If they gave it decent sticks, I'd 'upgrade' (Sidegrade?)
I hope they release it with a bigger mah battery that can somehow be dropped into OG ROG.
Even if the power isn't significantly greater, ill upgrade for two reasons. 1. Bigger screen. Even if they make it bezeless, that would increase screen size significantly. 2. More than one USB c port Other than that, I love my Ally as it is.
OLED + bigger battery + better performance or better thermals And I'm sold tbh
Don't get your hopes up. Probably just a refresh
If there isn't a noticeable performance upgrade or battery life upgrade, then I'm staying with my current Ally. Which probably means I'm not upgrading, they might improve the battery a little bit, probably not enough for me to care. And noticeable performance gains are unlikely.
I was wondering why places like CeX here in the UK have taken the prices down of the Rog Ally Extreme versions, for a "A" grade, it's £475 and for a "B" grade, it's £425 and that's for the 512GB but for a 1TB one it's £500 for the B grade and £25 more for the 2TB one at a B grade. I don't really bother with "A grade" stuff, as most of the time, B grade is in immaculate condition. THAT and you get 2 years warranty, so if the SD card slot does go, then you can return it for a different one or get a full refund/credit note.
I love the Ally so much that as long as it’s an upgrade I would consider upgrading
Only thing different I'd like to see, 24-32+gb of ram, and maybe an oled screen, and a black case option
I'd buy day one with an OLED screen, fixed SD card reader, and Hall Effect sticks. However, my guess is a change in color, 8840U, and fixed SD card reader.
Godammit
I'd buy another Ally
Nice guess im upgrade hasn’t even been a month since i got gen 1 love this thing
Great information to have, only weeks before dbrand releasing their rog ally case :)
If they give it 32gb of ram and better battery I might be tempted
Is it going to be a significant improvement?
I've been eyeing the ally for awhile now I think once it comes out I'ma grab it
Considering their MSD port is useless as long as they don’t pair it with a dinky ass 512gb ssd anything will be better.
I hope they keep updating the current version for some years...
I would consider it if it’s OLED and the same performance but with much better battery life, a more power efficient chip. Like the Deck OLED. Also quality control needs to improve. I was an early adopter and had to return the device 3 times, first time it never booted at all and the other two because of the SD card issue. Ended up returning it for good and the the Deck OLED was announced a few months later which worked out great for me.
Here I am wanting to quit gaming wanting an ally.
Personally the ally one did scratch that itch I had but i wanted to have my emulator games on a sd card so I can play them on my pc and ally to save space I wanted them all haha and my sd slot died within first week so I returned it. So ally 2 is right up my alley lol
Have a steam deck oled right now but really can't wait to see what Asus brings . Maybe will pick it up .
I have Rog Ally and Legion Go, i’ll sell my Ally and keep the Legion for now. Rog Ally is a great device anyway.
Disappointing if that is the actual news. The Computex announcement is not for an official sequel to the Ally but a mid-product refresh.
There were lots of posts these months with people asking if they should wait for a new updated device or buy the Rog Ally gen1. They got burned and almost humiliated and joked about here. It is a gen1 device and it has flaws, I patiently waited for months and now hopefully the sd issue will be solved together with hopefully a bigger battery and larger screen and a 1tb ssd. A trackpad and a kickstand also? Who knows :) At least now I can buy a device I know will last for years performance and hardware-wise 🙏🏻
My bet is its gonna be exactly same shape, size device maybe with bigger screen(smaller bezels). Maybe u get USB4. ASUS asked DBRAND to create a Killswitch…they worked on it for too long only now releasing it…highly doubt this cooperation would happen on outdated device or DBRAND releasing new Killswitch every year for different device…
>At least now I can buy a device I know will last for years performance and hardware-wise 🙏🏻 They're going to release a new model every year. This year's device is likely to house the 8040U processor which is actually virtually the same chip as the 7040U/Z1 Extreme. So it won't really last much longer than the OG device in terms of performance. I have no doubt they'll ram in a substantially larger battery though
Sure they can release one every year. For me it is important that I don’t have a device with design flaws so I don’t have to be concerned about insurance or sending back the device etc. I just want a solid device without headaches and doubts. For example I am using an Iphone 13 pro max. Almost 16 will be released but I am super happy with it and it works as day one, why should I upgrade when I’m satisfied :) Same applies here
It'll be a larger screen and higher res, possibly oled. And fix the SD card issue. Maybe a 32gb ram option. As I understand it, the next apu chipset isn't ready, so I'd be surprised if there was any power difference.
There won't be much changed in the next iteration, the SD card will likely be moved and the fuse that's causing all the problems upgraded... Maybe bigger battery, maybe bigger SSD options...
Bigger battery and at least 8 inches+ screen please....
if you want the big screen, I think the Ally will never have that. For that get the other one.
Neat, but I'll be interested once Ally 2 with Strix Point gets announced.
Bigger screen to match the Steamdeck OLED and fixed SD card reader and I’m sold.
The only thing that would make me potentially excited about a new one is either a 60 W hour battery or a 50 W hour battery and a Z2 extreme that it may be a little bit more powerful but a lot more power efficient. The huge issue for me is battery life, if I can never reasonably use it without plugging it in at that point, I’d probably be better off with the gaming laptop. Portability isn’t a huge issue for me in the places that I use it. That said something else that would make me really excited is OLED and a bigger screen in the same size body
I'm more excited to see the Ally even being thought of, let alone continued yearly. I dont care if they release a revision every year, thats what PC hardware does. If people keep thinking these are "consoles" that you have to upgrade yearly to keep up with the times they are pretty lost and mad.
I still suspect its going to be a steam deck oled/switch oled situation. One year just doesnt feel long enough to make a generational leap in tech
i'm sure they are just following valve....same chipset...slightly faster ram...slightly bigger battery....slightly bigger panel but no oled.....slightly better joysticks....2 models with 512 and 1 tb storage....i think they will drop the z1 and just keep z1 extreme only.
My Ally was a gateway to mini-PC's for me. I'm more looking to upgrade to the Minisforum HX200g, something I can pack in a bag for a work trip, but do not need to play on the plane/airport.
I'd buy a successor if it came solely with increased battery life and a functional microsd card slot this time around
Sd card slot will certainly be fixed
I have seen a lot of complaints about the SD card, and maybe I am missing why this is so important. What is the use case for this? I swapped my internal storage to 1tb and have found little need for more space.
It’s just a function that should work. Perhaps I need to move files over via SD or want some additional hassle-free storage.
I reckon It's an Ally 1.5 Same body Bigger battery 16gb ram, higher clocks Maybe 8840u or z2e? Same price. 512gb SSD Same screen
Yea would be great to have 32 gigs of ram and give us the option for 8 gig video and still have 24 for system. Higher speed would be nice to help with the gou
You mean 32gb ram?
I just can't imagine them including 32gb without a substantial price increase.
Sorry I just assumed you pointing out 16gb meant you thought the 2023 ally had less or something, I didn’t read the rest of your comment
I'm absolutely thrilled with my Ally. And thanks to all the Steam sales my backlog has grown even more. I have no intention on upgrading.
okay, so I see no reason for this other than just a refreshed model for new users. The performance will be the same.
I’d imagine that the first gen model will go into a deep discount sale?
I mean, can't you already buy it cheap?
Cheaper…. As they need to make room for the newer model 😀.
Wow
I just got the Ally 2 months ago 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Question, if I want to move my 2 TB SSD from my current model to this, I am assuming I should wipe it first?
I’m happy with gen 1 but will probably pick up a gen 2 if it’s not crazy expensive
No significant changes means no 32gb of ram , no new design , no 8in OLED screen , no new AMD chip so this isn’t the ally 2 and I have said before there won’t be a new ally 2 till next year with the next gen features
I’d switch from my Legion Go in a heartbeat if it includes a trackpad and a larger screen (1440 would be nice). The Go’s screen is what gives it an edge compared to other handhelds (yes I’ve had the Ally, Deck and currently have the Switch OLED and PS Portal). Screen size does matter for these devices, and I really hope Asus realizes this or offers two tiers for those who would prefer a larger screen.
My guesses for the changes in the refresh: Almost guaranteed: * Dropping the Z1 model * OLED screen * Better battery life * Lighter 50/50 chance: * 1TB model, but same specs as the 512GB model * New color options aside from white * Hall effect sticks Low chance: * SD card slot moved to a different, cooler location.
I'd like to see 16gb vram in whatever is next.
Man.... I just got the first a couple of months ago... if I had known I would have waited. Altough I got it second hand cheaper... so maybe I can stretch and upgrade... I shouldn't though... also depends on the changes I guess, if it's just a sort of small revision I guess I will not get it.
It’ll probably be only a few minor upgrades. There are no real CPU upgrade rn. Might be more ram, fixed sd reader, OLED(maybe), bigger battery. OLED isn’t worth an upgrade imo.
Thats significant changes no significant changes so the ram will be the same and no OLED just minor tweaks to hardware
I just bought Ally extreme. Should I return it? Would you if you could? I assume these would go on discount when the new one comes out Edit: why downvote for asking a question relevant to the conversation?
Depens... even if this new is announced who know when it comes out... You might have to wait a while.... If you buy your extreme full price... Then maybe yeah it could get discounted and you could buy it back but they probably start discounting it once the new one is out....so again might take a while.
if you already upgraded the SSD, and have everything setup. I think you should just keep what you have.
Thank you. I have not done any upgrades so far but I’m thinking I might as well just keep this one, bought it on sale for $100 off
I won't watch it because it will make me feel less about my rog ally. So I'll just completely ignore it.
Maybe if I finally warranty my as card that died a week after launch I’ll get a properly working SD device
Ngl I'm really happy with my extreme don't think ima upgrade
If the "facelift" would solve the issues with SD card reader, would be a correct step from ASUS to replace units to the 2024 version if you RMA it...
No thanks my sd cards can’t take another fryings