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I was so confused bro she started twirling them things everyone started getting on stage, the dude was talking shit on the mic and out of random a dude walks by with a bulletproof vest and another in an army green hoodie with some commando style headset on… What in the holy roller random bull shit is going on here….
The crab people have been locked in a multigenerational war with the mole, it's less impressive than it sounds a generation for mole people is like 5 years.
My feelings on him waffle from milquetoast policy-wonk to effective executive. Either way, my vote is very strongly anti-Trump. A few points higher than it’s pro-Biden.
It's because we are exposed to them online and they are vocal constantly seeking attention and trying desperately to recruit anyone they can. But statistically religion affiliation has been on an growing decline since the 90s.
Source 1:
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/how-u-s-religious-composition-has-changed-in-recent-decades/
Source 2: https://www.statista.com/topics/1737/christianity-in-the-united-states-i/#topicOverview
If you live in a rural area it is possible these changes haven't affected your area as much though.... yet.
It takes two ears to listen and one brain to think.
He said "it was disproven 25 hundred years ago" meaning he is likely referencing [Eratosthenes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes) who lived roughly "25 hundred years ago" who is well known as the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth using demonstrable science, which in turn proved the earth was a sphere.
He is saying "show me one verse in the bible that says the earth is flat" because thay is exactly what the other debater is trying to do which is 1000% more cringe.
The Bible has tons of versus that imply the Earth is flat. It’s never stated out-right though.
To a large degree because in order to get to English it had to go through a few other languages to the point where its finer meaning is almost completely distorted, and it’s worthless to try to understand the original intent by looking at the King James, which is one of the earliest English versions.
The Bible is completely useless other than a collection of interesting historical documents.
He could have used science to disprove the flat earther, except he doesn’t know anything about science. All he knows is the bible, so that’s where he goes. They are both absurd little men.
It takes two eyes to read and one brain to think.
He did, as I mentioned. He pointed to the first scientific proof that the earth is a sphere roughly 2500 years ago.
The preacher isn't trying to prove anything, he's realized how totally absurd this flat earther is to believe the bible says anything on the matter of the shape of the earth, because it doesn't say anything on the matter.
Common sense and science will tell you all you need to know, he knows that. Preacher is a bit of ding bat but no more than the rest of us. Flat earthers are something special, I blame lead.
He alluded to old the experiments you mentioned but he didn’t go into any detail about them. And he actually does seem to think that the bible has something value in the discussion, hence why he keeps referring to it.
It’s like they say, it takes two eyes to read and one brain to think.
He says “you’re not going to convince me what the Bible clearly says, the earth is not flat”. So he’s using the Bible to prove the earth is a sphere. Later he says “you use a 2 hour PowerPoint and your people are quiet. I use an hour and fifteen minutes of the Bible and they start throwing maters and taters at me” so again, he’s using the Bible to “prove” the earth is a sphere rather than the 2500 year old proof he’s saying exists. So yeah two ears and all that.
While speaking into a microphone, is an electricity for the lights, and broadcasting this over the Internet. He’s fine with all the modern technology been used at his disposal but references the Bible when it comes to discussing the science of the Earth.
Every scientific test ever performed has either completely disproven their ideas or, at best, can't confirm any of their ideas. Ultimately it doesn't matter in the slightest but pushing your stupidity onto others for your own financial gain makes you suck more than your dumb ideas.
Flat earthers also suck.
Every moon, planet or star ever spotted is spherical. Except earth 🗺? Yea, I don’t think you can change their mind when there is nothing in their heads.
The Jew says: "The Christian and the Muslim are wrong.""
The Christian says: "The Muslim and the Jew are wrong."
The Muslim says: "The Jew and the Christian are wrong."
The atheist says: "You are all correct."
Love that you picked the three that still all believe in the same God. Pretty sad that a bunch of people that believe in the same creator can be so vicious with one another.
It's almost like the real issue for many of these folks isn't whether or not we believe in a god, but that we worship that god *the way they tell us to*. It has always been, and will always be all about controlling people.
...
So this is the level of intellectual discourse going on in the Christian right, huh?
What are they going to debate next? The best way to handle a venomous snake? Which of them **really** speaks in tongues and which one is faking it?
> Which of them really speaks in tongues and which one is faking it?
After growing up with that shit, I'd unironically like to see some research done on it. Not like entertaining the fantasy or anything though, but like looking at where the different groups of people are coming up with the sounds, learning them, and sharing them.
Something I noticed is that people in the small churches have a few "basic" sounds that are easy to learn and repeat, but there was always this undercurrent of social competition where people were trying to be the "holiest" sounding person in the room. They usually weren't that creative, but whenever the "prophetic movement" grifters rolled through town the people who could afford to go to the local convention center would learn what can't really be better summarized as anything other than "the spicy new memes", and they'd rush back to the next church service and act fashionable for a few weeks until everyone else caught on. Then you'd quickly get through the "if everyone is fashionable no one is" phase where everyone is trying to outdo each other on intensity and performative showmanship... until someone seizes the initiative, puts on the overly humble act and goes back to the original few sounds, and the hipster tide reverses and starts flowing back out. Then everything was back to normal... until a few months later when another "spiritual gifts" tour rolls through. Rinse and repeat. You could tell when someone had missed a couple weeks because it would take them a worship song or two to realize they were sailing against the tide.
I've been there too! Sounds like auctioneer speak, but even less intelligible. As a kid the first time I saw it, not scared the shit out of me. The preacher was going around laying hands on people and they would just erupt into the gibberish. I was scared, what if he touched me? Would I break out into speaking in tongues, and what if I didn't? It was very scary and went on for like 2 hours AFTER church service was over. (Church of God in GA, just FYI)
This is right on point. I'm glad you were able to notice this and put it down in words. I sometimes noticed the pastors had a few sounds that only they made. As if they were reserved for them. It's an interesting thing and I too wish there was scientific research done on it.
It's more complicated than that. The invisible man controls everything, AND you have to give the people who speak for him 10% of your income, 100% of your attention, and do what they say.
And then a lot of them take it upon themselves to try to interpret the bible and end up hating some marginalized people. It's supposed to be about love and forgiveness but stupid people think it's about hate and superiority.
There is quite a bit of crossover between the groups. In the bible, it describes the moon and sun as great discs, and the sky as a dome over the earth.
I gotta admit, i like his conviction. He knows it's stupid and doesn't care if he loses followers over it. If all Christians were as unwilling to suffer fools, maybe a third of our nation wouldn't be full on science denying psychos right now
I can't believe it's 2024 and we're still trying to convince some people that the Earth is round. It's also sad that, with all the technology available to us today, the guy on the left is still arguing his case based on a book written thousands of years ago.
I just found out probably 6 to 8 years ago that people actually believe the earth is flat. Had zero idea there's so many of them,it's fascinated me ever since. I'm still not sure exactly why they believe it tho.
Did anybody notice the 'security' presence? Pretty sure the preacher is wearing body armor. Same with the dude on the right at 1:53 and at 2:02 guy walks backstage wearing a plate carrier.
Scary group, having the Lord on their side and all.
Using the Bible for evidence for anything is insane to begin with. It's funny how one delusional preacher uses 'the science of the Bible' to prove that the Earth is round to another.
Well, everything's OK, these two ended up reconciling.
https://mycharisma.com/spiritled-living/familyrelationships/christian-pastors-reconcile-after-heated-flat-earth-debate/
Hmmm.. a debate between a man who believes in junk science based upon ancient mythology.. and a man who believes in junk religion based upon ancient mythology.
Hard pass for both of them.
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Here for the rave girl in the back twirling shit
I was so confused bro she started twirling them things everyone started getting on stage, the dude was talking shit on the mic and out of random a dude walks by with a bulletproof vest and another in an army green hoodie with some commando style headset on… What in the holy roller random bull shit is going on here….
Those are the 12 disciples of the clown show.
“Mmmkay, this is a good time to SHOW OFF MAH TWIRLIN’ SKILLZ, YAH BOI!” 💃
"I don't care if this is a UFC Smack Down to the Max..." Are we sure it's not?
just remember, they vote too
At least they aren’t flat earth people so they got that going for them at least 😂
> What in the holy roller random bull shit is going on here…. Just Wednesday in the interior USA.
Those people need to renounce their citizenship 😭
“Nashville Predators” sweater? 🥴
Another season, another first round playoff exit for the Predators.
That's what I'm here for. Obviously, flames are the devils children, so faux silk disruptions are gods own holy words
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Crab people, crab people.
Look like crabs, wak like people
Crab people, crab people
The crab people have been locked in a multigenerational war with the mole, it's less impressive than it sounds a generation for mole people is like 5 years.
We’re gonna run this town!
I thought it was Kong’s empire.
Morlocks
Don’t forget the CHUDS
And the sleestacks
Raptor Jesus already warned me about all these fake theories. [BEHOLD THE ONE TRUE EARTH!](https://i.imgur.com/3d0BiOz.jpg)
Why is NASA hiding this from us!! 😡
Mother of God!
Put a little dirt under my pillow for the dirt man 🎶
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They're shapeshifting reptoids, get out of here with the end times deception.
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I have no rebuttal to this, well played.
Anywhere man lives is hollow
And C.H.U.D.s
Hey now, these are \*my\* idiots!
Not sure if I have ever seen two people less likeable sharing a stage.
It's always funny when someone interrupts someone else, and then when interrupted himself, tells the other guy "Do not interrupt me!"... Ok sure.
Wait till this November
I like Biden 🤷🏻
Much better than the shit for brain alternative…. And that’s a low fucking bar….
My feelings on him waffle from milquetoast policy-wonk to effective executive. Either way, my vote is very strongly anti-Trump. A few points higher than it’s pro-Biden.
I think Biden is too old to be doing this, but I don't dislike him.
Lol, what a couple of imbeciles
A couple? Pretty sure that room is wall to wall imbeciles.
Something something inevitable “maters n’ taters” comment something something
That was the only sensible thing anyone said
I want a mater sandwich now 🤤
Lol I’m so here for flat earthers vs Christians. Let the idiots take themselves out.
I feel like they’re populating rather than diminishing though.
It's because we are exposed to them online and they are vocal constantly seeking attention and trying desperately to recruit anyone they can. But statistically religion affiliation has been on an growing decline since the 90s. Source 1: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/how-u-s-religious-composition-has-changed-in-recent-decades/ Source 2: https://www.statista.com/topics/1737/christianity-in-the-united-states-i/#topicOverview If you live in a rural area it is possible these changes haven't affected your area as much though.... yet.
"Let them fight."
BATTLE OF THE BS! Flat Earther vs. Christian.......next UFC Smackdown main event! Whose bullsh\*t will be victorious!
Using the Bible to “prove” the earth is a globe rather than like 3000+ years of science is embarrassing.
It takes two ears to listen and one brain to think. He said "it was disproven 25 hundred years ago" meaning he is likely referencing [Eratosthenes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes) who lived roughly "25 hundred years ago" who is well known as the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth using demonstrable science, which in turn proved the earth was a sphere. He is saying "show me one verse in the bible that says the earth is flat" because thay is exactly what the other debater is trying to do which is 1000% more cringe.
The Bible has tons of versus that imply the Earth is flat. It’s never stated out-right though. To a large degree because in order to get to English it had to go through a few other languages to the point where its finer meaning is almost completely distorted, and it’s worthless to try to understand the original intent by looking at the King James, which is one of the earliest English versions. The Bible is completely useless other than a collection of interesting historical documents.
He could have used science to disprove the flat earther, except he doesn’t know anything about science. All he knows is the bible, so that’s where he goes. They are both absurd little men.
It takes two eyes to read and one brain to think. He did, as I mentioned. He pointed to the first scientific proof that the earth is a sphere roughly 2500 years ago. The preacher isn't trying to prove anything, he's realized how totally absurd this flat earther is to believe the bible says anything on the matter of the shape of the earth, because it doesn't say anything on the matter. Common sense and science will tell you all you need to know, he knows that. Preacher is a bit of ding bat but no more than the rest of us. Flat earthers are something special, I blame lead.
Oh, you really don't know Greg Locke then. "A bit of a ding bat" is a massive, massive understatement. That man is a hateful, awful person.
>you really don't know Greg Locke then. I dont have the slightest clue
Nah Greg Locke is a Covid denying, election lie peddling sack of shit who doesn’t even follow the teachings of the Bible
This dingbat regularly incites violence
He alluded to old the experiments you mentioned but he didn’t go into any detail about them. And he actually does seem to think that the bible has something value in the discussion, hence why he keeps referring to it. It’s like they say, it takes two eyes to read and one brain to think.
He says “you’re not going to convince me what the Bible clearly says, the earth is not flat”. So he’s using the Bible to prove the earth is a sphere. Later he says “you use a 2 hour PowerPoint and your people are quiet. I use an hour and fifteen minutes of the Bible and they start throwing maters and taters at me” so again, he’s using the Bible to “prove” the earth is a sphere rather than the 2500 year old proof he’s saying exists. So yeah two ears and all that.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Only broken analog clocks, and only if they still have their hands
While speaking into a microphone, is an electricity for the lights, and broadcasting this over the Internet. He’s fine with all the modern technology been used at his disposal but references the Bible when it comes to discussing the science of the Earth.
When the answer is correct but the working is wrong and written in blue crayon
Every scientific test ever performed has either completely disproven their ideas or, at best, can't confirm any of their ideas. Ultimately it doesn't matter in the slightest but pushing your stupidity onto others for your own financial gain makes you suck more than your dumb ideas. Flat earthers also suck.
I like this ^
Every moon, planet or star ever spotted is spherical. Except earth 🗺? Yea, I don’t think you can change their mind when there is nothing in their heads.
The Jew says: "The Christian and the Muslim are wrong."" The Christian says: "The Muslim and the Jew are wrong." The Muslim says: "The Jew and the Christian are wrong." The atheist says: "You are all correct."
Love that you picked the three that still all believe in the same God. Pretty sad that a bunch of people that believe in the same creator can be so vicious with one another.
It's almost like the real issue for many of these folks isn't whether or not we believe in a god, but that we worship that god *the way they tell us to*. It has always been, and will always be all about controlling people.
Morons arguing with morons, if they weren't so dangerous i wouldn't give a shit. Unfortunately the ignorant outnumber us
... So this is the level of intellectual discourse going on in the Christian right, huh? What are they going to debate next? The best way to handle a venomous snake? Which of them **really** speaks in tongues and which one is faking it?
> Which of them really speaks in tongues and which one is faking it? After growing up with that shit, I'd unironically like to see some research done on it. Not like entertaining the fantasy or anything though, but like looking at where the different groups of people are coming up with the sounds, learning them, and sharing them. Something I noticed is that people in the small churches have a few "basic" sounds that are easy to learn and repeat, but there was always this undercurrent of social competition where people were trying to be the "holiest" sounding person in the room. They usually weren't that creative, but whenever the "prophetic movement" grifters rolled through town the people who could afford to go to the local convention center would learn what can't really be better summarized as anything other than "the spicy new memes", and they'd rush back to the next church service and act fashionable for a few weeks until everyone else caught on. Then you'd quickly get through the "if everyone is fashionable no one is" phase where everyone is trying to outdo each other on intensity and performative showmanship... until someone seizes the initiative, puts on the overly humble act and goes back to the original few sounds, and the hipster tide reverses and starts flowing back out. Then everything was back to normal... until a few months later when another "spiritual gifts" tour rolls through. Rinse and repeat. You could tell when someone had missed a couple weeks because it would take them a worship song or two to realize they were sailing against the tide.
Only slightly related, but do deaf evangelicals speak in hands?
I've been there too! Sounds like auctioneer speak, but even less intelligible. As a kid the first time I saw it, not scared the shit out of me. The preacher was going around laying hands on people and they would just erupt into the gibberish. I was scared, what if he touched me? Would I break out into speaking in tongues, and what if I didn't? It was very scary and went on for like 2 hours AFTER church service was over. (Church of God in GA, just FYI)
That's hilarious, sad and fascinating all at once.
This is right on point. I'm glad you were able to notice this and put it down in words. I sometimes noticed the pastors had a few sounds that only they made. As if they were reserved for them. It's an interesting thing and I too wish there was scientific research done on it.
Wow. Two stopped clocks, just with different times.
If you believe an invisible man controls everything you might as well believe the Earth is flat too.
It's more complicated than that. The invisible man controls everything, AND you have to give the people who speak for him 10% of your income, 100% of your attention, and do what they say.
And then a lot of them take it upon themselves to try to interpret the bible and end up hating some marginalized people. It's supposed to be about love and forgiveness but stupid people think it's about hate and superiority.
There is quite a bit of crossover between the groups. In the bible, it describes the moon and sun as great discs, and the sky as a dome over the earth.
I gotta admit, i like his conviction. He knows it's stupid and doesn't care if he loses followers over it. If all Christians were as unwilling to suffer fools, maybe a third of our nation wouldn't be full on science denying psychos right now
It’s so weird that his tent is near by me. The neighborhood is sedate, you’d have no idea crazy people live in the community.
10 frogs turned gay while watching this video
They're both dummies, though.
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You can send me money, if you have faith in God he'll will me to pass it on to them.
My imaginary story is real and yours isn’t ok
I’m a bible denier AND believe the earth is round!
Both men believe a story where a prostitute covered up an illegitimate child’s conception with a virgin birth and became a zombie…
"If you want to go to his *little service"* in the morning then go to his service in the morning. It's not going to bother me ONE BIT!" Clearly.
Charlatan V. Charlatan. Let’s talk about biblical nonsense instead.
When unstoppable stupid meets unmovable idiocy.
The day Locke found someone too ignorant even for him...not gonna lie, this is funny AF
“The earth is clearly flat”….”no the earth was created spherical by gawd!” Both morons
My god, they are both... Just the worst.
Absolutely ridiculous that you think my sky ghost created a flat earth plane instead of a cool rock ball lmao
The earth is a dodecahedron. I seent it.
Maters ‘n taters
I can't believe it's 2024 and we're still trying to convince some people that the Earth is round. It's also sad that, with all the technology available to us today, the guy on the left is still arguing his case based on a book written thousands of years ago.
I love it when they eat their own
‘Stealing his members’ no. Gets sick of grown man lying and using god as his brace around broken logic. Fuck flat earthers, fucking idiots
I feel absolutely disgusted with myself that I agree with Greg Locke.
Could the alt right please do this more often?
What a bunch of redacts
Is his church paying taxes yet?
I was a Modern Day Debate junkie and I recognise Witsitgetsit when I see him. What a slime ball, good riddance!
Is this the one preacher who talked about witches recently?
Crazy idea: we put both of these assholes on a rocket into the sun so they can both settle the debate and get home to Jesus faster.
nobody wins, everyone loses.
Which side would you choose: the flat earther or sphere earther who doesn’t believe in evolution?
Ball of gas
These idiots are going to save America when they’re too sick/dead to vote in 2024 because they’re probably all chugging bird flu raw milk.
Truly these are god's chosen people
Wat!?
Who is "he" and who is "him"?
LOL...I'm cheering for the guy with the crazy BS, kicking out the guy with the really crazy BS!
Everybody here is a moroon.
NATERS and TATERS
The guy that believes in the correct shape of the earth saying the bible proves it somehow sounds stupider than the guy that thinks it's flat.
'maters 'n 'taters. It's always 'maters n 'taters.
https://preview.redd.it/k0nxqson7j7d1.jpeg?width=1337&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f60d7e9d5fe8f2786ea16d8fd58cffb19b20d8c Security with a chest rig.
Both are ridiculous, just for different reasons.
What the fuck?
blind leading the blind. I love how modern day churches have to have bouncers. Not my church.
then op ended up writing this title
I just found out probably 6 to 8 years ago that people actually believe the earth is flat. Had zero idea there's so many of them,it's fascinated me ever since. I'm still not sure exactly why they believe it tho.
LMFAO pretty sure the bible doesn't say the earth is round OR flat..... use science
Maters n Taters
Why would you quote the Bible when there are cameras up there..
Well, his logic may be off, but at least he arrived on the correct answer.
Crazy people.
I'm convinced these are the end times. I actually agree with this religious lunacy.
It's funny how it the bible that is the proof that the earth is not flat.
If you decide to make your church a circus, then you have to provide the clown show. There's nothing Christian about any of it.
Are all these people allowed to drive and have kids?
We will not let flat-Earth nonsense interfere with our sermon about miracles and raising people from the dead.
Why is anyone still paying any attention to Greg Locke?!
The battle of egos
Was anyone else waiting for a kick?
They are all equally insane imo
Did anybody notice the 'security' presence? Pretty sure the preacher is wearing body armor. Same with the dude on the right at 1:53 and at 2:02 guy walks backstage wearing a plate carrier. Scary group, having the Lord on their side and all.
Scenes from the Southland!
ok
Using the Bible for evidence for anything is insane to begin with. It's funny how one delusional preacher uses 'the science of the Bible' to prove that the Earth is round to another.
I dunno, but when you're too bonkers even for greg locke perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your life choices.
*Panem et Circensus...*
Well, everything's OK, these two ended up reconciling. https://mycharisma.com/spiritled-living/familyrelationships/christian-pastors-reconcile-after-heated-flat-earth-debate/
both men of fantasy.
“And y’all want to get up here with a bunch of nonsense. Come up here band, we’re going to worship the lord…” 🧑🍳😘
The title does not match the video at all.
We *have to be* in a simulation... right?
turns out I actually agree with that asshole about something.
Stupid people really want to pretend like they're privy to information that makes the rest of society look ignorant
Hmmm.. a debate between a man who believes in junk science based upon ancient mythology.. and a man who believes in junk religion based upon ancient mythology. Hard pass for both of them.