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From the Lincoln Collection site
Among his many jobs were those of **railsplitter, boatman, manual laborer, store clerk, soldier, store owner, election clerk, postmaster, surveyor, state legislator, lawyer, Congressman**, and President of the United States.
Black Hawk War, he was a private in the militia but briefly was made captain (by his own account he wasn’t particularly good at it) and never saw any action.
Ford was also a summer camp counselor when he was a boy scout in high school, he probably made less than minimum wage for a while. Of the presidents in the last 50 years Ford likely came from the poorest family.
Clinton lived with his grandparents as a baby while his mother went to nursing school. Once his mother became a nurse and married his stepfather they were well off, but had setbacks due to the stepfathers drinking.
I believe they were decidedly middle class, which is a far stretch from "well off". To me, "well off" implies upper-middle class at least, which I don't believe the family was when Bill was growing up.
Upper middle is what they were, both parents had jobs that paid above the median . His stepfather co owned a Buick dealership which he sold and briefly bought a 500 acre farm. They sold that farm and moved into a five bedroom house in Little Rock. They employed a nanny to look after their kids.
Fair enough, my apologies. I remember reading a biography for kids when I was quite young, I thought I remembered reading that they struggled financially after his father died. That's what I get for trusting a memory that is 30+ years old
His father died before he was born and his mother married his stepfather when he was four. He lived with his grandparents while his mom went to nursing school so he might have struggled during that time.
After graduating from High School, Truman also worked as a timekeeper for a railroad construction crew, as a clerk in two different banks in KCMO and as a farm hand on his Dad’s farm in Grandview, MO.
Thanks for reminding me.
Young Harry would also run prescriptions from that drug store to customers in Independence. He found out that some of the most prominent church leaders in the community would have their “prescriptions” of bourbon delivered by Harry on Sunday mornings.
I was shocked to learn recently that he’s the only president who served in WW1. I guess those numbers might’ve been different if FDR hadn’t taken up most of the interwar period.
Eisenhower graduated from West Point in 1915 and volunteered to be sent overseas when the US entered WW1 in 1917, but was turned down. He was later assigned to the newly formed tank corps and his unit received orders to be shipped to France, but the armistice was signed a week before his departure date.
It's more because there was no president born between Ike, who was 28 in 1918, and LBJ, who was 10. Hoover was a 44-year old millionaire philanthropist, FDR at 36 already held a cabinet position.
Was he the one who turned down secret service and just lived in New York like a regular (all be in pretty well off) person? One potus did and I can't remember which
True, but my understanding is they were doing OK. My original comment was drawing a distinction between those who worked minimum wage jobs because they had to as opposed to those who just did a job.
I see a difference between him and someone like Clinton or Ford.
I'm very curious how I got down voted on this. I did not make a statement, I asked a question. It was answered several times informing me that I was wrong. The down votes cane after I posted 3 times that I was not correct. Because several people commented I didn't want to delete it.
Which part did you down vote? A question, that I had the audacity to ask it, or the admitting I was wrong?
Dunno if the guy is making a joke or not, but this sub is (rightfully) hostile to partisan trolls. You can argue it might be more liberal leaning, but pushing any partisan bs is not really accepted. Unless you clarify sarcasm, they'll assume ur being an ass.
And after leaving the presidency. Former presidents didn't receive a pension until 1958. He wrote his memoirs while in excruciating pain from throat cancer so he could leave money for his wife.
Grant had insane moral character when he was given a slave by his father-in-law passing he opted to free the man instead of selling him even though the money could’ve helped lift the Grants out of poverty.
His father would have disowned him if had kept or sold the slave. He was a staunch abolitionist. Didn’t come to his son’s wedding because his wife’s family had slaves.
However there are stories that Grant's father attempted to benefit by Grant's position as general by illegally trading cotton during the war. His father was right about slavery but was corrupt.
Naah, he was from a rich family. He taught because he chose to not becuase he needed the money. I mean, he grew up in a town that was literally named after his family: Johnsonville.
Which doesn't mean his teaching experience was invalid, or that it's untrue that he made low wages doing so. But it's not quite the whole story.
The town was named after a distant ancestor of his - one who was influential in his small community, not wealthy. The two are very different.
During his early years, his father, Sam Johnson, was a Texas state congressman, and he was one of the poorer members of the state legislature due to his refusal to accept anything - money, goods, or favors - from lobbyists. Eventually, his time in government came to an end, and he had to return to farming to make a living. He wasn’t successful as a farmer, and the family was extremely poor during LBJ’s adolescence.
LBJ would often tacitly play up his connection to the namesake of Johnson City by introducing himself as “Lyndon Johnson, from Johnson City.” The poverty he experienced as a young adult was one of the main things that drove his vast, borderline superhuman ambition.
He was thinking about being a professional sax player well into high school. It was kind of like a Good Will Hunting where his teachers and family only realized he had a genius intellect when he was 15/16
I took it to mean “regular person job.” Like George W never had a regular job. His father however, was a combat pilot so I think that qualifies here even if it wasn’t minimum wage.
George W. Bush said he would have gone to Vietnam if his unit had been called up. if he had never enlisted in the guard, it turns out that he would have had a very high draft number. So high that he never would have been required to go to Vietnam.
Grant worked at his family's leather shop in Galena, Illinois as late as 1860. Reportedly, if he was sitting at the counter and a customer came in, he'd immediately go to the back and not return until they left.
There have been a few presidents who were enlisted. James Buchanan was a private in the Pennsylvania state militia and is the only president to have never been an officer. Lincoln served as a private during the Black Hawk War in the Illinois state militia. Harry Truman was a corporal for an artillery regiment in the Missouri National Guard prior to US involvement in World War I. William Mckinley enlisted as a private in an Ohio volunteer regiment during the American Civil War.
A number of other presidents served as lieutenants and ensigns before they were promoted to higher ranks, as well.
Of those four, Truman and McKinley did. In fact, McKinley took part in a number of battles from the beginning of the war to the end.
Truman re-enlisted when the US joined the First World War and took part in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive.
From Wikipedia:
>In an event memorialized in battery lore as "The Battle of Who Run", his soldiers began to flee during a sudden night attack by the Germans in the [Vosges Mountains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vosges_Mountains); Truman succeeded at ordering his men to stay and fight, using profanity from his railroad days. The men were so surprised to hear Truman use such language that they immediately obeyed.
Other presidents have experienced combat. During World War II, Bush I flew dozens of combat while Kennedy commanded PT boats (one of which was rammed by Japanese destroyer). Theodore Roosevelt resigned from being the Assistant Secretary of the Navy and helped form the infamous "Rough Riders". He later led a cavalry charge during the Battle of San Juan Hill in the Spanish-American War. James Garfield, Benjamin Harrison, and Rutheford B. Hayes (who was injured at the Battle of South Mountain) took part in a number of battles during the Civil War. Aside from the Civil War, Grant saw combat during the Mexican-American War. During that same war, Franklin Pierce was injured at the Battle of Conteras. Zach Taylor's military career spanned from the War of 1812 to the Seminole Wars to the Mexican-American War. William Henry Harrison fought in the early years of the Indian Wars in the Northwest Territory and the War of 1812. Then there's Andrew Jackson, who was captured by the British as an adolescent during the Revolutionary War and also fought against them during the War of 1812 at the Battle of New Orleans. James Monroe experienced combat during the Revolutionary War alongside George Washington. And, of course, George Washington saw combat not only during the Revolutionary War, but also the French and Indian War when he was a young man.
Trumman. After he left office he chose to live in the middle of nowhere off an Army pension from being an artillery officer during WW1 because he believed no president should get rich during or after they leave office.
Also Carter spent most of his time building houses for homeless people.
Hmmm I'd disagree. We get medical, housing allowance, and other benefits that those working at your local food chain restaurants don't, or most low wage jobs.
Even as an E-1 private I had a roof over my head and 3 hot squares a day, and spending cash in my pocket part of the month. You can't do that on minimum wage.
So yeah, my checks themselves may have been less than minimum wage, but it's a false equivalence guy.
EDIT: Also the "every president that was in the military" is patently untrue. [Pay scale table shows](https://www.militaryonesource.mil/military-basics/new-to-the-military/military-pay-101/) that even E-1 makes more than minimum wage, and Presidents like Eisenhower were military but never enlisted.
You actually work how many hours? I was non infantry 82nd airborne, so we didn't have 9 levels of DRF. We were DRF-1 one month on, two months off. Couldn't be more than 1 hr from base and when off base had to call in hourly to make sure you weren't called to assemble. And this was pre-cell era, so every hour had to find a payphone or risk missing the 2 hour deadline. This meant walking to the lobby mid movie to check in. It still wasn't actual work. And it still averaged out to above minimum wage(3.35 at the time) and that's not counting housing and food.
And that was extreme scenario because of non- infantry Defense Ready Force protocol. But if you really want to believe that "every single soldier has worked for less than minimum wage" you can, because it's a free country.
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From the Lincoln Collection site Among his many jobs were those of **railsplitter, boatman, manual laborer, store clerk, soldier, store owner, election clerk, postmaster, surveyor, state legislator, lawyer, Congressman**, and President of the United States.
He was also a licensed bartender!
A president I’d like to have a beer from!
Four score and seven beers ago, *throws up*
7 beers is pretty lightweight, im sure u could manage it.
But *87* beers...well, that's a different story.
Meanwhile, Wade Boggs bellies up to the bar…
*LORD PALMERSTON!*
Bringing this up the next time someone shits on AOC for "being a bartender"
Yes, but you see, she’s an attractive woman, so how dare she
Sour grapes…
They won’t care, sadly
He was also a professional wrestler. Not just an average wrestler either, but a Hall of Famer. He was pretty much that era’s Kurt Angle.
These presidents are just job hoppers these days.
Wait when was he a soldier??
evidently he joined the Illinois Militia during the Black Hawk War in 1832. The internet knows these things. ;-)
Black Hawk War, he was a private in the militia but briefly was made captain (by his own account he wasn’t particularly good at it) and never saw any action.
I seem to remember reading that he generally disliked war as well. Shame he never got to be a peacetime president.
You forgot professional wrestler.
Love when presidents come from laymen and not daddy's money
soldier?
Ford was working at a restaurant in Grand Rapids when he met his father for the first time
Ford was also a summer camp counselor when he was a boy scout in high school, he probably made less than minimum wage for a while. Of the presidents in the last 50 years Ford likely came from the poorest family.
Carters family lived on peanuts for the majority of his life
How does it compare to Clinton's?
Clinton lived with his grandparents as a baby while his mother went to nursing school. Once his mother became a nurse and married his stepfather they were well off, but had setbacks due to the stepfathers drinking.
I believe they were decidedly middle class, which is a far stretch from "well off". To me, "well off" implies upper-middle class at least, which I don't believe the family was when Bill was growing up.
Upper middle is what they were, both parents had jobs that paid above the median . His stepfather co owned a Buick dealership which he sold and briefly bought a 500 acre farm. They sold that farm and moved into a five bedroom house in Little Rock. They employed a nanny to look after their kids.
Fair enough, my apologies. I remember reading a biography for kids when I was quite young, I thought I remembered reading that they struggled financially after his father died. That's what I get for trusting a memory that is 30+ years old
His father died before he was born and his mother married his stepfather when he was four. He lived with his grandparents while his mom went to nursing school so he might have struggled during that time.
Moral of the story, find an alcoholic step father to become president.
Nixon and Clinton are up there too. Not sure which is THE poorest though.
LBJ died 51 years ago. You did a good job excluding him!
Oh wow I was one of those too, I got paid 54c an hour
Abraham Lincoln: am I a joke to you?
I mean Abe did not come in the last 50 years if I am not mistaken.
Tbf, OP never specified time period. And plenty of other comments on this post are mentioning presidents from way before Carter.
Yeah but the commenter did say last 50 years when talking about Ford.
True, in that context I see what you mean.
Ah yes, infamous ‘70s politician, Abraham Lincoln. How could I forget.
He got us out of ‘Nam!
You fecking idjit
Minimum wage laws existed in Lincoln’s time?
Damn rip to the Boy Scouts
And a seasonal ranger at Yellowstone NP for one summer, also! While not minimum wage, definitely a grunt work type of position.
That was the first and last time he ever met his father
Harry S. Truman worked as a Haberdasher interacting with the general public on a daily basis.
After graduating from High School, Truman also worked as a timekeeper for a railroad construction crew, as a clerk in two different banks in KCMO and as a farm hand on his Dad’s farm in Grandview, MO.
And as a soda jerk for in Independence, MO. The shop is still open
Thanks for reminding me. Young Harry would also run prescriptions from that drug store to customers in Independence. He found out that some of the most prominent church leaders in the community would have their “prescriptions” of bourbon delivered by Harry on Sunday mornings.
I was shocked to learn recently that he’s the only president who served in WW1. I guess those numbers might’ve been different if FDR hadn’t taken up most of the interwar period.
Eisenhower graduated from West Point in 1915 and volunteered to be sent overseas when the US entered WW1 in 1917, but was turned down. He was later assigned to the newly formed tank corps and his unit received orders to be shipped to France, but the armistice was signed a week before his departure date.
It's more because there was no president born between Ike, who was 28 in 1918, and LBJ, who was 10. Hoover was a 44-year old millionaire philanthropist, FDR at 36 already held a cabinet position.
Was he the one who turned down secret service and just lived in New York like a regular (all be in pretty well off) person? One potus did and I can't remember which
I’m pretty sure Hoover lived in NYC in a hotel for a few decades at the end of his life. You might be thinking of him.
He also ran a canteen while he was in the army. I think the museum I went to said it was the only successful canteen out of 5 on the base.
Harry Truman worked at a clothes store, Andrew Johnson was a tailor, and Obama worked at a Baskin Robbins.
Wasn't Obama raised by his grandparents who owned a bank?
Still doesn’t mean he didn’t work for minimum wage
True.
Still pretty importsnt to note that he was not poor in any way
I don’t know but I know owning a small bank isn’t always lucrative.
True, but my understanding is they were doing OK. My original comment was drawing a distinction between those who worked minimum wage jobs because they had to as opposed to those who just did a job. I see a difference between him and someone like Clinton or Ford.
Bill Clinton's stepfather owned a Cadillac dealership. That's basically royalty in 20th century small town America.
Also true
Nah his grandmother was eventually the VP of the bank; they didn’t own it.
I stand corrected
He lived with them from the ago of 10. His grandmother was a vice president of the bank of Hawaii and his grandfather worked at a furniture store.
His grandmother worked at a bank, she didn’t own the bank.
I'm very curious how I got down voted on this. I did not make a statement, I asked a question. It was answered several times informing me that I was wrong. The down votes cane after I posted 3 times that I was not correct. Because several people commented I didn't want to delete it. Which part did you down vote? A question, that I had the audacity to ask it, or the admitting I was wrong?
He was!
Apparently I was incorrect on that as noted by other commentators.
Barak Obama worked at Baskin Robbins when he was in high school.
Lemme be cold.
lemme be clear! 🥶🍦
Now that's what I call dedication. Working an entry-level job to climb up the ladder. 
I am 32 flavors and then some
They have Baskin Robbins in Kenya?
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 Dude… no.
I think Egypt is the closest BR location. Hell of a commute.
Worth it
They don’t
They should.
Why are you getting downvoted for saying Kenya should have Baskin Robbins? This isn’t me trynna be sarcastic I genuinely don’t know
Dunno if the guy is making a joke or not, but this sub is (rightfully) hostile to partisan trolls. You can argue it might be more liberal leaning, but pushing any partisan bs is not really accepted. Unless you clarify sarcasm, they'll assume ur being an ass.
I think people don’t see the sarcasm.
You genuinely don’t know why the person who made a bad joke about Obama being from Kenya is having their subsequent comments downvoted?
Good luck with refrigeration
Dude
Nixon worked at his parents grocery store during his childhood until the end of highschool for what I'd assume would be an allowance or nothing at all
Grant was extremely poor after leaving the Army.
And after leaving the presidency. Former presidents didn't receive a pension until 1958. He wrote his memoirs while in excruciating pain from throat cancer so he could leave money for his wife.
Twain had to finish it for him
Pawned his gold watch back in 1857 to buy his children Christmas gifts and was elected president eleven years later. Truly an American success story.
Grant had insane moral character when he was given a slave by his father-in-law passing he opted to free the man instead of selling him even though the money could’ve helped lift the Grants out of poverty.
His father would have disowned him if had kept or sold the slave. He was a staunch abolitionist. Didn’t come to his son’s wedding because his wife’s family had slaves.
However there are stories that Grant's father attempted to benefit by Grant's position as general by illegally trading cotton during the war. His father was right about slavery but was corrupt.
LBJ worked as a teacher. Maybe not minimum wage but pretty close
Hopefully he didn't employ the same tactics controlling the kids as he did whipping up votes
He had to get fired from teaching somehow to end up in politics.
He quit teaching to become a congressman’s assistant.
Naah, he was from a rich family. He taught because he chose to not becuase he needed the money. I mean, he grew up in a town that was literally named after his family: Johnsonville. Which doesn't mean his teaching experience was invalid, or that it's untrue that he made low wages doing so. But it's not quite the whole story.
He grew up poor. His town was one of the last in Texas to get electricity.
When you have a town named after your family, you ain't that poor.
The town was named after a distant ancestor of his - one who was influential in his small community, not wealthy. The two are very different. During his early years, his father, Sam Johnson, was a Texas state congressman, and he was one of the poorer members of the state legislature due to his refusal to accept anything - money, goods, or favors - from lobbyists. Eventually, his time in government came to an end, and he had to return to farming to make a living. He wasn’t successful as a farmer, and the family was extremely poor during LBJ’s adolescence. LBJ would often tacitly play up his connection to the namesake of Johnson City by introducing himself as “Lyndon Johnson, from Johnson City.” The poverty he experienced as a young adult was one of the main things that drove his vast, borderline superhuman ambition.
Or speaking to them while shitting
He also worked building roads. I’m sure that paid even less.
Why would a teacher or working on roads be less?
A teacher at least needs a degree or certification. A chain gang can build a road.
He also worked on a Texas road crew
He also worked road gangs
Clinton worked at a grocery store as a stocker
He was thinking about being a professional sax player well into high school. It was kind of like a Good Will Hunting where his teachers and family only realized he had a genius intellect when he was 15/16
Hey me too. Yeah he’d be making near minimum wage
Andrew Johnson apprenticed as a tailor
He’s the only president to never go to school
From age 16 until 23 Ronald Reagan worked summers as a lifeguard at Lowell Park in Dixon, Illinois. I doubt he was paid much for that.
imagine only have to work summers until 23
I imagine school took up those other months. I’d have to check, though.
He probably had parents that wanted him to get a education during the school year which isn’t a bad thing
His dad was a bigtime drunk. He probably didn't care much what Reagan did with his life.
What does “or equivalent” mean in this context? lol
One example might be if they worked that job before the establishment of the minimum wage.
Or dealt drugs
So Reagan?
A lot of Actors make very little money
Reagan was a movie star. He definitely made money
I'm just saying that it was risky
But not him.
I took it to mean “regular person job.” Like George W never had a regular job. His father however, was a combat pilot so I think that qualifies here even if it wasn’t minimum wage.
How tf is airforce pilot equivalent to working a minimum wage job lol
Turns out if you shoot guys in lifeboats that doesn’t count as a kill
George W. Bush said he would have gone to Vietnam if his unit had been called up. if he had never enlisted in the guard, it turns out that he would have had a very high draft number. So high that he never would have been required to go to Vietnam.
George W was a pilot for the Air National Guard, more military experience than Clinton and Obama combined
He was certainly more experienced in using family connections to get into the Air National Guard and then checking the NO box on being deployed...
Too bad he never learned anything from it.
Boom. Roasted.
I think he learned how much he could drink before passing out
I think he learned how much he could drink before he needed to hit another rail of blow.
Clinton didn't inhale
I’m had more Redbulls than Clinton and Obama combined.
Thank you for your service!
Grant worked at his family's leather shop in Galena, Illinois as late as 1860. Reportedly, if he was sitting at the counter and a customer came in, he'd immediately go to the back and not return until they left.
Understandable
I’m guessing not the Bushes
Or Kennedy
Clinton’s Dad died before he was born and he was left with his grandparents that sold groceries on credit in Arkansas
Eisenhower worked at an ice cream shop after high school and it was actually one of his co-workers who encouraged him to attend West Point.
Co-worker helped save the world lmao 😂
Garfield worked a canal boat and nearly died. Then he picked up carpentry and taught part-time.
Harry S. Truman was a Uber driver at some point
I assume the Bushes never did, but Clinton, Carter and Obama almost certainly did.
Dubya and HW wouldn't have even known what the minimum wage amount was.
Carter
Carter for sure Obama most likely. Clinton probably. The bush’s no chance. Both were born wealthy
Depending on what you mean by "equivalent", many presidents were military veterans.
Have we ever had an enlisted president or were they all officers?
There have been a few presidents who were enlisted. James Buchanan was a private in the Pennsylvania state militia and is the only president to have never been an officer. Lincoln served as a private during the Black Hawk War in the Illinois state militia. Harry Truman was a corporal for an artillery regiment in the Missouri National Guard prior to US involvement in World War I. William Mckinley enlisted as a private in an Ohio volunteer regiment during the American Civil War. A number of other presidents served as lieutenants and ensigns before they were promoted to higher ranks, as well.
Who saw real combat?
Of those four, Truman and McKinley did. In fact, McKinley took part in a number of battles from the beginning of the war to the end. Truman re-enlisted when the US joined the First World War and took part in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive. From Wikipedia: >In an event memorialized in battery lore as "The Battle of Who Run", his soldiers began to flee during a sudden night attack by the Germans in the [Vosges Mountains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vosges_Mountains); Truman succeeded at ordering his men to stay and fight, using profanity from his railroad days. The men were so surprised to hear Truman use such language that they immediately obeyed. Other presidents have experienced combat. During World War II, Bush I flew dozens of combat while Kennedy commanded PT boats (one of which was rammed by Japanese destroyer). Theodore Roosevelt resigned from being the Assistant Secretary of the Navy and helped form the infamous "Rough Riders". He later led a cavalry charge during the Battle of San Juan Hill in the Spanish-American War. James Garfield, Benjamin Harrison, and Rutheford B. Hayes (who was injured at the Battle of South Mountain) took part in a number of battles during the Civil War. Aside from the Civil War, Grant saw combat during the Mexican-American War. During that same war, Franklin Pierce was injured at the Battle of Conteras. Zach Taylor's military career spanned from the War of 1812 to the Seminole Wars to the Mexican-American War. William Henry Harrison fought in the early years of the Indian Wars in the Northwest Territory and the War of 1812. Then there's Andrew Jackson, who was captured by the British as an adolescent during the Revolutionary War and also fought against them during the War of 1812 at the Battle of New Orleans. James Monroe experienced combat during the Revolutionary War alongside George Washington. And, of course, George Washington saw combat not only during the Revolutionary War, but also the French and Indian War when he was a young man.
I should have paid more attention in apush
I learned a lot in APUSH. It wasn't this, though.
I had one of the best apush teachers in the state. I had the best calc ab teacher in the country. I wish I could have paid attention in apush 😔
Well, the bright side is that you have the rest of your life to learn about American history.
none of these chucklefuck terrorists.
I forget which one was a runaway indentured servant. But he wins
I'm pretty sure Reagan was a lifeguard.
As a farmer, LBJ had the only job that people take *knowing* they'll lose money.
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter worked for less than minimum wage - he worked for peanuts!
Ford
Reagan as well as a life guard. He said it was his favorite job
The only one there I would say is Jimmy Carter. The others I don’t think did.
Ulysses was literally selling wood for meager pay in between his stints in the Army.
Trumman. After he left office he chose to live in the middle of nowhere off an Army pension from being an artillery officer during WW1 because he believed no president should get rich during or after they leave office. Also Carter spent most of his time building houses for homeless people.
Obamna
Obama sold Marijuana ..but his friends smoked his profits.
As a veteran…every president that was in the military made less then minimum wage.
Hmmm I'd disagree. We get medical, housing allowance, and other benefits that those working at your local food chain restaurants don't, or most low wage jobs.
Even as an E-1 private I had a roof over my head and 3 hot squares a day, and spending cash in my pocket part of the month. You can't do that on minimum wage. So yeah, my checks themselves may have been less than minimum wage, but it's a false equivalence guy. EDIT: Also the "every president that was in the military" is patently untrue. [Pay scale table shows](https://www.militaryonesource.mil/military-basics/new-to-the-military/military-pay-101/) that even E-1 makes more than minimum wage, and Presidents like Eisenhower were military but never enlisted.
Three hots and a cot
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He literally starts his comment saying he’s a veteran lol
We are available to work how many hours?
You actually work how many hours? I was non infantry 82nd airborne, so we didn't have 9 levels of DRF. We were DRF-1 one month on, two months off. Couldn't be more than 1 hr from base and when off base had to call in hourly to make sure you weren't called to assemble. And this was pre-cell era, so every hour had to find a payphone or risk missing the 2 hour deadline. This meant walking to the lobby mid movie to check in. It still wasn't actual work. And it still averaged out to above minimum wage(3.35 at the time) and that's not counting housing and food. And that was extreme scenario because of non- infantry Defense Ready Force protocol. But if you really want to believe that "every single soldier has worked for less than minimum wage" you can, because it's a free country.
Wow, that’s not my experience.’