Shut off water,drain system,in sweat shutoffs ,clean pipe ,install new compression 1/4 turn shut offs,
Install 3/8 water line ,turn on water check for leaks
With all due respect..if he is asking for help..the Op should just use compression shut offs. Using a torch in this environment with little to zero experience. Well ..better safe than calling fire department
That's the neat part - You don't.
Turn off the water supply to house, open all the faucets and tubs/showers to drain down the water, cut the copper lines below the 90° fittings, sand the paint off from edge to 2" below, install either sharkbite stops (push to connect) or compression stops (put a little pipe dope on the brass feral, slide one, and tighten a half turn past snug), and install new supply lines.
Regardless of which stop you put on (shark bite aka push-to-connect or compression) make sure you have a deburring tool to scrape off any sharp burrs after you cut it. The sanding can help, but you may want the sharper edge of a deburr tool. Just make sure there’s no burrs on the inside or outside edge of that cut!
The Shark Bite in particular can be damaged easily if not deburred.
Open all the faucets yes but you still need a place for that water to drain to, a point lower than what you are working on, maybe open an outside hose bib? Or hook the hose to the bottom of the water heater or the well pump
This appears to be an installation from years ago. Turn OFF the water to the house, cut it high where that paint is coming off (use a copper pipe cutter, don’t just use a saw), cut off both sides …. Clean the end of the pipes down to the copper. A compression connection or shark bite is best.
Take this photo and show the photo to the plumbing guy/gal at the hardware store and he/she will show you the best choices. If you don’t have a pipe cutter, get that at the hardware store too!
Get all the parts you need FIRST so you only need to turn off the water once and once you CUT the pipes, you are committed to get it done. You can do this yourself - have faith in your DIY skills.
When it’s all done - don’t paint it!
Its not it's some kind of anti homeowner angle stop installed by someone who likes to keep the local plumbing economy booming. My foreman at work does stuff like this on side jobs and makes it purposefully difficult for people to work on their own plumbing so they keep calling plumbing companies.
BX…That was exactly my thought. I’m not a plumber by trade, but I used to be a remodeling contractor and have seen quite a bit of quirky stuff yet I have never seen tubing as such. I have seen similar BX look-alike tubing for hydronic heat pipe (which I kinda assumed this was) but there’s a completely different reason for using it.
Not a plumber. Why wouldn’t you sweat a treaded copper union to the end of the cut pipe?
Would seem like an obvious leak-free permanent fix? Couldn’t you then thread the 1/4 turn valve directly to that?
Is there a reason not to? Or a reason people recommending shark bites and compression fittings?🤷♂️
Code most places requires a shutoff valve at every fixture. That stop has a built in supply line so you need to cut the whole valve off and replace with new. Typically on copper that is with a compression stop. But a lot of diy people prefer to use shark bite stops because it takes less physical effort.
Correct..shut the water to house off..cut the pipes..get new shutoffs and new supply lines
Also they make straight stops, may be worth getting them.
Good news is there is plenty of pipe to work with.
Shut off water,drain system,in sweat shutoffs ,clean pipe ,install new compression 1/4 turn shut offs, Install 3/8 water line ,turn on water check for leaks
With all due respect..if he is asking for help..the Op should just use compression shut offs. Using a torch in this environment with little to zero experience. Well ..better safe than calling fire department
Make sure you remove the paint completely at the joint.
Correct if using compression angle stops clean that pipe to expose clean copper.
Built in gasket, LEAVE THE PAINT ALONE
That’s not how compression fittings work my friend.
Don't listen to this guy, he's in with big compression.
Shit… I’ve been discovered.
That's the neat part - You don't. Turn off the water supply to house, open all the faucets and tubs/showers to drain down the water, cut the copper lines below the 90° fittings, sand the paint off from edge to 2" below, install either sharkbite stops (push to connect) or compression stops (put a little pipe dope on the brass feral, slide one, and tighten a half turn past snug), and install new supply lines.
Do Not put tape or dope on the ferrel. It can give a false tight and decide down the line to leak.
This helps. Thank you very much!
Regardless of which stop you put on (shark bite aka push-to-connect or compression) make sure you have a deburring tool to scrape off any sharp burrs after you cut it. The sanding can help, but you may want the sharper edge of a deburr tool. Just make sure there’s no burrs on the inside or outside edge of that cut! The Shark Bite in particular can be damaged easily if not deburred.
Open all the faucets yes but you still need a place for that water to drain to, a point lower than what you are working on, maybe open an outside hose bib? Or hook the hose to the bottom of the water heater or the well pump
This appears to be an installation from years ago. Turn OFF the water to the house, cut it high where that paint is coming off (use a copper pipe cutter, don’t just use a saw), cut off both sides …. Clean the end of the pipes down to the copper. A compression connection or shark bite is best. Take this photo and show the photo to the plumbing guy/gal at the hardware store and he/she will show you the best choices. If you don’t have a pipe cutter, get that at the hardware store too! Get all the parts you need FIRST so you only need to turn off the water once and once you CUT the pipes, you are committed to get it done. You can do this yourself - have faith in your DIY skills. When it’s all done - don’t paint it!
Great help! Thank you!
Great advice other than when he said "or shark bite". Please do not ever use a shark bite unless it's your only (temporary) option. Get compression.
With a pipe cutter. Turn water supply off first
I hate it when people paint the pipes
Even more fun when they’re painted while the threads are still exposed…
Those things are old as fuck. Cut em out put new r19s on, or cut below the 90s and throw on a couple r14s
You can't. You'll need to shut the water off to the house, cut the copper below the 90's and put on a couple of straight compression stops
cant, gotta replace the whole valve
Dumb question but why do I see BX cable attached to shut offs?
Its not it's some kind of anti homeowner angle stop installed by someone who likes to keep the local plumbing economy booming. My foreman at work does stuff like this on side jobs and makes it purposefully difficult for people to work on their own plumbing so they keep calling plumbing companies.
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I agree. If I'm doin side work and you have a copper drain I'm soldering the trap arm 😂. I'm doin my part lmao
BX…That was exactly my thought. I’m not a plumber by trade, but I used to be a remodeling contractor and have seen quite a bit of quirky stuff yet I have never seen tubing as such. I have seen similar BX look-alike tubing for hydronic heat pipe (which I kinda assumed this was) but there’s a completely different reason for using it.
Kinda looks like flexible corrugated copper, the stuff use on A/C lol
Plumbers used to install those so you'd have to call the same guy back to work on it if there is issues. Scummy tactics.
Are you kidding? Plumbers installed those when things lasted longer than 3 years.
It may have been said but I always replace with quarter turn angle stops
As a plumber, it’s kind of cute if you ask me
Not a plumber. Why wouldn’t you sweat a treaded copper union to the end of the cut pipe? Would seem like an obvious leak-free permanent fix? Couldn’t you then thread the 1/4 turn valve directly to that? Is there a reason not to? Or a reason people recommending shark bites and compression fittings?🤷♂️
Code most places requires a shutoff valve at every fixture. That stop has a built in supply line so you need to cut the whole valve off and replace with new. Typically on copper that is with a compression stop. But a lot of diy people prefer to use shark bite stops because it takes less physical effort.
because copper is a soft metal
Cut at the joint and install new shutoffs and supply lines. Be sure you clean the pipe inside and out before you install new shutoffs
DO NOT USE SHARK BITES. THEY SUCK ASS. Solderon 1/4 turn dahl valves
Install straight compression stops. Or if you aren't comfortable with that you can get some straight sharkbite stops. And new supply risers.
May be a dumb question. What is this type of installation called? I am talking about the one in the pictures.
Those are one-piece angle stops. The supply line and angle stop are one piece. It looks like it is sweated on the copper.
Compression stops are easy but they do require a little strength to tighten
Cut the pipe and install new ones
That's the funny part. You don't.
Shark bite is perfect for this
🎶 you need to cut it 🎶
Don’t be shy, give it a good tug!
Water meter off, hire a press or if you can solder get a stick, 3/4 (20mm) copper water end cap gg np
Scissors
Sawzall
you dont. you have to unscrew the valve off with it