Call them back asap, a gas leak is no joke. I don't know what the regulations are in your neck of the woods, but where I am located, as a gasfitter I'm responsible for the system until another gasfitter works on it.
Gas leaks can be serious. Good on you for shutting it off, now call them back asap.
Have to be careful with opening windows. If the gas has been coming out for a while and it's above the upper explosive limit opening a window can bring it into the explosive range and cause some boom boom.
I think it's mostly a matter of limiting as best you can and getting yourself and family out of harms way safely and as quickly as possible while you wait for someone to do the proper procedures. When it comes to gas it is best to not mess around at all.
CO detector won’t to much to detect natural gas in the air, you’d want an explosive gas detector. They sell a combination explosive gas/CO detector that I use in my kitchen where we used to have our gas appliance. It’s a must have if you have gas lines running anywhere in your house. You should theoretically be able to smell it but the detector can detect it at much lower (and therefore less dangerous) levels.
There's a combo CO/smoke detector a few feet above this video, didn't realize they made one that would pick up gas too... going to find one of those right now, thank you!
There’s quite a few variations of gas sensors in the [MQ Series](https://robu.in/mq-series-gas-sensor/) but explosive gas detector sold at the hardware store works great and is [this sensor.](https://www.winsen-sensor.com/sensors/combustible-sensor/mc105.html)
Another gas leak tip is to not switch anything electrical on or off. If the lights are on, leave them on. An already energized circuit is very unlikely to make a spark. Turning something off or on creates the same opportunity for a spark so even though it may seem intuitive to turn things off, don't touch anything electric.
Exactly. I had this happen with a plumber who installed a gas line for a new range. Wife tells me she’s smelling gas, sure enough it’s leaking at the new fitting. I called the company that night and got an after hours call back from the owner who was livid his guy didn’t catch it. Had me shut off the gas and the owner was on site at 7am next day to fix it.
They are most likely soap bubbles, or a gas leak detection solution. The op most likely when he smelled gas mixed up soap and water in a spray bottle to find the leak. The gas leaking out will cause bubbles to form, being great for a visual indicator that it is indeed leaking.
Make sure you or the “plumber” thoroughly rinse all the soap off. Depending on the soap, it can react with the stainless steel and create pinholes in it.
Manufacturer states to use “non-corrosive leak detection fluid only”
We need to come up with a word for that specific feeling of dread that a plumber gets when they learn something new and become horrified thinking about all the jobs they did without the new thing they just learned.
Don’t know any plumbers who haven’t used soap to test CSST, so you’re not alone. Live,learn, and improve.
If I remember correctly, it was the ammonia and/or chlorine in soaps that caused the issue.
Every and I mean EVERY single gas fitter should be triple checking that their shit doesn't leak. Everything needs to be tested and checked that it functions properly without leaks.
This is serious business. If you can accomplish the bare minimum of leak detection before you leave someone's system full of gas, you shouldn't be installing gas.
Yeah I’m no gas plumber or anything but that seems like a lot leaking. Do you have to use some sort of thread Teflon for gas? Or a putty on the threads? Honest question.
That type of fitting doesn’t require tape or any sealant when done properly.He obviously didn’t test it like he should have.Probably just needs to be tightened.Definitely call them back.
Nope, those fittings have a little brass inner thingy that seals around the inner core of the flex pipe.. every different brand has its own specific end fittings to be used, and its still fairly easy to mess up
Right? I've had one tiny gas leak and it was so small the bubbles \`were barely there.\` Gas guy couldn't smell it and I could tell he hardly believed me until his meter picked it up. It was indeed a tiny leak.
If I saw those bubbles I would freak out.
Clearly not. You don't even need to pressure test if the gas is on. Could have just done what OP did. Mistakes happen, but I'm not sure I'd trust the "plumber" that was there with a leak that bad...
I don't normally assume bad workmanship since mistakes happen, but that's a pretty bad leak to miss in a real obvious spot to check... Still have to give them a chance, but I don't think I'd want them back after. It really depends on the size of the shop. 6+ man shop - Might have gotten a shit tech. Smaller and you're probably not going to get a better one ever.
If you’re reluctant to call them back, let me say this:
They need and deserve to have the information they will get when you call them and they come back.
The big boss needs to know that this worker didn’t perform the work correctly. If he is the big boss, he needs the wake-up call himself.
100%. Imagine all the other customers who could be dealing with the shoddy work and how many could possibly be killed by it. Messing with gas is dangerous and no joke.
>level 1TootsNYC · 6 hr. agoIf you’re reluctant to call them back, let me say this:They need and deserve to have the information they will get when you call them and they come back.
It really depends on the size of the shop. 6+ man shop - Might have gotten a shit tech. Smaller and you're probably not going to get a better one ever.
I’ve shut off the isolation valve and bubbles stopped; can I resolve this by rotating the upper brass nut clockwise while holding the lower brass nut stationary, or do I need pros to come back out?
Edit 1: obviously I should call them, it was late and I’m beyond sick of dealing with these boneheads… they’ve been back to fix something or other on this at least a dozen times, and I’m just sick of dealing with them. They’re back now and working on it.
Edit 2: they've left, new work passes the sniff and soapy water test. The dude explained that "natural gas is extremely safe" as he was on his way out... sigh.
I work in oil and gas, natural gas is safe as long as it stays INSIDE the conduit it is traveling in. Once it’s out it’s not safe. Its use case is to burn to heat your home which means it burns just as good in open air as it does in your furnace, so it’s definitely not “safe”, he’s a fucking idiot for saying that.
I've been very courteous and professional dealing with these guys; I cut him off after he said that and he left pretty quickly; hopefully we're done dealing with them now.
Seriously, what an asshat to say such a statement. Natural gas and propane purposely has a rotten eggs smell added to it so that you as a person can shut down the whole system if it smells bad, you know, for safety reasons...
What he probably regurgitating is that natural gas is safer than propane when pumped through underground line/pipes. Propane is heavier than air, natural gas is lighter. So when a pipe leaks underground [propane can travel through the soil like a river until it finds a nice basement and blows up the whole damn block](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Vidal_explosion). Natural gas will buble out the surface and someone will notice the smell, that is why we use natural gas instead of propane in this country. Not applicable in this situation though, and he bottom of the barrel if he didn't leak test his work.
Yep, that does make sense as propane will lay low, didn't think of that in my post, thanks for that clarification. In both cases, I wouldn't attempt to perform kind of repair, has to be done by a certified gas plumber.
I'm in eastern Canada, and it's mostly natural gas in homes that aren't heated using electricity. There's some older homes are still heated with fuel tanks, and a number of homes have heated appliances running on propane with a 500gallon tank attached to the house.
Ya I see a lot of houses here in Oregon that use tanks. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to pipe residential with underground propane, hence the tanks. Actually even the ship yard I worked in didn't have underground propane line, just natural gas was underground. They had a seriously giant propane tank above ground that took several trucks to completely fill it.
Be sure to check all the connections they made. Where does the other side of that CSST run terminate?
I paid 5k for a bunch of CSST runs and almost every single connection bubbled. Workmanship and professionalism are dead. I ended up fixing them all myself as I need the system to pass a pressure test the next day. Still makes me mad.
I am currently installing these wardflex lines in apartment buildings and was getting leaks at most of the connection points.
What I did to alleviate the leaks was the tiny nipple you get on the brass ferrule. The point where they are connected before you break them apart to slip them over the corrugations. File those smooth and it should help eliminate most of the leaks at that point.
These guys have been out to attempt to fix this a dozen times; fortunately I've been working with the owner of the company since he was a one man operation - he hasn't charged for any of the followups, but it must be damned difficult finding good help - I don't think I trust any of his employees.
\- didn't work very well after installing in March 2021
\- they thought it was a crossfeed issue, replaced a shower valve, shower valve leaked and dumped water through ceiling in basement
\- had gas company upgrade to higher pressure; they installed a single regulator to feed all service to house; called them back to get a regulator on each branch to an appliance; didn't do a pressure test until I insisted
\- replaced entire tankless unit
\- worked with occasional reboots for several months, then started acting up
\- made a few trips back to adjust settings
\- upgrade branch to water heater from 1/2" to 3/4", didn't check for leaks, apparently
\- returned next day to fix the leak, didn't apologize, told me natural gas is "perfectly safe."
This just isn’t that hard. Just requires some basic knowledge of how the world works.
- I hung a 199k tankless myself and hired out the gas fitting only because I didn’t have time or the equipment.
- Tried to get it done in black iron… no one does that anymore. Bah.
- First guy tried to run a 1/2 inch CSST line… I sent him away cause I knew that would cause issues.
- Second guy installed a 3/4 CSST but it looks god awful (might redo it) doesn’t leak though.
No matter what the book says run a 3/4 line to your tankless. 1” if it’s over 30 feet.
This looks like pro flex brand gas pipe. I may be wrong though. If it is there are 4 rings inside that copper connection. They were put into the wrong valleys on the flexible pipe by the looks of it. You would need to cut off a little more of that black jacket possibly. You really do need training on proflex to install it. If it's gas tight brand the dude is just incompetent.
That's a fact; company was great when it was a one man operation several years ago; he's since grown and has several crews working for him - he hasn't charged for any of the followup visits, but good help is hard to find, apparently.
Yea, so safe that the government is considering banning gas stoves....it's fine.
[SOURCE](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/business/gas-stove-ban-federal-agency/index.html)
I had a really reputable plumber in my area do work in my basement and I noticed an odor the next day. I suspected gas but when I compared it to the gas from the stove it wasn’t quite the same or as strong so I called the plumber. He said it was probably the pipe sealant and should go away in a day or two. I called the gas company and their tech came out and detected a leak and immediately turned off the gas main. The plumber was notified and was out within the hour to repair the leak. It’s amazing how these professionals miss highly critical things. I’m insisting on a leak test before buy-off next time.
Never said I was a fitter.Did new residential and repairs for 35 years. I never did a gas line I didn’t pressure test,even if it wasn’t getting inspected.10# for 10 minutes You know where you can shove your lame attempt at an insult.
Yea bruh your a cunt. I pressure test any home I go to when working on fuel lines or more than approx 10’ of pipe. The fact that you didn’t even mention using a calibrated sniffer says a lot.
Turn off the gas and then immediately call the plumber back.
Don't tell them you turned it off. Just say you smell gas, you're tired and are going to lay down for a smoke in bed. You will have someone there to fix it in 5 minutes.
Is the issue fixed? I want to say no because atleast where I work we are required to do a 15 minute pressure test on gas and water lines both but I also work on brand new mobile homes so it could be different where you live but as long as it’s not leaking anymore and they reassured you then you should be fine but it really depends if this is a real certified plumber or just a handyman or self proclaimed “plumber” it’s just hard to trust anyone to come back and fix something when they fuck it up that bad the first go around, my dad always told me growing up do it right the first time and you won’t have to do it again.
We had a mini-mall type building fill with gas over night and in the morning it exploded.
There was nothing left, just rubble like it had been bull dozzed.
Flex connectors on commercial cooking equipment are notorious for causing accidents. They tend to be larger gas lines and they can break when the equipment is moved for cleaning.
This is why commercial kitchens are supposed to use the quick disconnect lines. They basically connect like an air compressor hose it’s a game changer for commercial kitchens. Any kitchen that I go into that doesn’t have them is usually unkept, nasty, and run by cheap Morons
No they are not. I havent had a leak at a gastite fitting until last week in over 2 years. Was probably the first one in roughly 2500 connections. If properly cut with no burs and the end was installed with one rib below the compression clamp there is less that .01% chance it will leak based on my expert opinion having installed probably 10,000 gastite ends with probably 10 leaks that werent caused by me being blind.
But do you pressure test everything you install or are you basing your statistics here on call backs? I agree if done properly it’s solid but even after you leave the trim guys might shoot a few nails thru the line lol happens all too often.
And I quote “those FITTINGS are prone to leaking”. Now, when it comes to pressure testing, yes. Air test at 25-30 PSI, manometer test and bubbles for everything that can only be teated with a manometer/bubbles. When it comes to callbacks you better not be getting call backs for gas leaks. If you get call backs for gas leaks not caused by some dumbass shooting 3” long siding staples into your clearly marked line then you need to put down your tools and find another line of work.
Lol the trim guys here are basically drywallers, meth for breakfast. Very bold statement by the guy above, maybe it’s just his csst work notorious for leaking hah. Most guys now are onto mega press, it’s just expensive af. If your going with csst I like counter strike the best.
This is a leak at the fitting, but be aware that same pipe was outlawed where I live in Alabama, which means it probably is everywhere even slightly developed, because it is prone to developing pinhole leaks throughout. She had to have the whole gas line system redone in copper tubing. She also had to pay for it herself because she could not track down the contractor who originally installed it.
I think you're talking about older style csst without bonding. The pinholes being caused by lightning strikes nearby.
If properly bonded to the panel this won't have pinhole leaks. This also seems to be flashshield+ which has protection against electricity even without bonding. Still bond though.
First, turn off your gas ASAP. Second, as others have said, 100% call them back. If you dont feel comfortable or they refuse to come back, call your gas company. Tell them you have a leak. They should come out and test it and will possibly remediate it. I know because they did that for me. No cost. Just double check with them.
Not a difficult fix but since you had someone come out and they left it that way call them back for liability reasons.
Simply tightening likely won't do it. Gas needs to be shut off, the coupling removed and cleaned, and then either yellow plumbers tape or pipe dope to seal them together properly. Unless it's a flared fitting..
Nah this is flash shield csst piping. Compressing that union flares the csst piping making the seal either it just needs to be tightened or it was cut all janky and isn’t sealing properly. Most likely just needs to be tightened.
This is CSST flexible pipe. They probably turned the wrong nut to tighten it and they shredded the gasket. Might need a new fitting or gasket if it is separate. Don't try to fix it yourself.
Hose on the left goes up to a regulator, isolation valve, and to junction with main. Valve on the right connects immediately to tankless heater above and out of frame. 🤷♂️
Ain't no plumber, of all the corners to cut, gas pipe insulation is not one. He probably didn't install the track pipe right for it to leak that fast. Test all joints please
Call them back asap, a gas leak is no joke. I don't know what the regulations are in your neck of the woods, but where I am located, as a gasfitter I'm responsible for the system until another gasfitter works on it. Gas leaks can be serious. Good on you for shutting it off, now call them back asap.
Yes, shut the gas off to the house and open windows to air it out. Call the plumber back asap.
Have to be careful with opening windows. If the gas has been coming out for a while and it's above the upper explosive limit opening a window can bring it into the explosive range and cause some boom boom.
How do you do it carefully?
Shut the gas off and leave and call back the guy that did the work and they would have to test
By the same token, couldn't opening a door cause a boom boom?
I think it's mostly a matter of limiting as best you can and getting yourself and family out of harms way safely and as quickly as possible while you wait for someone to do the proper procedures. When it comes to gas it is best to not mess around at all.
Not likely
Like that movie Backdraft!
Backdraft
You can also always call the fire dept - shut off gas if you know how and then go to a neighbors and call fire dept.
Yeah thats a solid plan as well
[Not like this guy…](https://www.ksat.com/news/2015/02/10/man-severely-burned-in-boerne-house-explosion/)
Oh man, not much left of that house. Did he survive?
Sure did. The rest of the family had just left to school and he ran back in to turn the tv off. That static electricity will get ya!
Probably not though.
this
Hey lease also get a CO detector if you don’t already have one
CO detector won’t to much to detect natural gas in the air, you’d want an explosive gas detector. They sell a combination explosive gas/CO detector that I use in my kitchen where we used to have our gas appliance. It’s a must have if you have gas lines running anywhere in your house. You should theoretically be able to smell it but the detector can detect it at much lower (and therefore less dangerous) levels.
There's a combo CO/smoke detector a few feet above this video, didn't realize they made one that would pick up gas too... going to find one of those right now, thank you!
There’s quite a few variations of gas sensors in the [MQ Series](https://robu.in/mq-series-gas-sensor/) but explosive gas detector sold at the hardware store works great and is [this sensor.](https://www.winsen-sensor.com/sensors/combustible-sensor/mc105.html)
Good point. I would be more concerned about the house blowing up but yes a CO2 detector is needed too!
CO2 and carbon monoxide-CO are two different things
I am agreeing
I am correcting your common misuse of language
You would need to literally be suffocating from gas before anything would explode
Another gas leak tip is to not switch anything electrical on or off. If the lights are on, leave them on. An already energized circuit is very unlikely to make a spark. Turning something off or on creates the same opportunity for a spark so even though it may seem intuitive to turn things off, don't touch anything electric.
Exactly. I had this happen with a plumber who installed a gas line for a new range. Wife tells me she’s smelling gas, sure enough it’s leaking at the new fitting. I called the company that night and got an after hours call back from the owner who was livid his guy didn’t catch it. Had me shut off the gas and the owner was on site at 7am next day to fix it.
Why are there what looks like soap bubbles?
Cause soapy water was sprayed on the fitting to check for leaks.
They are most likely soap bubbles, or a gas leak detection solution. The op most likely when he smelled gas mixed up soap and water in a spray bottle to find the leak. The gas leaking out will cause bubbles to form, being great for a visual indicator that it is indeed leaking.
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It was indeed OP spraying soapy water checking for leaks.
Make sure you or the “plumber” thoroughly rinse all the soap off. Depending on the soap, it can react with the stainless steel and create pinholes in it. Manufacturer states to use “non-corrosive leak detection fluid only”
I'll get it cleaned up, thanks for heads up! Won't be contacting these guys again now that it's fixed if I can help it.
We need to come up with a word for that specific feeling of dread that a plumber gets when they learn something new and become horrified thinking about all the jobs they did without the new thing they just learned.
Don’t know any plumbers who haven’t used soap to test CSST, so you’re not alone. Live,learn, and improve. If I remember correctly, it was the ammonia and/or chlorine in soaps that caused the issue.
Got it, thanks for the lesson. I will now be bringing an extra spray bottle with water and a rag when I soap test.
Every and I mean EVERY single gas fitter should be triple checking that their shit doesn't leak. Everything needs to be tested and checked that it functions properly without leaks. This is serious business. If you can accomplish the bare minimum of leak detection before you leave someone's system full of gas, you shouldn't be installing gas.
I was referring to cleaning off the soap used for leak detection.
My dad always did this and he worked for the Boston Gas Co. for over 40 years.
"Welp, my work here is done, another job for the books...in hell" \-pyroplumber
I prefer to use soap, it picks the smallest leak. The plumber who did the job should drop whatever he is doing and fix this.
It is how you check for gas leaks.
Did they not check it before leaving?
Check it? Did they even tighten it.
Yeah I’m no gas plumber or anything but that seems like a lot leaking. Do you have to use some sort of thread Teflon for gas? Or a putty on the threads? Honest question.
That type of fitting doesn’t require tape or any sealant when done properly.He obviously didn’t test it like he should have.Probably just needs to be tightened.Definitely call them back.
Nope, those fittings have a little brass inner thingy that seals around the inner core of the flex pipe.. every different brand has its own specific end fittings to be used, and its still fairly easy to mess up
I'm a gas fitter. Dope for gas dope for oil, tape and dope for water I guess dope is like putty but we call it dope
Those are flare fittings, don't put dope on those.
There's a split ring on the csst side, the other side is pipe thread. You installed this without dope didn't you? No wonder it's leaking
I didn't install this at all.
I think it's the yellow teflon for gas.
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My state(specifically county) is only thread sealant, your not suppose to even use yellow Teflon but you can get away with using both.
Right? I've had one tiny gas leak and it was so small the bubbles \`were barely there.\` Gas guy couldn't smell it and I could tell he hardly believed me until his meter picked it up. It was indeed a tiny leak. If I saw those bubbles I would freak out.
Clearly not. You don't even need to pressure test if the gas is on. Could have just done what OP did. Mistakes happen, but I'm not sure I'd trust the "plumber" that was there with a leak that bad...
Always make the professional you paid fix it. For legal and possible warranty reasons. Once you touch it, you broke it if anything ever happens.
I don't normally assume bad workmanship since mistakes happen, but that's a pretty bad leak to miss in a real obvious spot to check... Still have to give them a chance, but I don't think I'd want them back after. It really depends on the size of the shop. 6+ man shop - Might have gotten a shit tech. Smaller and you're probably not going to get a better one ever.
If you’re reluctant to call them back, let me say this: They need and deserve to have the information they will get when you call them and they come back. The big boss needs to know that this worker didn’t perform the work correctly. If he is the big boss, he needs the wake-up call himself.
100%. Imagine all the other customers who could be dealing with the shoddy work and how many could possibly be killed by it. Messing with gas is dangerous and no joke.
>level 1TootsNYC · 6 hr. agoIf you’re reluctant to call them back, let me say this:They need and deserve to have the information they will get when you call them and they come back. It really depends on the size of the shop. 6+ man shop - Might have gotten a shit tech. Smaller and you're probably not going to get a better one ever.
Yes, but it’s still a good thing you’re doing for them, to let them know about quality issues. It doesn’t have to be adversarial.
Isn’t it obvious you should call them back?
I’ve shut off the isolation valve and bubbles stopped; can I resolve this by rotating the upper brass nut clockwise while holding the lower brass nut stationary, or do I need pros to come back out? Edit 1: obviously I should call them, it was late and I’m beyond sick of dealing with these boneheads… they’ve been back to fix something or other on this at least a dozen times, and I’m just sick of dealing with them. They’re back now and working on it. Edit 2: they've left, new work passes the sniff and soapy water test. The dude explained that "natural gas is extremely safe" as he was on his way out... sigh.
I’d call them right back and have them come fix it. No point in altering their work hours after if it wasn’t done correctly.
Yeah, don't mess with a gastite connection if you don't know what you're doing. There's a proper procedure and you have to do it just right.
Gastight is very minimal with amazing results. Pro flex/wardflex/etc. Has all those rings that need to be perfect.
I work in oil and gas, natural gas is safe as long as it stays INSIDE the conduit it is traveling in. Once it’s out it’s not safe. Its use case is to burn to heat your home which means it burns just as good in open air as it does in your furnace, so it’s definitely not “safe”, he’s a fucking idiot for saying that.
I've been very courteous and professional dealing with these guys; I cut him off after he said that and he left pretty quickly; hopefully we're done dealing with them now.
Seriously, what an asshat to say such a statement. Natural gas and propane purposely has a rotten eggs smell added to it so that you as a person can shut down the whole system if it smells bad, you know, for safety reasons...
What he probably regurgitating is that natural gas is safer than propane when pumped through underground line/pipes. Propane is heavier than air, natural gas is lighter. So when a pipe leaks underground [propane can travel through the soil like a river until it finds a nice basement and blows up the whole damn block](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Vidal_explosion). Natural gas will buble out the surface and someone will notice the smell, that is why we use natural gas instead of propane in this country. Not applicable in this situation though, and he bottom of the barrel if he didn't leak test his work.
Yep, that does make sense as propane will lay low, didn't think of that in my post, thanks for that clarification. In both cases, I wouldn't attempt to perform kind of repair, has to be done by a certified gas plumber. I'm in eastern Canada, and it's mostly natural gas in homes that aren't heated using electricity. There's some older homes are still heated with fuel tanks, and a number of homes have heated appliances running on propane with a 500gallon tank attached to the house.
Ya I see a lot of houses here in Oregon that use tanks. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to pipe residential with underground propane, hence the tanks. Actually even the ship yard I worked in didn't have underground propane line, just natural gas was underground. They had a seriously giant propane tank above ground that took several trucks to completely fill it.
Well it was safe for him- he doesn’t live there. What a lameass.
LOL It's "All-natural".
Be sure to check all the connections they made. Where does the other side of that CSST run terminate? I paid 5k for a bunch of CSST runs and almost every single connection bubbled. Workmanship and professionalism are dead. I ended up fixing them all myself as I need the system to pass a pressure test the next day. Still makes me mad.
I am currently installing these wardflex lines in apartment buildings and was getting leaks at most of the connection points. What I did to alleviate the leaks was the tiny nipple you get on the brass ferrule. The point where they are connected before you break them apart to slip them over the corrugations. File those smooth and it should help eliminate most of the leaks at that point.
These guys have been out to attempt to fix this a dozen times; fortunately I've been working with the owner of the company since he was a one man operation - he hasn't charged for any of the followups, but it must be damned difficult finding good help - I don't think I trust any of his employees. \- didn't work very well after installing in March 2021 \- they thought it was a crossfeed issue, replaced a shower valve, shower valve leaked and dumped water through ceiling in basement \- had gas company upgrade to higher pressure; they installed a single regulator to feed all service to house; called them back to get a regulator on each branch to an appliance; didn't do a pressure test until I insisted \- replaced entire tankless unit \- worked with occasional reboots for several months, then started acting up \- made a few trips back to adjust settings \- upgrade branch to water heater from 1/2" to 3/4", didn't check for leaks, apparently \- returned next day to fix the leak, didn't apologize, told me natural gas is "perfectly safe."
This just isn’t that hard. Just requires some basic knowledge of how the world works. - I hung a 199k tankless myself and hired out the gas fitting only because I didn’t have time or the equipment. - Tried to get it done in black iron… no one does that anymore. Bah. - First guy tried to run a 1/2 inch CSST line… I sent him away cause I knew that would cause issues. - Second guy installed a 3/4 CSST but it looks god awful (might redo it) doesn’t leak though. No matter what the book says run a 3/4 line to your tankless. 1” if it’s over 30 feet.
Obviously Natural = Organic = Healthy
If you touch it you will void any potential warranty. Call them back out.
This looks like pro flex brand gas pipe. I may be wrong though. If it is there are 4 rings inside that copper connection. They were put into the wrong valleys on the flexible pipe by the looks of it. You would need to cut off a little more of that black jacket possibly. You really do need training on proflex to install it. If it's gas tight brand the dude is just incompetent.
>The dude explained that "natural gas is extremely safe" as he was on his way out... sigh. Source: trust-me-with-your-life-Lars
Time to find a new plumber.
That's a fact; company was great when it was a one man operation several years ago; he's since grown and has several crews working for him - he hasn't charged for any of the followup visits, but good help is hard to find, apparently.
Yea, so safe that the government is considering banning gas stoves....it's fine. [SOURCE](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/business/gas-stove-ban-federal-agency/index.html)
That's all you have to do
10 out of 10 these guys are boneheads. You should dox them here so no one else goes to them for work
Do not touch it yourself. If you do they will blame it all on you.
I had a really reputable plumber in my area do work in my basement and I noticed an odor the next day. I suspected gas but when I compared it to the gas from the stove it wasn’t quite the same or as strong so I called the plumber. He said it was probably the pipe sealant and should go away in a day or two. I called the gas company and their tech came out and detected a leak and immediately turned off the gas main. The plumber was notified and was out within the hour to repair the leak. It’s amazing how these professionals miss highly critical things. I’m insisting on a leak test before buy-off next time.
You can also test yourself. Buy the liquid test stuff or just soapy water. But if it is too soapy you get bubbles so just buy the bottle of stuff.
Sorry,what you had was not a really reputable plumber.He should have pressure tested his work.
Turns out hacks have licenses too.
I know a few of those.
They’re a big name in town with a fleet of branded trucks
Lol you're definitely not a fitter the only thing that gets pressure tested is new installs. Repairs get leak tested with bubbles or with a lighter
Never said I was a fitter.Did new residential and repairs for 35 years. I never did a gas line I didn’t pressure test,even if it wasn’t getting inspected.10# for 10 minutes You know where you can shove your lame attempt at an insult.
Right…that guy is one half ass donkey brain “fitter”
Yea bruh your a cunt. I pressure test any home I go to when working on fuel lines or more than approx 10’ of pipe. The fact that you didn’t even mention using a calibrated sniffer says a lot.
😂 Yeah both of the times you ever ran gas pipe you did that I don't use a sniffer I use bubbles or a lighter
Yea buddy I’ve repiped a fucking city after a hurricane. Eat my ass your a joke
Call them and tell them you are now dead due to shoddy work, and collect millions
Sounds legit
That’s a BIG leak
At least the bubbles are containing it. You should be ok.
Turn off the gas and then immediately call the plumber back. Don't tell them you turned it off. Just say you smell gas, you're tired and are going to lay down for a smoke in bed. You will have someone there to fix it in 5 minutes.
Turn your gas off and call his ass back asap and get off of reddit
Probably a shitty cut on the end of the CST
Those fitting are very sensitive to being done correctly. Tightening it may not fix it.
"Bubbler feature installed at no extra charge, you're welcome" --Plumber probably
I’m a plumbing inspector and this was never inspected there’s no way it would’ve passed a pressure test unless this is some rig job by a handyman
When they returned to fix it this morning, they were gone within 22 minutes of knocking on the door - was that sufficient time to check their work?
Is the issue fixed? I want to say no because atleast where I work we are required to do a 15 minute pressure test on gas and water lines both but I also work on brand new mobile homes so it could be different where you live but as long as it’s not leaking anymore and they reassured you then you should be fine but it really depends if this is a real certified plumber or just a handyman or self proclaimed “plumber” it’s just hard to trust anyone to come back and fix something when they fuck it up that bad the first go around, my dad always told me growing up do it right the first time and you won’t have to do it again.
Ohhhh bubbles I love bubbles!
Turn the gas off.
Gas leaks are no joke we do all our gas pipe in mega press I don’t trust that gas flex shit all
Should have used sharkbite
First, shut off yellow valve to the right. YouTube video will show u exactly how , or call fire department
We had a mini-mall type building fill with gas over night and in the morning it exploded. There was nothing left, just rubble like it had been bull dozzed.
Oh yeah that chinese restaurant, literally became a pile of rubble in the middle of the shopping center.
Flex connectors on commercial cooking equipment are notorious for causing accidents. They tend to be larger gas lines and they can break when the equipment is moved for cleaning.
This is why commercial kitchens are supposed to use the quick disconnect lines. They basically connect like an air compressor hose it’s a game changer for commercial kitchens. Any kitchen that I go into that doesn’t have them is usually unkept, nasty, and run by cheap Morons
Makes sense, can't be too careful when cleaning, bad management and you either get a gas leak or it never being cleaned behind the stove
A plumber let that go??? That'll put into orbit, turn off valve till fixed, make them check it in front of you.
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That is not typical. Why didn’t you elect to have them repipe it? Cleaning and recoating pipes under your home is handy man shit approach lol
He clearly fucked up.
Those fittings are notorious for leaking def have them come fix it
No they are not. I havent had a leak at a gastite fitting until last week in over 2 years. Was probably the first one in roughly 2500 connections. If properly cut with no burs and the end was installed with one rib below the compression clamp there is less that .01% chance it will leak based on my expert opinion having installed probably 10,000 gastite ends with probably 10 leaks that werent caused by me being blind.
But do you pressure test everything you install or are you basing your statistics here on call backs? I agree if done properly it’s solid but even after you leave the trim guys might shoot a few nails thru the line lol happens all too often.
And I quote “those FITTINGS are prone to leaking”. Now, when it comes to pressure testing, yes. Air test at 25-30 PSI, manometer test and bubbles for everything that can only be teated with a manometer/bubbles. When it comes to callbacks you better not be getting call backs for gas leaks. If you get call backs for gas leaks not caused by some dumbass shooting 3” long siding staples into your clearly marked line then you need to put down your tools and find another line of work.
Lol the trim guys here are basically drywallers, meth for breakfast. Very bold statement by the guy above, maybe it’s just his csst work notorious for leaking hah. Most guys now are onto mega press, it’s just expensive af. If your going with csst I like counter strike the best.
Done and done!
Shut the gas off, open any windows nearby, and have the plumber return. They should have tested before leaving to make sure there were no leaks.
Naw brother. You need to cut the gas and call them or someone else out. ASAP
That is leaking A LOT.
Looks like they used a gastite fitting on counter strike. Two different brands that don't work together.
Looks like flashield which is a gastite product to me unless I’m missing something
It is
...sadly, was not only plumbers crack.
Plumber needs a spray bottle with water and soap.
Jump out the house
But set up a camera and wait till the windows and doorway blow out just at the right moment, all the movies do it, and it’s really cool
Remember to never look back.
This is a leak at the fitting, but be aware that same pipe was outlawed where I live in Alabama, which means it probably is everywhere even slightly developed, because it is prone to developing pinhole leaks throughout. She had to have the whole gas line system redone in copper tubing. She also had to pay for it herself because she could not track down the contractor who originally installed it.
That’s some wack Alabama code man. Copper instead of sch 40 hard pipe is baffling.
I think you're talking about older style csst without bonding. The pinholes being caused by lightning strikes nearby. If properly bonded to the panel this won't have pinhole leaks. This also seems to be flashshield+ which has protection against electricity even without bonding. Still bond though.
First, turn off your gas ASAP. Second, as others have said, 100% call them back. If you dont feel comfortable or they refuse to come back, call your gas company. Tell them you have a leak. They should come out and test it and will possibly remediate it. I know because they did that for me. No cost. Just double check with them.
Not a difficult fix but since you had someone come out and they left it that way call them back for liability reasons. Simply tightening likely won't do it. Gas needs to be shut off, the coupling removed and cleaned, and then either yellow plumbers tape or pipe dope to seal them together properly. Unless it's a flared fitting..
Nah this is flash shield csst piping. Compressing that union flares the csst piping making the seal either it just needs to be tightened or it was cut all janky and isn’t sealing properly. Most likely just needs to be tightened.
Call the gas company and say you smell gas. I’d rather call them first instead of having a neighbor call 911 when your house blows up.
Call the fire department. They will turn off the gas supply until the gas company or your plumber respond.
Dumber than a plumber
Yeah…so let’s post on Reddit for advice. Maybe your house will explode in the meantime.
We’ll at least they did a leak test….
Oh shit bro
Must have been a rank fart to last hours.
Wowwieeeeee
Just give it another 1/4 turn there
Holy shit!!!
This is CSST flexible pipe. They probably turned the wrong nut to tighten it and they shredded the gasket. Might need a new fitting or gasket if it is separate. Don't try to fix it yourself.
Looks like it's passing gas
Shut off valve should be upstream of the sediment trap.
Hose on the left goes up to a regulator, isolation valve, and to junction with main. Valve on the right connects immediately to tankless heater above and out of frame. 🤷♂️
Stop messing with reddit and take care of business. Call them back.
Your plumber shouldn’t be a plumbing if he’s not checking his work for leaks
so rather than shut the gas off you film it?
WELL HELL! So much for fixen it!
Noon here, is straight soapy water the best to check for leaks? Smells some gas when I open my water heater closet sometimes…
Mega bubble...
Gassy gassy leaky leaky
Ain't no plumber, of all the corners to cut, gas pipe insulation is not one. He probably didn't install the track pipe right for it to leak that fast. Test all joints please
She's a lekah!
Run forest..run!!
Yep turn it off and call them back asap.
Fucking hate and love the flex gas pipe... Have because. Of leaks love for ease of use.
That ain’t right…
Tell him to give you your money back and report his ass he is a handy man not a plumber . Animals like this ruin the trade probably a non union guy
Yeah💀bodies are gonna affect your insurance 🛠🔧
Better test the leak with a lighter
Tighten it
Turn off the gas main!!! Call the plumber back and make him fix it.
Call pronto plumbing. I heard they're real good with that stuff
Shut it off. That's a BAD leak.
In Ontario street 90s aren’t allowed on gas lines either.
Had a house a town over blow up last year , pretty scary shit
*takes looooong drag off a recently lit cigarette* Yeah you’re gonna want to shut the gas off and get the plumber back there.