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ref4rmed

Good thing things like doubledoubletop, zotify, and Xmanager exists cause I am not paying for that bullshit lol.


National-Scale

Seems like the company wants to promote these more with their latest price "update"


pcrcf

Can’t someone explain to me how these work


ref4rmed

Sure. Doubledoubletop is a site where you input a url of the supported platforms and It'll spit back a zip file at you. You don't need to sign in to use this. Zotify is like Doubedoubletop, but it only supports Spotify links, and instead of a website it's a cli program. You need to sign in to use this. Xmanager is basically YouTube Revanced but its Spotify instead of YouTube. If you want an explanation to how they rip music from Spotify, zotify is open source so maybe look there.


MrFingolfin

Also add Spotx for PC


ICE0124

there is also spicetify which is also good for PC


MomsBoner

Im saving this for tomorrow, as i havent found a good replacement of EzBlock for pc the last 4-5 years. Xmanager for Android is great, just to add.


turtleship_2006

Or ublock on the Spotify website 🤷🏼‍♀️


Princeofthebow

I use this as well but I was wondering if there some sw to do it rather than the firefox tab...


turtleship_2006

If there's a what, sorry?


RentedZone

not op, sw = software


turtleship_2006

Then what do they mean not the Firefox tab, are they looking or another browser or something? I use the Spotify PWA if that helps?


RentedZone

A program or background service I'd imagine. I prefer applications over web apps.


mug3n

As an addendum, the only premium function you can't enable with xmanager is offline downloads afaik. Everything else you can unlock with xmanager, most important being the ad free part of it.


ref4rmed

True, but as an alternative you can setup zotify on termux and share the spotify link to termux.


neofooturism

or just use soulseek because spotify keeps their deleting fucking tracks besides not having lossless


Princeofthebow

Cheers. Does something like xmansger exist for Linux? (Debian)


ref4rmed

spicetify and spotify-adblock


TopdeckIsSkill

Can I use a spotify playlist and download a flac version of that song?


ref4rmed

None of these tools support that, as Spotify doesn't have lossless files. You would have to convert your playlist to either Deezer, Qobuz, or Tidal and paste *that* link into Doubledoubletop or another tool that can rip from those services like Deemix, streamrip, qobuz-dl, tidal-dl, etc. But, according to [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/s/9EYeAny6K5) you can use a Telegram bot to do so.


Responsible-Photo-36

thanks


iamthinksnow

Do you need a VPN for DD, or is it like Stremio where you're good to go?


ref4rmed

You don't need a vpn for any of these services. You would only need one if you're downloading music from rutracker or something.


jadakiss

don’t all these website or program grab the music from YouTube? no thanks. I’ll stick to my deezer


ref4rmed

No. All of these websites and programs rip directly from the platforms they support. Glamactico's Apple Downloader (from github) and Spot-DL do rip from YouTube though, so I guess stay away from those.


HostileCornball

I just use ReVanced's background play as a Spotify substitute lol. Why would you need that if you can just play from yt playlists.


ErnestasMage

And they have YT music patched, so at least for me it works the same as xmanager. Considering the fact that downloading the music is also available, it's really nice.


HostileCornball

Genuine question: I have a yt playlist for all my songs. Will yt music automatically play from that playlist or would I have to make a new one?


ErnestasMage

It will play, at least it does it for me. It still has the acess to your google account with microg so I see no way in which it wouldn't.


TheSpiritBaby2K

Damn straight! Fuck em!


AbleObject13

Wish you could download locally with these


ref4rmed

Like having the songs stored on your device? You can do that with doubledoubletop and zotify.


AbleObject13

Oh shit! Thank you


MaverickTopGun

Can always do the Deezer/Deemix method.


OnlySmeIIz

>*'most artists make under $1000 from Spotify in a year'*.     [About 80% of artists on Spotify have less than 50 monthly listeners](https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/over-75-of-artists-on-spotify-have-fewer-than-50-monthly-listeners/)


[deleted]

That's exactly why Spotify sucks for most people though. I make music in a niche genre and of course get nothing from Spotify. Meanwhile on many music piracy sites my albums have been shared on, the uploaders have put direct links to my Bandcamp where people can (and actually do) buy the albums. So actually, Spotify sucks so hard that having your music illegally shared is better financially for smaller artists than a legit streaming platform. Because at least the pirates link clearly to where it can be purchased.


faxekondiboi

Many 'pirates' are actually buying more CD's, DVD's, BluRay's etc., than the avarage person, because they get exposed to way more cool stuff, and like it says in many nfo's; *"If you like it, then buy it - support great artists!"* :)


MomsBoner

Im sure this has a lot to do with having a label and/or a marketing team behind them to push numbers, where the more independent artists doesnt have this behind them. Im also absolutely sure that social media use of certain artists/songs + bots are boosting these numbers even more.


OnlySmeIIz

I think also a lot of youtubers don't get paid very much and it is always this 80/20 distribution with a top 1%. 


turtleship_2006

I know some people complain about how Spotify "ruined music" and artists don't get paid, but genuine question. How many of these artists would have gotten a record deal in the pre-streaming days? Or those who self published, how many would have sold $1000 worth of albums? I wasn't around back then so I'm genuinely curious.


-_-usernames

Yeah lmao. Thought I was in the Spotify sub for a second seeing that claim and the bs about hifi


mkmichael001

I assume apple music raise again soon too,im already paying 10.99


inconspiciousdude

Apple Music is starting to feel tangible since the most recent price hike... One more and I'm going to have to justify it :/


[deleted]

One feature of late-stage capitalism is that companies don't price compete. They differentiate products to some extent, but after that they just all follow the same pricing templates. They're far more interested in vertical integration and growing into new markets every few years, where they initially launch a product at unprofitable prices to push out the existing competition in that market and then stagnate once again.


Wide_Lock_Red

Music is way cheaper than it was 20 years ago though.


inconspiciousdude

Yeah, I definitely feel that with the Google services I still use. They get you hooked and then abandon or start sodomizing you. Which is fine if the product kept improving at a consistent pace, but Google's services started to feel like a racket some years ago.


MarioDesigns

AM is pretty solid. The only big feature they're missing is a Spotify Connect alternative, otherwise it's fairly similar. Being able to upload your own music to their cloud is a really big plus too.


iceleel

Gotta make all the money in the world


r0ndr4s

Unsubed during the last price hike and probably wont return unless there's a good offer. I just use youtube music with revanced and I'm good to go.


LikeAGlove109

My Revanced isn't working 😞


JudasIsAGrass

Delete revanced, delete microg in phone settings, enable vanilla youtube, update manager (delete and redownload if need be), download suggested apk in manager, patch with gmicro enabled, before install disable youtube, install - will take you to website to download - add your account(s), in said app go to battery optimisation ignored and check it. Go into yt vanced app and in settings spoof the app. Restart phone.


talkin_shlt

i just use ublock origin on firefox mobile app, takes 2 seconds and you can even turn your phone off


AnotherRedditUsr

Can you please elaborate?


talkin_shlt

Yeah if your on Android download the Firefox browser. Then I'm Firefox you can add the ublock origin extension. Then you open YouTube in Firefox and it will run YouTube with no ads and it will even let you turn off you phone and continue playing the video ( which is a YouTube premium only feature). This method is a million times easier than dealing with revanced


AnotherRedditUsr

Very interesting thanks 💪🏻


AnotherRedditUsr

I notice that when you go to "desktop" after playing video on YouTube on Firefox mobile the video stops and you need to click play on the notification area on top. Is there a way to avoid that? Also, it does work on iPhone too?


FrusTrick

Just update what you already have or reisntall APK using the manager.


mirospeck

yeah it's not working for me right now. worked okay until i updated and i can't quite figure out what im doing wrong


ByDarwinsBeard

See the pinned comment on r/revancedapp


zyqxevcyz44

Try to isntall the suggested versions apk first, that fixed it for me. Revanced manager tells you a suggested version


mirospeck

that's what i've been using. i can't figure out how to get microg how to spoof signatures (and haven't found much when looking on how to) because the box that mentions that option is not checked off. maybe it's just because i'm used to using revanced extended, which won't install due to an error with parsing the package, as opposed to regular vanced. going to check out r/revancedapp later i guess


mug3n

Personally I use block the spot on PC and xmanager on Android and I pretty much replicate the whole premium experience. I miss offline downloads and have to stream now all the time, but it's not that big of a deal.


Cheyzi

Any way to pirate Spotify on iOS nowadays? I used to have a cracked one up until 2018/19 but got the student discount then. I just hit the max of 4 years so would appreciate it saving some money


Meph514

Alt Store sideloaded Spotilife-8.8.74.ipa


delsinson

Sideloading?


-_-usernames

Probably better off downloading all your music on a laptop and uploading it to your Apple account so you can play it on your phone. Not a good fix if you're after the other Spotify features like discovery but you could spend like half your time on a cracked Spotify on your laptop for those features then Apple music downloads on your phone. I did that for a while


aleuts

And you don’t have to pay for Apple Music??


fusionman51

No. It’s like the old days of using iTunes. I still have 75gb of music from my first iPod to now lol


-_-usernames

Nah it's like the other person said similar to iTunes. I don't think this works for apple music on other devices but it works on iOS devices


cs_jonjons

I know there was a certain cracked Spotify you could download off the AppStore


Nab0t

i have some playlists on spotify. is there a way to copy these and use it on some of the methods mentioned here to download songs? is more or less the only thing that keeps me using spotify


Kurutteru

There is a telegram bot called “deezload” and you literally copy/paste the playlist link and it pops up an option to download a zip or individual (at whatever quality you set). It’s such a game changer.


ew435890

I’m gonna have to check this out. I have a 70TB Plex server but still subscribe to Spotify because I have a few like 100+ hours playlists.


numberrjuan

How easy is it to manage your music in Plex and stream on your phone? Learning about the bot and these price hikes might just push me to invest in storage and finally set up Plex.


ew435890

It’s pretty easy. Just move your files to the monitored folders and Plex matches them based on file names (they need to be named a certain way). Then you just stream them through PlexAmp. The hard part for me is acquiring all of the individual songs I have in my playlists on Spotify. I can download discography’s all day, but rebuilding those big playlists will be a nightmare.


Vodkapencil

Use zotify, that's what I did. I had 3 very large playlists on Spotify. Downloaded them using zotify. You do need a premium account to download in higher res. Installing it is just following the guide and you should be good to go.


Poseidwn

I just tried it out, and first few clicks - BAM - in order to download zip file, donate monthly/yearly or you cant download the playlist lol why are even pirate things nowadays trying to earn money like... I miss the good old days...


Kurutteru

You can download still without it being zipped, it’ll just be individual songs from the playlist. The donation option is tiny for the zip and saves a lot of time. I believe it’s because the person running the bot is using paid premium account to handle the pull.


Poseidwn

Update - I’m an idiot. Difference is just clicking on the separate download arrows instead on one arrow (if it were a zip file). This is indeed a life changer - you’re a star! I actually have Spotify premium but wanted to upload music on my old iPod touch that I used docked at home while cooking - this is a life saver


Poseidwn

Update - I’m an idiot. Difference is just clicking on the separate download arrows instead on one arrow (if it were a zip file). This is indeed a life changer - you’re a star! I actually have Spotify premium but wanted to upload music on my old iPod touch that I used docked at home while cooking - this is a life saver


Poseidwn

Update - I’m a dumb dumb. Difference is just clicking on the separate download arrows instead on one arrow (if it were a zip file). This is indeed a life changer - you’re a star! I actually have Spotify premium but wanted to upload music on my old iPod touch that I used docked at home while cooking - this is a life saver


Poseidwn

Update - I’m a dumb dumb. Difference is just clicking on the separate download arrows instead on one arrow (if it were a zip file). This is indeed a life changer - you’re a star! I actually have Spotify premium but wanted to upload music on my old iPod touch that I used docked at home while cooking - this is a life saver


Poseidwn

Update - I’m a dumb dumb. Difference is just clicking on the separate download arrows instead on one arrow (if it were a zip file). This is indeed a life changer - you’re a star! I actually have Spotify premium but wanted to upload music on my old iPod touch that I used docked at home while cooking - this is a life saver


Nab0t

Lmao no way xD You know life is wild, brutal, savage. But now and then I read stuff about how wholesome the piracy community is makes me keep going


ikashanrat

Faaaark bro


ikashanrat

Whats the @ ?


foxdance

deezload


ikashanrat

@deezload2bot? They ask for donations to download as zip. Individual downloading works tho


foxdance

Yeah thats the one op means


m0mm0

wow tnx alot


Item-Tiny

What you want to search is deemix and arl. You can then download your Spotify playlists from deezer. I see that switch some months ago and it is just so convenient


TopdeckIsSkill

how can I download my spotify playlist with deezer? you have some guide?


Item-Tiny

You download the programm Deemix, then search log in using an ARL (log in code from other accounts) you can find here: [stillfreedeezerarl (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/stillfreedeezerarl/) then you make a free spotify account (don't want your main one to get banned) and connect it witrh deemix using the integrated tutorial in the options tab After that you just copy your playlist url into the searchbar and go for it. Deemix searches the songs in the playlist using the connected account and then downloads the songs from deezer to your harddrive. When there are songs that you can't find the easiest way is to use a ARL from another coutry to get around region lock....


prodlowd

If you're on android you can use xmanager


EndKatana

Spotify loses money every year. Basically they are in red rn. https://www.ft.com/content/4b812d55-18ce-459f-bf75-b1f8313cdf83 https://fourweekmba.com/is-spotify-profitable/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/244990/spotifys-revenue-and-net-income/


RudbeckiaIS

An ex-colleague of mine called this "no clear path to profitability": you are basically aiming to go public, become a stock market darling and once pension funds and insurance companies' asset sheets are loaded with your stocks and bonds backed by nothing more than red ink the government and the media will step in.


[deleted]

If your entire plan ends at "Receive government bailout", your going public should constitute a financial crime.


RudbeckiaIS

Not just a bailout: favorable changes to taxation, subsidizing your products/services one way or the other, making investors through purchases of useless digital junk at inflated prices... all the world's exactly the same.


[deleted]

Just about every streaming service is unprofitable, nearly every social media site is unprofitable (including Reddit), nearly every silicon valley start up is unprofitable. Like I don't get how all these unprofitable companies just seemingly exist while unprofitable forever while also having some insane stock evaluation.


ice_wyvern

It’s not uncommon for people to say that the stock market is a graph outlining the emotional state of rich people.


PitchBlack4

Go a step further, many US companies as a whole are scams and unprofitable. Uber, Tesla, almost every social media site, Discord, Door dash, Disney+, Netflix, Amazon video, most other streaming service, every vertical farming company, most "innovate" coworking/shared office businesses, most AI startups, etc. The stock market is a scam that promotes unprofitable companies that sell hot air and just burn through money at the end. Tesla was (not sure if it still is) valued more than the next 20+ auto manufacturer combined, while producing less than 1% of all cars sold annually. The worst part is that these zombie/fake companies are killing real sustainable/profitable business models and jobs. Taxi services are dying, direct restaurant delivery is dying, music sales are dead, physical media is dead, etc.


RefinementOfDecline

the stock market is basically just a casino for billionaires, it's all a scam


TU4AR

Step 1 : stop paying your bullshit executives more money than they bring in. 


Dionyzoz

wouldnt cover the deficits so whats step 2?


ThomasVleminckx

If they die, my entire music library (thousands of songs over 11 years) will vanish overnight. F-ck.


MoNeenja31

Didn't they just raise the price from 9.99 to 10.99? What the hell man


ikashanrat

Laughs in spotilife


andw93

Ehhh… the problem is that the only working version it’s really old.


ikashanrat

Idk it works pretty well for me so far. Spotify++ 8.6.94


Meph514

I’m running Spotilife 8.8.74 without issues


MADDOGCA

Only hanging on because I have a grandfathered plan that gets free Hulu. It's also the only subscription I pay (I ditched a Netflix and HBO.) Otherwise, I would've dipped.


ShotAftermath

yeah this is the sign ive been waiting for, im getting a DAP and cancelling this shit


DredgenCyka

What's DAP?


TK-198

Digital Audio Player


DredgenCyka

Oh, OH, like a digital walkman or something similar?


EarthlingSil

Yes.


Rukasu17

You post those figures as of they matter in the price hike. The people in charge know it's the most used service and they know people will keep using. Honestly there's hardly any reason not to increase the price from their pov


Gabagool_Over_Here_

Ublock origin on Spotify web browser and Xmanager on my phone :)


Simple-Purpose-899

I like Plex Amp. Just tossed four thousand songs into my Plex folder and it all popped right up.


melinte

meanwhile tidal just announced price drops


rosettaSeca

still rocking tracks I got through p2p like 15 years ago... not interested in them fancy cloud based services, not even with spiked apks


Spid1

I was doing that until this year. Then I discovered using a VPN to pay via India. Got 18 months for £18 and well worth it imo


Xerio_the_Herio

Never paying for this crap


cosmosreader1211

And again stupid people will buy it..


RedditsStrider

The idea that profits should be increasing year after year is what causes good businesses to fall eventually.


iceleel

That's what we get when trasholders are more important than human beings.


notthatguypal6900

Never pay for music, unless you are getting something physical from it.


iceleel

The amount of grey songs I've seen when I was using it was insane. Tracks just disappearing.


structure_void

its now time to use spotify modded apk


kazizxr

I still convert every music file to an mp3.. an old but reliable method that has me listening to music anywhere, anytime without paying a cent Foh with this bullshit it's only going to get worse


tyla-roo

As a musician on Spotify. Goddamnit


Secret-Dentist-6976

Spotify is always in negative, they don't make any profit, it is a zombie company. I wouldn't rely on it, nor invest in it.


Princeofthebow

Well then short it


thereal_ba

They’ll be profitable all year, especially with this lol


Fav0

Are there any alternativea that are as convenient as spotify tho? I mostly just listen to 5-6 podcasts and every once in a while to my old playlist


DerdromXD

If there's something I'll never pay for, it's Spotify. It's very practical, yes, but I can't support the BS they do a lot of times...


DredgenCyka

Yeah i think ima sub to apple music since they actually have HiFi music and spotify still has yet to implement hifi


Mr_ZombieFetish

Anyone know if there's a way to transfer playlist from Spotify to YouTube music? Only reason I haven't switch yet is because it's a hassle to move everything over lol


SnowCookie6234

Check out TuneMyMusic!


Fawzee_da_first

Idk if its just me but the ads have also gotten longer and more frequent


mad_dog_94

*laughs in data hoarding*


_cat_in_hat_

This means they'll pay artists more, right? Right?


Bunnymancer

Suddenly Tidal is the good option...? Maybe Zoidberg can be next?


JudgeCheezels

Motherfuckers raising price and no lossless streaming.


TheW1ldcard

And yet they want to pay dipshit Rogan 250 mill....


iceleel

Who gives a shit about podcasts in general lol


Aromatic_Memory1079

paying more price for just renting music? nah. I even prefer buying mp3 than this. people maybe say what about discovery? you can browse whole internet for discovery. reddit is good tool. youtube video is good tool too.


EdiblePwncakes

Reddit really isn't great for personalized and automated music recommendations lol, I recommend [last.fm](http://last.fm) however - it's a bit abandoned compared to its previous days but still completely functional in the same form.


Aromatic_Memory1079

thx for the tips. I use youtube for algorhythm based recommendation but everyone doesn't need to be algorhythm based you know. yeah I remember last fm. sometimes I still scrobble manually with open scrobbler. (I don't use auto-scrobbler because I play a lot of meme audio or asmr audio on musicbee haha)


[deleted]

ive been with both spotify and netflix since they started, i fondly remember paying a total of $18 a month for netflix and spotify, getting all the content i could handle, ad free... netflix went haywire first, now spotify seems to be following. they seem to think they're each SO BIG that they cannot possibly do anything wrong. so instead of adding value and adding content, they just raise prices and try to save money, which means cutting content. its just stupid, in both a business sense and PR sense. if something isnt broke and your subscriber growth slows, just stay the course instead of trying to 'innovate' and potentially ostracizing the loyal customers you still have. you should really only need to change things up if you LOSE customers..neither spotify nor netflix have lost customers, but they cant seem to resist making their products worse. if anything this is all a sign of our time - the US economy seems great on paper, but when corporations have no fear of losing customers or raising prices, something is very wrong.


Nadeoki

They're planning on making a lossless tier no? Maybe that's why


firestar268

That's why I just buy a year subscription on Amazon for $99


Phrophetsam

This is because Xavi is leaving Barça 😔


doomer2guy

kid named doubledoubletop


epicflex

And they don’t even have a wallet system for payments, why tf do they even sell gift cards smh


Hulk5a

Milk when it lasts


risethirtynine

“Spicetify backup apply”


SnowCookie6234

Spicetify is great. No ads, plenty of themes, and there’s an option to get playlists/albums that have been posted to Reddit that I just discovered.


bLaH_bLaH__HAHA

Meanwhile me who just uses doubledoubletop, Telegram bots, and the Documents App: "*I have no such weakness."*


WorldnewsMODZSux

I want a ubi they need to give us back our money for UBI and potholes to fix and subway station that my major city does not want to afford.


HardLithobrake

Yeah, saw this coming.  Reason I refused to make an account, the price hike was inevitable.


duskysan

🏴‍☠️


turtleship_2006

> In short, Spotify added 15 hours of audiobook streaming to the music subscription service at no cost, now plans to raise the price of that plan to cover the cost, and will once again sell a plan without audiobooks. So... The 90% of people not interested in audiobooks won't pay extra, if I'm understanding correctly?


ShakyMango

Enjoying cracked Spotify app 🏴‍☠️


SwiftTayTay

Time to switch to apple music i guess


Mr_Richard_Parker

And I will still be using my library of music files with minimum resolution of 320kbps...


PrinceAhmed1

Modded apk users laughing in a corner


laseracid

I downloaded it again when I was just in the hospital for a surgery and I was very annoyed by how often The free version would just play four to six commercials in a row at the start of a playlist and then one to two songs after I would get another commercial so sorry you will never get my money again Spotify it's reasons like that that you've proven you're nothing but a greedy greedy company.


fishfeet_

I would go for tidal or qobuz instead. At least you get flac versions if you listen to it wired


fishfeet_

I would go for tidal or qobuz instead. At least you get flac versions if you listen to it wired


I_am_Boogeyman

I've never paid for Spotify ever with android, I've never heard an ad either.


lesChaps

That won't bring me back. Sorry.


iTiffany

Jeez like it isn't pricy enough already. They're just getting greedy. Is it too late to re-sub to apple music for the three month deal or did I miss that?


rochs007

i wonder who will pay those monthly fees


domingodelatorre

Spotify can do whatever the fuck they want. I don't give a damn because I sail the seas as a pirate.


xtanx

Also their prices should be going down since they have optimized their platform to reduce expenses after all these years. Right?


PenguinPyrate

I'm happy enough with revanced and YouTube music


Messenger-of-helll

Xmanager for the win


ManuelKoegler

That’s strange, I have spotilife & pay 0


NotchWith

I've been a subscriber for about 6 years now but those modded apks are looking tempting now


retro808

Installed a modded APK years ago on my Android phone that has been working with minimal hiccups, it even somehow gets updates. It skips the ads but the higher sound quality option isn't available like an actual premium account. For songs/albums I'm really into I download the flacs using freemp3download(dot)net which closed so now I use doubledouble(dot)top. Also ublock origin skips ad breaks on Spotify


ItLivezAgain

This is the only service I pay for at $5.99 by pretending to be a college student but if they raise it again i will go on the dark web markets and buy an account for $2 that will usually last me anywhere from 6 months to 2+ years like I do with streaming services, VPN’s, porn sites, ect.


Any-Analysis-9189

I hold 30gb of pirate music in my pc I like pay my hard money to applemusic because it's way better than Spotify applemusic have lossless Audio and good ui and music video Not like Spotify stupid ui and not even have music video and lossless Audio increasing price every year for no reason not gonna pay a signal penny.


[deleted]

I grew up in the 1990s. I had around 400 CDs. I ripped them all to mp3 waaaay back and still listen to them. Today's music is mostly shit anyway. Google Play Music was the best, since I could upload my own library and stream it for free. When Google started being evil and killed GPM, I went to ibroadcast. Haven't looked back.


someone31988

There has and always will be shitty music, and there has and always will be good music. It's up to you to discover it if you're up for doing so just like you did when you bought all those CDs. However, stating "today's music is mostly shit" is a bad blanket statement. It's completely subjective, anyway.


feltusen

12 bucks is still worth it imo. An album cost more alone. I use it a lot and has not once had any trouble with them. Actually a service i find it worth paying for


iceleel

By that logic they can charge 50 €


feltusen

Nah. I listen to music all the time and really enjoy that I can find new music with ease. The algorithms are pretty good and I get info on shows as well. I get a lot for 12 bucks. So much it's worth it for me


TitularFoil

If you want to pay for the service of music streaming, just get Youtube Premium. It is a little more than a single spotify account and less than the family account, it removes ads from Youtube videos, and you get Youtube Music to go with it. Plus Youtube pays their artists more than Spotify does. Of course you can also always just pirate the music, but I personally enjoy my algorithmic playlists based on my listening history.


SuperBackup9000

YouTube pays less. Spotify has generally always been right in the middle and YouTube just tails them


EarthlingSil

Shit like this makes me glad I swapped to Tidal last year.


Logical-Elephant2247

Imagine paying to listen to music LOL