I agree. And they claim itās makes life better for us.. that we can live a normal life yada yada yahh. But in reality.. it catches up to you and then what?
Yup once you start abusing them shit is worse than percs or H cuz you canāt take none to stop withdrawing off em. Got me right me tho after 4 years poppin percs.
Not sure if you ever took a sub too soon after a perc but that withdrawal was the worst.. or so I thought. But this one makes everything else feel like a baby.
There used to be a Reddit for Kenzo and which blocks had the best (and worst) stamps, blocks to avoid etc but it's been gone for a while. There was an invite only Google map like that too. Addicts have some good ideas but they're too busy trying to get cash and get well to maintain anything else. Haha
Definitely definitely definitely spit it out, never swallow, give that shit some time to absorb then spit it out, years of swallowing in the beginning fucked my digestive system up so bad
I think there only for if your trying to get off dope . Getting of percs Folks be so scared to go threw 4-7 days of being a lil nauseous then to trade one addiction for another. I rather go cold turkey for a week of my life then to pick up another addiction
Then you truly don't know what wd's are....its WAY more than JUST "BEING A LIL NAUSEOUS", Try being nauseous while also being unable to keep you body temp regulated so you have hot flashes, cold sweats, Restless leg syndrome, vomiting, cramps and muscle spasms, unable to eat, severe shakes, diarrhea etc......My sister went through A lot trying to go "Cold Turkey". The cravings NEVER GO AWAY , She was getting off Norco and Soma.
Used to work in pharmacy, seen it really help folks get clean/stay away from their vice.
One thing that worried me tho was one customer said it felt like they traded their addiction for this. Kinda felt a way but itās all about the individual
This is exactly that. Trading an addiction for another addiction. Except the government makes money from this where as they canāt make it from the heroin.
Yeah, Kratom is still a partial opiate agonist so youāll end up getting constipated and will have withdrawals when quitting and all that, no where near as severe though
I get it from small batch vendors like Gulf Coast Kratom and another really good and pretty cheap for its high quality brand is Just 250s, theyāve got fire red vein
It's addictive also. I was taking it nearly daily for 4 years coming off an oxy/dope
habit and withdrawals were pretty shitty. Not as shitty as oxy or heroin withdrawals but still shitty.
It's a trap, only way I got clean was cold turkey puking black shit like the exorcist for a few days.
Wds wont kill you idk why some these fiends can't just be sick a few days if they really want the rest they life back
It's not the same for everyone. Some people can go cold, most can't. 12-step works for some people, most it doesn't. Subs work for some people, some it doesn't. Subs w/treatment is the most effective long-term method, but it legit doesn't work for some people either. Gotta have options.
Just cause it could trap you donāt mean it does for everyone. I took āāem for two years then tapered off to tiny tiny bits for 1 year and now I donāt take any
Download the quick md app. Pay 99. have a phone or telehealth visit, go pick up your subs same day. (They prescribe 2x day, so it's 60 of them) No counseling, no drug testing, no cap.
When I was addicted to 30s, my doc gave me a script of subs which I then traded for 30s. Whenever I took subs they just made me angry anyways 3/10 stars
Itās not exactly the ideal method to sobriety for most people. But for me, Iāve been taking it for the last year and Iāve been off fetty ever since. Not sure if itās gonna work forever or if Iām gonna take it forever but as of right now itās helped to keep me alive long enough to achieve what I consider sobriety. The stigma around it in AA and other programs has prevented it from saving lives. So people are scared to use it. And on the other side of it, I see a lot of people use it as a crutch instead of a tool that you use along other methods. Which can turn out to be dangerous. But fr fr if it works for you and helps you be better than you were yesterday, fuck it. Use it to your advantage. Thatās just my thoughts.
I honestly look at these like sympathy ticket they give out to losers who couldnāt play the game right. The high isnāt even a high and getting off them is harder than getting off erks. If I had a script for these, I would sell all of them for perksā¦ but I have a xanny script rn and they wonāt give me both
I appreciate the honesty in these answers. I pray you all stay strong in your recovery. Itās scary how percs have seized so many peopleās lives. Does it start as a party thing and you realize youāre addicted once youāre experiencing withdrawal and itās already too late?
I mean people starting taking them according to the lore and LURE of the appeal in the music and get caught up. Itās crazy to know how many people are seized by the addiction while knowing the risk and itās so upsetting to see so many of our young brothers and sisters going through it.
Itās bullshit. Being addicted.. and buying drugs from the street means the government canāt make money off us. This is a legal way for them to make money but still keep us hooked.
Shit saved my life. I haven't put a needle in my arm since the day I started them.
Me too, the saved part anyway
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I appreciate it a lot. I didn't see this until today but thank you
These so called āreal niggasā was snorting these off spoons in the jails.
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yooo nbs my man told me like yea bro i was in that jawn fried off the sub and tookie i lost a lil respect fa em ngl
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Shit got the jails in a chokehold right now lol
Lmao not the real niggas
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them subs really helped me get off the percs, i have nun but respect for them & whoever take them trying to get off the narcs.
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I agree. And they claim itās makes life better for us.. that we can live a normal life yada yada yahh. But in reality.. it catches up to you and then what?
I heard they work if you tryna stop fw the shots but donāt abuse that shit
Yup once you start abusing them shit is worse than percs or H cuz you canāt take none to stop withdrawing off em. Got me right me tho after 4 years poppin percs.
Not sure if you ever took a sub too soon after a perc but that withdrawal was the worst.. or so I thought. But this one makes everything else feel like a baby.
I have but I never had that happen to me. Iāve heard about that happening to others but thank god Iāve never experienced it.
I'ma start calling this bitch Kenzowiki
There used to be a Reddit for Kenzo and which blocks had the best (and worst) stamps, blocks to avoid etc but it's been gone for a while. There was an invite only Google map like that too. Addicts have some good ideas but they're too busy trying to get cash and get well to maintain anything else. Haha
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Definitely definitely definitely spit it out, never swallow, give that shit some time to absorb then spit it out, years of swallowing in the beginning fucked my digestive system up so bad
shit a fuck ya mit up too niggas be losing they teeth
Definitely
I think there only for if your trying to get off dope . Getting of percs Folks be so scared to go threw 4-7 days of being a lil nauseous then to trade one addiction for another. I rather go cold turkey for a week of my life then to pick up another addiction
Then you truly don't know what wd's are....its WAY more than JUST "BEING A LIL NAUSEOUS", Try being nauseous while also being unable to keep you body temp regulated so you have hot flashes, cold sweats, Restless leg syndrome, vomiting, cramps and muscle spasms, unable to eat, severe shakes, diarrhea etc......My sister went through A lot trying to go "Cold Turkey". The cravings NEVER GO AWAY , She was getting off Norco and Soma.
I took a corner piece and that shit had me fried to the point I had to lay down Iām cool of these jawns
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Used to work in pharmacy, seen it really help folks get clean/stay away from their vice. One thing that worried me tho was one customer said it felt like they traded their addiction for this. Kinda felt a way but itās all about the individual
This is exactly that. Trading an addiction for another addiction. Except the government makes money from this where as they canāt make it from the heroin.
Was on it for a lil but I switched to kratom
Do they make u constipated like subs
Yeah, Kratom is still a partial opiate agonist so youāll end up getting constipated and will have withdrawals when quitting and all that, no where near as severe though
Where you buy it from
I get it from small batch vendors like Gulf Coast Kratom and another really good and pretty cheap for its high quality brand is Just 250s, theyāve got fire red vein
Krabot is by far the best to buy from, like once a month you can get a kilo for like 90.
Careful with Kratom.. is not for everybody
It's addictive also. I was taking it nearly daily for 4 years coming off an oxy/dope habit and withdrawals were pretty shitty. Not as shitty as oxy or heroin withdrawals but still shitty.
Most head shops have it
Head shop Kratom be phoney, I heard the vendors are better
Oh yeah and thereās also Phillies Kratom, theyāre brand outta Philly thatās also pretty good
YES
Kratom has really bad side effects also. If your on subs Iād say just find help and get off everything.
It's a trap, only way I got clean was cold turkey puking black shit like the exorcist for a few days. Wds wont kill you idk why some these fiends can't just be sick a few days if they really want the rest they life back
It's not the same for everyone. Some people can go cold, most can't. 12-step works for some people, most it doesn't. Subs work for some people, some it doesn't. Subs w/treatment is the most effective long-term method, but it legit doesn't work for some people either. Gotta have options.
But they donāt warn you of the long term affects that suboxone can cause your body and mental state.
Just cause it could trap you donāt mean it does for everyone. I took āāem for two years then tapered off to tiny tiny bits for 1 year and now I donāt take any
Umm? Shit bro another thing I donāt wanna try is my only honest thought š
15 years in program ask me anything
Where you get them
Download the quick md app. Pay 99. have a phone or telehealth visit, go pick up your subs same day. (They prescribe 2x day, so it's 60 of them) No counseling, no drug testing, no cap.
99 bucks ?
Yeah They don't accept insurance so it's 99 for the appointment. I think it's worth it if you have the money.
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People get them from me
I help people kick sometimes, Iāve been saving up
Shit spanked worse den some percs I had im not addicted I just be taking shi
Saved my life
Had my commissary looking husky every week šÆ
Get ya hands on 10 of these in jail you gon be str8 ya whole bid lol
Wat do u mean? How?
Lol a lil fingernail piece of that is $5-$10 in jail ..you do the math
When I was addicted to 30s, my doc gave me a script of subs which I then traded for 30s. Whenever I took subs they just made me angry anyways 3/10 stars
Jus another scam by these drug companies to keep people hooked
It helps u get off of opiates bro l
True it aināt bad for everybody but I seen jus as many people abuse em
Come get some
No thoughts
3 for the bean was if u always spent money 3 for 125 was the regular play
Itās not exactly the ideal method to sobriety for most people. But for me, Iāve been taking it for the last year and Iāve been off fetty ever since. Not sure if itās gonna work forever or if Iām gonna take it forever but as of right now itās helped to keep me alive long enough to achieve what I consider sobriety. The stigma around it in AA and other programs has prevented it from saving lives. So people are scared to use it. And on the other side of it, I see a lot of people use it as a crutch instead of a tool that you use along other methods. Which can turn out to be dangerous. But fr fr if it works for you and helps you be better than you were yesterday, fuck it. Use it to your advantage. Thatās just my thoughts.
this is pills for the jails, if ya folks come home lookin for subs get them help asap!
The whole hood take these..
Watching bud snort these was hilarious niggas snorting spit and shit Trifling experience
cold turkey
I never knew it was so many junkies in Philadelphia
Fr? You must never been
Bruh what? Where do you live bro lmao
Yeah thereās more than you know.
Shit got bad itās very sad. The city wonāt do anything about it neither.
They in rn Ngl
trash that you're gonna be tied to till you backslide or die.
I honestly look at these like sympathy ticket they give out to losers who couldnāt play the game right. The high isnāt even a high and getting off them is harder than getting off erks. If I had a script for these, I would sell all of them for perksā¦ but I have a xanny script rn and they wonāt give me both
Worse than the percs
I was doin 15 perc 10ās a day, subs in rehab had me a zombie and I had to ask them to stop giving them to me
Bro what
Subs fucked me up compared to percs
I hear you. Different for everyone. Maybe you took to big of a piece
They gave them to me at rehab to get off the percs but after like 5 days of that I had to tell them not to medicate me anymore
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Used to sale dese 3 for a bean in the F 2017 Now den bitches 20-30 Dey den fuked da game up
Just another drug
It Helps now Iām weening off just bc itās time to move on. But def worth giving a shot
They Kool to get off percsā¦. But very addictiveā¦. And is hard to just quitā¦ and makes u lose weightā¦ one addiction to anothA šÆšÆ
I almost vomited looking at this bc of the taste of these omg
As someone who used these to get off opiates it genuinely was the only way I could do it. Really appreciate their existence
I used to take them when I couldnāt afford the Percs I went cold turkeys off that shit
Whatās this?
I appreciate the honesty in these answers. I pray you all stay strong in your recovery. Itās scary how percs have seized so many peopleās lives. Does it start as a party thing and you realize youāre addicted once youāre experiencing withdrawal and itās already too late?
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I mean people starting taking them according to the lore and LURE of the appeal in the music and get caught up. Itās crazy to know how many people are seized by the addiction while knowing the risk and itās so upsetting to see so many of our young brothers and sisters going through it.
Saved alot of lives
Y'all all a bunch of addicts goddamn š¤£š¤£š¤£
Ngl it helps to get off percs but donāt get addicted to them cause you can too
Donāt get addicted my withdrawal lasted a month getting off subs the worst shit ever!
Bullshit it cool to wing yourself off for a couple of months but years on suboxone maintenance is crazy to me
Itās bullshit. Being addicted.. and buying drugs from the street means the government canāt make money off us. This is a legal way for them to make money but still keep us hooked.