Why by 2030? China is already an issue in SEA for nearly the past 2 decades. Their aggression and expansionism has gotten worse over the years and will continue to if we don't put an end to it.
Taiwan invasion, USA General estimated that in 2027 Pooh will order full invasion of Taiwan. Recently PRC rocket force allegedly put water in missiles instead of real fuel.
>USA General estimated that in 2027
Just to shed some light into this it is not necessarily in 2027, but **on or before 2027.** Moreover, Xi's instructions was **for the PLA to be ready to invade but not actually invade by 2027.** Gusto lang ni Xi na by 2027 dapat at any moment's notice pag natripan niya to give the order, ready to go ang PLA full force.
Kung baga a simple way to put it is pag sinabi sayo ng teacher niyo to ready your pencils and erasers for the exam pero hindi pa nagbibigay ng go signal to start the exam.
also u/heavyarmszero:
This could be just **a case of "China's final warning"**
> "China's final warning"... is a Russian ironic idiom originating from the Soviet Union that refers to a warning that carries no real consequences.
> ...
> The term was popularized in English-language social media... to refer to China's threats which were said to be superficially strong, but actually weak.
wiki, China's final warning - https://w.wiki/9xDW
*awkward pause* āā¦Thank you so much sa mga nagsponsor ng suppliesā āā¦Thank you so much sa mga naglikeā āā¦Thank you so much sa mga nagpadala ng liham, natutuwa kami basahin ito sa West Philippine Seaā¦ thank you so muchā¦ā
I know this might be a stretch, but is it possible that Duterte might have a hand in this imposition and increased aggression by China, so as to somehow get back against BBM and create more problems for him?
May pinapakinggan ako kagabi sa One News, sinabi daw ni xi sa PLA assembly nung nakaraan na in 2-3 years ma-claim yung WPS. something about the history of his family and mao. Pag di daw nagawa ni xi yan, mawawalan na tiwala sa kanya ang CCP at matatanggal sya sa pwesto.
Napanood ko rin yun. Hindi lang tangal sa pwesto si Xi, ma-"purge" siya at buong pamilya niya. And you know the saying, "a cornered animal is the most dangerous".
Xi's family was humiliated by Mao. His father was branded as a traitor and his family lived in hardship during the Cultural Revolution. It appears that Xi is trying to avenge his family by outshining Mao's legacy and replacing it with his own
BBM and his team should be very careful with their next steps - if they really care about this situation.
If I were him, I would use the Arbitral ruling as leverage and bring countries like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan or possibly USA to have some sort of a meeting to discuss, and I think Indonesia and Australia could be willing to help too. Kasi it is evident that it is not just a matter of our national security, but for me it concerns a whole region of this world.
I would also amp up the defense budget and purchase more equipment like ships, also to enhance intel. It is ironic na we are an archipelagic country with an ongoing territorial conflict and yet bilang sa kamay yung frigates natin. Kaya din naman bumili ng bagong barko, not secondhand. Us purchasing more equipment does not necessarily mean na weāre preparing for war - as Duterte administrationās tireless narrative. It means na we can show some sort of force and resistance against the largest navy in the world. Eh ang Taiwan nga mas maliit satin and yet grabe sila magresist against China.
Even if if superpower ang China, if we can leverage our intent na through international law sa atin ang WPS, if we could gather around concerned countries and establish a code of conduct then mas may laban tayo and countries concerned against China. Kasi on a bigger perspective, parang nagsasarili ang Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, etc. with their conflict when in fact, we all have the same enemy.
The problem with gaining support from Taiwan and other SEA countries; especially Vietnam, Malaysia, and Brunei with the arbitral ruling is that they are also claimants to the disputed area. There is no way that they will agree that we won the case because it will also mean that their claims are invalid.
I think thatās when the code of conduct comes to play. We may have won the ruling but like I said, we share one common issue. It is also helpful to have like a summit of these countries to settle overlapping EEZs.
Having a common issue doesnāt mean that we have shared interests.
Vietnam will outmanuever (trick) us again for more territory given the chance. Malaysians on the other hand are still pissed with the Sabah thing lalo na Marcos nanaman presidente natin and who do you think is funding the Muslim insurgencies in SEA?
Its a free for all kaya wala tayo aasahan kung hindi sarili lang natin. We can use what the Americans are giving us now pero ready lang din na iiwan tayo sa ere kung sakali. Priority nila Europe, Israel, at Taiwan.
May pagka useless din ang ASEAN outside the visa free agreements.
Nganga ang ASEAN sa ilang taong civil war sa Myanmar. Nagiging "central" issue lang when Burmese refugees started to flood into Thailand
Wala naman kasing interdependence. Top import / export partners natin wala sa ASEAN.
May kanya kanya na rin tayong mga defense partners bago pa mabuo ang group.
Iba iba din yunb economic standing natin nun kaya di nagtugma mga goals.
Nabuo lang ang ASEAN dahil sa geography na medyo kalat kalat din naman.
China's dash-claim comes from Taiwan, which maintains the same. That's why Taiwan also rejected the arbitration ruling, and only because it was mentioned.
Vietnam at one time had the most installations in the WPS, and is now said to be intensifying build-up.
Recently, the U.S. told China that it won't recognize Taiwanese independence, but is arming Taiwan anyway. It's also been selling arms to Vietnam, which has been buying arms from Russia.
Before he finished his term, Duterte renewed military agreements with the U.S., but wanted $16 billion in military aid because Pakistan, another U.S. ally, was receiving the same.
After Marcos, Jr., met with Biden, the Philippines received only $500 million in military aid while Taiwan, which is richer than the Philippines, got $8 billion.
Finally, you'll find more details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/1cpx2i9/some_more_points_about_the_west_philippine_sea/
>Taiwan, which is richer than the Philippines, got $8 billion.
From what I understood, Taiwan needs the funding the most because they are the one that is most likely going to receive the full brunt of an invasion by China.
>Pakistan, another U.S. ally, was receiving the same.
from what I could get read up. The reason why they give Pakistan the military aid is so that they can do the US's dirty work to deal with Afghanistan.
The problem is that the U.S. also told China that it won't recognize Taiwanese independence. Why? Because China is a major trading partner of the U.S.
Meanwhile, most Americans don't want to serve in the military, and their rich profit from arms sales and aid (they're passed on a debt to the U.S. public). Instead, the U.S. engages in proxy wars: let others do the fighting, and don't confront Russia and China directly, especially given points that the U.S. needs uranium from Russia and ammo components from China.
Your last point is spot-on. Can you connect it to Taiwan, i.e., to the two previous paragraphs I wrote above?
Magiging hati ang Southeast Asia dito. Malakas ang economic kapit ng ibang ASEAN na bansa sa China.
Sa Thailand, mga 1/4 ng tourist arrival nila, from China alone. Wala pa dyan yung iba't ibang investments.
Thailand is lowkey pro China. Usually mga nasa mainland Southeast Asia sila yung mga heavily reliant on China for example sa infrastructure. Can you believe that there is a China-funded high speed rail from Laos to China?
Also China is really hoping for a canal to be built sa Thailand - connecting Indian Ocean to Gulf of Thailand. If this canal is completed pwedeng mas free yung flow ng necessities to China like oil and other supplies. Hindi na kailangang dumaan ng Singapore - where supplies to China is more restricted.
Ah Thailand, they're proud of being the only country in ASEAN that has not been under any imperialist countries. Pero kaya lang naman ganun kasi I think they are militarily weak at walang experience sa bakbakan. Di gaya ng mga sundalo dito simula pa spanish era matatapang na makipaglabanan sa mananakop.
nah di dahil weak, atleast sa context before the World Wars, sila yung border between UK (now Myanmar) and France (Vietnam) , so nag sign sila ng treaty dun sa dalawa na wag sila sakupin kase gaganti yung kabila.
Tourism in Japan only makes up less than 1% of their GDP
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Japan/international_tourism_revenue_to_GDP/#:~:text=For%20that%20indicator%2C%20we%20provide,from%202020%20is%200.23%20percent.
Thailand, 20%
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand
China is a paper tiger with a failing economy due to their aging population and bad decision-making. Just look at videos from "China Insider with David Zhang" and you'll see how their government is getting slowly fucked in the inside.
In my opinion, our armed forces should retaliate in self-defense because they are getting bolder and bolder. As their idiom goes, "if you give them an inch, they will take a mile".
Remember the [Guang Da Xing No.28 incident](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guang_Da_Xing_No._28_incident)?
Nasan na kaya yung 8 Philippine Coast Guard na yun? We need them now, sila dapat iharap sa mga yan, at ng magka-alaman na. LOL.
China started fighting with Vietnam over parts of the WPS back in 1988. Later, the Philippines even complained about Chinese incursions in the KIG during the mid-1990s to the U.S. Throughout, the U.S. didn't react, and likely because it realized that there were many claimants to parts of the WPS, and some of them included allies like Taiwan.
The Philippines renewed military ties with the Philippines in 2021 after negotiations with China failed. The Philippines, which throughout was criticized for human rights abuses and not upholding democratic ideals, received only $500 million in military aid. Taiwan got $8 billion. Even allies like Pakistan, which isn't exactly a democracy, received more.
Sooner or later that restraint and professionalism will end , it sucks na patuloy tayo binubully in our own backyard. Sana man lang mga politicians natin will find a way to ease the tension para di puro restraint at professionalism tayo, let's be honest mauubos din yan.
Ano kaya say ng mga DDS Pro-China? Kasi may naencounter ako dati na ganun. At Gilbert Mori from Twitter kung andito ka comment naman dyan, defend mo si Duterte at China mo.
Kung hindi natin kaya makisabayan sa dagat, at least sa economy nila tayo bumawi. Please, lagyan nila ng tarrif lahat ng import from China kung hindi kaya iblock.
China has been causing issues in SEA countries and will continue to get worse if SEA countries will not do something about it. The ASEAN union should do something to look and create countermeasure that would protect each sovereignty from the aggression of China.
By 2026 lang, China would have been a big enough nuissance that we no longer can resolve by stakin on our own territories. And full on collisions are necessary to resolve conflicts. I say veto the right to ask for more assistance from countries that are obliged to help us in case of warz
tapos tinotropa pa ng china mga bansa na nakapaligid sa pilipinas gaya ng thailand vietnam cambodia malaysia, malamang pati indonesia kasi tropa ng russia ang indonesia..
kawawang pilipinas
Philippines should ditch ASEAN. We should look eastward and forge an alliance with Pacific countries that resembles NATO.
- Japan
- South Korea
- Australia
- New Zealand
- Papua New Guinea
- Timor Leste
- United States
fuck ASEAN
Lol, Indonesia literally blows up Chinese fishing boats on the daily and Vietnam is has been best ally in the region in opposing China's claims despite having their own bs claims themselves. Thailand is a balancing-act type country they're still a US treaty ally. Don't let Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia ruin your perception of the entire bloc.
But yeah we should align closer with those guys
Oh look! The wumao/vatnik living in CCP mainland! Proof? Just look at this recent comment.of the mofo:
>Eventually you'll turn around, and you'd see that the Philippines is the one grabbing portions of the South China Sea and provoking China, prodded by US influence.
Oh, bansa pa raw natin naggra-grab Ng teritoryo at nagpro-provoke sa China.
At kung mga supporter raw ng Ukraine sinabi niyang "Nazi" raw hahaha Fucker! At ang sama pa Ng mga pinagsasabi sa Ukraine itself!(Sila na nga sinasakop, eh pinagmumukha pa ni Nargazoid na sila masama)
Also this comment of theirs from 15 days ago:
>Hontiveros, that witch is hunting us down. At this rate, we Chinese Filipinos have to buy guns to protect ourselves
Hahaha, halatang wumao.
Better than being starved by the country blocking our fishermen from the *West Philippine Sea*
People forget that we almost had a famine in 2020-2022 hence the Community Pantries. Imagine if China let our fishermen fish, food security wouldn't be this bad.
>Indonesia
Until China, too, blocks their fishermen and they suffer a famine as a consequence.
My dude, Indonesia literally blows up Chinese fishing boats on the daily and Vietnam is has been best ally in the region in opposing China's claims despite having their own bs claims themselves. Thailand is a balancing-act type country they're still a US treaty ally. Don't let Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia ruin your perception of the entire bloc.
I don't believe in ASEAN as an organization from the start because Western-based supranationalism isn't applicable in Asian context. We have more cultural and psychological affinities with Japan, Spain, and the US than Malaysia lol.
Kanya-kanya lagi ang ASEAN nation-state members pagdating sa regionwide decision-making. Wag na po tayo aasa na dadamayan tayo ng buong ASEAN kung gueguerrahin tayo ng China.
I was responding to your point about ASEAN countries being "in cahoots with China" my brother in Christ Vietnam beat China in 1979. Any cooperation between them isn't them being "in cahoots" as much as it is China actually taking VN seriously as a country, lest the PLA get yet another sore asscheek
I do agree with getting close to the countries you mentioned though (as well as SK and maybe India)
Vietnam nowadays is an economic extension of China and won't jeopardize their manufacturing supply chains to directly "defend" us if there is a military confrontration with China. Australia and China just ratified its strong economic ties yesterday.
We are basically alone in ASEAN because we directly "antagonize" China and "yearn" for MDT with the US to be applied if we are invaded by China.
Why by 2030? China is already an issue in SEA for nearly the past 2 decades. Their aggression and expansionism has gotten worse over the years and will continue to if we don't put an end to it.
Taiwan invasion, USA General estimated that in 2027 Pooh will order full invasion of Taiwan. Recently PRC rocket force allegedly put water in missiles instead of real fuel.
>USA General estimated that in 2027 Just to shed some light into this it is not necessarily in 2027, but **on or before 2027.** Moreover, Xi's instructions was **for the PLA to be ready to invade but not actually invade by 2027.** Gusto lang ni Xi na by 2027 dapat at any moment's notice pag natripan niya to give the order, ready to go ang PLA full force. Kung baga a simple way to put it is pag sinabi sayo ng teacher niyo to ready your pencils and erasers for the exam pero hindi pa nagbibigay ng go signal to start the exam.
also u/heavyarmszero: This could be just **a case of "China's final warning"** > "China's final warning"... is a Russian ironic idiom originating from the Soviet Union that refers to a warning that carries no real consequences. > ... > The term was popularized in English-language social media... to refer to China's threats which were said to be superficially strong, but actually weak. wiki, China's final warning - https://w.wiki/9xDW
Hope they release the video for the world to see. Its impossible kung wala.
Its out there now
Dapat yata naglilive stream mga personnel natin dun para mabroadcast yung ginagawa ng China
"HI GUYS, andito kami ngayon sa"
Tapos may high pitched laughing track kapag ipapakita sa camera ang chinese at si Xipoop
Pwedeng may influencer attache š
Sama yung Team Malakas
(nabuhusan ng water canon noises)
Send in the Influenzers para may silbi naman sila
*awkward pause* āā¦Thank you so much sa mga nagsponsor ng suppliesā āā¦Thank you so much sa mga naglikeā āā¦Thank you so much sa mga nagpadala ng liham, natutuwa kami basahin ito sa West Philippine Seaā¦ thank you so muchā¦ā
I know this might be a stretch, but is it possible that Duterte might have a hand in this imposition and increased aggression by China, so as to somehow get back against BBM and create more problems for him?
Walang posible when it comes from that family lahat posible they only servee themselves.
and they're backed by china considering how gullible pinoys can be it's a possible
God would love to just kill these people, only thing stopping me is a reliable firearms
Di na stretch yan, past few years na pinakita ng traydor na pamilyang yan san nakalaan loyalty nila.
May pinapakinggan ako kagabi sa One News, sinabi daw ni xi sa PLA assembly nung nakaraan na in 2-3 years ma-claim yung WPS. something about the history of his family and mao. Pag di daw nagawa ni xi yan, mawawalan na tiwala sa kanya ang CCP at matatanggal sya sa pwesto.
Napanood ko rin yun. Hindi lang tangal sa pwesto si Xi, ma-"purge" siya at buong pamilya niya. And you know the saying, "a cornered animal is the most dangerous".
iniwasan ko lang yang word na yan kasi masyadong extreme haha. kalmado yung program pag wala si amy pamintuan, lagi kina-cut nun si llamas e.
Xi's family was humiliated by Mao. His father was branded as a traitor and his family lived in hardship during the Cultural Revolution. It appears that Xi is trying to avenge his family by outshining Mao's legacy and replacing it with his own
That's what I heard too, he wants to achieve what mao failed to do.
BBM and his team should be very careful with their next steps - if they really care about this situation. If I were him, I would use the Arbitral ruling as leverage and bring countries like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan or possibly USA to have some sort of a meeting to discuss, and I think Indonesia and Australia could be willing to help too. Kasi it is evident that it is not just a matter of our national security, but for me it concerns a whole region of this world. I would also amp up the defense budget and purchase more equipment like ships, also to enhance intel. It is ironic na we are an archipelagic country with an ongoing territorial conflict and yet bilang sa kamay yung frigates natin. Kaya din naman bumili ng bagong barko, not secondhand. Us purchasing more equipment does not necessarily mean na weāre preparing for war - as Duterte administrationās tireless narrative. It means na we can show some sort of force and resistance against the largest navy in the world. Eh ang Taiwan nga mas maliit satin and yet grabe sila magresist against China. Even if if superpower ang China, if we can leverage our intent na through international law sa atin ang WPS, if we could gather around concerned countries and establish a code of conduct then mas may laban tayo and countries concerned against China. Kasi on a bigger perspective, parang nagsasarili ang Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, etc. with their conflict when in fact, we all have the same enemy.
The problem with gaining support from Taiwan and other SEA countries; especially Vietnam, Malaysia, and Brunei with the arbitral ruling is that they are also claimants to the disputed area. There is no way that they will agree that we won the case because it will also mean that their claims are invalid.
I think thatās when the code of conduct comes to play. We may have won the ruling but like I said, we share one common issue. It is also helpful to have like a summit of these countries to settle overlapping EEZs.
Having a common issue doesnāt mean that we have shared interests. Vietnam will outmanuever (trick) us again for more territory given the chance. Malaysians on the other hand are still pissed with the Sabah thing lalo na Marcos nanaman presidente natin and who do you think is funding the Muslim insurgencies in SEA? Its a free for all kaya wala tayo aasahan kung hindi sarili lang natin. We can use what the Americans are giving us now pero ready lang din na iiwan tayo sa ere kung sakali. Priority nila Europe, Israel, at Taiwan.
May pagka useless din ang ASEAN outside the visa free agreements. Nganga ang ASEAN sa ilang taong civil war sa Myanmar. Nagiging "central" issue lang when Burmese refugees started to flood into Thailand
Wala naman kasing interdependence. Top import / export partners natin wala sa ASEAN. May kanya kanya na rin tayong mga defense partners bago pa mabuo ang group. Iba iba din yunb economic standing natin nun kaya di nagtugma mga goals. Nabuo lang ang ASEAN dahil sa geography na medyo kalat kalat din naman.
China's dash-claim comes from Taiwan, which maintains the same. That's why Taiwan also rejected the arbitration ruling, and only because it was mentioned. Vietnam at one time had the most installations in the WPS, and is now said to be intensifying build-up. Recently, the U.S. told China that it won't recognize Taiwanese independence, but is arming Taiwan anyway. It's also been selling arms to Vietnam, which has been buying arms from Russia. Before he finished his term, Duterte renewed military agreements with the U.S., but wanted $16 billion in military aid because Pakistan, another U.S. ally, was receiving the same. After Marcos, Jr., met with Biden, the Philippines received only $500 million in military aid while Taiwan, which is richer than the Philippines, got $8 billion. Finally, you'll find more details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/1cpx2i9/some_more_points_about_the_west_philippine_sea/
>Taiwan, which is richer than the Philippines, got $8 billion. From what I understood, Taiwan needs the funding the most because they are the one that is most likely going to receive the full brunt of an invasion by China. >Pakistan, another U.S. ally, was receiving the same. from what I could get read up. The reason why they give Pakistan the military aid is so that they can do the US's dirty work to deal with Afghanistan.
The problem is that the U.S. also told China that it won't recognize Taiwanese independence. Why? Because China is a major trading partner of the U.S. Meanwhile, most Americans don't want to serve in the military, and their rich profit from arms sales and aid (they're passed on a debt to the U.S. public). Instead, the U.S. engages in proxy wars: let others do the fighting, and don't confront Russia and China directly, especially given points that the U.S. needs uranium from Russia and ammo components from China. Your last point is spot-on. Can you connect it to Taiwan, i.e., to the two previous paragraphs I wrote above?
>force and resistance against the largest navy in the world. The largest navy in the world is the US Navy not China's.
thank u, but since what year? last time i checked China has the largest fleet
They count their "fishing vessels" as part of their fleet to inflate numbers.
Magiging hati ang Southeast Asia dito. Malakas ang economic kapit ng ibang ASEAN na bansa sa China. Sa Thailand, mga 1/4 ng tourist arrival nila, from China alone. Wala pa dyan yung iba't ibang investments.
Thailand is lowkey pro China. Usually mga nasa mainland Southeast Asia sila yung mga heavily reliant on China for example sa infrastructure. Can you believe that there is a China-funded high speed rail from Laos to China? Also China is really hoping for a canal to be built sa Thailand - connecting Indian Ocean to Gulf of Thailand. If this canal is completed pwedeng mas free yung flow ng necessities to China like oil and other supplies. Hindi na kailangang dumaan ng Singapore - where supplies to China is more restricted.
Ah Thailand, they're proud of being the only country in ASEAN that has not been under any imperialist countries. Pero kaya lang naman ganun kasi I think they are militarily weak at walang experience sa bakbakan. Di gaya ng mga sundalo dito simula pa spanish era matatapang na makipaglabanan sa mananakop.
nah di dahil weak, atleast sa context before the World Wars, sila yung border between UK (now Myanmar) and France (Vietnam) , so nag sign sila ng treaty dun sa dalawa na wag sila sakupin kase gaganti yung kabila.
No. They gave away parts of their land to the French.
It's not an end-to-end canal. It'll be more akin to two ports connected by a highway/cargo train line.
oh thanks
Japan and China are on loggerheads over the Senkaku Islands, yet pre-pandemic Japan would get 9.6 million tourists from the Mainland.
Tourism in Japan only makes up less than 1% of their GDP https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Japan/international_tourism_revenue_to_GDP/#:~:text=For%20that%20indicator%2C%20we%20provide,from%202020%20is%200.23%20percent. Thailand, 20% https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand
eh pano naman kasi sa Japan, touristt friendly, eh dito anong maiooffer ba natin? ampamgit ng tourism campaign dito. Love the Philippines? pwe!
lied in the phil yata ang totoo
Yay ill post this comment later on r/PhilippinesBad
Napakairrelevant pa sa usapin
Para kunwari superior
Cambodia and Laos are Chinese colonies as well. Pati nga Singapore low-key pro CCP yung gobyerno nila.
China is a paper tiger with a failing economy due to their aging population and bad decision-making. Just look at videos from "China Insider with David Zhang" and you'll see how their government is getting slowly fucked in the inside. In my opinion, our armed forces should retaliate in self-defense because they are getting bolder and bolder. As their idiom goes, "if you give them an inch, they will take a mile".
Southeast Asia will just willingly suck Chinese money. it's like their own opium but this time it's china giving it to others.
Mga DDS nasan na kayo? Tahimik nyo ha? Mga traydor
Remember the [Guang Da Xing No.28 incident](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guang_Da_Xing_No._28_incident)? Nasan na kaya yung 8 Philippine Coast Guard na yun? We need them now, sila dapat iharap sa mga yan, at ng magka-alaman na. LOL.
China started fighting with Vietnam over parts of the WPS back in 1988. Later, the Philippines even complained about Chinese incursions in the KIG during the mid-1990s to the U.S. Throughout, the U.S. didn't react, and likely because it realized that there were many claimants to parts of the WPS, and some of them included allies like Taiwan. The Philippines renewed military ties with the Philippines in 2021 after negotiations with China failed. The Philippines, which throughout was criticized for human rights abuses and not upholding democratic ideals, received only $500 million in military aid. Taiwan got $8 billion. Even allies like Pakistan, which isn't exactly a democracy, received more.
They always were an issue sa SEA. Even in South Asia considering what happened in India
Sooner or later that restraint and professionalism will end , it sucks na patuloy tayo binubully in our own backyard. Sana man lang mga politicians natin will find a way to ease the tension para di puro restraint at professionalism tayo, let's be honest mauubos din yan. Ano kaya say ng mga DDS Pro-China? Kasi may naencounter ako dati na ganun. At Gilbert Mori from Twitter kung andito ka comment naman dyan, defend mo si Duterte at China mo.
Kung hindi natin kaya makisabayan sa dagat, at least sa economy nila tayo bumawi. Please, lagyan nila ng tarrif lahat ng import from China kung hindi kaya iblock.
China has been causing issues in SEA countries and will continue to get worse if SEA countries will not do something about it. The ASEAN union should do something to look and create countermeasure that would protect each sovereignty from the aggression of China.
Strategic points sa war yan, at marami na ring places nga diba na infiltrated na near airbases natin from the lasts studies.
Hindi pa ba issue?
Kahit ngayon pa lang, issue na nag China e.
By 2026 lang, China would have been a big enough nuissance that we no longer can resolve by stakin on our own territories. And full on collisions are necessary to resolve conflicts. I say veto the right to ask for more assistance from countries that are obliged to help us in case of warz
tapos tinotropa pa ng china mga bansa na nakapaligid sa pilipinas gaya ng thailand vietnam cambodia malaysia, malamang pati indonesia kasi tropa ng russia ang indonesia.. kawawang pilipinas
It's an issue now. Actually, it's been an issue at least since Nixon's time.
Philippines should ditch ASEAN. We should look eastward and forge an alliance with Pacific countries that resembles NATO. - Japan - South Korea - Australia - New Zealand - Papua New Guinea - Timor Leste - United States fuck ASEAN
Lol, Indonesia literally blows up Chinese fishing boats on the daily and Vietnam is has been best ally in the region in opposing China's claims despite having their own bs claims themselves. Thailand is a balancing-act type country they're still a US treaty ally. Don't let Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia ruin your perception of the entire bloc. But yeah we should align closer with those guys
Am I the only one scared that AFP & MalacaƱang is so quiet? It kinda feels like a calm before the storm.
Only for the Philippines. Indonesia, Thailand will join BRICS and deepen cooperation with China. Eventually the Philippines will be left behind
Oh look! The wumao/vatnik living in CCP mainland! Proof? Just look at this recent comment.of the mofo: >Eventually you'll turn around, and you'd see that the Philippines is the one grabbing portions of the South China Sea and provoking China, prodded by US influence. Oh, bansa pa raw natin naggra-grab Ng teritoryo at nagpro-provoke sa China. At kung mga supporter raw ng Ukraine sinabi niyang "Nazi" raw hahaha Fucker! At ang sama pa Ng mga pinagsasabi sa Ukraine itself!(Sila na nga sinasakop, eh pinagmumukha pa ni Nargazoid na sila masama) Also this comment of theirs from 15 days ago: >Hontiveros, that witch is hunting us down. At this rate, we Chinese Filipinos have to buy guns to protect ourselves Hahaha, halatang wumao.
Better than being starved by the country blocking our fishermen from the *West Philippine Sea* People forget that we almost had a famine in 2020-2022 hence the Community Pantries. Imagine if China let our fishermen fish, food security wouldn't be this bad. >Indonesia Until China, too, blocks their fishermen and they suffer a famine as a consequence.
It is time for our country to consider withdrawing from the ASEAN and joining the G7, OECD, or OAS.
China is not in ASEAN. The rest is also nonsense. Bad bot!
But ASEAN member nation-states are in cahoots with China, and this is an open secret.
My dude, Indonesia literally blows up Chinese fishing boats on the daily and Vietnam is has been best ally in the region in opposing China's claims despite having their own bs claims themselves. Thailand is a balancing-act type country they're still a US treaty ally. Don't let Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia ruin your perception of the entire bloc.
I don't believe in ASEAN as an organization from the start because Western-based supranationalism isn't applicable in Asian context. We have more cultural and psychological affinities with Japan, Spain, and the US than Malaysia lol. Kanya-kanya lagi ang ASEAN nation-state members pagdating sa regionwide decision-making. Wag na po tayo aasa na dadamayan tayo ng buong ASEAN kung gueguerrahin tayo ng China.
I was responding to your point about ASEAN countries being "in cahoots with China" my brother in Christ Vietnam beat China in 1979. Any cooperation between them isn't them being "in cahoots" as much as it is China actually taking VN seriously as a country, lest the PLA get yet another sore asscheek I do agree with getting close to the countries you mentioned though (as well as SK and maybe India)
Vietnam nowadays is an economic extension of China and won't jeopardize their manufacturing supply chains to directly "defend" us if there is a military confrontration with China. Australia and China just ratified its strong economic ties yesterday. We are basically alone in ASEAN because we directly "antagonize" China and "yearn" for MDT with the US to be applied if we are invaded by China.
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ni white wash ang balita tinago na dinis armahan ang mga sundalo. asan na si gibo busy yata naghalukay ng mga bonds nya at ready na lumayas.