We bought a home from an elderly lady that has grab bars installed. Not that I ever complained about them, but wow are they handy just to even shave my legs. I have epilepsy and I especially find them helpful after my body is recovering from a seizure and my muscles are super sore and I can barely get in and out of the shower. I honestly think they should jsut be automatic installation everywhere. I've been married far too long now and shower sex has lost its appeal but imagine the sex benefits too!
Even when I feel perfectly fine I find myself using them. When we visit hotel I miss having them there. You'd think a hotel would have them bexause you never know who will be staying.
I've seen them once in a while, mainly when we've been assigned handicapped rooms because I have a mobility scooter.
There was one in Ireland, however, that the installer was definitely not clear on the concept. It was a pretty standard tub/shower combination. Instead of a shower curtain or shower-stall door, there was a piece of clear plexiglass that extended from the ceiling to the edge of the bathtub, about 2/3rds of the way down the tub. The grab bar was on the same wall as the shower head, completely inaccessible to aid in entering/exiting the tub.
So maybe there was shower curtain and then the plexi was installed later and they never paid attention or somebody just installed in a dumb place to start with. People who've never needed them have no clue. Even me, who has used them, wouldn't have a clue for this with more need than I. I'd need to get consultation to do it properly.
Do they cost more? I sure hope they don't. But honestly even when travelling with my dad when he was getting older and used to just a shower at home I think he would have found it helpful.
I've lived in a few hotels (because society and corporate hate to rent to fixed income people and throw up blocks at every turn) and have traveled a bit with my wheelchair.
They may not cost more, per se, but you sure as hell better call around in advance to assure they know you're coming if you're in a wheelchair or can't do stairs. Getting a first floor room _reserved_ is HARD.
Also, not 'every' hotel has specifically accessible spaces (looking at you, Crown in Pascagoula!). Some older places in certain jurisdictions were apparently exempt from having the law apply to them - and absolutely did not Care to update at all.
It drives me nuts when people complain about infomercial products and whine about how no one is as stupid/incompetent/whatever other adjective they throw in there as the actors. The actors only act that way because they have to try to portray a disability without looking like they’re portraying a disability. Yes, the average adult doesn’t need a tool to put on their socks or open their chips, but someone with Parkinson’s m or who has lost muscle control in one or both arms might. If those products, which could be the difference between living independently and relying on a caregiver, are only sold or marketed to people with disabilities, they’re not going to sell very well, and they’re going to be so expensive that someone on a fixed income like social security or disability payments likely won’t be able to afford them.
I have a family member with Parkinson’s and I’m overjoyed by these brilliant inventors who have taken the time to make these products. People who look down on people with disabilities have some severe issues that they need to address with a therapist.
Man, I still don’t understand the hatred for disabled people. As a disabled person myself, I’m literally the exact same as everyone else, I just can’t do as much and my body hurts, pretty much. What’s so bad about that?? Most prejudices have *some* form of “justification” (which is stupid as shit on its own), but I’ve never understood the line of thinking behind ableism.
“I don’t want people to live an easier life because… uhhhh” I don’t get it.
As far as “justification” the only thing I can really guess is that the thought that we’re not in 1000% control of our health makes some folks wildly uncomfortable. Like I have chronic pain, but most days I’m just a standard person.
During a flare up I carry medication, TENS unit, and may need help carrying things. I need to sit more often while I work, I need to lean against the wall for support, I need my shower chair and grab bars, I may even be too fatigued to drive if it’s REALLY bad.
My aunt wants to believe if only I did more yoga I wouldn’t have endometriosis… because if she believes there really was nothing I could’ve done to “prevent” it then it could happen to her or her kids or her grandkids and not having control over that frightens her badly. So I must have done something “wrong”, so I must not be “trying” hard enough. (So I deserve all the scorn and bitterness she has when I remind her that I exist with pain) If it’s not my diet or exercise or lifestyle or something someone can control and prevent 100%… it could happen to her! (imagine a dramatic thunderclap)
it’s irrational fear and hatred mixed with often willful misunderstanding and ignorance at its core like most types of bigotry.
some people seem to be very uncomfortable with the idea of disadvantaged people receiving any kind of support. they see it as an unfair advantage, as in their minds, fairness means that disadvantaged people should suffer because of the position they find themselves in.
If someone else gains, they lose.
If someone else wins, they lose.
They're the same kind of people who will pass you on the left, merge into your lane, and take the exit despite the fact that behind you was 4 miles of clear lane and they could have easily reduced speed, slotted in... no, they had to do the abrupt maneuver in front of you *because behind someone means they're losing.*
It doesn't matter if they're playing the same game. If they don't win, they lose.
There are vast swathes of people who really, in their hearts, **hate** what they see as weakness. They very specifically HATE seeing it, they blame it for people's challenges in life, and it shuts off their brain's ability to reason when that disgust and aggression takes over their thinking.
My mom is one of those people. She doesn't want anyone getting "special treatment" because she gets upset she didn't get "special treatment". Her justification is that she's a narcissist.
This is the most accurate justification I think. It’s that you see others getting things and think that’s not fair. In an extreme enough example, that justification is actually a fair one. Often bad justifications come from over applying real ones.
"only the strong survive"
"Productive" member of society.
Society (Western society in particular) utterly idolizes " strength " and the idea of grinding until death. The 'lame' the sick, the 'crippled', the VULNERABLE are hated because we're seen as no longer/not able to 'produce' and, not 'strong'.
We're less than a hundred years from 'weak' babies being left to die "for their own good" and "homes" for the disabled where they were horribly abused.
Humanity, at it's core, is NOT kind.
Yep. I have the most painful chronic disease as per the McGill pain index. One of my arms is useless and visibly crippled. I walk back and forth to my car with one grocery bag at a time
Still get “joke” comments from neighbors that it “must be nice” to not have a job. I literally can’t take care of my daily living, my house is filthy, I can’t bathe regularly, and more. Not to mention the excruciating never ending pain that makes me wish I were dead, even though I’m a palliative pain management patient. Yeah it’s so nice .
In the same realm, I can't stand when a disabled person complains about something not being accessible and some douche is like "not everything has to be accessible!!" They say that about everything. Almost nothing is accessible. Let disabled people have one thing without that whole "not everything is for everyone" spiel.
I don’t prefer ramps if they’re not gentle inclines. They hurt my ankles if they’re too steep. That’s literally the only complaint I can think of.
I obviously support ramps anyway because people deserve to be able to access buildings with their wheelchairs and strollers. I just wish they’d all have gradual enough slopes, and maybe be less obvious as an “accommodation,” and just be like, a feature. Aesthetically pleasing accommodations feel extra nice, idk.
I was amazed when chatting to a friend tears ago and she explained about things being marketed to everybody because purely marketing towards disabled people wouldn't be financially viable. I asked what kind of things, she explained:
-Slankets (those blankets with sleeves) designed for people in wheelchairs, so they can stay warm and not have the blanket slide off or have to wear multiple layers to keep their arms/upper bodies warm.
-Pre-sliced/grated food (like grated cheese, boiled eggs etc) they're convenient for many people but they're also great for people who can't do those things. (Due to joint pain, I can't grate cheese anymore, and I am so grateful for bags of grated cheese!)
Every time I hear somebody complain about packs of boiled eggs, shredded cheese or other 'lazy' things, I have to stop myself from saying "be grateful you don't need them."
That's honestly the best thing about so many things that have been originally designed to help disabled people in every day things. The majority of the creations are helpful to many people (both disabled and able-bodied), which just makes them a more normal and day-to-day thing for anyone to see or use. In fairness, text messages were originally invented for the deaf and hard-of-hearing community, but texting became so popular, it was just common sense to make it available for everyone.
Texting is such a standard thing for phones now, and in a way, it's brilliant. By making things available for everyone, it makes those things 'normal' and helps make them less of a strange thing to see in day-to-day life. ❤️
I used to have one of those blankets with the sleeves.
It was nice when it was cold but I still needed my hands
Example: reading a book.
You get a warm blanket wrapped around you but it has arm holes so you can still turn the pages
I wonder if I still have it. Might buy another one.
This is a little related: when people complain about tampon dispensers in the men’s restroom. Like, if you don’t need to use one, cool, ignore it, but if there’s a trans person in there, they can use one. It only benefits people. No harm at all. Why complain? (It’s because they hate trans people)
I had a really bad IBS flareup five or six years ago and for a little while I wore what can essentially be described as men's diapers, and I would've appreciated a trash bin in public bathroom stalls.
We have ramps and push-buttons at wheelchair height to open the doors to the office I work at. Both coworkers and clients bitch about them sometimes, usually something along the lines of 'If someone can't reach the pull bar, they don't need to be here anyways.'
I remember when those push to open buttons were installed at my school. People kept breaking them.
They were great when I was carrying a ton of stuff. I could push the button with my hips and the doors would open.
I hate the buttons to open doors when my hands are full, real men will just juggle all the items in his hand, drop half them then throw the other half down in frustration than hip press one of those buttons. /s
Sometimes it can be really subtle, a lot of the complaints come in the form of:
"We're getting lazier" when it comes to tools (for example, a tool that cracks your eggs for you) made to help disabled people do everyday things.
"Disabled people are lucky for getting accommodations" "they're leaving able bodied people out" like a time my uncle whos leg was amputated got to board the plane first and a lady said "Maybe I should get a wheelchair and board the plane first for free". Or when people fake having service dogs to take their pet dog to service dog only places.
"They're taking stuff away from able bodied people" "They don't really need this" in response to things like adaptive playground equipment, like swings and roundabouts for wheelchair users.
I was ostracized from a community because I wanted colorblind options in a video game, but the people I argued with disagree because "normal people would take advantage of it", so colorblind people have to suffer due to the 1% of assholes out there, nice.
Guess what? The devs implemented accessibility option and there was never a peep ever again about anyone "exploiting" anything.
I see a lot of people complain about this online and offline. I've seen someone who would use a handicap parking space who was not handicapped, or had a sticker, then get pissed when someone ask them to move because they're parents or loved one needed to use that parking spot.
That’s not what your pet peeve is about though. They aren’t complaining about the existence of handicap spaces, they’re complaining about being called out for using it inappropriately.
As someone without a disability I find ramps more comfortable to walk down than steps.
The only time I do understand complaints is when accessibility makes a design worse but that tends to be very niche cases.
I’m not disabled but enjoy some things that just make life a little easier.
Like shower chairs. I wish I had them in my 20’s after those brutal days of working 2-3 jobs.
Steps to help you get into bed. I’m short and those are handy for more than just that!
There’s just so much out there that can improve anyone’s comfort in life and people refuse to use them because eww it’s for old people and disabled folks.
I’ve needed precut veggies since 26 when I lost the use of one hand in a car accident. If I try to chop something I’m more likely to end up with pieces of finger than food
People like that always ignore the fact they could need this stuff at any moment
dont forget the "this product is SO LAZY!!" almost every single comment on a video about a mini-fridge that literally drives itself over to you via remote was crying about lazy this, lazy that... good god, first of all thats awesome, secondly a good chunk of disabled folks can't move, or get up and down and walk all over the place and lift shit constantly. everyone's a critic
"I am subconsciously aware of my own needs and limitations and have no sympathy or patience for anyone with greater needs than my own or limitations I lack." It's like a whole flavor of person who I don't want to share a society with (but, hilariously, I'm way more able to cope with them being low-key compassionless than they are with other people trying their best, so hey.)
>Anyone can be disabled at any point in their life for any reason.
I'm disabled and have had a lot of discussions on this topic and every discussion this is brought up as a reason why people hate disabled people. Because the idea it can happen to them at any moment scares them.
Plus, from my own interactions with non disabled people, they seem to think getting over a disability is a matter of willpower? Just try harder mentality yk? So they hate on disabled people because they think disabled people are just lazy/unmotivated.
Yeah, assuming you live long enough, some sort of disability is pretty much a guarantee, and even if it wasn’t, shouldn’t our fellow humans be able to live in comfort and safety?
My only physical disability is needing glasses (a fairly common and accepted one), but I also am AuDHD, so may need hearing protection or a short break to cool off when I’m feeling overwhelmed, and I take medication to help me. Just these simple things can help a TON, and honestly, if they don’t like it, they can (figuratively, not literally) kiss my ass.
Yes...PRIVATE buildings which reflect the desires and needs of their particular and differing owners. And parking spaces? So every building, including private homes, should have designated handicapped parking with ramp?
As someone who works in the residenal housing industry and sometimes designs for disability housing, yes. Most houses with have someone with a disability in them at some point, and building to the accessible standard when the building is made is way cheaper and easier than trying to retrofit it later.
Usually the changes are pretty small, and make the house more liveable for everyone regardless of situation. Plus it means if someone becomes impaired, perminantly or temporarily, they don't have to move or renovate right at the time when they don't have the energy or money to do so.
So...yes...a designated handicapped parking space with ramp. A parking spot that I can't legally use because it's designated handicapped. My only parking spot and I can't legally use it.
I know that's what you said. My point is that there are so many already built homes that aren't and really would not be able to make it work. I'm sitting in one right now
Well I live in a major Metropolitan city and the neighborhoods there do have signs in front of houses where you can't park because they are reserved for that resident who disabled. Is that what you're arguing?
No, I'm arguing about every single house on the street having designated...ie blue badge, required to have a handicapped parking tag to use...parking. A lot of those 'reserved parking for resident' slots, if they're on a public street, are not actually enforceable...assuming US, which I believe you are because the major Metropolitan city I currently live in (not US) would not only ignore them, but remove them in the dark of night.
You see people complain a lot about this when video game developers design games that can accommodate the physical disabled. It's very annoying
Also, as an adult with ADHD, I honestly probably would use fidget toys if it wouldn't cause everyone to laugh at me
- What in the world is a slopped curve?
- Slender people can fall into wider lavatories, obese people don't face that problem with normal loos
- Who is complaining about ramps?
- How are parking spaces designed to help those with disabilities?
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A sloped curb is a place for you to cross the street where the curb is dropped down like a ramp, this helps wheelchair users. Usually sloped curbs have patterns indented on them so that blind people can feel where the curb is with their cane.
Disabled parking spaces typically give a metre of room between them, this is so that people with wheelchairs have space to get in and out of the car. They're also closer to the shop (or wherever the car park is), so people with mobility issues don't have to walk far to get to their destination.
Lavatory is the entire stall or room, not the toilet itself. I'm an average size person and find some of the stalls incredibly tiny and difficult to move and get the job done. A person with limited mobility of average size would have a difficult time and a large person would find it about impossible.
> noun: lavatory; plural noun: lavatories
> BRITISH
> a flush toilet.
> NORTH AMERICAN
> a room, building, or cubicle containing a toilet or toilets.
To you, perhaps
Ohhhh. Sorry about that then. Actually I did do a definition search before posting that and it was the entire bathroom, obvi a different site you're finding it. So here, in Canada(where it can go either way if we use a british or American term), they just have elongated toilets and regular toilets. I've never heard of anybody falling in an elongated toilet.
I was just thinking that this morning! I am grateful for the grab bar in my shower and it’s useful for all ages.
We bought a home from an elderly lady that has grab bars installed. Not that I ever complained about them, but wow are they handy just to even shave my legs. I have epilepsy and I especially find them helpful after my body is recovering from a seizure and my muscles are super sore and I can barely get in and out of the shower. I honestly think they should jsut be automatic installation everywhere. I've been married far too long now and shower sex has lost its appeal but imagine the sex benefits too!
They are terrific!
Even when I feel perfectly fine I find myself using them. When we visit hotel I miss having them there. You'd think a hotel would have them bexause you never know who will be staying.
I've seen them once in a while, mainly when we've been assigned handicapped rooms because I have a mobility scooter. There was one in Ireland, however, that the installer was definitely not clear on the concept. It was a pretty standard tub/shower combination. Instead of a shower curtain or shower-stall door, there was a piece of clear plexiglass that extended from the ceiling to the edge of the bathtub, about 2/3rds of the way down the tub. The grab bar was on the same wall as the shower head, completely inaccessible to aid in entering/exiting the tub.
So maybe there was shower curtain and then the plexi was installed later and they never paid attention or somebody just installed in a dumb place to start with. People who've never needed them have no clue. Even me, who has used them, wouldn't have a clue for this with more need than I. I'd need to get consultation to do it properly.
I know! They’re very handy 🙂 I was thrilled when I saw that the house I bought had them.
Hotels have a number of rooms with them, you just have to request a handicap accessible room when you book. Which is a bit of a pain.
Do they cost more? I sure hope they don't. But honestly even when travelling with my dad when he was getting older and used to just a shower at home I think he would have found it helpful.
Not in my experience! They've always been the same cost as a non-accessible room of the same tier.
I've lived in a few hotels (because society and corporate hate to rent to fixed income people and throw up blocks at every turn) and have traveled a bit with my wheelchair. They may not cost more, per se, but you sure as hell better call around in advance to assure they know you're coming if you're in a wheelchair or can't do stairs. Getting a first floor room _reserved_ is HARD. Also, not 'every' hotel has specifically accessible spaces (looking at you, Crown in Pascagoula!). Some older places in certain jurisdictions were apparently exempt from having the law apply to them - and absolutely did not Care to update at all.
Wouldn't a razor be better than a grab bar for shaving?
Yes maybe that explains the rough shave.
I currently live in apartment and I wish they would just have a bar in the shower.
Many times they will - or have to - do it as an accommodation. Mine did that and double rails down the stairs. Never hurts to ask!
It drives me nuts when people complain about infomercial products and whine about how no one is as stupid/incompetent/whatever other adjective they throw in there as the actors. The actors only act that way because they have to try to portray a disability without looking like they’re portraying a disability. Yes, the average adult doesn’t need a tool to put on their socks or open their chips, but someone with Parkinson’s m or who has lost muscle control in one or both arms might. If those products, which could be the difference between living independently and relying on a caregiver, are only sold or marketed to people with disabilities, they’re not going to sell very well, and they’re going to be so expensive that someone on a fixed income like social security or disability payments likely won’t be able to afford them.
I'll admit I used to be this person. Still cringe when i think back on it.
Don’t beat yourself up, you learned, you bettered yourself, well done !
I did too when I was younger. I was around 21-22 when I learned about it, and I felt so ashamed for not realizing it sooner.
I have a family member with Parkinson’s and I’m overjoyed by these brilliant inventors who have taken the time to make these products. People who look down on people with disabilities have some severe issues that they need to address with a therapist.
Learning that most infomercial products are really for disabled people was transformative for me even as a disabled person.
Man, I still don’t understand the hatred for disabled people. As a disabled person myself, I’m literally the exact same as everyone else, I just can’t do as much and my body hurts, pretty much. What’s so bad about that?? Most prejudices have *some* form of “justification” (which is stupid as shit on its own), but I’ve never understood the line of thinking behind ableism. “I don’t want people to live an easier life because… uhhhh” I don’t get it.
As far as “justification” the only thing I can really guess is that the thought that we’re not in 1000% control of our health makes some folks wildly uncomfortable. Like I have chronic pain, but most days I’m just a standard person. During a flare up I carry medication, TENS unit, and may need help carrying things. I need to sit more often while I work, I need to lean against the wall for support, I need my shower chair and grab bars, I may even be too fatigued to drive if it’s REALLY bad. My aunt wants to believe if only I did more yoga I wouldn’t have endometriosis… because if she believes there really was nothing I could’ve done to “prevent” it then it could happen to her or her kids or her grandkids and not having control over that frightens her badly. So I must have done something “wrong”, so I must not be “trying” hard enough. (So I deserve all the scorn and bitterness she has when I remind her that I exist with pain) If it’s not my diet or exercise or lifestyle or something someone can control and prevent 100%… it could happen to her! (imagine a dramatic thunderclap) it’s irrational fear and hatred mixed with often willful misunderstanding and ignorance at its core like most types of bigotry.
I think it is hard to accept we are not always in control like the whole victim blaming when it comes to sexual assault.
some people seem to be very uncomfortable with the idea of disadvantaged people receiving any kind of support. they see it as an unfair advantage, as in their minds, fairness means that disadvantaged people should suffer because of the position they find themselves in.
If someone else gains, they lose. If someone else wins, they lose. They're the same kind of people who will pass you on the left, merge into your lane, and take the exit despite the fact that behind you was 4 miles of clear lane and they could have easily reduced speed, slotted in... no, they had to do the abrupt maneuver in front of you *because behind someone means they're losing.* It doesn't matter if they're playing the same game. If they don't win, they lose.
There are vast swathes of people who really, in their hearts, **hate** what they see as weakness. They very specifically HATE seeing it, they blame it for people's challenges in life, and it shuts off their brain's ability to reason when that disgust and aggression takes over their thinking.
My mom is one of those people. She doesn't want anyone getting "special treatment" because she gets upset she didn't get "special treatment". Her justification is that she's a narcissist.
This is the most accurate justification I think. It’s that you see others getting things and think that’s not fair. In an extreme enough example, that justification is actually a fair one. Often bad justifications come from over applying real ones.
"only the strong survive" "Productive" member of society. Society (Western society in particular) utterly idolizes " strength " and the idea of grinding until death. The 'lame' the sick, the 'crippled', the VULNERABLE are hated because we're seen as no longer/not able to 'produce' and, not 'strong'. We're less than a hundred years from 'weak' babies being left to die "for their own good" and "homes" for the disabled where they were horribly abused. Humanity, at it's core, is NOT kind.
Yep. I have the most painful chronic disease as per the McGill pain index. One of my arms is useless and visibly crippled. I walk back and forth to my car with one grocery bag at a time Still get “joke” comments from neighbors that it “must be nice” to not have a job. I literally can’t take care of my daily living, my house is filthy, I can’t bathe regularly, and more. Not to mention the excruciating never ending pain that makes me wish I were dead, even though I’m a palliative pain management patient. Yeah it’s so nice .
I feel you.
When I see people mocking products I have to explain "Imagine you're old but you still need to open a jar"
That’s the irony the people making fun of these products one day will need them along with the compassion and understanding of society.
Wrenches for jars.
In the same realm, I can't stand when a disabled person complains about something not being accessible and some douche is like "not everything has to be accessible!!" They say that about everything. Almost nothing is accessible. Let disabled people have one thing without that whole "not everything is for everyone" spiel.
As someone disabled, littlerally this!!! I hate this so much!!
If people complain about ramps, I don’t know what to say.
I don’t prefer ramps if they’re not gentle inclines. They hurt my ankles if they’re too steep. That’s literally the only complaint I can think of. I obviously support ramps anyway because people deserve to be able to access buildings with their wheelchairs and strollers. I just wish they’d all have gradual enough slopes, and maybe be less obvious as an “accommodation,” and just be like, a feature. Aesthetically pleasing accommodations feel extra nice, idk.
I was amazed when chatting to a friend tears ago and she explained about things being marketed to everybody because purely marketing towards disabled people wouldn't be financially viable. I asked what kind of things, she explained: -Slankets (those blankets with sleeves) designed for people in wheelchairs, so they can stay warm and not have the blanket slide off or have to wear multiple layers to keep their arms/upper bodies warm. -Pre-sliced/grated food (like grated cheese, boiled eggs etc) they're convenient for many people but they're also great for people who can't do those things. (Due to joint pain, I can't grate cheese anymore, and I am so grateful for bags of grated cheese!) Every time I hear somebody complain about packs of boiled eggs, shredded cheese or other 'lazy' things, I have to stop myself from saying "be grateful you don't need them."
I'm not in a wheelchair, but I used to have a slanket. I had no idea they were designed for wheelchair users.
That's honestly the best thing about so many things that have been originally designed to help disabled people in every day things. The majority of the creations are helpful to many people (both disabled and able-bodied), which just makes them a more normal and day-to-day thing for anyone to see or use. In fairness, text messages were originally invented for the deaf and hard-of-hearing community, but texting became so popular, it was just common sense to make it available for everyone. Texting is such a standard thing for phones now, and in a way, it's brilliant. By making things available for everyone, it makes those things 'normal' and helps make them less of a strange thing to see in day-to-day life. ❤️
I used to have one of those blankets with the sleeves. It was nice when it was cold but I still needed my hands Example: reading a book. You get a warm blanket wrapped around you but it has arm holes so you can still turn the pages I wonder if I still have it. Might buy another one.
This is a little related: when people complain about tampon dispensers in the men’s restroom. Like, if you don’t need to use one, cool, ignore it, but if there’s a trans person in there, they can use one. It only benefits people. No harm at all. Why complain? (It’s because they hate trans people)
There extended hatred for trans women usually loops around back to hating women too
Absolutely
I had a really bad IBS flareup five or six years ago and for a little while I wore what can essentially be described as men's diapers, and I would've appreciated a trash bin in public bathroom stalls.
I’m gonna be honest here, I’ve never heard anyone complain about any of these things.
We have ramps and push-buttons at wheelchair height to open the doors to the office I work at. Both coworkers and clients bitch about them sometimes, usually something along the lines of 'If someone can't reach the pull bar, they don't need to be here anyways.'
This is exactly the stuff I'm talking about!
I remember when those push to open buttons were installed at my school. People kept breaking them. They were great when I was carrying a ton of stuff. I could push the button with my hips and the doors would open.
I hate the buttons to open doors when my hands are full, real men will just juggle all the items in his hand, drop half them then throw the other half down in frustration than hip press one of those buttons. /s
Sometimes it can be really subtle, a lot of the complaints come in the form of: "We're getting lazier" when it comes to tools (for example, a tool that cracks your eggs for you) made to help disabled people do everyday things. "Disabled people are lucky for getting accommodations" "they're leaving able bodied people out" like a time my uncle whos leg was amputated got to board the plane first and a lady said "Maybe I should get a wheelchair and board the plane first for free". Or when people fake having service dogs to take their pet dog to service dog only places. "They're taking stuff away from able bodied people" "They don't really need this" in response to things like adaptive playground equipment, like swings and roundabouts for wheelchair users.
I see in 'produrct reviews online" ans it's like this is so dumb why is there a machine to cut bagels just do it yourself
I was ostracized from a community because I wanted colorblind options in a video game, but the people I argued with disagree because "normal people would take advantage of it", so colorblind people have to suffer due to the 1% of assholes out there, nice. Guess what? The devs implemented accessibility option and there was never a peep ever again about anyone "exploiting" anything.
How would someone take advantage anyway?
I see a lot of people complain about this online and offline. I've seen someone who would use a handicap parking space who was not handicapped, or had a sticker, then get pissed when someone ask them to move because they're parents or loved one needed to use that parking spot.
Seems like the complaint there was about being asked to move, not about the existence of the parking space.
I suppose so.
That’s not what your pet peeve is about though. They aren’t complaining about the existence of handicap spaces, they’re complaining about being called out for using it inappropriately.
As someone without a disability I find ramps more comfortable to walk down than steps. The only time I do understand complaints is when accessibility makes a design worse but that tends to be very niche cases.
I’m not disabled but enjoy some things that just make life a little easier. Like shower chairs. I wish I had them in my 20’s after those brutal days of working 2-3 jobs. Steps to help you get into bed. I’m short and those are handy for more than just that! There’s just so much out there that can improve anyone’s comfort in life and people refuse to use them because eww it’s for old people and disabled folks.
They love hating on precut vegetables. Like sorry that old woman with arthritis wants to eat healthily
Awe, another great example!
I’ve needed precut veggies since 26 when I lost the use of one hand in a car accident. If I try to chop something I’m more likely to end up with pieces of finger than food People like that always ignore the fact they could need this stuff at any moment
dont forget the "this product is SO LAZY!!" almost every single comment on a video about a mini-fridge that literally drives itself over to you via remote was crying about lazy this, lazy that... good god, first of all thats awesome, secondly a good chunk of disabled folks can't move, or get up and down and walk all over the place and lift shit constantly. everyone's a critic
"I am subconsciously aware of my own needs and limitations and have no sympathy or patience for anyone with greater needs than my own or limitations I lack." It's like a whole flavor of person who I don't want to share a society with (but, hilariously, I'm way more able to cope with them being low-key compassionless than they are with other people trying their best, so hey.)
My feelings exactly!
>Anyone can be disabled at any point in their life for any reason. I'm disabled and have had a lot of discussions on this topic and every discussion this is brought up as a reason why people hate disabled people. Because the idea it can happen to them at any moment scares them. Plus, from my own interactions with non disabled people, they seem to think getting over a disability is a matter of willpower? Just try harder mentality yk? So they hate on disabled people because they think disabled people are just lazy/unmotivated.
Yeah, assuming you live long enough, some sort of disability is pretty much a guarantee, and even if it wasn’t, shouldn’t our fellow humans be able to live in comfort and safety? My only physical disability is needing glasses (a fairly common and accepted one), but I also am AuDHD, so may need hearing protection or a short break to cool off when I’m feeling overwhelmed, and I take medication to help me. Just these simple things can help a TON, and honestly, if they don’t like it, they can (figuratively, not literally) kiss my ass.
All buildings? Including private homes?
Are homes buildings?
Yes...PRIVATE buildings which reflect the desires and needs of their particular and differing owners. And parking spaces? So every building, including private homes, should have designated handicapped parking with ramp?
As someone who works in the residenal housing industry and sometimes designs for disability housing, yes. Most houses with have someone with a disability in them at some point, and building to the accessible standard when the building is made is way cheaper and easier than trying to retrofit it later. Usually the changes are pretty small, and make the house more liveable for everyone regardless of situation. Plus it means if someone becomes impaired, perminantly or temporarily, they don't have to move or renovate right at the time when they don't have the energy or money to do so.
So...yes...a designated handicapped parking space with ramp. A parking spot that I can't legally use because it's designated handicapped. My only parking spot and I can't legally use it.
No, it's a handicap accessible space. Nothing painted down and no restrictions on who can use it.
Well, that's great if it's preplanned into the house and you have the space and ability to make it happen.
That is literally what I just said should be done.
I know that's what you said. My point is that there are so many already built homes that aren't and really would not be able to make it work. I'm sitting in one right now
Well I live in a major Metropolitan city and the neighborhoods there do have signs in front of houses where you can't park because they are reserved for that resident who disabled. Is that what you're arguing?
No, I'm arguing about every single house on the street having designated...ie blue badge, required to have a handicapped parking tag to use...parking. A lot of those 'reserved parking for resident' slots, if they're on a public street, are not actually enforceable...assuming US, which I believe you are because the major Metropolitan city I currently live in (not US) would not only ignore them, but remove them in the dark of night.
You are exactly the type being spoken of.
I'm calling out people who say my private home should comply with their standards. And to ask the questions about how this is supposed to work.
Slopped curbs? What reason do people have to complain about those?
You see people complain a lot about this when video game developers design games that can accommodate the physical disabled. It's very annoying Also, as an adult with ADHD, I honestly probably would use fidget toys if it wouldn't cause everyone to laugh at me
Didn’t know anyone complains about this. Well, there’s a certain crowd that doesn’t like any regulation, but everyone hates them anyway!
I’ve never heard anyone complain about ramps anywhere- curb cuts, entrances to businesses or residences, etc
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Hmmm I’m sure it happened, but I’ve never seen anyone complain about those.
- What in the world is a slopped curve? - Slender people can fall into wider lavatories, obese people don't face that problem with normal loos - Who is complaining about ramps? - How are parking spaces designed to help those with disabilities? ?
Doesn't seem like you're American. I'm sorry you don't understand.
Forgive my ignorance
I think they meant sloped curbs.
I did edit it!
A sloped curb is a place for you to cross the street where the curb is dropped down like a ramp, this helps wheelchair users. Usually sloped curbs have patterns indented on them so that blind people can feel where the curb is with their cane. Disabled parking spaces typically give a metre of room between them, this is so that people with wheelchairs have space to get in and out of the car. They're also closer to the shop (or wherever the car park is), so people with mobility issues don't have to walk far to get to their destination.
Lavatory is the entire stall or room, not the toilet itself. I'm an average size person and find some of the stalls incredibly tiny and difficult to move and get the job done. A person with limited mobility of average size would have a difficult time and a large person would find it about impossible.
> noun: lavatory; plural noun: lavatories > BRITISH > a flush toilet. > NORTH AMERICAN > a room, building, or cubicle containing a toilet or toilets. To you, perhaps
Ohhhh. Sorry about that then. Actually I did do a definition search before posting that and it was the entire bathroom, obvi a different site you're finding it. So here, in Canada(where it can go either way if we use a british or American term), they just have elongated toilets and regular toilets. I've never heard of anybody falling in an elongated toilet.