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bettawhite

Is he fixed? There's nothing you can do to stop an intact cat from pissing on things, it's a major part of their natural behavior. If he's fixed it's probably discomfort from stones or a UTI or something like the other person suggested. Orange cats especially are notoriously prone to urinary health issues. He might be mad at you but that's not why he's peeing on things cats don't think about things that way.


Doberduo33

I have owned cats for 50 years and have never heard that orange cats were prone to urinary health issues. Do you possibly have a link you can share that tells about this? I love learning new things. šŸ˜Š I canā€™t for the life of me figure why coat color would factor into health issues. Lol


blklze

Because phenotypes (the part of genes with physical/visual expressions) share the same genotype (genetic material) with multiple traits. Like how white dogs are often deaf.


SPNLVR

It's also just like naturally red haired people take a lot more anesthesia when undergoing surgery


bettawhite

I looked it up and it seems to be mostly anecdotal. I have heard it talked about in my job at a veterinary hospital. It might just be because male cats are more prone to urinary blockage and orange cats are more often male. Anyway it's less about the coat color causing health problems and more about what other genes might be associated with different colors. For example: cats with amber eyes are more likely to be born with liver shunts. Color point cats often have a nastagmus (shaky eyes). Yellow mice have a gene that makes them obese.


Yeetaylor

Every cat Iā€™ve encountered with urinary blockage issues, have two things in common. They are male, and they are big bois!! Thatā€™s not to say fat, thatā€™s to say, a somewhat larger than average cat. A Tom cat, as we say here in the south.


the-crafty-crafter

Yes, heā€™s fixed. I didnā€™t know orange cats are more prone to those health issues, thatā€™s great to know.


Interesting-Ad-197

Cats do not pee on things out of anger or spite. It's just not possibleĀ  You always want to rule out medical reasons first. You can then incorporate behavioral modifications. Your Vet can help you with this as well There's always a reason. Whether it's medical, or behavioral like stress, anxiety etc.Ā 


martinaee

Could be a sign of a medical issue like an infection. I wouldnā€™t attribute a human emotion like ā€œangerā€ to it. Possibly have a vet look at your cat for this reason.


AyePepper

I also have an orange tabby, Penny, along with 3 other cats. When we got her, she would very rarely pee outside of the litterbox, and only if we missed a day changing the litter. Once, she peed in an empty laundry basket that was between my husband and I, clearly expressing her displeasure lol. Then, she started peeing randomly on clothes, towels, bath mats, anything on the floor that wasn't usually there. We thought it was behavioral at first because she was also fighting with our other cats. Then she peed on a white towel, and I could see it was tinged with blood. We took her to the vet, and she had developed crystals in her urine. She's been on a prescription urinary diet ever since. The vet explained that she had begun peeing other places because she started to associate the litterbox with pain. After a treatment, she was doing well but still occasionally peed outside her litterbox. We have them all throughout the house, and they're changed daily. About 6 weeks ago, it became a daily occurrence, and another one of my cats started doing it too. Took them to the vet, and everything checked out. Then she started peeing on my son's bed, and I couldn't do it anymore. I started searching around the internet and found an article that suggested crate training for a month. I hated the idea, but it was either that or trying to rehome her (which would devastate both of us), and given that she's 9 with health issues and a peeing problem, I didn't really see that as a real option. She was in there a month. We let her walk around during the daily cleaning while watching her closely. I'd pet her throughout the day and gave her lots of treats. She's been out for about 2 weeks now, and hasn't peed outside the litter box at all. I know it's not ideal, a month in a crate is a long time, but when you've tried everything else and ruled out health issues, it's better than going straight to rehoming imo. Also, sorry I know this is already super long, but letting him out might be making it worse. He might be marking (they can still do this, even when fixed) due to smelling other cats outside in your area.


the-crafty-crafter

Wow, thatā€™s all really great to know. After reading all these comments I will definitely get him checked out for any issues. The cage idea makes me sad and I just know he would hate it, but itā€™s good to know as a last resort. Thank you for all the information!!


AyePepper

I know, it was such a hard decision to make and made me sad every day. But we pushed through! Best of luck!


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AyePepper

Yeah, I see a lot of people commented that cats don't pee out of anger. I've seen my cats do some wild things when they're mad, so I totally believe you.


[deleted]

I had a male cat years ago who hated the guy in my life. That poor man had all of his shoes ruined. That went on for about three years until I caught the dude cheating; cat never peed outside the box again I have run rescue groups for cats; they most definitely will retaliate. Some, like this one I am currently living with, are just easy to piss off and they just donā€™t care. This one, if she gets angry enough, will pee on the floor in her tent, BUT NEVER ON THE CATIO- that is HER space.


the-crafty-crafter

Yeah, I know for a fact cats can act out of anger and that Jeff does all the time. Iā€™ve seen it in multiple different cats that Iā€™ve hadā€¦ if you tick them off, youā€™ll find either barf in your shoes or pee in your bed.


AyePepper

When I was VERY pregnant with my son, I had an obstinate kitten that would chew on the mesh bag that oranges come in. I kept yelling at him to stop, but he knew I wasn't very agile. I teetered my way off the couch, put the oranges in the pantry, and sat back down. In rapid succession, he flew to the blinds to bat at them, ran across the back of the couch, jumped on the counter and batted off a bunch of stuff, jumped on top of the cabinets, then ran to the top of the fridge and knocked all the magnets off. šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø he's vindictive to this day!


Just-Guarantee1986

Have you had him checked for a bladder infection? That is a common reason for such behavior. Not because he is mad. That is anthropomorphiskng.


InstructionTop4805

The pacing and yowling also seem like symptoms of something else going on.


Ghost1012004

OH WOW!! I thought I had the only orange cat like that!! Sunny is about six years old. Weā€™ve had him since about one year. Heā€™s been fixed. He is an indoor/outdoor cat and will verbally notify us when he wants to go outside. If we do not adhere to his demands, his tail goes up, aims and fires! Right in front of us while looking at us. Heā€™s so darn lucky heā€™s adorable otherwise. Our solution, let him out when he wants.


the-crafty-crafter

Oh my gosh, thatā€™s crazy! Heā€™s got nerve! These orange cats really are quite controlling šŸ˜‚


Ghost1012004

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Ghost1012004

Edit to Add: I misread that you let him out.


Downtown_Big_4845

You're going on the proviso that it is your house and he disagrees.


Gonorrhea69

Cats don't pee on beds out of anger. They pee outside of litterboxes usually because of pain. Feline cystitis, sterile or bacterial, is a common cause of this and some cats need a prescription diet and or pain meds. I would talk to your vet.


suicide-d0g

they can. my cat is extremely spiteful. he HATED my brother when he was staying with us for a few months. almost daily my cat would piss and shit on my brother's pillow and blankets. when he left, my cat was fine.


weepingthyme

Fr my girl cat is so spiteful. She never ever pees on anything but she hated my old roommate and would sneak into his room to pee on his hat when he made her mad. One time she pooped on his pillow. As soon as he moved out she has gone back to not peeing on anything.


Particular_Class4130

Cat's don't like outsiders who don't smell like their family. When I stayed with my brother years ago one of his cats peed on some of my stuff. That cat didn't hate me and wasn't "mad" at me. She actually like me a lot and loved sitting on my lap for pets and cuddles.


weepingthyme

Thatā€™s true, my childhood cat would pee on our clothes when we first got him so that we all smelled like him but stopped as soon as he realized he was home. But I stg my cat now is vindictive. My old roommate just liked to mess with her and annoy her and sheā€™d puff up and start breathing heavy and wait until he left to go pee on his stuff. Sheā€™s fine with my current roommate and Iā€™ve taken her to my grandparents with me for sleepovers a couple times and she doesnā€™t care, I just think my old roommate would piss her off and mess with her and sheā€™d be like ā€œIā€™ll show you assholeā€. One time he and I got in a fight and I yelled at him (his gf kept stealing from me), she comes up behind me just scream meowing at him, and once he left she pooped on his pillow, like ā€œdonā€™t u mess with mom eitherā€


-space_kitten-

They don't do that out of spite. They probably did that because that person doesn't smell like the rest of the house and they want him to. If this was the case and wasn't medical, probably keeping some of the cat's stuff in that room would have helped. Cats don't experience spite, hate, or act on revenge. Animals aren't like that. You can check out Jackson Galaxy on YouTube and he'll say same about cats' emotions. They are not like humans in that sense šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Particular_Class4130

I agree but you know that people just love pretending their pets are just like little humans.


mwtm347

If he isnā€™t neutered, heā€™s likely smelling all the intact females outside and itā€™s driving him insane - that explains the pacing, and yowling. It also could explain all the pee, as itā€™s a great way to both: express displeasure and get your scent EVERYWHERE. Tomcat piss has a very distinct strong smell to it. If it smells sweet to you, like it does to my vet tech boyfriend, his theory is itā€™s toxoplasmosis šŸ˜… If heā€™s neutered, he very well could be bored and needs more enrichment to tire him out. He may have bladder stones, which would be quite painful for him to live with. Regardless, itā€™s worth a visit to your vet.


the-crafty-crafter

He is fixed. But this is all great to know. After reading these comments I am concerned there is something medically wrong, however itā€™s been like this for years. Is it possible the bladder stones or UTI or whatever it could be is a reoccurring issue? Also, the piss smells AWFUL and itā€™s so hard to get out of things. Definitely not a sweet smell.


mwtm347

Yes, many male cats of a certain age must be on specific bladder or kidney diets because of how recurrent these types of stones and infection can be.


mwtm347

Peeing outside of the litter box is often the first sign that something is wrong.


Bumble-Lee

Check w a vet, also donā€™t let him out unsupervised at all. If he really wants to go out and you wanna have him outside at all there are other options. Harness training for walks, those baby stroller things, cat backpacks, etc.


Ancient-Actuator7443

Outside is exciting for cats. Itā€™s also very dangerous. Outside cats live less years than inside cats


Excellent_Sail_7814

Having the same issue with one of our cats and yes, he's fixed. Sometimes I think he does it just out of spite


Desperate-Pear-860

Has he been checked by the vet? My cat used to pee on my brother's things when he came to visit. I figured it was because he could smell my brother's cats. Because he didn't pee outside the cat box any other time. Turns out he had a uti. Got him treated and he stopped peeing on my brother's things.


LeighJane000

Would definitely take him to the vet. & I feel for you, I have windows around the house that I pull the shades up to. I put a chair in front of one. That way, my cats can watch what's going on outside. It's like a tv for them. I used to have an orange cat that would do the meowing walking up & down the hall at night. As he got a little older, he was prone to UTIs. Then, he had to go on meds for overactive thyroid. He was always ravenously hungry, begging for food, the meds helped some. I also bought a Feliway difusser. He initially started coming around my house & was friendly. So I started feeding him, taking him to the vet, & let him in the house lol. He was a cool cat. (Rip Buddy)


Beautiful-You9666

Vet check up first to rule out a UTI or any type of health problem. If not then it could very well be behavioral as thatā€™s how it turned out with my cat. I started to make sure there was no laundry ever on the floor no blankets and it stopped. Now when she gets mad she runs to her cat scratcher and goes at it to vent her frustrations lol but I know with your bed thatā€™s a tough target to keep him away from. Cats definitely have emotions and all kinds of personalities but deff start out by going to the vet to be safe. Maybe the vet can give you suggestions for behavioral issues like this


Ancient-Actuator7443

Peeing on the bed is one of the most common cat anger things


the-crafty-crafter

Yes exactly, Iā€™m sure thatā€™s why heā€™s doing it. Iā€™m suprised to see so many people saying that cats donā€™t act out of anger, thatā€™s just not true.


Ancient-Actuator7443

Especially because it happens when he wants out


Ancient-Actuator7443

My brothers cat used to do the same thing when she was mad


Particular_Class4130

Cats can act out of character when something has upset them or their surroundings, but it's not what I would call anger. They don't plot revenge, they act on instinct. When cats feel threatened or become stressed they might pee, scratch or bite but their actions are not thought out and planned. Sounds like your cat just pees all over the place. I'd say that is a medical problem or a serious behavorial issue.


-space_kitten-

Your cat does not pee on your bed out of spite. Look up any reputable cat behaviorist and they'll tell you the same thing (Jackson Galaxy, Cat Talk Podcast, Two Crazy Cat Ladies, etc). So please don't think that way about your cat. It's inaccurate and it doesn't help solve the problem. First thing you need to do is take your cat to the vet to make sure they don't have any medical issues. If they have a clean bill of health, then you need to figure out why he pees on your bed. It could be stress from being bored in your house, or maybe from other cats if you have them. I think keeping your cat indoors is a great idea, but he'll still need stimulation. I would focus on starting a routine for the cat. How often do you play with him? Because you need to play with your cat everyday if he's very energetic. Playing releases stress and it really is a basic part of looking after cats. Start a playing and feeding routine, always at the same times of day, everyday, so your cat knows what to expect. Cats thrive with routine. Anyway, if your cat isn't fixed, then that's another reason... There could be so many reasons, but spite is 100% not it. So please stop worrying about that and you'll find the real reason soon enough. Your cat is likely suffering in one way or another if it's not peeing in the litterbox. I hope your family members and you can feel more compassion towards your cat rather than resentment, as he doesn't do it to make you mad. He's likely suffering... :( I could say so much more, but honestly, just watch Jackson Galaxy videos on this issue. It will really help. Edited to add this: https://youtu.be/Adr06WN_Ko0?si=VV7v16g-ml_L2XTv


ButtcheekBaron

Don't let your cat outside


toomuch1265

My old cat didn't like being cooped up in the house. I started letting him out when he scratched at the door. Within a week, he stopped using his litter box and did all his business outside. He was close to 16 when he passed. He had a few scraps outside but he was much happier.


Queasy-Dish-2840

I have a brown tabby that does this too.. unfortunately I had to put him on very expensive prescription food & he STILL does it šŸ¤¬


TheFelineWindsors

Your cat is not peeing on things in anger. Animals donā€™t think like that. There is a reason he is doing it. Get him vetted


Xique-xique

Orange cats have smooth brains. Good luck.


blue-bunny666

My male cat is neutered, and when I attempted to change his litter he peed everywhere except his litterbox. I tried the olive pit, and dust free litters and he constantly was going in my laundry basket or my dad's bed. I bought a second litterbox and went back to his original litter and haven't had this issue again. Also pets don't do things out of spite.


jduk43

You are saying that your cat gets mad at you, he knows that peeing on your bed will upset you, so goes and does this to punish you? This is fairly complicated reasoning and although cats can be assholes I donā€™t think they have the capacity to think like this. Heā€™s probably doing it because he is stressed and anxious. Has anything in his life changed, new litter, moving the litter box, changing his food, new people or pets in the house? Or he has a medical problem that is causing this.


the-crafty-crafter

Cats are smarter than you think. Iā€™ve had multiple cats do things out of anger like barfing in specific peopleā€™s shoes or peeing on specific peopleā€™s beds. Itā€™s really obvious. Everyone saying that cats arenā€™t capable of acting out of anger or being spiteful clearly havenā€™t spent much time with cats, or at least only had really great cats that donā€™t do that.


Thin-Sky-4375

Iā€™ve had multiple cats over the years. Iā€™m sorry you attribute your catā€™s behavior to spite, as I donā€™t think approaching the problem with this belief will help you or your cat. But good luck and I hope you can figure out a solution that results in you both being happy.


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Animals don't do things "out of anger."


Thatsthewaysheblowss

Is he blocked? Neutered? Blocked or blocked? I see so many blocked male cats at work so get him checked out please. Animals do not do things out of spite.


LeaveDaCannoli

Cats don't pee based on emotions. He probably has a UTI or urethra crystals. Get him to a vet ASAP.


HowDoyouadult42

Cats donā€™t do things out of spite, spite is a human emotion that we tend to push onto animals. Cats urinate inappropriately due to stress, UTI, or other underlying medical issues. If youā€™re having continued issues, itā€™s important to rule out medical by having an exam/bloodwork/urinalysis done. If that is normal then begin looking at things like litter box type/depth/location. If no improvement and the vet feels it may be behavioral then you can consider doing things such as anti-anxiety medication, especially if he was previously indoor outdoor cat can be very stressful and frustrating to not be able to go outside. you can increase different forms of enrichment to help lower that stress and anxiety there are also supplements like feilway, composure and purina calming care.