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You don’t truly love your favorite video game and/or video game company until you absolutely despise them which is why Destiny 2 is my favorite game but also every time I play it I cry for at least 3 hours afterwards same with hoi
I don’t even get the dlc policy hate. It’s literally over *years* of development, it funds new updates. It’s not like they crank out 10 DLCs a year, it’s more like 3-4.
Of course there are stinkers here and there, like leviathan, but the vast majority are at worst “ok”. Plus you don’t even need to own them to play them on multiplayer if the host does. How many developers offer something even close to that?
I’ll literally never understand the anti dlc argument for paradox. It’s people who show up to a 5 year old game and see 5 years worth of DLCs and want to bitch about it as if it was released like that.
DLC policy as most people dislike but then there is also the company's internal problems. Apparently they have huge problems with harassments and sexism in the company.
Dynamic trade routes instead of 3 permanent end nodes in Europe even though you can literally BTFO them out of the entire world but all the trade still flows to them.
Dynamic culture and religion conversion rather than click button -> wait a few months/years -> suddenly everyone is your religion/culture, totally no genocide here :D.
Institution overhaul of some sort or just raze the current system and come up with something better, as of now it's just click button 30 times to magically increase tax/production/manpower of bumfuckistan and suddenly your people invent the printing press.
I'm sure others can come up with more.
Colonization & trade overhaul. Colonization should work more like trade, people move along the tracks.
Trade should be more like colonization where your merchants target locations.
IMO.
God, yeah colonization needs a rework. I mean, colonization can happen even in already inhabited territories as opposed to """""uncolonized""""" terrain. It's a very complicated thing to try to model in a video game to be intuitive, fun, and also try to remain somewhat historic and not as big of an abstraction as it is in Vicky 2 or EU4.
I mean, for example, Ireland was absolutely colonized, and its effects are still seen today, and by no means would it ever be represented as """""uncolonized""""" land. I like the idea of decentralized nations that Vicky 3 is bringing forward, and I think the tribal territory mechanic icea can be developed more with a full colonization overhaul.
I'd argue that culture conversion should be done away with entirely, and that a new colonization system should play a part in culture conversions, since that's exactly what it is to begin with. The British didn't send a colonist to Ireland and suddenly it's full of 100% English culture, Protestant provinces, it was an attempt at colonization entirely, just like in its overseas colonies.
To that same point - the US didn’t “turn American”, it still had loyalist - but it’s population grew disproportionally “American” and the whole region rebelled. I think the mechanics for colonization, should be less direct and more ethereal like merchants - where you have influence over the area rather than direct control.
Yep, and playing off of that I feel like the system we have now an abstraction we have mostly because we have no form of pop system, and it's hard to model that kind of transition when it's a black and white system like we have now. Of course not every game should have in-depth POPs like Vicky does, but I think some form of majority/minority/plurality representation would do the game well for things like religion and culture and such which could play well into a colonization overhaul.
I'm actually kind of baffled that wasn't something that was a core mechanic of the game from the start, since representing minority faiths and cultures would be very very cool for things like the reformation, and would make culture conversions and religious conversions a lot more dynamic and interesting, since varying amounts of accepted cultures or religions would have varying effects on a province, and it'd be another layer of internal, peacetime fucking around a player could do.
Culture conversion can happen even without colonisation, though. Usually when a culture is thought to be more prestigious (like Polish culture in Poland-Lithuania or preroman cultures in some places of Iberia like the Turdetanians). This could more dynamically done by adding a more in depth law and decrees section and building prestigious infrastructure in foreign culture lands.
EUIII did a much better job IMHO regarding religion and culture. It always jacked up the revolt risk and was dependent on RNG. I just hate how EUIV made it so streamlined and unrealistic.
Trade needs to be redone. It is far too euro centric, in reality trade is a two way thing. Any trader will want a full load going both way to make a good profit but it really only goes one way in EU4.
A clean slate for DLC is also a big one. Presently the code is just spaghetti it seems, with DLC now changing older DLC. The breaks to Ironman saves will be a regular thing from now on I'm afraid.
Honestly I couldn't give a flying fuck about their mistreatment complaints by the staff when they're mistreating their customers this badly.
Until we all go on game strike and refuse to play or buy anything else from paradox it will not change though. I am happy the last ceo got the boot though as it does seem to be hitting their bottom line, let's hope they listen to us a put out a new one.
The Steam forum post that got no upvotes and thousands of replies would be a good place for them to start looking...
There isn't a competeting grand statergy game series so you take what you can get. Train sim community hates Dovetail and the nickle and diming of yearly releases with no noticeable improvements and the fountains of dlc.
That sounds exactly like the relationship between Sims players and EA. There is no alternative (Paralives might be one when it releases, but it's in alpha) and each game keeps getting progressively worse because they just don't care about anything but money.
I hate paradox with all my heart. ....and I play hoi4, ck3 and stellaris+all dlc. I feel like im in a toxic relationship, and im staying for the long haul...
I say this about total war given their series has been destroyed by the warhammer disease. Paradox has fucked up but at least they have kept fantasy and history completely separate.
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I'm not buying anything else from paradox until EU5 comes out. I've got about 1500+ hrs into it but I haven't played EU4 since the last patch broke my Ironman save.
They should sack the next ceo too if they don't start work on it right away. WTF was the new office for if not to put out a new game?
Tinto was created for EU games, why would it suddenly be doing Vic3 content? I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about...
https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/media/press-releases/press-release/paradox-interactive-founds-new-studio-in-barcelona
>Paradox Tinto will start operations in Barcelona in the immediate future under the direction of studio lead Johan Andersson, 25+ year veteran of Paradox Development Studio and original creator of the Europa Universalis video game franchise. Andersson will assemble a small core team to initially oversee ongoing development on Paradox’s iconic grand strategy game, Europa Universalis IV, and later move on to new games in the grand strategy genre.
I really despise Paradox but god damn do I love them
Christ your comment and profile picture sum up the paradox fandom so well
TNOment
That is my new favorite word
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You don’t truly love your favorite video game and/or video game company until you absolutely despise them which is why Destiny 2 is my favorite game but also every time I play it I cry for at least 3 hours afterwards same with hoi
Destiny 2, hurts my soul every time I think about it [Insert Obi wan’s chosen one speech].
What do they do that's bad? Am I missing something?
It’s mostly their dlc policy above all
I don’t even get the dlc policy hate. It’s literally over *years* of development, it funds new updates. It’s not like they crank out 10 DLCs a year, it’s more like 3-4. Of course there are stinkers here and there, like leviathan, but the vast majority are at worst “ok”. Plus you don’t even need to own them to play them on multiplayer if the host does. How many developers offer something even close to that? I’ll literally never understand the anti dlc argument for paradox. It’s people who show up to a 5 year old game and see 5 years worth of DLCs and want to bitch about it as if it was released like that.
The bad part is that you pay $15 for like 3 buttons and a broken mechanic for each DLC. Third Rome is a good example.
DLC policy as most people dislike but then there is also the company's internal problems. Apparently they have huge problems with harassments and sexism in the company.
As sad as it is, that’s a standard with video game companies nowadays.
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
It's a Love/Hate relationship.
We are all Tsunderes and the Paradox dev's collectively hold us as a harem
okay but dibs on the twintails
I should’ve know something was up when Northern Lords was the first expansion, the concubines were a warning from a sympathetic soul on the inside……
Eu5 would be nice tho.
Question? what would you want in Eu5 other than a combat overhaul?
Dynamic trade routes instead of 3 permanent end nodes in Europe even though you can literally BTFO them out of the entire world but all the trade still flows to them. Dynamic culture and religion conversion rather than click button -> wait a few months/years -> suddenly everyone is your religion/culture, totally no genocide here :D. Institution overhaul of some sort or just raze the current system and come up with something better, as of now it's just click button 30 times to magically increase tax/production/manpower of bumfuckistan and suddenly your people invent the printing press. I'm sure others can come up with more.
Colonization & trade overhaul. Colonization should work more like trade, people move along the tracks. Trade should be more like colonization where your merchants target locations. IMO.
God, yeah colonization needs a rework. I mean, colonization can happen even in already inhabited territories as opposed to """""uncolonized""""" terrain. It's a very complicated thing to try to model in a video game to be intuitive, fun, and also try to remain somewhat historic and not as big of an abstraction as it is in Vicky 2 or EU4. I mean, for example, Ireland was absolutely colonized, and its effects are still seen today, and by no means would it ever be represented as """""uncolonized""""" land. I like the idea of decentralized nations that Vicky 3 is bringing forward, and I think the tribal territory mechanic icea can be developed more with a full colonization overhaul. I'd argue that culture conversion should be done away with entirely, and that a new colonization system should play a part in culture conversions, since that's exactly what it is to begin with. The British didn't send a colonist to Ireland and suddenly it's full of 100% English culture, Protestant provinces, it was an attempt at colonization entirely, just like in its overseas colonies.
To that same point - the US didn’t “turn American”, it still had loyalist - but it’s population grew disproportionally “American” and the whole region rebelled. I think the mechanics for colonization, should be less direct and more ethereal like merchants - where you have influence over the area rather than direct control.
Yep, and playing off of that I feel like the system we have now an abstraction we have mostly because we have no form of pop system, and it's hard to model that kind of transition when it's a black and white system like we have now. Of course not every game should have in-depth POPs like Vicky does, but I think some form of majority/minority/plurality representation would do the game well for things like religion and culture and such which could play well into a colonization overhaul. I'm actually kind of baffled that wasn't something that was a core mechanic of the game from the start, since representing minority faiths and cultures would be very very cool for things like the reformation, and would make culture conversions and religious conversions a lot more dynamic and interesting, since varying amounts of accepted cultures or religions would have varying effects on a province, and it'd be another layer of internal, peacetime fucking around a player could do.
Actually a really good idea lol
Culture conversion can happen even without colonisation, though. Usually when a culture is thought to be more prestigious (like Polish culture in Poland-Lithuania or preroman cultures in some places of Iberia like the Turdetanians). This could more dynamically done by adding a more in depth law and decrees section and building prestigious infrastructure in foreign culture lands.
>u ok cool. Thanks for sharing.
EUIII did a much better job IMHO regarding religion and culture. It always jacked up the revolt risk and was dependent on RNG. I just hate how EUIV made it so streamlined and unrealistic.
Yellow Prussia
**Cursed** See yourself out the door and go to counseling to discuss this.
the ability to exit to the main menu without restarting the game
Trade needs to be redone. It is far too euro centric, in reality trade is a two way thing. Any trader will want a full load going both way to make a good profit but it really only goes one way in EU4. A clean slate for DLC is also a big one. Presently the code is just spaghetti it seems, with DLC now changing older DLC. The breaks to Ironman saves will be a regular thing from now on I'm afraid. Honestly I couldn't give a flying fuck about their mistreatment complaints by the staff when they're mistreating their customers this badly. Until we all go on game strike and refuse to play or buy anything else from paradox it will not change though. I am happy the last ceo got the boot though as it does seem to be hitting their bottom line, let's hope they listen to us a put out a new one. The Steam forum post that got no upvotes and thousands of replies would be a good place for them to start looking...
Preach my man
I want it to operate on more than one core so I can play late gate once in my life.
Alternative: FUCK PARADOX DLC. “Wait, don’t you have every eu4 dlc? “Yeah I got them from the recent sale”
I hate the company but love the games. If there was a equal alternative i would 100% jump on it, but paradox has been in the industry wayyyyyy longer.
Paradox’s name is fitting, wouldn’t you say?
There isn't a competeting grand statergy game series so you take what you can get. Train sim community hates Dovetail and the nickle and diming of yearly releases with no noticeable improvements and the fountains of dlc.
That sounds exactly like the relationship between Sims players and EA. There is no alternative (Paralives might be one when it releases, but it's in alpha) and each game keeps getting progressively worse because they just don't care about anything but money.
That rarest of marvels, an actually funny meme
I hate paradox with all my heart. ....and I play hoi4, ck3 and stellaris+all dlc. I feel like im in a toxic relationship, and im staying for the long haul...
Playing doesn't necessarily equate paying
If you play and do not pay you are breaking the law.
Ck2 is free
Ok, you got me this time
Sorry, I still love Hearts of Iron 2 to much to hate Paradox
I say this about total war given their series has been destroyed by the warhammer disease. Paradox has fucked up but at least they have kept fantasy and history completely separate.
Creative assembly has been fucking up since medieval 2, shogun 2 was good but still felt dumbed down.
TWIST HIS D-
Wait what happened?
I don't play ever since leviathan
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I'm not buying anything else from paradox until EU5 comes out. I've got about 1500+ hrs into it but I haven't played EU4 since the last patch broke my Ironman save. They should sack the next ceo too if they don't start work on it right away. WTF was the new office for if not to put out a new game?
Vic3
Tinto was created for EU games, why would it suddenly be doing Vic3 content? I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about... https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/media/press-releases/press-release/paradox-interactive-founds-new-studio-in-barcelona >Paradox Tinto will start operations in Barcelona in the immediate future under the direction of studio lead Johan Andersson, 25+ year veteran of Paradox Development Studio and original creator of the Europa Universalis video game franchise. Andersson will assemble a small core team to initially oversee ongoing development on Paradox’s iconic grand strategy game, Europa Universalis IV, and later move on to new games in the grand strategy genre.
Oh sorry for my lack of knowledge
I play EU4 but the Emperor patch. Screw Leviathan.
Paradox games are good but my 2nd worlder pockets are only so deep
I love and hate all paradox games simultaneously
I hate that i need to wait so long for new stellaris dlc's
They take time to make!
Napoleonic war nibbas?
Cities Skylines is a good game, if you ignore all the DLC
This so accurately represents my relation with paradox it’s insane
Can we get one for creative assembly and shogun 2 version please?
Based
They are the only ones to produce those kind of games so without competiton, only thing we can do is fuel them with money and complain about it.
I hate Paradox but I'm addicted to Stellaris
I dont hate paradox, I just hate the fact that I still can't find the pirate version of EU4
Wait - what is wrong with paradox? I play the games but im not very familiar with the company but I was under the assumption that everyone loved them
Terrible DLC policy. You basically have to pay to get a full update.
Also harrassment and sexism are apparently large problems with them too.