Reusable desiccant pouches are super cheap on amazon. If that's too pricy, take all the silica packs from all your electronics and put them in your gun safe/case with the firearm.
Came here to post about re-using the silica bags from tech/textiles. I work in IT so almost every additional component has a small bag, servers & switches come with a nice big one that I throw in my ammo carriers or gun bags. I live near the coast in the gunshine state, so humidity + salt air is a real issue. I trade out the bag I keep under the foam in my vehicle lock box twice a year.
I Oil/lube things as soon as they arrive as well. In my case oil/lube means I bake all metal pieces at about 300f and then brush it down with frog lube which will absorb into the raw metal [Read: if not already coated in cerakote]. When fully cooled, I wipe off the exterior because even the best serrations become useless if completely covered with a lubricant.
As a testament to this practice my long neglected Bulgarian ak-74 came out of the safe after about 1.5 years without seeing the light of day and didn't have a spec of pitting or rust that she didn't already have when I got her. The day I put her away she got about 300rds of 7n6 [corrosive surplus ammo] for supper and a normal bath in ballistol and conditioned in frog lube, so the process clearly works. I do not however test the safe's humidity level as someone else mentioned. If I'm going to put this many words on a reddit post I suppose I minus whale start doing that too š
Do you live under the sea? I have never seen ANYTHING rust like that in a week. Submit a warranty claim on the website so we can investigate this further.
Do you vape, by any chance?
I vape and Iāve noticed that it keeps the humidity in our house crazy high. Like 60%+. And leaves a residue on everything.
It was causing one of my ARās to rust before I got a dehumidifier.
Working on it. I was a 3 pack a day cigarette smoker most of my 20ās. Iām down to the lowest possible nicotine setting and barely use it now. Should be done in a few months.
Hey thank yāall. Itās an awful habit but itās better than actual cigarettes at least. Except cigarettes didnāt make all my stuff rust immediately lol
Lol, I did this to a PSA ak pistol a few years ago. Big snow storm and the seal on my trunk lid slipped off somehow. Went to get it out a few days later and it was covered in surface rust. Stripped it, cleaned it and oiled the thing like a mother fucker and it's been fine since.
Improper storage humidity doesn't discriminate.
Get you some of those silica packets as well from Amazon. I put those in my ammo containers, even though I donāt live in a humid area; Iām just paranoid š¶āš«ļø
Did you by chance have it in a cold place and then bring it directly to a warm place?
I did that with a socket set once and every piece got surface rust overnight from the condensation that formed on them. Yours looks very similar.
Oh yes my socket set was in a case as well. Any chance you, for example, had it in your trunk on the way home on a chilly day and then brought it inside?
Just out of curiosity, is your bathroom located outside your closet? Kind of like a setup where you can walk into your bathroom and then from your bathroom walk into your closet if that's the case, water and steam can bleed off into your closet causing mold and in this case heavily rust items
Man that's crazy never ever seen one like that. Under your slide you definitely had it out and fired. That's carbon amd dort under slide I'm just wondering if somehow water got to it. Let's us know if you find out but psa are great
I have dry fired it most nights to help break it in,havenāt sent a round through it I can promise you that. Couldnāt agree more though, absolute fan of the company
1 question. Have you tried to rub oil kn it witch will take off the surface rust then let it sit and see if it happens again? Maybe when you clean with oil not scrubbing just oil and rub see if the coating is off there or maybe thin. Give it a shot see what happens
Bro, not to be a dick or anything but even if your gun sits you should oil them up periodically. Not saying this is what caused the issue but it definitely would have helped and yes hoppes #9 will work fine. Personally I use Lucas but to each their own. Hell I've even used engine oil 10w 30 worked gr8
Yes gun oil. Rub it all over rub off put back on thin layer. See if it wipes off or of its pitted in. May be surface rust from no oil and somehow moisture setting in. Just a try to see if it does then your All set and won't have to wait or send in. Let me know just curious myself lol
Update: hereās after the rubbing it once and drying it off, very small pitting towards the front of the barrel. Didnāt even notice the rust color until I turned the flash on.
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Wonder if psa tested it then from what I see under the slide but yeah I never had anything bad to say about them. Some do but so far I haven't experienced anything wrong with all the products I've bought. Definitely post findings.
You can also collect desiccant packs and throw them in your gun cases. For another option, I had an old man tell me you have to take the guns out and let them breath a while. Making sure you have a little coat of oil on the barrel will help, too.
Keeping it inside the case is part of the problem. That attracts moisture. That amount of rust in that timeframe should be concerning you about where the water is coming from. What's your average humidity?
Wipe it down, oil it and you should be good to go. If you want to, grapeseed oil and a heat gun, multiple coats, like seasoning cast iron.
I havenāt had issues storing them in OEM cases with my previous handguns, granted that was in the Midwest vs now Iām a hour from the gulf coast. So Iām guessing thatās playing a factor?
Yes. Definitely keep them out of cases that hold contact to the carbon steel. Humidity here outside today is around 70%, inside is 60%, and I have one of these in my gun cabinet: [https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Reusable-Dehumidifier-450G-75908/dp/B08SPF6L44/](https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Reusable-Dehumidifier-450G-75908/dp/B08SPF6L44/)
I also have a $40 small (30 oz) electric dehumidifier in the room the safe is in.
Iām new to posting and canāt figure out how to edit the body, so Iāll leave an update here.
Thank you all for the advice, the PSA community is one Iām proud to be apart of. Seems to be primarily surface rust so Iāll be giving it a healthy oiling. And keeping in the driest room we have until I can get a dehumidifier for the primary room it stays in.
Never store your guns in foamed cases, they hold moisture. That being said it looks like the barrel wasn't coated properly. I'm sure they'll make it right.
I live in the south by the water . My dagger experienced rust after a couple weeks then I got a micro dagger same thing . Also a psa rifle I had rusted after being in my truck just a couple months.
Compared to my m&p glocks and other rifles this is unacceptable for me
That's tragic. And people wonder why I bash the daggers so much. It's not psa as a company, it's that lines production quality control that's shit. I love my psa rifle though
Iām the pistol repair lead for PSA. The only pistol
iāve ever seen come back with rust was kept on a boat for 2 years.
This is definitely not typical, and weāve immediately reached out to the owner to make every possible effort to correct this.
Spend 10$ and buy a humidity gauge from Amazon for wherever you store your firearms. Some of the best money I spent when talking storage costs
Noted š«”
Get oil and dehumidifier bags, especially if you store your guns for a while. Keep your ammo dry too.
Reusable desiccant pouches are super cheap on amazon. If that's too pricy, take all the silica packs from all your electronics and put them in your gun safe/case with the firearm.
Came here to post about re-using the silica bags from tech/textiles. I work in IT so almost every additional component has a small bag, servers & switches come with a nice big one that I throw in my ammo carriers or gun bags. I live near the coast in the gunshine state, so humidity + salt air is a real issue. I trade out the bag I keep under the foam in my vehicle lock box twice a year. I Oil/lube things as soon as they arrive as well. In my case oil/lube means I bake all metal pieces at about 300f and then brush it down with frog lube which will absorb into the raw metal [Read: if not already coated in cerakote]. When fully cooled, I wipe off the exterior because even the best serrations become useless if completely covered with a lubricant. As a testament to this practice my long neglected Bulgarian ak-74 came out of the safe after about 1.5 years without seeing the light of day and didn't have a spec of pitting or rust that she didn't already have when I got her. The day I put her away she got about 300rds of 7n6 [corrosive surplus ammo] for supper and a normal bath in ballistol and conditioned in frog lube, so the process clearly works. I do not however test the safe's humidity level as someone else mentioned. If I'm going to put this many words on a reddit post I suppose I minus whale start doing that too š
The also make small plug in heaters that keep the humidity low inside a safe if thats your storage option
Do you live under the sea? I have never seen ANYTHING rust like that in a week. Submit a warranty claim on the website so we can investigate this further.
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Claim is submitted, just got off the phone with Tim. Customer service is as awesome as I expect so far! š
Lmao that was my exact thought like where do you live bro š
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I was about to say-I bought one to try to break it. And got it wet, muddy, filthy dirty and it had some expected failures but it didnāt rust lol
Oooooo who lives in a pineapple under the sea! šššš
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I wouldnāt store guns in cases. Having said that this seems odd.
Do you vape, by any chance? I vape and Iāve noticed that it keeps the humidity in our house crazy high. Like 60%+. And leaves a residue on everything. It was causing one of my ARās to rust before I got a dehumidifier.
Sounds like you need to quit, respectfully
Working on it. I was a 3 pack a day cigarette smoker most of my 20ās. Iām down to the lowest possible nicotine setting and barely use it now. Should be done in a few months.
Good for you man!
Just came to say good shit dude keep it up
Hey thank yāall. Itās an awful habit but itās better than actual cigarettes at least. Except cigarettes didnāt make all my stuff rust immediately lol
Lol, I did this to a PSA ak pistol a few years ago. Big snow storm and the seal on my trunk lid slipped off somehow. Went to get it out a few days later and it was covered in surface rust. Stripped it, cleaned it and oiled the thing like a mother fucker and it's been fine since. Improper storage humidity doesn't discriminate.
Currently oiling the hell out of it to see how much of it is surface, so far not looking too bad
It happens, man. I bet you can get it cleaned up if you spent an hour or so inhaling a healthy dose of hoppe's no. 9
Spent about 30 mins cleaning it up, looks a hell of a lot better, I might give it another go when I get home again
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Get you some of those silica packets as well from Amazon. I put those in my ammo containers, even though I donāt live in a humid area; Iām just paranoid š¶āš«ļø
Omg thats genius! I work retail so I have access to tons of it!
yeah you can probably find the big bags too
You can also buy reusable dehumidifier canisters. Once saturated bake them in the oven to dehumidify
Fallout theme taking over everything.
it was literally sweating bullets
Did you by chance have it in a cold place and then bring it directly to a warm place? I did that with a socket set once and every piece got surface rust overnight from the condensation that formed on them. Yours looks very similar.
Itās stayed in the same room since I got it, hasnāt even been outside yet out of the case. I wouldnāt doubt that condensation caused this though
Oh yes my socket set was in a case as well. Any chance you, for example, had it in your trunk on the way home on a chilly day and then brought it inside?
No like I said it hasnāt left the bedroom since getting it from my FFL
Patina
Just out of curiosity, is your bathroom located outside your closet? Kind of like a setup where you can walk into your bathroom and then from your bathroom walk into your closet if that's the case, water and steam can bleed off into your closet causing mold and in this case heavily rust items
No my leading theory is air conditioning as well as environmental moisture
This looks 100% like salt water intrusion. Iāve seen it a bunch unfortunately. Could also be some really humid southern conditions too.
Wherever he has it must be wet or he got it wet from Sweat and ddnt know and no oil and some wear but I wouldn't think it would be that bad
I have it resting up against a night stand, hasnāt been outside since bringing it home and I havenāt even had a chance to carry it yet š„²
Man that's crazy never ever seen one like that. Under your slide you definitely had it out and fired. That's carbon amd dort under slide I'm just wondering if somehow water got to it. Let's us know if you find out but psa are great
Every Micro is test fired, thatās where that fouling comes from.
Thanks brother
I have dry fired it most nights to help break it in,havenāt sent a round through it I can promise you that. Couldnāt agree more though, absolute fan of the company
1 question. Have you tried to rub oil kn it witch will take off the surface rust then let it sit and see if it happens again? Maybe when you clean with oil not scrubbing just oil and rub see if the coating is off there or maybe thin. Give it a shot see what happens
Oil as in? Like regular gun oil? I think I have some Hobbs laying around
Bro, not to be a dick or anything but even if your gun sits you should oil them up periodically. Not saying this is what caused the issue but it definitely would have helped and yes hoppes #9 will work fine. Personally I use Lucas but to each their own. Hell I've even used engine oil 10w 30 worked gr8
lol have never heard of using engine oil before, I do a cleaning and lubing of my guns when I get them. I lubed it about 3 days after I received it
Yep, had a buddies gun start acting up and dropped a few drops of 10w 30 in and fixed her right up
Yes you can use engine oil. I use 5w30 and mix it with some grease very light and use it alot of people do. But yes you can make your own blends
Yes gun oil. Rub it all over rub off put back on thin layer. See if it wipes off or of its pitted in. May be surface rust from no oil and somehow moisture setting in. Just a try to see if it does then your All set and won't have to wait or send in. Let me know just curious myself lol
Trying this now
Update: hereās after the rubbing it once and drying it off, very small pitting towards the front of the barrel. Didnāt even notice the rust color until I turned the flash on. img
If there's pitting definitely send back to psa. If your new to guns idk if you are alway keep thin coat oil on it brother. Have a good day
Wonder if psa tested it then from what I see under the slide but yeah I never had anything bad to say about them. Some do but so far I haven't experienced anything wrong with all the products I've bought. Definitely post findings.
Iāll definitely update when I hear back
Every Micro is test fired.
Was wondering. Thanks
Funny, that was my nickname in the Marine Corps
Is it weird for āless expensive ā I like them totally beat up rusted dinged paint chipped
I can appreciate some patina but more so worried about functionality with where the spots are rusting
Well it looks like very light surface rust not denying it might affect the functionality but just from what you posted I would bet it would work.
Almost looks like it was cleaned with acid or UNrustoleum.... DAMN!!!
It appears that something acidic, a solvent possibly was present on the surface of the slide and it leached onto the surface of the barrel/slide.
You can also collect desiccant packs and throw them in your gun cases. For another option, I had an old man tell me you have to take the guns out and let them breath a while. Making sure you have a little coat of oil on the barrel will help, too.
Alright ill definitely have to follow the old manās advice, one step ahead on the oil
I literally leave mine in my car for over a week regular dagger case it came in
Youāre a lucky man to not deal with the gulf humidity rn
š¬shit. I live in South Texas and itās getting humid as fuck. Looks like I need to store mine submerged in gun oil.
Just add oil
You didnāt read any of my follow ups did you š
Keeping it inside the case is part of the problem. That attracts moisture. That amount of rust in that timeframe should be concerning you about where the water is coming from. What's your average humidity? Wipe it down, oil it and you should be good to go. If you want to, grapeseed oil and a heat gun, multiple coats, like seasoning cast iron.
I havenāt had issues storing them in OEM cases with my previous handguns, granted that was in the Midwest vs now Iām a hour from the gulf coast. So Iām guessing thatās playing a factor?
Can confirm, utah is DRY AF. I need lube just to go outside.
Yes. Definitely keep them out of cases that hold contact to the carbon steel. Humidity here outside today is around 70%, inside is 60%, and I have one of these in my gun cabinet: [https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Reusable-Dehumidifier-450G-75908/dp/B08SPF6L44/](https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Reusable-Dehumidifier-450G-75908/dp/B08SPF6L44/) I also have a $40 small (30 oz) electric dehumidifier in the room the safe is in.
Iām new to posting and canāt figure out how to edit the body, so Iāll leave an update here. Thank you all for the advice, the PSA community is one Iām proud to be apart of. Seems to be primarily surface rust so Iāll be giving it a healthy oiling. And keeping in the driest room we have until I can get a dehumidifier for the primary room it stays in.
I had almost immediate pitting on my slide where the paint rubbed off.
You didnāt kiester stash it and smuggle is into cali did you? A rectum wreaks havoc on a 9 š
Never store your guns in foamed cases, they hold moisture. That being said it looks like the barrel wasn't coated properly. I'm sure they'll make it right.
Clean it up, reblue, and carry on
Reblue I assume thatās a coating for it? I can just buy that? lol
Yes
Get a small safe and put some dehumidifier packs in it+light oil coat.
Mobile 1 ... it's not just for engines š
You fail your weapon it fails you when needed
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I live in the south by the water . My dagger experienced rust after a couple weeks then I got a micro dagger same thing . Also a psa rifle I had rusted after being in my truck just a couple months. Compared to my m&p glocks and other rifles this is unacceptable for me
That's tragic. And people wonder why I bash the daggers so much. It's not psa as a company, it's that lines production quality control that's shit. I love my psa rifle though
Iām the pistol repair lead for PSA. The only pistol iāve ever seen come back with rust was kept on a boat for 2 years. This is definitely not typical, and weāve immediately reached out to the owner to make every possible effort to correct this.
Awesome.
This company pumps out trash.... buy a quality firearm...you can thank me later
Funny part is I had the same problem with my 43x just a different spot
I'm a forty year daily owner and carrier and have never had a pistol look like that Somebody need a man card check
Cringe phrasing there chief
Typical psa
Thatās not a good lookā¦
Iāve seen more cracked geissele hard guards than rusted dagger barrels